I have installed a few applications on my phone- HTC Desire (some programs and games). The problem is that no one of them cannot be transferred to the SD card and that is why I don't have phone memory. I use the program App2SD but it can't move some of the applications to the memory card, too. Please give me an advice how to solve he problem. My phone is not with root and I prefer it to stay that way.
My phone HTC Desire is with FROYO2.2
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fissikela said:
I have installed a few applications on my phone- HTC Desire (some programs and games). The problem is that no one of them cannot be transferred to the SD card and that is why I don't have phone memory. I use the program App2SD but it can't move some of the applications to the memory card, too. Please give me an advice how to solve he problem. My phone is not with root and I prefer it to stay that way.
My phone HTC Desire is with FROYO2.2
Thanks
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I'm curious to what others have to say on the matter, but id say without root you might be screwed. I'm not sure if you can move the dalvik to the sdcard to free up more internal space without root or not but that would gain you a significant amount of free internal storage if you could (or move it to the seldom used cache partitiion -- but some phones don't have enough room there).
I've been using the Native Froyo App2SD like you but I'm rooted running cyanogenmod6. I can move anything to SD except for system updates.
Actually now that I think about it I'd guess dalvik can't be moved unless you're using DarkTremors App2SD+ and an EXT3 partition on your sdcard, but hopefully someone else can chime in and clear that one up.
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Hi all,
I've been searching through the forums and didn't quite find an answer, so sorry if this has been explained before.
I'm currently running an HTC Desire with stock Froyo (i.e. not rooted). Also, my knowledge of rooting and all its benefits is rather slim, so please bare with me. As some of you might know, the internal space on the Desire is rather on the low side, so I used adb to enable all (well, most) apps to be installable on the SD card (adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2). Now, with this, the apps themselves are moved onto the SD card, but their data and/or cache is still being stored internally. Effectively this means in the long run I still run into the ol' storage space problem.
Now, I read how when rooting a phone you create a partition on the SD card to be handled as if being internal space. Does this mean the above mentioned data/cache/all that jazz that would originally stay in the internal storage when using App2SD with a stock Froyo rom would also go onto the SD card, effectively not using the 'real' internal space at all for apps?
I might have to add, the possibility of a 'real' App2SD might be my highest, if not only motivation to root my phone. So if those two methods (rooted vs. non-rooted App2SD) are basically the same (space saving wise), I might as well disregard that notion.
Thank you in advance.
--Jakob
no they don't work the same
if u root your phone and install Darktremor app2sd it will move to ext partition on sd app+data+cache+dalvik cache
so u will end up with a lot of internal free space
and also from then on all your apps will be instaled to the ext partition
Hello all
this is my first android phone.
i managed to move some apps to sd card, but only to the internal.
How can i get them to the external sd card ? the ext. card is a mount point inside the internal one, thats what i found out.
Cheers
Lorien
At this stage it cant be done.
Oh, so is it a specific problem with the LG FW or is it the current Android OS ?
Lorien
Lorien25 said:
Oh, so is it a specific problem with the LG FW or is it the current Android OS ?
Lorien
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It's a limitation of the Android File System in general, not of froyo, gingerbread or ice cream sandwich. This is how the OS works.
What you can do is to go the the phone settings then programs then app manager and there click one by one the apps and choose to move to the SD card. You will notice that you will still have a portion of the app running from the phone memory. This is something that you have to live with for the time being but at least the half of the app should have been moved to the SD so at the end of the day you will gain some space.
Yes thats what i already did, worked great, but i do still have a almost empty ext. sd card. All the apps i moved are still on the internal sd card.
How about using apps2ext ? This is a modified version of the original (pre froyo) apps2sd that uses a "hidden" ext2, 3 or 4 partition on the SD card. I can only find it as part of custom roms. I'm sure it needs root to work too?
Anyone know if that would work?
Pete
mad_sunday said:
How about using apps2ext ? This is a modified version of the original (pre froyo) apps2sd that uses a "hidden" ext2, 3 or 4 partition on the SD card. I can only find it as part of custom roms. I'm sure it needs root to work too?
Anyone know if that would work?
Pete
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I think we might have success with that actually. I will give it a try and I will let you know.
Any progress in this matter ? My internal SD Card is already full ! Have to start removing apps to install others.
I think those Android OS limitations are pretty wierd, so the ext. card slot is just for photos,videos on an android phone then ?
I did try to use darktremor on this phone but it won't work on stock firmware. I think that we need to wait for CM7 before we are able to install the whole app on the external SD.
m33ts4k0z said:
I did try to use darktremor on this phone but it won't work on stock firmware. I think that we need to wait for CM7 before we are able to install the whole app on the external SD.
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The main problem is not the apps themselves. So Darktremor's A2SD would not help. The problem is, the extra files for large games are automatically downloaded to internal sd memory. Which is limited to 7GB. New games require more than 500 MB's each, so 7 Megs would be enough for many of us, but not enough for some of us.
It is certainly enough for me right now, but you cant see what future brings.
Hi guys,
I'm having this problem now.
Basically, my internal memory is being used by don't know what and I have left around 400mb.
The problem is that I cannot download more 3D games, they require around 500mb each!
I have tried to delete photos, videos and apps that I don't use but even like that it's not enough.
So now, I have a empty SD Card of 16GB and a phone/system that doesn't let me use that free space for "nothing".
BTW I did transfer the internal apps to the SD card, but very little changed.
Does anyone managed to find a solution for it? how can they sell android phones claiming that you can expand the memory of it if you are not able to use that memory for apps?
I already feel sorry for those that have the Evo 3D which apparently comes with 1GB internal memory.
And how can I move the 3D games to the SD card?
i think we have to wait until firmware update .. right now still behide 2.2.2 not even on 2.3 yet .. so i think we could move all app to ext card until 2.3 or higher.. i have try all the app out there .. not even one of them working .. you can move to internal memory but not ext sd card ..
you can also resolve this problem by switching internal and external memory. this works fine for the phone but messes up mass storage mode in windows! so you will find problems mounting your sd-card in windows - so you have to use alternatives for file transfer (ssh, ftp, adb) - means this is pretty much for advanced users only
Hey sorry if this is posted somewhere else but I dont know where to look and I looked on google for you guys who want to post that google thing.
Anyways, after installing roms from CM7 or even eagle, my internal sd card does not show up in file or root explorer. Its shown in the storage sections but not where i can access the information on there from the phone's file system.
When i restore back to stock (but rooted) rom its back to normal!
Its there, just hidden and named emmc. This is why root explorer is a must own app, it allows to see tons of hidden files you would otherwise not see. I'm sure there's other free apps that can do the same but root explorer has saved me from so many headaches it was an instant buy in market.
The 1 major gripe I ever had with this phone was the way they partitioned the internal storage, whoever decided that was a complete moron!
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Look under mnt/emmc with root explorer
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Thanks but how do I use it for normal everyday stuff? I guess i cant with CM7?
Sure you can, just move stuff from sdcard to mnt/emmc with root explorer. I know its a pain and one of the reasons I started a request thread to see if there was a way to bind/combine both partitions into 1 so we'd all have more internal space for installing apps/games.
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Hey thanks for the insight, I will just keep my reg ota with root until a much better version comes out.
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Hey thanks for the insight, I will just keep my reg ota with root until a much better version comes out.
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Do you use an external sdcard with your g2x, or do you use only the internal? There is a potentially easy solution if you want to use CM7 and keep the internal card as your primary. I'll tell you how step by step, but depending on if you use an external card and what you use it for, more or less steps will be involved. So I'll wait for your answer so I can give you the right response.
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Well I have a 32 gb SD installed but like having the internal for apps and clockwork roms
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jetbruceli said:
Well I have a 32 gb SD installed but like having the internal for apps and clockwork roms
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I personally prefer to keep my backups and personal data on an external/removable sdcard. Its safer that way in case anything happens to the phones internal memory, all my documents and backups are safe and I can put my sdcard into my computer or another phone to retrieve it. Also, I'd much rather have 32gb of storage for all that rather than the 5gb you'll have with the internal card.
That said, its personal preference and always good to have options. Here's how I have mine setup with CM7 (I'll explain how to achieve the setup you want in a moment):
- My external removable card is mounted at /mnt/sdcard. This is the default setup of CM7.
- My internal sdcard (emmc) is mounted at /mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD. CM7 default is to mount it at /mnt/emmc, which means if I have photos, music and movies stored there they wont show up in some of my apps. By having it mounted to a directory inside my /mnt/sdcard directory, any app that looks at my external sdcard will also see what's stored on the internal sdcard. This is similar to the stock setup, except that with stock the external card is mounted as /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD.
But if you want the internal to be your primary sdcard then here are a couple of fixes for you. The quickest fix is this:
- Go to Settings > Cyanogenmod settings > Application
- Select "Use internal storage"
- Reboot phone
- Now your internal card will be mounted at /mnt/sdcard and your external card at /mnt/emmc
- This makes your internal card your main sdcard but leaves you external card mostly unusable because of its mount point.
So if you are like me and you like for things to be labeled properly and usable then continue reading. This works with CM7 (it wont work with stock), and I also recommend having root explorer (from the Market). My instructions will be specific to root explorer, although you can use any root text editor you want. You will need to edit 2 files (/system/build.prop and /system/etc/vold.fstab):
- Using root explorer navigate to your /system directory.
- At the top of the screen select "Mount R/W"
- Scroll down and find the /system/build.prop file. Long-press on it and select to open in text editor.
- Scroll about halfway down the file and find the section that says "
# Mount the internal SD card, too
- Where it says "ro.additionalmounts=" specify a directory by typing its full path. I use /mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD. This is the mount point you will use in the vold.fstab file (which you'll edit in a moment)
- The very next line says "ro.vold.switchablepair=" .. These are the mount points that get swapped when you enable that setting in CM7. Change the options to match the mount points you will want to use. So for me it says "/mnt/sdcard,/mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD" ... of course no quotation marks.
- Select Menu > Save & Exit. One nice feature of root explorer is that it automatically saves your original file as a backup in case there are any problems.
- Now navigate to /system/etc
- Make sure the directory is still mounted as R/W, scroll down and open the file /system/etc/vold.fstab. This file specifies where both the external and internal sdcards are actually mounted. Each drive/device has its own entry.
- Find the line that starts with dev_mount emmc /mnt/emmc" and change it to match the mount point you created in the build.prop file. So for me I change it to "dev_mount emmc /mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD"
- Select Menu > Save & Exit
- Reboot phone
Now when you use the CM7 settings option to use internal storage, it will swap them but still keep one mounted within the other so any music, pics, videos you have will be usable by all your apps.
****PLEASE NOTE**** -- These changes will be overwritten if you flash a new nightly.
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Thanks a million! I will try just having access is good.
I have root explorer and I use file expert.
You said ur on cm7? Or are u on a custom version like eagle? I keep flipping between reg stock, cm7, miui and eagle. Just can't tell which is the best for everyday use.
But really thanks for all the info!
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jetbruceli said:
Thanks a million! I will try just having access is good.
I have root explorer and I use file expert.
You said ur on cm7? Or are u on a custom version like eagle? I keep flipping between reg stock, cm7, miui and eagle. Just can't tell which is the best for everyday use.
But really thanks for all the info!
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Just plain CM7. I think I'm using nightly 144. The method should be the same or similar on other cm7-based roms. It just won't work on stock-based roms because the changes to the files get overwritten when you reboot.
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d12unk13astard said:
Its there, just hidden and named emmc. This is why root explorer is a must own app, it allows to see tons of hidden files you would otherwise not see. I'm sure there's other free apps that can do the same but root explorer has saved me from so many headaches it was an instant buy in market.
The 1 major gripe I ever had with this phone was the way they partitioned the internal storage, whoever decided that was a complete moron!
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Look under mnt/emmc with root explorer
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I've been trying to edit the vold.stab etc on my phone forever trying to get that to work and I haven't gotten it figured out (still a Linux noob, probably always will be). I realize most people seem to prefer the already available options to remount it inside the external SD card or vice versa, but honestly I really just want it combined with the internal memory. Others say that is pointless because 1.5GB should be plenty of space, but honestly if I were to install all the apps on my Transformer onto my phone, my phone would almost immediately run out of internal space.
JaiaV said:
I've been trying to edit the vold.stab etc on my phone forever trying to get that to work and I haven't gotten it figured out (still a Linux noob, probably always will be). I realize most people seem to prefer the already available options to remount it inside the external SD card or vice versa, but honestly I really just want it combined with the internal memory. Others say that is pointless because 1.5GB should be plenty of space, but honestly if I were to install all the apps on my Transformer onto my phone, my phone would almost immediately run out of internal space.
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I wonder what would happen if the phone was physically repartitioned ... I don't know enough of how Android works to know what effects that would have. Obviously the disk is just a disk and you can create whatever partition sizes you want. Is the OS designed to look for a certain number of partitions and partition sizes on each phone? Or will it just use what's there?
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JaiaV said:
I've been trying to edit the vold.stab etc on my phone forever trying to get that to work and I haven't gotten it figured out (still a Linux noob, probably always will be). I realize most people seem to prefer the already available options to remount it inside the external SD card or vice versa, but honestly I really just want it combined with the internal memory. Others say that is pointless because 1.5GB should be plenty of space, but honestly if I were to install all the apps on my Transformer onto my phone, my phone would almost immediately run out of internal space.
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I found an app that has made the 1.5gb internal storage manageable, look in the market for link2sd. Basicly it allows you to move any app/game to the extra partition on your sdcard(I made a 4gb partition) I'm amazed how stable it runs! After trying numerous apps2sd programs and them being unstable plus running out of internal space too quickly, link2sd is a godsend! It allows even dalvik cache moving to SD extra and batch selecting/deselecting for ultra quick installs. I can't reccommend this app enough for people having internal storage space problems.
As for the internal SD card being combined with the 1.5gb storage I put up a request thread on it hoping a Dev would know how to.. until that happens tho link2sd has made me proud.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265540
Internal storage partition
Some of the asshats on that thread made me laugh with their ignorance.
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d12unk13astard said:
I found an app that has made the 1.5gb internal storage manageable, look in the market for link2sd. Basicly it allows you to move any app/game to the extra partition on your sdcard(I made a 4gb partition) I'm amazed how stable it runs! After trying numerous apps2sd programs and them being unstable plus running out of internal space too quickly, link2sd is a godsend! It allows even dalvik cache moving to SD extra and batch selecting/deselecting for ultra quick installs. I can't reccommend this app enough for people having internal storage space problems.
As for the internal SD card being combined with the 1.5gb storage I put up a request thread on it hoping a Dev would know how to.. until that happens tho link2sd has made me proud.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265540
Internal storage partition
Some of the asshats on that thread made me laugh with their ignorance.
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I can move apps to external storage by default with CM7. This is not the solution I am looking for , but thank you for trying.
JaiaV said:
I can move apps to external storage by default with CM7. This is not the solution I am looking for , but thank you for trying.
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The difference between apps2sd which your using and link2sd which i'm using is that with apps2sd your internal memory will run out much faster then if using link2sd which can also move dalvikcache to sd ext. I've already moved 300 apps/games to sd ext with link2sd and still have over 1gb of internal storage, try doing that with apps2sd
Edit: forgot to mention link2sd is a free app in market.
Hi all, i know this will be an old subject but the truth is i had a Desire 2 yrs ago before i started to play around with rooting and flashing etc.
Now i own my second Desire and it is rooted, s-offed, clockworkmodded and flashed with cm7.1.
I have recently been looking at improving my internal storage space and from what i can gather there are a few ways to do such a thing.
The problem is they seem a little bit too complicated for me not to mention a bit risky.
I am wondering if anyone has a simple method that will give me more internal space.
My sd card is partitioned (8 gig total 1gig ext3) i just don't know where to go from here.
Here are some details of my device.....
CWMod 5.0.2.0
CM7.1 Android 2.3.7
HBOOT 6.93.1002
Please Help!!
UPDATE:
I have managed to gain a little more space on my internal storage.
I found an app in the market called A2SDGUI and it allowed me to move the Dalvik Cache to the sd ext resulting in my storage jumping from 44mb to 107mb.
However, i am still looking for an answer to using the sd ext partition for all my apps since i have 1gig of space available.
Looking forward to hearing from someone!
Mark
CM 7 doens't have APP2SD integrated, this is why all the apps are installed onto the internal memory.
If you install any custom rom on XDA with APP2SD (MIUI, leeDroid for instance), you won't have any space problems.
Don't need to do anything else beside flash the rom, since you already have partitioned your SD card.
Without root and without an unlock bootloader...my phone reads S=On and is supposedly network unlocked A108B Black model (just purchased on Ebay)...is there anyway to completely move apps to the SD? I hit "Move To SD" under manage applications and it sends some of the MB size to the SD, but part of it still remains on the internal space and I know this because the internal MB's keep getting lower and lower. It's gotten so low < 1MB that now I can't even download any more apps that can or will run on the SD because it says there's insufficient space...that and the HTC clean cache window keeps popping up...any way to prevent this from happening? AND to completely move/install apps that are SD moveable to the SD card and get them off the internal space? Or an app that will default from using internal space and move all installs and data directly onto the SD? I have 1.3 GB open on there..it's been a pain trying to get this thing to run right...any suggestions besides the "factory data reset" (which I've tried) that helps with this? Do I just need to root/unlock booter? or will that mess up my unlocked phone?
Anyway that I can install apps onto the SD from my computer and then put the SD card into my phone and it'll read them from there?
Also...all these bloatware apps that are installed..without root...is there anything I can download that will wipe them off the phone...or is there anyway I can get into a file manager and delete unnecessary files/apps off?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
This is where I purchased: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-H...76527?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item27cc9eb0af
You should look under HTC Android developers forum for detailed guides how to root your device and how to install custom (read: CWM) recovery.
After that you should make second primary ext2 partition on your SD card (size from 512MiB to 1GiB, it's up to you) and install Link2SD from Google Play Store.
With this apk you' ll never have problems with low internal storage because it creates links of apks to SD card (data, dalvik cache...).
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1. Just Link2sd apk if it's complicated...
2. ehh, and don't install Google Currents, 'til they Fix their app, to make the cache moves to the SD instead of internal cache.
thank you.
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