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Fully utilizing internet connecting mode for bittorrent

[Win7]
When using the internet connection mode does the phone have a built in firewall or port blocker? My laptop was already connected to the internet through my home's WiFI internet and I was downloading off bittorrent using µTorrent. I was getting decent download speeds on my torrents, but almost nothing on upload. Knowing that the LTE network is more balanced and generally faster than my home network I connected my phone to my laptop via usb and selected internet connection mode.
At this time I noticed no difference and opened task manager to check network utilization. Task manager showed that my home network connection was being used and LTE was not being utilized at all. So I disconnected from my home network and waited for µTorrent to adjust to my phone's connection. After tinkering with some settings in µTorrent it showed the "!" at the bottom right notifying me that either the port I've selected is blocked or some other setting is stopping my connection from being used to it's full potential. I again check task manager and as far as network utilization goes it was around ~1% and my download speeds are far from what they should be, and far worse than when I was just on WiFi.
So I connect back to the WiFi and µTorrent starts behaving how it did before I tried to use my phone. Task manager shows more activity on the WiFi connection and still around 1% for the phone's connection.
My concern is how can I maximize LTE's potential when for bittorrent. Is there some kind of built in port blocker or firewall element? Or is it some kind of protection set up by Verizon and they know I'm using their network for bittorrent? I was getting consistent 5MBps Down and Up when I tested my laptop using internet connection mode, so network stability shouldn't be the issue. Any thoughts?

I haven't tested it, but I'd be willing to bet that the built-in internet sharing mode on the phone blocks certain ports. You could try using a tethering app like EasyTether or PDAnet.
Are you rooted? You could try Wireless Tether for Root Users, and see if you get any different results with that, too. I had some issues using VPN from my OG Droid because there were some blocked ports when using USB tethering, but once I rooted and started using Wireless Tether, all my problems went away. It'd be worth checking out. If you're not rooted, I would imagine that the wifi hotspot would act the same way (although it's only free for another week or so).

Sweet! Another person who's going to get us capped.

Ya, runniNg bittorents off your phone is RETARDED
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EEdaesung said:
[Win7]
When using the internet connection mode does the phone have a built in firewall or port blocker? My laptop was already connected to the internet through my home's WiFI internet and I was downloading off bittorrent using µTorrent. I was getting decent download speeds on my torrents, but almost nothing on upload. Knowing that the LTE network is more balanced and generally faster than my home network I connected my phone to my laptop via usb and selected internet connection mode.
At this time I noticed no difference and opened task manager to check network utilization. Task manager showed that my home network connection was being used and LTE was not being utilized at all. So I disconnected from my home network and waited for µTorrent to adjust to my phone's connection. After tinkering with some settings in µTorrent it showed the "!" at the bottom right notifying me that either the port I've selected is blocked or some other setting is stopping my connection from being used to it's full potential. I again check task manager and as far as network utilization goes it was around ~1% and my download speeds are far from what they should be, and far worse than when I was just on WiFi.
So I connect back to the WiFi and µTorrent starts behaving how it did before I tried to use my phone. Task manager shows more activity on the WiFi connection and still around 1% for the phone's connection.
My concern is how can I maximize LTE's potential when for bittorrent. Is there some kind of built in port blocker or firewall element? Or is it some kind of protection set up by Verizon and they know I'm using their network for bittorrent? I was getting consistent 5MBps Down and Up when I tested my laptop using internet connection mode, so network stability shouldn't be the issue. Any thoughts?
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I'm sure they block ports, and to be honest, I sincerely hope they block torrenting on a cell phone. Why not use your wifi?

As others have already stated use your home internet connection as I like having unlimited data.
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eallan said:
I'm sure they block ports, and to be honest, I sincerely hope they block torrenting on a cell phone. Why not use your wifi?
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It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^

It's people like you that are going to ruin it for the legitimate rest of us. There is absolutely zero reason you should be torrenting on your phone, thats what your home connection is for. As mentioned earlier I hope that they do block the ports as I love my unlimited data plan knowing that I don't have to check my usage every 3 minutes like I would with att and their 2gb limit.
So in short, stop doing what your doing and ruining it for the rest of the U.S.

