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wouldnt it be good idea to make a sticky about the fact that titanium backup causes more problems than its good for,most of the posts i have read about probs have one thing in common they all tried to restore a titanium back up now this wont work and that fc's or it just wont stop rebooting, factory reset and flash seems to always work and if ya.want a different kernel let it boot one time then install the kernel,naturally after you wiped cache and delvik again. those two ways always seem to work
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Never, ever restore system data. I bet if everyone that had a problem only hit "restore missing user apps" there wouldn't be a problem.
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Titanium backup rarely causes problems unless you restore system apps. Tibu is one of the most useful apps in the market, I would never discourage anyone from using it. It's especially helpful to have backups of an app that gets updated & then you find out the update breaks something or removes a good feature.
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Keep tb, lose rom manager
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restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
No problems here. You just have to be smart about what you restore. There is no "one click" method.
I think we are looking at user error ... but blame the software if you must.
As others have pointed out, I've never had an issue with Titanium Backup. Great software! Just do not restore system apps + data.
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Keep tb, lose rom manager
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Ha, ditto.
Can we ditch rom manager or do you have to have it installed for CWR?
now if only there was something for unrooted phones to backup before they root so they could avoid that initial loss
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restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
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Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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I have had a problem with titanium backup, but it might be a setting. I restored using Titanium Backup from my Droid Incredible with no apparent issues to my 1st Thunderbolt. I did a backup w/ both Titanium and MybackupPro before swapping out my Thunderbolts. I always backup twice on my phones in case something goes wrong. Oh FYI it did go wrong before I returned the Thunderbolt I copied the MyBackup, but forgot the Titanium data. This is why i always double my efforts as I always forget something.
On my 2nd Thunderbolt I started to restore MyBackupPro data after unchecking everything that was a system app. I never looked into how to have MyBackupPro only copy user apps+data since I discovered Titanium. As soon as I went into Market Place multiple app updates downloaded.
For reasons that I am not sure why I decided to do it I did a hard reset to factory defaults. I copied my incredible data back over to the 2nd Thunderbolt and did a restore. None of the apps required updating from an older backup. I'm just wondering if something didn't restore correctly to market?
Powell730 said:
Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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Thats funny because I was just reading that thread thinking "where the hell did my post go"?
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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I'm stock and rooted. Used ROM manager to install CWR, then Titanium Pro to uninstall ROM.
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The only issue I have had with titanium backup is that when I went to restore my apps and their data it did not seem to restore any of the data, just the apps. I was a little discouraged at first but then figured maybe the original location on my old droid X might have been different then where it is on the Thunderbolt. I doubt it but that's what I keep telling myself since the app data won't restore.
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
Without Titanium Backup, I would not be as willing to try new ROMs. As with all things relating to rooting and flashing custom ROMs, you have to learn how to use the tools and understand their limitations.
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jrgalarza1 said:
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
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I've had the same problem when moving to a GB-based ROM. So what is this "user error" that we're committing?
cowisland said:
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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It's up to you really but that's how I do it. Just restore the data to apps that need that data and you can restore apps that didn't D/l from market and Ti will link them to the market so you'll still get updates.
I have no problem with TiBackup restoring data. When I move to GB ROMs (maybe that's just coincidence) Ti 'forgets' my settings so I have to setup my custom labels and scheduled backups again. I used to backup and restore texts (which is system data) but since switching between Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs I've gotten a separate app to do that if I want to take my SMS/MMS to my new ROM. Never backup/restore system data. I wish there was a way to exclude system data in TiBackup without also excluding uninstalled.
I just wanted to share a app that work pretty good for me. I love to try out what all the devs have created so this lets me backup my apps with data and flash via cwm or twrp. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=app2zip
This app is very useful. Backup all your apps and than flash them with cwm. Sort of like titanium backup with a extra feature.
does this backup apps
or apps+appdata?
Both and restores both. Works great for most apps, I haven't had much success with google play and I think Gmail.
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How is this app different from go backup? Instead of flashing .zip file I restore my app+data backup from go backup. Any advantages?
I use titanium for my backup most of the time but I have used this before and it's pretty spiffy. Wrap all your apps into one huge zip file and flash them back all at once. I would say the advantage is... in the eye of the beholder? Actually I just put titanium pro in a zip and use it to do the rest. I could never get it to zip itself in a way that would work for me.
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I've always been able to restore my corporate gmail account using TiBu by restoring the Accounts system data when going from Froyo to GB, or GB to ICS. However, for some reason, when I restore to JellyBean it does not work. TiBu doesn't report an error, but the account isn't there after the restore. I'm sure it's a compatibility issue of some kind, but does anyone out there know how to do this?
Thanks!!
[EDIT] Turns out TitaniumBackup kept restoring my accounts.db file to data\system, which is probably where every Android OS has kept it pre-JellyBean. I did some searching through this folder and found another accounts.db file in data\system\users\0 folder. This .db file had only my personal gmail account listed in it, so I knew that this is the one the phone was using because the TiBu backup one I restored would have had my work gmail account also in it, which wasn't showing up on the phone at all. I renamed the active one in data\system\users\0 to accounts.db.old, and then coppied the one that TiBu restored to data\system to data\system\users\0 folder. Rebooted and I had my work gmail account restored!! If anyone's wondering why I had to restore the work gmail account, it's because the password is encrypted and I don't know it. So, when switching ROMs, I would always have to restore the "Accounts" data from TiBu to regain access to this account.
Did you go to menu settings, account & sync and try adding the Gmail account?
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Did you go to menu settings, account & sync and try adding the Gmail account?
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Yes. The problem is, it's an account through my employer and I don't know the password. So, the credentials are stored in the "Accounts" system data backup in Titanium Backup. In all ROMs previous to JB, I could just restore that system data file and get the account back password auto-entered and all. Thanks for the reply, though.
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Not trying to be wise but is this your phone or a corporate phone? If your phone, ask for the password you have that right, if a corporate phone, ask for forgiveness for playing around with different ROMs. I would never let work put on a corporate account on my phone...because it gives them the right to view your phone if issues at work ever occur. I handle the cell phones at my work and that is our policy.
But having said that and now getting off the soapbox, if you need the corporate gmail that bad, I would go back to ICS until you can research it more. With any luck it might only require an update on Titanium.
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I don't think tb will properly restore depending on version of jb since some of them code differently and since most are formatted mtd instead of yaffs which is standard.
Blah blah ... what I am saying is reset up by hand ... or go back to ICS. Unless u can extract the back up on a PC an send u any information you need
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Solved! See OP
ejness said:
Solved! See OP
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I have the same problem but Tibu doesn't make any accounts.db in /data/system. Also the one in /0 is 0.00b
I want to clean it as much as possible, but still want to retain my settings (eg: GMail's preferences, the app, and the login which is automatically set. Same with Facebook, don't have to redo all the logins).
Let me know!
Many users use backup utility apps like sms backup (for texts), Titanium Backup, and a few others to perform the scenario you describe. I use Titanium Backup although I haven't used it to restore since I've only flashed one rom on the GSIII but I gave used that app countless times for my last phone. The way it works is as you backup each app through an automated process and once you flash a rom, you restore app and app data. As a heads up, never complain about rom stability if you use Titanium Backup, no rom developer in history cares because you introduced another layer that could be the culprit.
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ROM Toolbox will do this and a lot more. Also, you could advanced restore/data from your Nandroid backup in recovery.
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Hi guys
I just recently updated my ROM to its newest version and I am loving it so far (Beans 19). However, I'm pretty bummed that all my existing stuff on my phone is wiped because dirty flashing isn't recommended. With that said, is there a way (aside from TiBackup) where I can save my app data and other stuff and transfer it to my updated ROM? Thanks in advanced.
I ended up using Helium (available in play store) over titanium this time. I had a problem restoring from a 4.2 rom to a 4.3 using titanium. I have both apps in the paid version.
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DiSiD said:
I ended up using Helium (available in play store) over titanium this time. I had a problem restoring from a 4.2 rom to a 4.3 using titanium. I have both apps in the paid version.
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Titanium backup should work flawlessly regardless of android version. Did you restore system apps/data? If you did then that was your problem never restore anything related to system. The only exception is maybe call logs and SMS
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I probably did, I'm still pretty new at this. For me, after that, I went with picking app data to back up and restore for only the ones I really needed with helium. I probably could have done the same thing with titanium.
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So once you factory reset and all that stuff, you re-download helium on your new rom and restore?
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I probably did, I'm still pretty new at this. For me, after that, I went with picking app data to back up and restore for only the ones I really needed with helium. I probably could have done the same thing with titanium.
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I recommend giving TIBU another go. Remember in TIBU system apps are marked in red and users apps are marked in white. I recommend making a fresh backup in helium just until you get used to TIBU. I'm going to write you a small guide to TIBU
1. Go to batch actions (check box in top right)
2. Scroll to the very last option and click "delete all backups". This will give us a clean slate.
3. Go back to main screen and select schedules tab.
4. Click edit on first schedule. If no scheduled are listed then create one.
4a. Change it to "Backup all user apps". This will backup your downloaded apps every time the schedule runs regardless if the apps were modified/used since the last backup.
4b. If you only want it to backup the apps that were modified since your last backup then choose "Backup new user apps & newer versions".
5. Choose a time and day for schedule. Also choose of you want to run the schedule regardless of power level (AC charging/battery, etc)
Setting up backup for SPECIFIC system data like SMS & Call Log
1. Go to the backup/Restore tab. In the top right click "Edit Filters"
2. At the bottom click "Create Label". Give it a name (e.g. Calls/SMS). Now click "Add/Remove Elements".
3. Choose Call Log and Messages (SMS/MMS). Now hit the check mark in the top right. Give it a name if you haven't yet and hit save.
4. Now go back to schedules. Create a schedule and choose "Backup all system data". Pick the filter you created and pick a time for the schedule to run.
5. Done! If you want to know how to backup your backups to online storage like Dropbox/Box/Drive. You can set it in TIBU preferences and then edit the schedules you created to save to your online system automatically.
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Thank you, sandman.. I'm saving this.
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So once you factory reset and all that stuff, you re-download helium on your new rom and restore?
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That is what I did, but I guess I didn't have the understanding of titanium that sandman helped explain. Next time I'll back up on both and start restoring with titanium first to see if I have better luck (I have flashed roms and restored with titanium before with success so I thought it was the 4.2 to 4.3 as sometime suggested to me, but I could have made a mistake with system files that time, I'm not sure). If I fail again I'll at least have the helium to restore.
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