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Anyone know anything about the Meego? Would you be able to flash the htc tp2 and put Meego on it?

Good question! I'd also like to know if there is possibility to port Meego to HTC WM and/or Android devices just by cooking a new ROM - or are there significant h/w issues? Also to know how difficult it is to modify apps to run on Meego that have been written for Android or WMx.

Don't we all wish?
Lol when I saw this thread my heart jumped out my chest. Then reality struck. And reality is, its not ever gonna happen. And if it does, it will be because someone used a lot of stuff from the Android port (Meego, and Android are both base on Linux Mobile Kernel). Anyhow even if you did get it to boot it would be plagued with issues and honestly not ever work the way we all want.
Hardware issues aren't really there, just no drivers available. Hell at this point I would be happy with a touch pro 3 with 1ghz omap/snapdragon and winmo/android either. But no luck for that, and we are even farther from seeing meego coming out of HTC. Here is to hoping the N9 is good and ever sees stateside.. Hope someone proves me wrong!

mike.waters said:
Good question! I'd also like to know if there is possibility to port Meego to HTC WM and/or Android devices just by cooking a new ROM - or are there significant h/w issues? Also to know how difficult it is to modify apps to run on Meego that have been written for Android or WMx.
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Oh as for programming... thats where Meego excels. Winmo already has support for Qt 4.6 and that is how I currently develop apps for winmo5.X+. Then when I change my device to meego (target device), recompile, and it is ready not a single line of code changed. But that is more the power of Qt than any significant advantage to winmo. Android support is coming so be ready for a wave of amazing Qt apps. Thank you Trolltech and Nokia. Long Live QT!

Dead thread/project/idea? I'd love to run Meego on Rhodium. There are some Linux games (Cave Story!) I'd like to carry on my phone but I don't want to install Rhobuntu. Meego'd let me run Linux apps and make calls without having to reboot.

Me too! Keep the thread up!

nathanpc said:
Me too! Keep the thread up!
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Could anyone do it?!

It's based on Linux, so it can be booted using HaRET... People can port Ubuntu, but can't port Meego?

nathanpc said:
It's based on Linux, so it can be booted using HaRET... People can port Ubuntu, but can't port Meego?
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I'm with ya.
BUMP!

Another Bump!

It hasn't even gotten a successful Official port yet, and you guys are asking for it to be on the Rhodium already? Geeze. The Leo hasn't even got a functional port yet, and they have more devs than we'll ever see here.
The moral of the story is be patient, or please help to contribute. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, it's just that Meego is loosing momentum in an official capacity now with only Intel working on it currently.

bump
Just keeping things alive if I can. I think this would be absolutely great. I will be patient....but man that would be cool. I still have a ways to go on my contract and I really don't feel like investing in another phone atm. I'd rather get a laptop...

I'm all for this as well. So BUMP
Frankly I love my TP2, hopefully HTC will put out a TP3, though it appears the HTC 7 Pro, is the Touch Pro 3.

Android on the Arrive/7 Pro

Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!

It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?

I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.

i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.

why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.

eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..

eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....

exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.

eric12341 said:
not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.

Acsteffy87 said:
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either

I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...

Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel

At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel

drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!

eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.

hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky

[Q] [2 ALL DEVS] Any chance to see WebOS/iOS/WP7 on NS/NS4G?

With the UnBrickable Mod?
I read that webOs was ported to the Evo, and many mobile Os can be flashed on the HD2.
So, is possible to see other mobile Operating systems on our smartphone?
Share your experience, i wanna know about the incredible world of mobile operating systems
Happy New Year 2 all the estimated Developers and all the members of XDA!!!

Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too

Romonster said:
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too [/QUOT
Lucky you, you managed to succeed without trying
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So far, nobody answered my question....i'm confused

doubtful. Not enough interest.
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vetvito said:
doubtful. Not enough interest.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Far from it. The reason we'll probably never see webos or wp7 on the nexus s is that neither of those os's are fully open source like android, in fact wp7 is completely closed source.

webOS was ported to the Evo 3D but virtually nothing worked from what I remember, making it far from useful, useable, or anything past booting really.