EEdaesung said:
It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^
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Neither matters soon Verizon will take away the unlimited tethering plan and you will be sol. Even if you use a rooted wireless hotspot Verizon will know when you start racking up the gbs.
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I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
^_^_^

EEdaesung said:
I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
^_^_^
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First off you are not paying for the Mobile Hotspot service it is free until May 15th.
Second as of right now there is no real threat of losing the unlimited plan. Verizon has not said anything about taking it away and as of right now you could up and download 100gb of data and Verizon may say nothing. The problem is that we just don't know. We could wake up tomorrow and all have capped plans (As it is in the contract we all signed when we bought our phones Verizon can change the details of the data plans basically at any time they want) Yes there is like a 1% chance of this happening at the PR Verizon would get from this would most likely run them into the ground but the thought is still out there. And for most of us who only use ~5gb of data per month or less just don't want to worry about that odd month when maybe some new series comes out and they use 50gb.
TLDR: As of right now its more of just a fear of losing it than anything else and not really something to be too worried about ATM.

EEdaesung said:
I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
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Or at least posting here about doing so.

EEdaesung said:
It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^
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There is a difference in using a phone to web browse, or to watch a movie or whatever, and maxing it out 24/7 and saturating the connection to torrent.
One is a bad idea IMO.

Got it guys. I agree with all previous posts. I don't want to get capped either and I won't be a factor towards it.
^_^_^

That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app

currensy said:
That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app
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LOL. Another reprobate weighs in.
"you pay for it you use it how you want"
So, exactly how much are you "paying" for tethering (not that which is currently offered as a freebie, but the theft of services your comment implies)? Your comment might be better phrased "you pay for it, I use it," since it's going to be paid for by someone, and if not by those who rationalize stealing it, then by the rest of us.
"they make hundreds of millions of dollars"
I'm guessing (assuming you're not still in Jr. High, as your attitude suggests), that you make thousands of dollars. So, I'd be justified in stealing from you, by your logic.
"I pay an already high phone bill"
If it's too high, it's very easy to cancel the service. Obviously, since you're posting in the TB forum, you have one, which means you've recently renewed your service. Which is it - you agreed that the value per dollar was acceptable, or you're just stupid?

You have to disable other connections after enabling internet sharing mode. Windows doesnt magically switch to a better connection on its own.
People should also remember that torrent does not mean illegal. He never mentioned what he was downloading. Apparently no one else in this thread has ever downloaded a linux distro, since bittorent is a primary way to do it. Certain games and game content are distributed legally through bittorent as well along with other software (generally opensource stuff).
The other day I didn't want to wait 30 minutes for aptitude to update my system on my 630KB/s average DSL, so I plugged in my phone to internet sharing on LTE and it was done in < 5minutes @ 2500KB/s average.
Verizon's network does not block ports as far as I know, but you are behind NAT, so you aren't going to be running any sort of server either on the public internet or easily connecting to your phone from a remote location.

Why do people take threads like this off the rails so quickly? The OP asked a simple question that didn't really warrant a philosophical decision. Imposing your will on the miniscule number of TB users who visit XDA won't make any appreciable impact on Verizon's attitude towards sanctioned network use.
OP, please report back if following "yareally"'s suggestion of disabling other connections works once ICS is enabled. Also, are you able to bridge your connection to the TB's in Windows? It'd be sweet to be able to merge WiFi (for speed) with LTE (for reliability).

currensy said:
That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app
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If you use frostwire... you probably still have a myspace...
Lol at your made-up story, VZW is here on XDA also... they just might come at you bro...
In regards to the OP, lol at anyone who thinks this one single guy is going to be the downfall of unlimited data...

Nooter said:
OP, please report back if following "yareally"'s suggestion of disabling other connections works once ICS is enabled. Also, are you able to bridge your connection to the TB's in Windows? It'd be sweet to be able to merge WiFi (for speed) with LTE (for reliability).
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Nope, cant bridge them in windows and use both (that is, it's not as simple as selecting both connections and clicking bridge). There's some ways to distribute their use over *nix and/or using a router and using them as separate connections, but it's not worth the time/effort. If you're really interested in doing it, there's some discussions about it on the xda forums already and elsewhere if you google around.

Working app for Wifi tethering?

I heard the wifi hotspot that is built in the phone has like a trial period or something (you'll suddenly get a tmobile page on your browser when you hit the limit) and I tried the wireless tether for root 2.0.7 & 3 beta... but doesn't work.
Any other options to wifi tether for my laptop & Iconia A500 with MT4GS?

I've been using the Wifi Tether app -- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- with no problems. Can you elaborate on how this was not functioning properly for you?

HebrewToYou said:
I've been using the Wifi Tether app -- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- with no problems. Can you elaborate on how this was not functioning properly for you?
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I used the old one and it seem like it was getting a fail on accessing the wifi (when looking at the log).
When I use 3.0beta, everything loaded fine in the log... but when my laptop connected I get the yellow yield sign and no internet signal supposedly. let me download the latest one from your link and see what happens

what settings are you using? I just tried again and same problem. I tried connecting with my Iconia tab and it just kept saying "Obtaining IP address" and didn't do anything.
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nevermind, got it to work. keep playing with the settings.

Device Profile: AUTO
Setup Method: AUTO
Enable Wifi Encryption: CHECK
Change Channel: 01
Wifi Driver Reload: CHECK
Routing Fix: CHECK
Disable Wake Lock: CHECK

sj808 said:
I heard the wifi hotspot that is built in the phone has like a trial period or something (you'll suddenly get a tmobile page on your browser when you hit the limit) and I tried the wireless tether for root 2.0.7 & 3 beta... but doesn't work.
Any other options to wifi tether for my laptop & Iconia A500 with MT4GS?
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.

Droidmoder said:
No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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I thought T-Mobile charges a *fee* to your account when using that app?
See this support discussion: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/6272
Also, go try and sign-up for a new plan on T-Mobile and check out this add-on service I've screen-capped...

Droidmoder said:
No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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Free ... assuming you've paid the monthly fee for tethering, right? The TMobile hotspot app pre-installed is only for those paying customers. Right? Or am I missing something here?

PJASchultz said:
Free ... assuming you've paid the monthly fee for tethering, right? The TMobile hotspot app pre-installed is only for those paying customers. Right? Or am I missing something here?
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No monthy fee for the app itself. You can have it but without a data plan or a wifi it won't connect. I'm not sure if it would run on another phone as a droid x etc.
. I could try to find the apk and let you try it?
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Droidmoder said:
No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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I got the wireless tether app to work already.. so I'll just use that.

ok our native Tethering app works for FREE, as long as you dont abuse it, that tethering option fee only if you abuse it constantly and are constantly going over your set amount of data, so 1 you are hitting your data cap, so now your web is slower than a snail, two if you are constantly tethering T-mo is going to make you pay for tethering, and three, STOP ABUSING! i only use tethering for checking email every once in a while on my Laptop, and have never payed for the tethering option, i even spoke with a t-mo rep, and he said its basically only for abusers that tmo makes pay the $15 for tethering. hope this clears things up a bit.

drboy2692 said:
ok our native Tethering app works for FREE, as long as you dont abuse it, that tethering option fee only if you abuse it constantly and are constantly going over your set amount of data, so 1 you are hitting your data cap, so now your web is slower than a snail, two if you are constantly tethering T-mo is going to make you pay for tethering, and three, STOP ABUSING! i only use tethering for checking email every once in a while on my Laptop, and have never payed for the tethering option, i even spoke with a t-mo rep, and he said its basically only for abusers that tmo makes pay the $15 for tethering. hope this clears things up a bit.
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Errrrr...
Not calling your integrity into question, but I wouldn't believe this for a second. T-Mobile is a business and it doesn't seem likely that they would give their services away for free when they have an explicit add-on service they charge for.
Why run the risk when you can *easily* just install the Android Wifi Tether app and use that service a bit further off of T-Mobile's radar? It just seems far, far safer.

Just use Barnacle to wifi tether.
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Droidmoder said:
No monthy fee for the app itself.
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Well of course not. The app came installed on the phone. The data service that it requires to be able to work is $15 monthly. Rip off.
I've used the android wifi tether app but can't seem to get anything to work with it. Not many ad hoc compatible devices, I guess?

PJASchultz said:
Well of course not. The app came installed on the phone. The data service that it requires to be able to work is $15 monthly. Rip off.
I've used the android wifi tether app but can't seem to get anything to work with it. Not many ad hoc compatible devices, I guess?
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It works with my android tablet (nook color) and all my Macs, so not sure what to tell ya.

I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.

Techlvr said:
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
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Barnacle works and it won't alert T-Mobile.
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Techlvr said:
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
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This has been happening to me for a while, I even started a thread about it, but no one responded....if you change your user agent to the same one your phone uses, then you will be fine, but it will take you to the mobile version of some sites.

Have you tried one of these 3rd party apps? Does it still happen?

Techlvr said:
Have you tried one of these 3rd party apps? Does it still happen?
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Yes I have tried Barnacle several times, and it will still direct me to the the Tmobile warning screen....but if you just change your user agent on what ever you are trying to tether to (computer, tablet, ect..) change it to the same one on your phone, and the stock app and 3rd party apps work fine, but occasionally it will take you to a mobile version of the site you are trying to view.

[Q] tethering / wifi & being charged $ (undead rom)

Ok - so i have a Rooted MTS3G with CyanogenMod7 and tethering with easy-tether & pdanet is FREE (i dont pay for it).....
Im ready to take the plunge and upgrade to the MTS4G (4G slide) -- but want to make sure that im not going to get charged by tmobile for using these two apps to tether. I refuse to pay tmobile for tethering when i have unlimited data....
What steps to i need to do this - obviously i will need to root the new 4G slide but -- just want to be guaranteed i wont be charged - as i frequently use tethering. I know there is no cyanogenmod7 for MTS4G - i was planning on using undead's rom so i still have full camera functionality. Is there any other thing that i need to take into account regarding the tethering issue?

No.
The only way you'd ever get charged is by using the official T-Mobile app, that requires the monthly activation fee to use.
Now, having said that, I know that on other carriers people using rooted tethering apps have gotten nasty calls/notices from the carrier saying something like "we notice you're using a lot of data, it appears that you are tethering, please pay us." But there is no way for them to actually know that tethering is happening.
If you root, and use 3rd party, or android, wifi tethering apps, you are in the clear.

PJASchultz said:
But there is no way for them to actually know that tethering is happening.
If you root, and use 3rd party, or android, wifi tethering apps, you are in the clear.
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I wouldn't go *that* far -- they would just have a heckuva time trying to PROVE it should you dispute their assertion.

cool, thanks for the heads up. was reviewing tmobile site and they charge extra for tethering and i didnt want that, but know that they (tmobile) is aware people are trying to circumvent paying for tethering so wanted to see if i needed special ROM or if like you said - that i just should use 3rd party apps on my MTS4G. Just dont need drama, as i tether a lot - (mostly via usb). But thanks both of you for the info

HebrewToYou said:
I wouldn't go *that* far -- they would just have a heckuva time trying to PROVE it should you dispute their assertion.
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There are a number of ways to look for tethering. Something as simple as checking the browser header ID sent over unencrypted sessions and seeing if it matches a desktop browser would work. If your provider wants to monitor if you are tethering, they can unless you use a vpn.
Also, you seem to believe that they need to prove anything to you. They are free, per the contract you sign when you start service, to monitor their network for anything they deem "excessive impacting usage" and terminate your service at will. T-Mobile is the only US carrier that currently doesn't enforce a tethering plan to tether.
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pantheis said:
They are free, per the contract you sign when you start service, to monitor their network for anything they deem "excessive impacting usage" and terminate your service at will.
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That's the key word -- excessive. As long as people keep it reasonable it shouldn't be a problem.
If someone is looking for a "I don't want to get caught at all or get in trouble" then the answer is don't tether -- carrier forbids it.
But practically speaking, it's very low risk if you root, use a non-TMO tether app, and don't abuse.

Free tethering (with Verizon at least)

I want to preface this with that I am on Verizon so this is using the Verizon hotspot app and I have rooted my phone but I expecet this to do the same on a non-rooted phone.
I have noticed that if I go directly into the app, the service will not work because it does a check to see if I pay for the tethering option. When it checks, it fails and tells me that if I want it that I need to call a number and add it to my plan. However I have found out that if you have a 3rd party app/widget, it will activate the tethering without the check. I have done this both through "Locale Wifi Hotspot Plugin" and "Tethering Widget". Other tethering apps seem to be flaky and either not work at all or timeout.
I have not had any issues with this; I watched an hour long show on Netflix on my tablet yesterday and used my old DInc(now deactivated), which I have the video out wired into my car, to play a few kids shows this morning on the way into work. I hope Verizon doesn't catch onto this workaround.

I too have found this to work! I downloaded switchpro widgets and it allows you to turn it on through the stock app and configure at will. More reliable than foxfi for me! Give it a try if you want wifi tether without root

haha nice. I wonder if it VZW can detect this and bill you?

Failed on my sprint version, cool that it works on vzw

I bypass all that and just use FoxFi.

Barnacle of Free wireless tether for root

ericlmccormick said:
I want to preface this with that I am on Verizon so this is using the Verizon hotspot app and I have rooted my phone but I expecet this to do the same on a non-rooted phone.
I have noticed that if I go directly into the app, the service will not work because it does a check to see if I pay for the tethering option. When it checks, it fails and tells me that if I want it that I need to call a number and add it to my plan. However I have found out that if you have a 3rd party app/widget, it will activate the tethering without the check. I have done this both through "Locale Wifi Hotspot Plugin" and "Tethering Widget". Other tethering apps seem to be flaky and either not work at all or timeout.
I have not had any issues with this; I watched an hour long show on Netflix on my tablet yesterday and used my old DInc(now deactivated), which I have the video out wired into my car, to play a few kids shows this morning on the way into work. I hope Verizon doesn't catch onto this workaround.
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Thanks this worked for me on my unrooted verizon. Does anyone know any other teathering widgets that work? Im not a fan of the icon.

I would just hope this doesnt come back and get billed for it.
I just installed FoxFi and it works good.
Also if you are on the new shared plans, tethering should be "free" now.

i can't believe FoxFi hasn't gotten yanked for VZW customers yet like they did with PDANet

Ok I need help. I have foxfi and the wifi plugin both working. What do you guys suggest I stick with? Am I better off sticking with foxfi, since the other way uses verizon's hot spot?

foxfi works for me, unrooted at&t s3

Does ICS have tracking files like GB that notify vzw about tethering? I remember having to flash a file to remove them.

Also on that note, apparently toggling on the built in hotspot is much easier to track, according to lifehacker... Not exactly sure how FoxFi works but sounds like that might be the "safer" option, despite the cleanliness of just toggling on the built in. Also, I can confirm that using the toggle method works on AT&T as well.

I installed it on my non rooted TMo, and it turns wireless tethering on, what ever that connects to the tether gets directed to TMo to add wireless tethering to my account.

set it up on 2 sgs iii last night, both took a little while to connect my win 7 laptop the first time, but all is good.

stupidchicken03 said:
I would just hope this doesnt come back and get billed for it.
I just installed FoxFi and it works good.
Also if you are on the new shared plans, tethering should be "free" now.
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They would have a hard time collecting on something you didn't agree to pay for, and you aren't doing anything wrong if it "just works" using a 3rd party app.
Still I just use Wireless Tether.
Tethering sounds great on a "shared plan", but what the heck are you going to do with a gig or two of data?

Wow totally works! Stock Verizon...
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turbosrrgood said:
They would have a hard time collecting on something you didn't agree to pay for, and you aren't doing anything wrong if it "just works" using a 3rd party app.
Still I just use Wireless Tether.
Tethering sounds great on a "shared plan", but what the heck are you going to do with a gig or two of data?
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Are you on Verizon? I am and I want to use the good ol' Wireless Tether app hosted on google code. I chose the generic ICS profile but it starts with errors. Log says failed setting ad-hoc mode. .

npompei said:
Wow totally works! Stock Verizon...
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Curious, did you actually use another device and go on line using the tether?

preusstang said:
Are you on Verizon? I am and I want to use the good ol' Wireless Tether app hosted on google code. I chose the generic ICS profile but it starts with errors. Log says failed setting ad-hoc mode. .
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Use the Galaxy Nexus profile. Mine works like that without any problems.

[SOLVED] One Click Wifi Tether with t0mmy not working... any ideas?

For some reason, I am getting an error when I try using t0mmy (found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261) one click tether enabler. I've done some searching and cannot find anyone else who has had this issue. What the heck am I missing (screenshots attached)?! Any ideas?
Info:
- Stock AT&T ROM
- Rooted
- Android 4.0.4
- Used on StraightTalk... all APNs are setup correctly... data works on the phone.
For solution, SEE BELOW

One other thing I should mention is that even when I am using `android-wifi-tether` it will not work. It just shows up as a device on my computer when it is turned on as a wifi hotspot.
I've downloaded SQLite Browser and have changed all fields with "broadband" to "pta". Still no go.

I don't understand what you need that program for...
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When I click to activate the native wifi hotspot, it says that I cannot have a hotspot and to call 611. So I am trying Android Wifi Tether, which works for a little bit then after about 3 seconds, says "what the hell, your phone is taking over. shutting down wifi." Something like that. I'm just trying to get this phone setup so my friend can use it as a hotspot.
SQLite is to edit my `telephony.db`

Well, I do believe that it could be because you are using a stock rom, so att bulit in securities could be taking over. Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering. it is the way the apn connects. now you can try to change your apn to BROADBAND, which is tethering, but again, but warned. if your data plan changes (esepcially if you are grandfathered into one), then that's on you...
so here are my suggestions: change the APN to broadband, get off the stock, and im sure there are a plethora of apps in the play market that should work

Herc08 said:
Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.

The days when you could easily pirate tethering may be coming to an end. AT&T has really cracked down on it and improved their methods of detection. Even if you get this working, you will get caught if you start tethering regularly.

redpoint73 said:
They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
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I do apologize, you are right. You will get a notice first. And then if you continue, then you will still bumped out. It is an email AND a SMS. Using small amount of data is usually the way to go. But if you trying to tether a computer, then most likely the data usage will be high. As I mentioned in other posts, as a former AT&T employee, if you want to tether, just upgrade your data plan. If you are on unlimited data, you will already get throttled at 3gb, so the Unlimited data and 3gb are basically the same thing, which is why the price is the same.
I have seem some accounts when excessive tethering is done, that the data is actually suspended, no matter what the case is. It's weird that AT&T can do that, but it is in their wireless agreement, which is at section 6 i think.

Thanks for the heads up about AT&T clamping down on this. It is good to know. I am doing this for an elderly couple who rarely use the internet. This is their first smart phone. They are savvy enough to know what that message means if they get it. I will let them know about it too.
They mainly will be accessing on the device itself but wanted the option to use it as a hotspot as well. They are already paying for data... they purchased the phone used and are under no contract (on Straight Talk). They want to use something they own, however they want. It's too bad AT&T is so mean.
It's like buying a computer and then the manufacturer says you cannot use bluetooth unless you pay them a monthly service charge.

[SOLUTION]
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that I figured a way out to get 'android-wifi-tether.apk' to work on the stock AT&T ROM.... here we go:
Get "Proxoid" from the Google Play Store
Get WiFi Tether from the Google Play Store (or from here [QR Codes in link]: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/)
Get a mobile data widget
Once you have them installed, get them all lined up somewhere you can easily run them one after the other.
Make sure mobile data OFF before you turn anything on.
Open Proxoid and check the box to start/stop Proxoid... you want it ON
Open WiFi Tether and turn on tethering
Now you can turn on mobile data
This worked successful for me. I tested it for about 10-15 minutes, playing YouTube videos, reading some blogs, checked out some google image searches and so on. If you do not turn Proxoid on before mobile data is on, this will NOT work.
ENJOY! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
UPDATE: This only worked on my Mac and Android phone. Mac picked up the HOX as a "device" instead of a wifi connection but it worked. Windows cannot find the connection at all. If someone knows how to get Windows to find the device and use it as a hotspot please let me know.

While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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exad said:
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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Which is the reason behind the detection. Same as throttling. With the explosion of bandwidth needed, the big companies cannot keep up. Hence why smaller companies offer unlimited data.
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