[Q] wireless charging? - Desire Accessories

EVO 4G got it (check powermat.com)
why not our beloved desire
i searched wireless charging battery covers or cases but i found nothing...
so i had this idea...if i can't buy one, why not make one...
I was thinking something like that:
buy a case/battery cover with wireless charging technology
buy a case/bigger battery cover for desire
detach wireless receiver from the first case/cover
apply receiver to desire case/cover
but I'm a student and i cant afford to waste money so i don't want to buy 100$ worth of gear just to find it incompatible...
so if anyone has any experience please share...any input will be appreciated.
also...if anyone has a charging case for any phone... I'd appreciate a thorough description(size of different pieces)

Get a desire case from ebay for £1.50 and a iphone charger case from mymemory i think for £20 and give it a go mate. i would love to have one too!!!

it won't be incompatible.
The powermat receiver consists of a large coil (the huge flat thing in the cover), a small circuit board and a mini usb connector. So all it does is to transform and send the received energy to the 5V USB connector. This will be compatible with almost every smartphone.
Much more difficult is it to put the coil, circuit and connector in the Desire back cover. It's only possible if you buy a bigger battery cover, and then, with a some skill and time you should be able get it working.
But is all this a thicker Desire and an annoying USB connector sticking out of the rear of the Desire worth the trouble? I don't think so.
Also note, that it won't charge as fast as it does with the AC Adapter. So better get a nice looking docking station.

worth to give a try
edofic said:
EVO 4G got it (check powermat.com)
why not our beloved desire
i searched wireless charging battery covers or cases but i found nothing...
so i had this idea...if i can't buy one, why not make one...
I was thinking something like that:
buy a case/battery cover with wireless charging technology
buy a case/bigger battery cover for desire
detach wireless receiver from the first case/cover
apply receiver to desire case/cover
but I'm a student and i cant afford to waste money so i don't want to buy 100$ worth of gear just to find it incompatible...
so if anyone has any experience please share...any input will be appreciated.
also...if anyone has a charging case for any phone... I'd appreciate a thorough description(size of different pieces)
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hmm... ive been looking and cant find anything myself either. imm good with stuff like that so ill give it a try as soon as i get some extra cash for you
allso, my tilt 2 has a habbit of getting hot while tethering and charging. anyone kno of a place where i can get rele small (rele small) computer fans to help with cooling?

dark_angelfighter17 said:
hmm... ive been looking and cant find anything myself either. imm good with stuff like that so ill give it a try as soon as i get some extra cash for you
allso, my tilt 2 has a habbit of getting hot while tethering and charging. anyone kno of a place where i can get rele small (rele small) computer fans to help with cooling?
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I would try ebay or chineese like dealextreme(dot)com

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emergency charger

maybe to solve the battery problems we could all buy emergency chargers.
if you have one with solar panels and batteries yu can charge your diamond everywhere.
and you do not need to have a thicker diamond.
examples:
http://www.globalsourcesdirect.com/servlet/the-5042/Universal-Solar-Chargers/Detail#
http://www.tradestead.com/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=1940
sandervanzijl said:
maybe to solve the battery problems we could all buy emergency chargers.
if you have one with solar panels and batteries yu can charge your diamond everywhere.
and you do not need to have a thicker diamond.
examples:
http://www.globalsourcesdirect.com/servlet/the-5042/Universal-Solar-Chargers/Detail#
http://www.tradestead.com/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=1940
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maybe sould get a discount buy-action (inkoop actie)
But i'm off to holiday so we maybe do that later.
i got the solar charger today.
is is almost a thin as the diamond ;-)
but it charges the diamond pretty quick. just put this in your bag and you can keep the diamond in your pants. no need for an extra battery, thicker diamond etc.
sandervanzijl said:
i got the solar charger today.
is is almost a thin as the diamond ;-)
but it charges the diamond pretty quick. just put this in your bag and you can keep the diamond in your pants. no need for an extra battery, thicker diamond etc.
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Which one did you buy (from which site). Seems like a very cheap and easy thing to have... just in case.
205_lacoste said:
Which one did you buy (from which site). Seems like a very cheap and easy thing to have... just in case.
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Yeah, I am joining to question. Which one/where did you buy it?
Thanks in advance!
i bought the one from tradestead (see first post).
it has the ridiculous price of 5 euro ex shipping.
sandervanzijl said:
i bought the one from tradestead (see first post).
it has the ridiculous price of 5 euro ex shipping.
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I ordered one for me too. Could you tell me how do you connect it to Diamond?
In the description stays "4 x Connection Cable (Nokia, Samsung, Motorola and Sony Ericsson)". Is there any adapter to USB or something else?
I think Motorola also uses mini usb.
the different connectors were inside.
i sent an email to the company explaining which conectors i needed.
there is also an usb exentension cord included. so you can basically connect anything with a normal usb connection
sandervanzijl said:
i got the solar charger today.
is is almost a thin as the diamond ;-)
but it charges the diamond pretty quick. just put this in your bag and you can keep the diamond in your pants. no need for an extra battery, thicker diamond etc.
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Don't forget that if you're just using solar to charge up, the small size solar panel will mean it will take a day or two in constant very strong sunlight.
I've got a solio charger which folds out to 3 solar panels which are each as big as this. Living in good ol' blighty with it's not so sunny days, it can take 3-4 days to fully charge the internal battery (1000mah), one of these single panel jobs would take over a week
cant you connect these up to a power source and charge the internal battery that way?
then when your out you just insert the emergency charger to the phone.
I've got a Solio in Sydney and it's still not great, but yes you can charge them off a usb port, which is what I am doing for now. Not as environmentally friendly but it works and is a useful spare power supply.

Any other dock that uses dock pins?

I think the google desktop dock is way to expensive, as i only need it as a charger and have no need for the A2DP function.
But all the cheap dock's on ebay uses the USB connection and not the dock pins, has anybody found a cheap dock that has dock pins connection?
It's much more convenient to be able to just drop the phone in a dock instead of needing to connect the phone to a dock, and be able to use the dock mode is a plus when you use it as an alarm clock.
I was wondering the same thing, is it that hard to reproduce that? I havnt seen anything besides the usb ones either and i have heard it can screw up the usb connection of n1s so didnt want to buy one of those
Exactly the same thoughts here
does anyone have specs of which pins do what? (i.e. do you apply +5 v to pin 1, ground to pin2, etc)
i've got some ideas on a homebrew dock.
pakraider said:
does anyone have specs of which pins do what? (i.e. do you apply +5 v to pin 1, ground to pin2, etc)
i've got some ideas on a homebrew dock.
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Search for the thread: "Dock Pinout"
It seams that it alot harder, that there is a binary communication in one of the pins, not just a current that tells it to go into dock mode...
Doh! delete my post haha.
Just bought an original Nexus One Desktop Dock brand new from Ebay for $15.00 . The seller has 49 more available. It arrived today and it's all original with sealed packaging. Just throwing it out there if anyone is interested.
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Too bad it isn't shipped for free outside the US. Shipping costs are more than half of the costs of the dock itself :silly:
tommert38 said:
Too bad it isn't shipped for free outside the US. Shipping costs are more than half of the costs of the dock itself :silly:
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brought last week http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/330770220824?item=330770220824
Dock US $15.00
Shipping US $8.46 (Germany)
Thats €18,65 (a new one costs 60€ at launch day ..)
I bought the dock when I first got the nexus one. If you guys get one for cheap and want to continue using the Nexus One, go for it. I mean the phone does slide down easly if the bump against the dock. But the lack of wear on the usb connector is well worth it.
Do you mind giving any feedback on this unit? I want to buy a separate charger cause I have a spare battery and OEM dock the previous owner bought new with the phone but I want to be able to charge the spare battery without swapping back and forth from the phone. Its a real hassle. I don't want to buy a charger that ends up cooking the battery.
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dkkeo said:
Today arrived in its original sealed packaging, just bought a brand new Imak USB Battery Charger Cradle For HTC Nexus One, Built-in circuit protection to prevent battery overcharge, over-discharge
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Thanks for the link, seems fine but a little too expensive :S

[Q] how you will fight against not removable battery?

well i like it this phone htc one x its pretty nice for me i want it, perhaps the only thing start bother me its battery, i had an evo 3d and i usually have extra batteries, and works well, perhaps im not sure how you will beat this?
im thinking the extra chargers that works as usb battery but not sure wich one are the best and cheap xD
for example like this:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/portable-12000mah-rechargeable-power-battery-pack-white-119917
what do you think?
I wouldn't buy anything like that from dealextreme. There are plenty of portable chargers out there such as the powermonkey:
powermonkey
or some solar versions:
powermonkey explorer
Powermonkey Explorer
Monaco
Monaco Solar Charger
or if you are looking for more power for a really long time away from outlets:
New Trent - Ranges from 5000mAh to 11,000mAh
New Trents on amazon
Although it is very disappointing not to be able to just carry another fully charged battery that you can just change. I have been using an extra battery and desk charger since the early 2000's and now technology is leading towards phones without this feature and without removable SD cards. It seems like a step backwards. I managed to go on after the change from hardware keyboard to touchscreen as there was a benefit, but there just isn't enough reason to take away these features.
We all know where this whole idea of not allowing SD cards or removable batteries came from. Everyone is trying to be the iPhone. Next Google will force you to install Gtunes before you can use your phone.
htc-ppc said:
I wouldn't buy anything like that from dealextreme. There are plenty of portable chargers out there such as the powermonkey:
http://www.amazon.com/Powermonkey-PowerTraveller-Portable-Charger-Grey/dp/B000JUBTYC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332218058&sr=8-1
or some solar versions:
powermonkey explorer
http://www.amazon.com/Powertraveller-powermonkey-eXplorer-Version-Portable/dp/B003ID5TX4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332218169&sr=8-2
Monaco
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=44094
or if you are looking for more power for a really long time away from outlets:
New Trent - Ranges from 5000mAh to 11,000mAh
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=new+trent
Although it is very disappointing not to be able to just carry another fully charged battery that you can just change. I have been using an extra battery and desk charger since the early 2000's and now technology is leading towards phones without this feature and without removable SD cards. It seems like a step backwards. I managed to go on after the change from hardware keyboard to touchscreen as there was a benefit, but there just isn't enough reason to take away these features.
We all know where this whole idea of not allowing SD cards or removable batteries came from. Everyone is trying to be the iPhone. Next Google will force you to install Gtunes before you can use your phone.
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looks well, perhaps i will check this brand on ebay, since amazon charge me a lot for delivery to my country :S
Not SD its not big deal for me but battery? that suck and if htc will make not removable they should be at least like razr maxx in battery mah
thanks a lot, and why you dont like DX?
The stuff from dealextreme is great if your are looking for cheap stuff that you don't mind if it breaks in a month. Also you may be waiting a loooooong time for shipping. For the cheap stuff it's great, but you DO NOT want to charge your phone with some cheap electronics from Hong Kong. It will mess up your battery and then you will really have a problem with keeping a charge. Don't want to have send in your expensive One X for repair because of a fried battery. Seen way to many phones ruined by cheap chargers. Spend the money on a good one.
I went back and fixed the links, but if you need to buy from somewhere else, that's fine. Powermonkey are sold in other countries and have adapters for different plugs if you travel. Then again I guess you could find an adapter for any of them.
htc-ppc said:
The stuff from dealextreme is great if your are looking for cheap stuff that you don't mind if it breaks in a month. Also you may be waiting a loooooong time for shipping. For the cheap stuff it's great, but you DO NOT want to charge your phone with some cheap electronics from Hong Kong. It will mess up your battery and then you will really have a problem with keeping a charge. Don't want to have send in your expensive One X for repair because of a fried battery. Seen way to many phones ruined by cheap chargers. Spend the money on a good one.
I went back and fixed the links, but if you need to buy from somewhere else, that's fine. Powermonkey are sold in other countries and have adapters for different plugs if you travel. Then again I guess you could find an adapter for any of them.
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thanks, damn htc i was so cool just switching batteries anyways i will check on ebay thanks, i read about powermat but seems expensive.
i wil check it thanks a lot
Non-removable battery does have a very good reason, because if battery is removable, they must make the battery strong enough to be able to take some potential stress from being dropped, etc. Non-removable batteries can have thinner walls because the phone casing will protect the battery, and since it will not have to be removed very often it is possible to have the battery have more surface area on the phone to occupy.
We need cases like these. my friend gets about 2 days heavy use on his iPhone 4 with it. Unfortunately I've only seen cases with batteries for iPhones.
nerdtaco said:
We need cases like these. my friend gets about 2 days heavy use on his iPhone 4 with it. Unfortunately I've only seen cases with batteries for iPhones.
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wow would be nice for the One X i hope we can get this
No kidding. I am so envious of him. That case also allows him to charge using a regular micro USB cable. I'm surprised at the lack of cases for most Android phones.
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google powerskin
Juice Defender Ultimate app.
Undervolting
Having a charger in my coat pocket.
I really don't think it will be an issue to make it through a full day.
Have a feeling that portable chargers are going to get a lot more popular as the non-removable battery becomes more standard.
Have the New Trent 11,000 mAh model which can keep me going for a week away from a power outlet. I'm not usually far from an outlet as I have the home charger, car charger, and usb port from my computer at work, but always easy to carry around my portable charger as it isn't very big and fits in my pocket. The other ones are even smaller.
Not too fond of the idea of having to use a case that makes my thin sexy phone into a hulk for just a little more juice.
iphones dont have removable battery so we will be just like them
hello00 said:
iphones dont have removable battery so we will be just like them
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Which sucks. If I wanted to be like them I would buy an iphone.
cbarth3 said:
Which sucks. If I wanted to be like them I would buy an iphone.
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+1
I hate the fact you can't remove the battery for a lot of reasons, one big one is I aways carried an extra battery because I did not buy a powerful phone to tweak it so it can't use all the power it came with.
They really need to put bigger batteries inside phones like motorola did , or make the back of phone from solar cells so it could recharge at daylight when flipped over

Wireless Charging - Current and future options

So, Phonearena has a few articles on how you can get wireless charging on the S4 now, but they involve a third-party wireless receiver (read: back cover) that looks like it adds a considerable amount of thickness to the phone -- far too much to fit into a case not designed for it. The receiver also won't be shipping for another 3-4 weeks. They've also released a charging pad (which doubles as a dock), but it looks goofy and just uses the Qi standard anyway, so there are plenty of options out there for that portion of the charging.
My question is: Are there other available receivers that actually work? eBay (and the like) displays a list of Galaxy S4 receivers (basically a little flat mat that sits on top of the battery and connects to the Qi hubs inside the back cover), but I'm extremely iffy on ordering any electronics from China unless they're proven...and all of the receivers listed are from mainland China. Has anyone given one of them a shot? And if so, are there any that work efficiently and don't cause problems?
I know, for the future, that Samsung has said they will have a wireless hub (mat) and receiver out sometime soon...but they said the same thing about the Galaxy S3, and it was never released. I trust the word of Samsung about as much as I trust the word of the IRS right now.
Anyone with experiences??
I feel the same way about china electronics, but I do have a Metrans brand one on the way I'm thinking sometime this week, I also go in on the indiegogo Monsterwatts receiver which probably wont show up till June.
so far all the info that I've read up in these forums about the receivers is that with just the Receiver the NFC does not work after installation, one guy used a note 2 NFC antenna to get it working. This sounds like too much fumbling to me and I prefer a sounder solution.
the official receiver covers are starting to show up in both white and black colors (black just recently) they cost 50 bucks and as you mentioned add considerable thickness. the cost doesn't bother me as much as the added thickness, which is what's holding me back from buying it.
The route I'm going to take for the time being is to try the receivers, if it works and does not add any bulge to the rear of the phone while disabling NFC, I could live with that.
maybe if they come out with a decent case for the official receiver cover I might get it.
I don't really use NFC anyway (who does), so that's an acceptable option for me. I have two people at work that I actually *would* use NFC stuff with, and we can just send files to each other without it anyway. Since Verizon has been so gracious as to make sure none of the devices on its network (outside of Nexus devices) can use Google Wallet, I really have no other reason to use NFC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296301
Need to read thru his post. Yes, while the receiver is from china, the NFC is functional.
I ordered one from the UK and got it shipped to the US. Am I worried its from china? Not really its 20-30 bucks. It would be the last time I lose that amount.
I will agree that eBay has a lot of knock offs but its the chance you take.
I would like to see a Samsung product out as well, but this will have to do until they put something out.
The main reason Im trying it is because Im tired of looking for a desktop charger that I can use the S4 with while its in a case.
Good luck to ya!
that dude's thread confuses me, he shows some youtube video about a Sview case and how it doesn't close flush with the receiver and says you need to press it hard be careful not to crack your screen... after that he lost me.
I just want a thin receiver that I can slip in the rear without the bulge and closing issues, even if NFC is a NO-GO that's fine with me haha.
I purchased this http://www.ebay.com/itm/121111622748?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
The item does work fine, does NFC work I don't know as I never use it but I will try and find out in the near future.
Item was received quickly and "worked" out of the box but the phone would slide off of the touchstone fairly quick, I had modded multiple phones to work with touchstones including my galaxy nexus so I gad these laying around http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D401-N52&cat=168
some N52 magnets, and after checking polarities and moving everything around it now works great and holds the phone very securely.
Charge rate looks to be about 800mA peaking at 615mA incoming charge while the phone is on, Average draw while off the charger is about 200mA with same apps running so about 800mA I do not know what it should be giving out but this is more than enough to charge.
Thought people would like to hear about this and am willing to help if necessary.
nice but I am already invested in QI charging pads.
I think that's the trend anyway, I'm surprised there are still an ample supply of touchstone chargers and palm pre back plates still in the market.
galaxy808 said:
nice but I am already invested in QI charging pads.
I think that's the trend anyway, I'm surprised there are still an ample supply of touchstone chargers and palm pre back plates still in the market.
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They are being supplied by third parties lately. I try and get the originals only though..
I also had a Qi Nexus 4 but I missed the magnetic pull of the pre I had and the galaxy nexus I modded so I did this.
And I can get a proclip for my car and these make amazing car chargers, which is the main reason I purchased the touchstone version.
SoM3_Idi0t said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296301
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That link + this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339
= no need to create a new thread asking the same question!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
That link + this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339
= no need to create a new thread asking the same question!
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I wouldn't have created a thread if either of those had helped :good:
The first thread is fairly useful...but is very hard to understand. Also, that solution is pretty much only available overseas for some time. My thread is about using this functionality in North America...which is a totally different story. It's possible to order his solution, but it would cost in the neighborhood of like $75 for the receiver alone...much more than any other available solution.
This thread about looking at options and figuring out what they are.
hotleadsingerguy said:
I wouldn't have created a thread if either of those had helped :good:
The first thread is fairly useful...but is very hard to understand. Also, that solution is pretty much only available overseas for some time. My thread is about using this functionality in North America...which is a totally different story. It's possible to order his solution, but it would cost in the neighborhood of like $75 for the receiver alone...much more than any other available solution.
This thread about looking at options and figuring out what they are.
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I got the cheapest possible solution I could find on eBay and/or other Chinese sites like AliExpress.
The charger, including a 5V 1.5A wall charger cost me just under $30 ad I got the the Qi receiver for $23. Both prices including S&H from China. It took less than two weeks before I received those items. The reason why I choose this solution was because I wanted to keep the S4 as slim as possible, and also be able to use the flip cover. To get it cheap is also a bonus.
The charge rate is at 640ma, and the bulge the Qi receiver is making is not visible. I removed the thin plastic film from the backside of the receiver and shaved off as much plastic from the inside of the plastic cover as I dared. There was a small visible bulge before those small modification. After the modification one can still "sense" the Qi receiver, but it is not visible or make the phone wobbly when lying on its back.
The only downside beside the rather low charging rate from this kit is the poor quality of the wall charger. It gets very hot and the solution should have been replaced with a micro USB port on the charging pad to make it more versatile when it comes to replacing wall chargers. The pad is also made too glossy and has an annoying sound when the charging initiate and a continuos overly bright status light. I removed the internal speaker and also dimmed the light with some standard paper. The kit can be modified with other housing solutions, and I was thinking of maybe install it inside a small paper-book or something that is a more "standard" item on a nightstand I will just have to check how hot the charging plate and/or the S4 gets before I try out any mods like that.
My recommendation is; Get an iQ charging receiver on eBay. The one I got is OK, but I might have chosen the oddly shaped Qi receiver after the reviews I have read. There is also rumours about a v2 of this slimmest receiver available. Probably wise to sit on the fence a bit longer. I would also advise to stay clear of those cheapest T-100 kind of charging pads that you can find everywhere for $25-$40. I would rather get the Nokia DT-910 or the genuine Samsung charging pad (are there two different kinds of those; one with a micro USB input and another with a standard charging plug?) In Norway both those chargers costs around 40-45 British pounds
Here is a few pics of my kit:
The other threads do not claim that they are UK/EU based.
Lots of usefull information in both. Bubbles post was to verify that the NFC works with the receiver he got.
You should probably do some research on your own.
and BTW, the cost to have just the reciever is £16.99. which is 25$ US.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=£16.99+to+US+Dollar
Your post is a dupe. Sorry. It just is.

[Q] Where to Buy Wireless Charging Cover?

All, I'm taking a gamble here, as this forum seems pretty bare nowadays. My wife and I bought new Windows Phones to replace her Lumia 520 (which replaced her Galaxy Express) and my Galaxy Note i717. She has a 1020 and I have a 1520. Her 520 had wireless charging due to my buying a Qi sticker for it that plugged into the physical USB port. The problem with the sticker is the slowness of charging. I am looking for a Nokia wireless charging cover for her 1020, and can not find them ANYWHERE, except for a few listings on Ebay for $500 USD or so. (Amazon also lists one for $129.99?!) Where can I buy my wife a wireless charging cover? She can obviously use her wireless charging pad, and my old wireless charging pad, as my 1520 uses PMA charging (thanks AT&T... ), so as it stands I have two charging pads that do a good job just lying about the house. Any clues where to look?
I'm in a similar situation. I'm looking to get my brother a wireless charging cover for Christmas as he's having issues with his USB connection. Can't seem to find the damn things anywhere. I did find a listing at "Overseas electronics" (welectronics [dot] com.) via a Google shopping search. They accept Paypal so I tried placing an order but it was refunded with the reason being they are on backorder.
I've considered pulling the coil/connector out of a 925 charging cover but it looks like those have 3 pins vs the 1020 which has 2. I'm assuming I can't just leave one of the pins off. I have no problem tearing the coil out of the case but it's the connector that looks like it's going to be an issue.
Unfortunately, it looks like the only hope is to try and find a used one somewhere...
I have a used wireless cover in black that's gathering dust as i have sold my 1020.
I even got 2 camera grips in black and 1 wireless charging plate spare.
I am in the UK.
U wont be able to buy it any where as nokia stop manufacturing them prices of them become crazy , best bet is to make your own as look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lum...ireless-charging-cover-inside-photos-t3044448
Maybe a microsoft sotre site , have a wireless cover .

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