Ios - Never been ported to anything non-apple (as far as I know).
Meego - Possible I guess, but I dont know why anyone would bother putting that amount of time into it.
WebOS - Looking possible, its going open source i hear, but the nexus S community is only going to decrease due to the release of the Galaxy Nexus
Windows Mobile - Dead
Windows Phone 7 - This was ported to the HD2 as the HD2 was used as a test phone for the OS and the drivers got leaked! Microsoft used it as it was a high spec Windows Mobile phone. (It got android as it was very similar to other HTC phones that ran Android, such as the N1 and Desire)
Ubuntu - I guess, probably wouldn't be too hard to get going, why anyone would want to I have no idea.
BB OS - hahaha...

so.... no interest.
Sent from my Nexus S

I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but if you're just interested in emulating the WP7 look, give Launcher7 from the market a try. I'd also recommend using the Ubermusic music player with the optional metro theme.
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[Q] Running Androd from NAND

I have seen this done with the HD2. I have the trophy and wondering if anyone has tried the same process, but with a trophy and not an HD2. I would like to get Android running on my trophy. Hopefully working with a ICS ROM if possible. So has anyone got this work with the same method or maybe a different one?

As opposed to running Android from what, RAM? NAND is just Flash memory (technically it also comes in NOR, but that's only used for low-capacity, very-fast-access memory; KB and MB, not MBs and GBs).
I don't believe anybody has the drivers for the Trophy on Android yet. It might be possible to build a working Android ROM, but if what you really wanted was Android, why get a Windows phone? Anyhow, if I can get HaRET working on WP7, that might help. Don't hold your breath, though - most people developing stuff for the Trophy aren't going to be Android enthusiasts, or they wouldn't be targeting the Trophy in the first place.

If you wanted an Android phone, you should have gotten one in the first place. I admit, it would be nice to dual-boot Android and Windows Phone, but I doubt it's happening soon, because developing a custom ROM for Android is not easy.

GoodDayToDie said:
As opposed to running Android from what, RAM? NAND is just Flash memory (technically it also comes in NOR, but that's only used for low-capacity, very-fast-access memory; KB and MB, not MBs and GBs).
I don't believe anybody has the drivers for the Trophy on Android yet. It might be possible to build a working Android ROM, but if what you really wanted was Android, why get a Windows phone? Anyhow, if I can get HaRET working on WP7, that might help. Don't hold your breath, though - most people developing stuff for the Trophy aren't going to be Android enthusiasts, or they wouldn't be targeting the Trophy in the first place.
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Yes, running it from the RAM is what I ment so it boots into Android as a native feel. The reason I got a WP7 at first was because it looked cool and a good start for Microsoft, but as I came to found out there are almost no apps coming to WP7 and as I wait none ever do. The development for the OS is just not there. I see the Trophy isn't ever being developed much as I have notice which why I ask if anyone had it working before I tried it. I saw that the Trophy can have HSPL installed which is a good step.

I was being sarcastic. Booting from RAM makes no sense at all, unless you're using a virtual machine. RAM on the phone is just like RAM on the PC; you can't boot an OS straight from RAM because RAM doesn't hold any data when the device powers off. Botting "from NAND" is just booting from the phone's equivalent of a hard drive; its internal Flash storage.
As for apps, the WP7 Marketplace is growing very quickly. What are you looking for that you aren't finding? There are also many custom ROMs, especially for fisrt-gen HTC devices like the Trophy. They offer features that aren't possible on the stock ROM due to Microsoft's limitations on what can be changed.

GoodDayToDie said:
I was being sarcastic. Booting from RAM makes no sense at all, unless you're using a virtual machine. RAM on the phone is just like RAM on the PC; you can't boot an OS straight from RAM because RAM doesn't hold any data when the device powers off. Botting "from NAND" is just booting from the phone's equivalent of a hard drive; its internal Flash storage.
As for apps, the WP7 Marketplace is growing very quickly. What are you looking for that you aren't finding? There are also many custom ROMs, especially for fisrt-gen HTC devices like the Trophy. They offer features that aren't possible on the stock ROM due to Microsoft's limitations on what can be changed.
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Oh ok. I was getting confused I saw another post like this a long time ago which I think you can still find if you search "android rom on htc trophy" and some guy mentions booting from RAM and you saying that got me all confused. Anyway, there are quite a few things thar aren't on WP7 like the popular game temple run, angry birds is hardly updated same with many others. Twitter app hasn't been updated in ages. I also have problems as all my music is controlled on Google same with my social networks as I use Google+ and twitter. My mail is on google, my YouTube, documents, photos just about everything. I also use Ubuntu so no Zune for me. Unless I use a VM which I rather not have to use.

