GPS: Samsung Captivate vs Samsung Focus - Captivate General

Just picked up a Samsung Focus and the GPS in the device is spot on. I tested inside the AT&T store before I purchased the device and got a lock within 5 seconds inside the store and the accuracy was spot on. I used the navigation feature all the way home and it didn't miss a beat. Does anyone know if this is the same GPS chip that is in the Captivate?

Why dont you try to read the settings and maybe we can emulate them in the Cap

Lol, now samsung gets it right I guess. Frustrating, unless it is the same chip, then hopefully it is just drivers.
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No idea but I always change the SUPL settings to Google's servers on my Captivate and the GPS works fine then.

Isn't the Samsung Captivate (Rogers) a better comparison?

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Don't think it's the same if this is correct:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/02/1...-with-media-playback-and-recording-functions/
EDIT: Sorry, I may have jumped the gun. I can't confirm that the Focus actually uses the chip mentioned in the article.

pretty sure they have different hardware, at least gps wise. no way samsung is that dumb.
I just bought an ATT nexus one. Im sick of the non-working gps and horrid filesystem.

From what I have read, and experienced, a new Captivate's GPS, and perhaps a new Focus' GPS, will work just fine for a couple of weeks and then deteriorate. Also, when I installed the leaked version of FROYO 2.2, the GPS worked fine for about a week and then deteriorated. Tell us what the FOCUS is doing in about two weeks.
I don't believe it's a hardware problem. If it was, the GPS would not work properly right out of the box. The fact that so many people, including me, report that the GPS worked fine for a week to two weeks, tells me that the hardware is okay. It seems as though, the more the software is utilized, the worst the problem becomes.

From what I have read, and experienced, a new Captivate's GPS, and perhaps a new Focus' GPS, will work just fine for a couple of weeks and then deteriorate. Also, when I installed the leaked version of FROYO 2.2, the GPS worked fine for about a week and then deteriorated. Tell us what the FOCUS is doing in about two weeks.
I don't believe it's a hardware problem. If it was, the GPS would not work properly right out of the box. The fact that so many people, including me, report that the GPS worked fine for a week to two weeks, tells me that the hardware is okay. It seems as though, the more the software is utilized, the worst the problem becomes.

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No idea but I always change the SUPL settings to Google's servers on my Captivate and the GPS works fine then.
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I finally did that a few days ago and ever since, it's been great. Locks in seconds rather than minutes-which was really the only problem..accuracy has always been fine

Yeah i should have mentioned it but a few weeks ago i was having the same problms as everyone so i kept trying diff options untill i somehow hit gps jackpot and now i get an accurwte lock in under 10sec every time. I just figured that everyone else had dpne the same and just never reported their fix cause i know i am not certain exactly what i did to fix it..but it works great now
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glio1337 said:
No idea but I always change the SUPL settings to Google's servers on my Captivate and the GPS works fine then.
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Where can i find the SUPL settings at? and what do I need to set them to?

My little brother returned his Captivate and picked up a Focus.
Hopefully it's indeed fixed. I might switch at some point. Dunno.

The problem is an insensitive GPS antenna. The Galaxy Tab has no problems with GPS. The best test for increased sensitivity would be to take it into a big supermarket and get a GPS fix albeit a poor one (Galaxy S phones should fail miserably here). The GPS chip is the same. The weak link is the antenna. It's garbage, easily fixable though for Samsung.
For me the GPS is only poor on extremely cloudy days and inside of buildings with thick walls. Otherwise it's OK now.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon (QSD8x50) platform comes integrated with their own gpsONE chip. It's pretty much a rock solid performer, as it was with the MSM72xx devices also. The Captivate uses a Broadcom BCM4751. Completely different GPS chip.

XGX5309 said:
Qualcomm's Snapdragon (QSD8x50) platform comes integrated with their own gpsONE chip. It's pretty much a rock solid performer, as it was with the MSM72xx devices also. The Captivate uses a Broadcom BCM4751. Completely different GPS chip.
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No
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Manufacturing-and-Pricing/News/Pages/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Carries-$205-Bill-of-Materials-iSuppli-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
It has the SAME receiver.

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http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Manufacturing-and-Pricing/News/Pages/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Carries-$205-Bill-of-Materials-iSuppli-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
It has the SAME receiver.
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Yes. You have linked a iSupply for a Galaxy Tab, which is a larger version of a Galaxy S. ?
The Samsung Focus is a WP7 device, and therefore has a SNAPDRAGON chipset, with the Qualcomm gpsONE.

XGX5309 said:
Yes. You have linked a iSupply for a Galaxy Tab, which is a larger version of a Galaxy S. ?
The Samsung Focus is a WP7 device, and therefore has a SNAPDRAGON chipset, with the Qualcomm gpsONE.
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gpsOne is A-GPS, it's not standalone GPS which the Focus has.

So let's correct a few problems in this thread:
1) Some of the signal hardware may be shared between the Focus and the Captivate, but they are running different SoCs (system on a chip). Therefore, even if they have similar/same antennas, signal boosters, etc on board, the chip actually doing the gps signal processing is different. For example, in the focus, the Qualcomm MSM chip has something called "GpsONE" which is their trade name for the aGPS system used. In the Galaxy S, the GPS is handled by a separate chip (not the SoC), which I believe is the Broadcomm BCM4751.
2) The Captivate DOES NOT have an insensitive antenna, at least by phone standards. I've owned a Kaiser (Tilt) and a Rhodium (Tilt2), and the Galaxy S has a MUCH more sensitive GPS receiver. The problem lots of people are having with GPS reception is due to software (in particular the radio/kernel/rom combination).
And finally, I had horrible problems with the GPS in my Captivate. It shipped broken from Samsung (aka, until I flashed custom ROMs, I rarely if ever got a solid lock). However, ever since 2.2, reception/quality has gotten much better, and ever since switching to an i9000 radio/rom/kernel (see my sig for details) I've had ZERO problems with the GPS. I get a solid lock in under 5 seconds, I never lose that lock, and the actual GPS accuracy (not as reported in GPS Status, but what I actually see on the map) is much improved. If it was a hardware problem, how come mine was broken, and now works perfectly?

There's a simple answer for that, your Tilt2 and even older Kaiser has awful GPS.
The DROID X/Various Moto's/Flip phones I have can lock GPS inside of a building with no problem and the Galaxy S will fail to see any sats to lock on. This is the same for FroYo.

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GPS Navigation Possible?

I saw a friend who just got the HTC Tilt and had a TomTom navigation program installed on it that worked without pairing it with a bluetooth gps receiver.
I know that the xv6700 has the built in gps (for 911) and was wondering if anyone has gotten a navigation program to work with this phone without purchasing an additional BT GPS Receiver.
NOPE!
If you do a search you will find this question has been asked lots of times!
Sorry, I too hoped it would work!
Works Fine
I use the Tilt with TomTom everyday. It works fine using the built in GPS.
I'd love to see a hack to be able to use TomTom on my xv6700....anyone come up or leading up to one ?
I have a XV6700 with TomTom but in order to get it to work I had to go and get a Bluetooth GPS antenna. The built in GPS chip does not work with TomTom only E911. Using it with the bluetooth it works REALLY great.
HTH
Once and for all, the 6700 has E911 GPS only, it cannot be used wtih turn by turn gps applications. If you really want/need some form of inaccurate navigation and don't want to buy a bluetooth gps unit, your options are Microsoft Live Search, Google Maps, or Navizon.
This thread should be closed.
Apache GPS
I've recently upgraded the Titan to the new radio version that allows for built in functionality. Does anyone know if the new Apache radio will work, or if a newer one is coming out?
as many times as this has been posted and with the post above yours you still ask this question. the apache has no real fuctioning gps chipset. it functions for 911 location only. end of story
i would like to beg to differ, the 6800 does not have a dedicated GPS chip but the same GPSone chip the 6700 has... it may be a newer version of the chip but it does the same thing the 6700 does. if someone who isnt closed minded cares to take their time to try to extract the information from the 6800's radio firmwares and impliment it on the 6700 it should work.. the only thing that could stop us from using that chip is if it is hardware locked. all you have to do is redesign the radio firmware and put it into an existing kitchen rom... I will try to figure it out but ive never worked with building custom roms before and it will likely take a long time to get anywhere... i am sure someone who is any good at kitchen roms would be willing to take a crack at it
yeah but you miss the big picture. a chip isnt worth a hill of silicone if you dont have an antenna to hook to it
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yeah but you miss the big picture. a chip isnt worth a hill of silicone if you dont have an antenna to hook to it
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So, if the problem is *also* that there is no antenna attached, will it be possible to solder a connection from the chip to use the phone antenna??
willfck4beer said:
So, if the problem is *also* that there is no antenna attached, will it be possible to solder a connection from the chip to use the phone antenna??
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But if there is no antenna attached, then how is the e911 getting its gps signal fix?
Jeff
most do it by triangulating between 3 or so cell towers
the program GPS Today has a feature that can used cell phone tower based positioning instead of a GPS receiver. i've never tested it because i have a 6800 with fantastic GPS, but its worth a try. Its free and pretty damn cool, so that would be crazy if the solution was that easy. try it out.
http://m.geoterrestrial.com/
There was a long thread about this over on pdaphonehome a while back. In short:
YES, the PPC-6700 DOES have stand alone GPS functionality. There was an email from HTC posted where they confirmed this. The reason it does not work stand alone is because Sprint requested it be disabled (I guess they wanted to charge for their own navigation package). But there is built in GPS that can use cell tower triangulation and regular GPS. Some people actually had the Verizon version working in a roundabout way for a while.
I went so far as to install Sprint's Nav software after I got on a plan that included navigation (for my wife's Instinct). It ran fine, but could never get a signal.
Sorry to bump an old thread-
Since the GPS hack is out for the XV6800, can it, or something similar be applied to the PPC6700?
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i would like to beg to differ, the 6800 does not have a dedicated GPS chip but the same GPSone chip the 6700 has... it may be a newer version of the chip but it does the same thing the 6700 does. if someone who isnt closed minded cares to take their time to try to extract the information from the 6800's radio firmwares and impliment it on the 6700 it should work.. the only thing that could stop us from using that chip is if it is hardware locked.
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Umm, I'm not sure where this info came from or what planet this phone came from, but it is completely inaccurate. Here's the story and please, DO NOT post anymore "Can I" questions on this as it is not a viable issue.
The 6800 (known by HTC as the Titan) has the Qualcomm MSM7500 "cell phone on a chip" chipset. This includes their GPSOne gps solution. It is an integrated GPS receiver for the phone. It is unique to the Qualcomm systems as it is their technology. In essence, it is a standalone gps receiver as it requires drivers to run and can be used independently of other functions.
Now, the 6700 (known by HTC as the Apache) has the Intel Boulevard chip. It is not a "cell phone on a chip" solution as the MSM7500 is. The 6700 would have had the Qualcomm solution (maybe not the 7500, but equivalent for the time), but legal matters complicated things and HTC signed with Intel instead. The Apache HAS gps built in as does EVERY cell phone made after a certain date set by the government requiring ALL cell phone manufacturers to include a GPS solution for E911 location requirements. These solutions only need a 2D fix and are not processed in the same manner as an NMEA enabled GPS receiver. As it would be possible to intercept these signals and process them through an intermediate driver, it would be practically worthless as the fix is only approximate (30 meters+-), half or all the data is tower triangulated (aGPS) and the value of the fix is geek value only.
So, if you want to mess with it, go ahead. Just remember, a seperate GPS receiver is a lot less hassle and a lot cheaper.

GPS Problems? Yup everyone

http://free-pc-guides.com/news/first-att-samsung-captivate-owners-report-problems-with-gps-02887
This is such a sensationalist article. There aren't any problems with the GPS. You're supposed to use a GPS outside, and even inside, mine got a signal fine.
This article also says that T-mobile is expected to get the Captivate, which is false. It already has the Vibrant.
What GPS Problem??
No problems for me, thus far...
Mine has locked once. After that it refuses and just triangulates using cell towers and accurate within 2600 meters.
I'm not sure I would call it a "problem", but the GPS chip in these things is definitely not as good as the GPS chips in most other newly released phones. It could be a software issue, but I doubt it. The Aria would consistently lock onto twice as many satellites as this thing. When driving near large buildings and under bridges I sometimes lose a lock and Google Nav jumps around, which never happens in those same places with the Aria.
It seems to be working fine for me, but then I saw that someone had posted a fix for it when you dialed into the GPS settings, so I did that, and now.... it's still working fine!
gtg465x said:
I'm not sure I would call it a "problem", but the GPS chip in these things is definitely not as good as the GPS chips in most other newly released phones. It could be a software issue, but I doubt it. The Aria would consistently lock onto twice as many satellites as this thing. When driving near large buildings and under bridges I sometimes lose a lock and Google Nav jumps around, which never happens in those same places with the Aria.
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I've recently used both an Evo and an ATT-band Nexus One. I do have to say that the GPS on both of those seemed to acquire signals from satellites much faster than the Captivate, and give a more accurate location. Even standing outside, in the open, this one never appears to lock in on my precise location as well. I realize that's only anecdotal, but I no longer have access to either of the other devices.
Maybe its just mine, but I traveled over 300 miles today using Google Navigation, the phone up in the dash, with a clear view of the sky keep on having issue finding me.
I have an N1 and Aria, neither of these have these issues.
Do the specs indicate which GPS chip is being used? Some are better than others. Is it SirFStar III, IV, or MTK or what? This can certainly make a difference but costs about the same, so why get a cheapo chip? Hope Samsung did not do that.
GPS is definitely poor. From watching GPS Test I'd wager it's a firmware issue. No reason to have satellites popping in and out of view in the middle of a field on a clear day...
I've had many GPS units (>10) and the GPS in the phone is the second worst I've ever had. Very flaky. It looks like they also tried to mask the problem by averaging a bunch of the last fixes. I say this because the speed indication trails reality by quite a bit!
And I did try the proposed settings elsewhere but it didn't seem to improve much.
Hopefully they'll get this fixed. It's not the way GPS should be working on a top tier phone.
AJerman said:
It seems to be working fine for me, but then I saw that someone had posted a fix for it when you dialed into the GPS settings, so I did that, and now.... it's still working fine!
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Okay, so to change my stance a little, the GPS has been a little off tonight. Locking has been slower than I like, but it has been locking, and I saw it lock to at least 7 satellites earlier so I know it has no issue with handling that many at once.
The bigger annoyance that I'm having now is that my AGPS is off by quite a bit, telling me I'm in the next town over until it gets a full GPS signal. Not only is this annoying, but it also throws off every app that uses the cell data for coarse location, and I wouldn't be surprised if it has an effect on how fast it locks to the actual GPS satellites since it has the wrong location info to start which is the whole point of AGPS.
I actually did the GPS tweaks found in another thread, and I was navigating around my city. Maps was spot on for 98% of the time. Once or twice it put me about 30 meters away, but that was when i was surrounded by trees or concrete. Overall, I was very VERY impressed with the voice navigation, and the re-routing it did when i drove past a turn!
hmose said:
Do the specs indicate which GPS chip is being used? Some are better than others. Is it SirFStar III, IV, or MTK or what? This can certainly make a difference but costs about the same, so why get a cheapo chip? Hope Samsung did not do that.
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I'm starting to think that the processor and screen on this phone cost so much that Samsung had to cut corners in other areas to keep prices competitive. So far we've seen widespread evidence of crappy chargers (take forever to charge), GPS chips (slow and not very accurate), compasses (all over the place), internal memory (slow memory is causing the stalling issue / lag), and lack of camera flash. Hopefully not all of those are hardware issues and some can be fixed with software, but I'm just saying, they might have cut some corners to keep this thing reasonably priced. Personally, I would have rather paid $100 more to have the best phone ever made hands down. Oh Samsung.
I got it to lock like one time outside. Then I found this http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/128026-everyone-who-having-gps-problems.html and now it locks on inside my house. And this is actually GPS I'm talking about not wifi/cell tower triangulation. Hope it helps some of you.
I picked mine up the 19th in the burbs of Chicago. Drove up to Milwaukee with it the same day and did a side by side comparison with my Garmin GPS after my friend sent me the article.
Besides 2 minor hiccups, they worked very similar.
*the first hiccup shouldn't even be credited as a hiccup because it was an alternate route, I knew from experience it was slower but my Garmin and my Magellan of past never recognized it as the faster route.
*the second hiccup was when I was driving down 294 to merge into 94. Both had about the same instruction but out of nowhere my captivate's nav system said to take a left into a random road. It "recalculated" after a quick flicker and went back on course with my Garmin.
Recently I noticed there was an update for the Maps application which gave me "Navigation" and after installing it, I prefer my phone to my Garmin because:
1. It now gives you a picture of the destination in "street view" which you can touch and scroll around when you've arrived or pretty much arrived.
2. It shows traffic (green is good, red is bad)
3. I'm not sure if this was before the update but you can scroll through the map using the touch screen rather than just zooming in and out.
I'll do a few more runs driving between Milwaukee and the Chicago burbs before I completely set aside one or the other, but my experience has definitely met my expectations of a GPS
Why not download GPS NMEA MONITOR App and watch the data sentences. If they keep coming then it is a software problem, not the GPS Chipset. If those data sentences are stopped, then you got a hardware chipset reception problem. Try getting a clear view of the sky.
Zero GPS issues here, faster then backflip, tilt, & tilt2 for me. Grabs and maintains connection just fine.

Is this the GPS issue Answer? New Radios.

Just ran into this article on Engadget. Is this solid proof that Samsung Galaxy S devices i.e. Captivate have hardware issues with the gps and will not be fixed by firmware update, Froyo, or settings.....I think it will not be resolved until newer devices.....This is proof to me....New Radios all around.
Samsung Devices new radios
Yeah, im betting this is a hardware issue as well. It's seems fishy that we've had updates to adress the issue, and it's still not working. ATT tries to deny there's a problem until you ask them to replace your phone. Once you want a replacement, they admit to the problem, and tell you to **** off.
I'm going to be switching providers soon as this has pissed me off beyond belief.
Uhh... the title of this and the OP are misleading. The article (and FCC letter) mention new antennas (not new radios) and the change is from the original Nexus S to the production model.
Our phones may very well have a hardware issue, but these FCC docs are not the smoking gun.
Yes I do agree that radios will be changed for carriers and different frequencies but they have changed specifically the GPS which tells us that they have looked into the issue and the only resolution is to change the hardware.
I thought it was hardware as well until i tried the Axura 5 rom that has jupiter tweaks.
i have tested 50+ miles about 25-30 turns and the turn by turn navigation is working very well now (never did before)
I never had a problem with locks. Usually took anywhere from 12-30 seconds with good accuracy when stationary but turn by turn navigation was not even an option.
With Axura i ran gps test and my average lock time was 4.9 seconds with accuracy within 25 meters.
Only missed 2 turns so far in turn by turn navigation and it corrected itself within 3 seconds to proper location which it would never do before. Axura has convinced me its not a hardware issue.
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Yes I do agree that radios will be changed for carriers and different frequencies but they have changed specifically the GPS which tells us that they have looked into the issue and the only resolution is to change the hardware.
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I have not seen the full specs on the new Nexus S - please show what GPS radio they are now using. We know the make and model of the current Broadcom chip in the Captivate.
The articles title "Samsung Nexus S reappears at the FCC with a pair of new antennas" says nothing about radios.
The text of the letter says that the previous Nexus S, has a different antenna from a new Nexus S that was retested:
"The device is identical to the previously certified Cellular/PCS GSM/EDGE and AWS WCDMA Phone with WLAN and Bluetooth except for the BT/WIFI antenna and the GPS receiver antenna."
Again, they are comparing one version of the Nexus S to another version of the Nexus S.
My gps works so well. I'm on the ROGERS version though.
I just went back to stock from the Axura 5 rom as I couldn't get the gps to work at all. With jh7 it like partially works(kinda works while driving but always says searching for gps).
With the millions of devices sold and the identification of a serious defect that prevents advertised features from working this seems to be moving further into class action territory. Lawyers have picked up smaller cases...
Of course, if we get anything out of it it'll probably be a $5 coupon towards our next Samsung 2 year commitment phone purchase.
What's amazing to me is that Samsung knows of the problem and were all ready to ship out a completely new phone with (Nexus S) the defect until Google cried foul. Really shows you how much Samsung cares about their customers.
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I just went back to stock from the Axura 5 rom as I couldn't get the gps to work at all. With jh7 it like partially works(kinda works while driving but always says searching for gps).
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Search for Jupiter GPS fix, install that and see if it works better. I went back to JH7 from Perception 4 (never had luck with I9000 roms) and installed the JM9 CWM fix from the op in that thread. Works better than stock ever has even while driving. Of course, I also have a windshield mount. YMMV
I see DG removed the zip because it's baked in Perception 5. Added for your pleasure.
Jupiter for me just increased confidence, but not accuracy.
It was really sure I was a block laterally, as opposed to having a big fat blue circle without the Jupiter tweaks. Both sucked.
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My GPS was crappy with 2.1 with 2.1 update 1 it improved a nice amount. With the leaked 2.2 for the cappy. ( the stock Samsung froyo leak) my GPS now works verrrrry well even when driving. Locks instantly starts at 25 meter acurracy then goes to 10
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Problems with location (GPS, cell, wifi, ...)

I've had the NS (i9023 on stock 2.3.3) for a few days now and I must say I'm generally rather impressed ... if only the GPS and other location sources didn't suck so much.
GPS (outside, on my top floor balcony):
With mobile data and wifi on it more often than not won't get a lock for tens of minutes, if at all. Even if it has a lock it'll lose it every few seconds. With both off it's actually somewhat usable - takes a while, the accuracy isn't too good (10 m does seem to be the best it can do), and the lock's rather erratic, but still, better than nothing. Makes the thing bloody useless for navigation, though.
For comparison: A Galaxy S (i9000 on stock 2.2.1) locks within 3-10 seconds, gets about a third more satellites and gives me 10-5 m accuracy. Almost no fluctuation in either accuracy or number of sats. A Desire S locks as fast if not faster and shows 8-3 m accuracy even, even though it generally shows the fewest sats.
Wifi- and/or cell-based location (indoors)
Even my trusty old i5700 (Galaxy Spica) puts me within 100-20 m of my true location even when GPS is disabled, using just cell towers, or that and wifi. Even more importantly, it gauges the accuracy correctly, that is, I'm always within the blue circle.
The Nexus S (and, to be fair, the Desire S) on the other hand puts me in a 1000-400 m circle - and I'm not even near that, it's a couple of kilometers off. What's with that?
Compass
Well, it's not strictly about location and the horse has been beaten to death but it still needs to be said: It doesn't work. At all. Instead it spins wildly, even when the phone's perfectly stationary.
On to the questions:
Is this a sw bug, a hw bug or just a defective unit?
If it is a sw bug, is there anything known about the eta of an incoming hot fix?
Are there any known workarounds?
I really hope there's a solution to this because I really like the thing generally.
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roughly the same here.
Same problem. We need help.
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Yes .. I just don't know if I should return it over this issue or not, and I'm running out of time as today's the last opportunity.
Does anyone know if the GPS, network location and/or compass work flawlessly under CM7? That would at least tell us that a fix is possible.
yep, and i'm guessing as it's on stock it's not a software issue. it's a major issue for me as i want to dev augmented reality stuff and having the visual jump around when you're stood still is not cool.
Same thing here. Acquiring a lock can sometimes take forever. I think it's Samsung's crappy hardware, so we may all be stuck.
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I am also facing the same problem with my SNS here in Bangladesh.
Peculiarly the sets gets location data using Cell tower in some areas while it doesn't in many of the areas. As for example, I dint find any problem in checking in Facebook places ot Google Place in my Work.
But have never been able to do the same same in my Home. :-S !
This flaw is giving some hard time.
Is it bcz I've rooted my SNS and using CM7 ?
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i'm guessing as it's on stock it's not a software issue.
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That's dire news ... You'd think with all the problems the SGS's GPS had and all the attention the early reviews of the NS gave to the issue someone would have spotted it - yet most were quite positive the GPS was fine.
Unfortunately reports on this and other forums are very mixed on the question if and when the NS GPS started acting up.
I guess I'll just have to send it back for now, after all I can always get another one if there's an update that fixes GPS and the rest of the location providers.
like i said in my own thread: exactly the same problems. really sucks. especially GPS and Compass are pissing me off, really doesn't work at all..
bought this new phone and expected a perfect device but got a device full of bugs, i even had a HW problem and had to give it to the support here..i thought i have a completly defective device but since others got this problems i have a little more hope.
and i really hope for a fix soon and really hope this is a SW and no HW bug.
Has anyone with a sucky GPS tried this trick (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043034) or a similar one on the Nexus S?
I haven't had any issues with my GPS, however sometimes it may take 30sec-1min to find a solid signal. My experiences have been with stock rom and also SupeAosp 6.2 (which I'm currently using).

Infuse's GPS issue?

Anyone who is using GPS on Infuse, please let me know how GPS performance is. I used to own the Samsung Vibrant and had horrible GPS performance. Thinking about buying the Infuse but afraid that it would have the same GPS performance as the Vibrant. Thanks!
I had a captivate and had HORRIBLE GPS performance, unusable. I tried about 10 different ROMS in an effort to improve GPS performance. It was only fixed by getting a hardware replacement (refurb).
I have had my Infuse for about a day now. And GPS performance is on par with my refurb captivate. Meaning it locks fast (within 10 seconds) and it tracks well while driving. I am satisfied with the Infuse's GPS performance, it seems they have resolved the GPS hardware problem.
That being said, i did some serious research regarding the captivate's GPS problems, and it seems certain batches from Samsung worked well and some didn't. Hopefully that is not the case with the Infuse.
So far, so good. Locks within a couple of seconds. I'll post again if I find otherwise.
Werent those GPS issues due to Skyhook being yanked right before distribution? I wouldnt expect GPS issues on future models.
the gps has been fixed on the infuse and sgsII
the phonedog review says it and so does engadget i believe
GPS locks quickly even in my house. A lot better than the Captivate. Although a little slower than my Atrix. Just a few seconds though
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the gps has been fixed on the infuse and sgsII
the phonedog review says it and so does engadget i believe
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yes, the gps has been fixed!
i used to have galaxy s2, gps locks in quick and never lose gps signals!
just got my infuse yesterday, gps locks in quick too! need to do some driving to test if it loses gps signals or not.
just wanted to say, my captivate never had any trouble locking. it was the tracking that was horrible. anyway, infuse works fine. Larger screen is nice for navigation too.
I went to check out the infuse yesterday at AT&T ...
Really liked the screen and overall feel of the phone..
I went to the maps to see of I could get a lock on my location...
It would only triangulate my location.
I thought since I was indoors it may be a fluke so tried the atrix that was on display right beside it...
The atrix locked on my location instantly...tried the inspire on display...it also locked my location..,
Just for kicks I went over to the captivate..."unable to determine your location"....
I tried over and over on the infuse to get a lock...but it was a no go..,,
I hope it was an isolated incident...
Would be a shame if samsung didn't learn from the captivate....
Mine locked in a matter of seconds in my house. It basically pointed directly at the window I was sitting near.
My captivate want too bad either once I started flashing roms with it. It was a 1007 model. Never had an issue with it that wasn't my own fault.
Sent from my huge infuse (ladies does size matter)
Great GPS
I can honestly say Samsung has fixed the GPS issue with the Infuse. I have been using the phone for almost a week now and I have had 0 issues with GPS are far as locking or jumping around Google Maps. It's right up to par with the Atrix which in my opinion has a great GPS as well.
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It's right up to par with the Atrix which in my opinion has a great GPS as well.
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Wow, that's saying a lot. The Atrix's gps was the best I've ever used. Simply phenomenal.
Sent from my HTC Inspire
I hate to say it but I've had mixed results with the GPS performance on the Infuse. I've run into an issue with it not being able to find a satellite signal, and it doesn't track 100% accurately (shows me as being ~15 feet off the road, albeit in the right direction). It's leaps and bounds better than the Captivate - at least it doesn't randomly think I'm going the opposite way - but, in my experience, the GPS performance in the Infuse is not up to par with the Atrix or iPhone.
good static locks, very precise, under 10meter accuracy, bad tracking, not great under cover either. the secgps.conf file is still not written to correctly from the lbs test mode. it was showing msbased while the lbs screen was never changed from standalone.
even a captivate can track adequetly if setup right, the comunity is still convicend that is not true but i can post my tracts from my captivate, you wouldnt believe how good it does.
i havent gone as far as replacing jupiter.xml yet. i have turned off dynamic accuracy, it didnt do anything for the captivate so i started there. i turned it off in both lbs and secgps.conf set it to controlplane supl and turned off secure socket and fixed mismatches in secgps.conf to lbs screen and got rock solid locks after it eventually got the data it needed. before the edits it would be all over the place when i was indoors. will try tracking tomorrow, but this made a world of difference on the captivate.
this does have better hardware and drivers than the sgs though. the accuracy in lbs test mode is repoted to 2 digits after the decimal. the captivate seems to work in multiples of 5 meters. it also seems to do better with the altitude.
I am coming from my Samsung epic (sprint) and the GPS was terrible. I am now on the Infuse, the gps is perfectly fine. The speaker could be louder though.
I've had mostly good locks...today though, it has been bad...just not locking in.
Tried it out today at ATT store. The screen was bright and beautiful. Camera is better than the Streak but GPS still not working properly. Inside ATT store, the Infuse got a lock for a few seconds, lost the lock, and not able to re-gained the lock again. Doesn't looks like Samsung knows how to implement GPS function correctly. My Dell Streak, the Atrix and the HTC Inspire next to the Infuse were all able to get GPS lock.
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Tried it out today at ATT store. The screen was bright and beautiful. Camera is better than the Streak but GPS still not working properly. Inside ATT store, the Infuse got a lock for a few seconds, lost the lock, and not able to re-gained the lock again. Doesn't looks like Samsung knows how to implement GPS function correctly. My Dell Streak, the Atrix and the HTC Inspire next to the Infuse were all able to get GPS lock.
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yeah samsung has some funky settings but this hardware is very acurate. just needs some tweekage.
The GPS works like a dream. Usually it takes no more than 15-30 seconds to get a lock.
When I was at the launch i was able to lock in on my location in 30 seconds, INSIDE.
The GPS is good now.
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bragOS said:
Werent those GPS issues due to Skyhook being yanked right before distribution? I wouldnt expect GPS issues on future models.
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No - It was a hardware issue.

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