Yeah... I hate to say it, but you're so far from the target market for Windows Phone it's kind of funny. I try to promote the platform to people whenever possible, but recommending Windows Phone to you sounds like recommending a steakhouse to a vegan.
Getting Android running on the Trophy may happen at some point, but I wouldn't hold your breath on this one. There are few enough serious hackers working on WP7 (compared to other platforms - like anything else, the low market popularity of WP7 doesn't help here) to imagine very many of them seriously trying to come up with a way to get people *off* of WP7.
That said, there is some hope. For example, the HaRET project (which I'm trying to enable on WP7) allows booting a Linux kernel within a running WP7 device. You're probably not going to be able to boot a full Android eperience there, but the goal is to enable use of a bunch of reverse engineering tools. Those in turn may be usable in an effort to port Android.
The fact that the HD2 can run 5 or so different OSes does suggest that it's possible to do so, but it's also very much the exception that proves the rule (in the correct meaning; the fact that people point this out about the HD2 indicates that the HD2 is an exception to the general rule that mobile devices don't multi-boot).

It looks like the Trophy has the same chipset (QSD8250) as the HD2 and Nexus One, so you're off to a very good start there. You may want to look into how they where able to port it to the HD2 and maybe ask some of the people who worked on it if they would be willing to help with the Trophy as well.

GoodDayToDie said:
Yeah... I hate to say it, but you're so far from the target market for Windows Phone it's kind of funny. I try to promote the platform to people whenever possible, but recommending Windows Phone to you sounds like recommending a steakhouse to a vegan.
Getting Android running on the Trophy may happen at some point, but I wouldn't hold your breath on this one. There are few enough serious hackers working on WP7 (compared to other platforms - like anything else, the low market popularity of WP7 doesn't help here) to imagine very many of them seriously trying to come up with a way to get people *off* of WP7.
That said, there is some hope. For example, the HaRET project (which I'm trying to enable on WP7) allows booting a Linux kernel within a running WP7 device. You're probably not going to be able to boot a full Android eperience there, but the goal is to enable use of a bunch of reverse engineering tools. Those in turn may be usable in an effort to port Android.
The fact that the HD2 can run 5 or so different OSes does suggest that it's possible to do so, but it's also very much the exception that proves the rule (in the correct meaning; the fact that people point this out about the HD2 indicates that the HD2 is an exception to the general rule that mobile devices don't multi-boot).
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I have and still do get to try to get people on WP7, but as you may no they all have their heads in their asses with their precious iPhones. Everyone I seem to talk to likes the look of WP7, but still continue to buy iPhones. It's also disappointing that the Trophy is the only WP7 on Verizon. Anyway by the time my contract is up maybe WP7 will get more popular and more varity and I can choose to stay with it, but if not I'll probably move to Android. But seeing the HD2 running different OSes is a good sign as you said. Good luck with HaRET as well maybe we'll see something in the future.

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It looks like the Trophy has the same chipset (QSD8250) as the HD2 and Nexus One, so you're off to a very good start there. You may want to look into how they where able to port it to the HD2 and maybe ask some of the people who worked on it if they would be willing to help with the Trophy as well.
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I heard that as well. Considering that HSPL installs on Trophy would magldr install on the Trophy? Nothing mentions the Trophy with magldr. Dunno something's to find out I guess.

Sailfish OS

Hey guys!
So I know I'm not a developer and all... But I'm sure like most people here, I'm a Linux lover! I've attempted to ditch Windows as much as possible (that may make me a tad more addicted to Linux than a few I suppose), and Android has been one of the loves of my life! As much as I love it though, there are more mobile distros being released this year, one of them being the updated version of Sailfish OS. I've been following it for a bit, and it seems like the perfect way to keep am older phone, like the Blaze, usable. It is supposed to run well on lower-end, single-core devices, and even better on dual-core ones. Jolla, the company developing it, have released the SDK, and have communicated that Android apps can run natively on the platform and that apps age being made for Sailfish OS in order to eventually replace these. The interface looks gorgeous, and it simply makes an average phone look very elegant. I'm unsure of how complicated it would be to get it operating on a phone, whether CWM or a similar recovery could install it, or of it'd be a viable alternative to Android... So I figured why not start a discussion on whether this is doable or not?... Any thoughts guys?
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Sailfish
Yeah, it would be awesome for the blaze to get a sailfish port, probably to dual boot with CM or any other AOSP ROMS. And why not, close relatives to the blaze have successfully dualbooted some ROMS. Anyway, I know how hard it can be to pull that off, but will it be worth it? In my OPINION...YEESS! I hope someone actually does it...:silly: