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How do you PUSH (email, that is)?

I'm looking to partake of some vendor's service for the purpose of PUSH functionality. What does everyone here use? Their own MSE box, hosted Exchange, 4smartphone.net, web2mail.com, or some other service?
Personal Notes
- 4smartphone.net looks like the best, but you have to pay a year in advance (no monthly payments). Forget that.
- web2mail.com doesn't look like it supports SP2 which enables Push.
- I don't have a license to run my own Exchange box
- Other hosting services chanrge $15+/month and mostly without SP2.
What else are the choices out there? Now that we have ROM's that support it, I would assume MANY people will be looking for a solution on the server side.

Use vgsmail and keep your current mail server.
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/

Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl

jeremyjoslin said:
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
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I use 4smartphone.net as of yesterday -
I've set up mail forwarding from my belfast-biker.com domain to the 4smartphone one, it sync beautifully, BUT...!
It syncs lovely between OWA (I think that's it, the web-based Outlook thing) and the Exec, but there seems no link with my normal Outlook, and I'm sure there should be.
Also, when I receive emails, they go to my device, and my OWN, but not to my normal Outlook anymore, I'm sure it's coz I've failed to establish a link I should have done.... any help?

Push email on Android

Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.

The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.

Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.

Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.

Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.

I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.

n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.

youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(

I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.

issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?

Some of this needs to be done from a PC......

well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.

ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.

Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!

Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE

Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks

Outlook Syncing On Your Infuse...

Anyone out there use Companionlink/DejaOffice to sync their Outlook contact, calendar, notes and task to the Infuse?
Coming from years on Windows Mobile, I felt like I couldn't live without it as I like to do my planning on Outlook 2010 but now and then, I need to do it on my phone.
While far from perfect, Companionlink/DejaOffice does a good job...the latest update to DejaOffice seems a little quirky though...the sync progress goes away after 10 seconds and you can only see the progress on the PC.

I'm sorry I can' help you with Outlook. I'm just surprised anybody does this anymore. There are so many web-based / network-based solutions to choose from:
Google (the one built right into your phone)
Windows Live
Yahoo
Sync with your work Exchange server
Etc.
Now that you aren't on Windows Mobile anymore, you might want to consider this as being a great time to move to one of the aforementioned options.

My company blocked all non-company owned devices from using web synch since it was too easy to bypass the remote wipe and password requirements.
The only way to synch is by using Outlook on my home PC that connects into my Work account. Of course I have not tried that with an Android device yet, just used to be able to do it with WM devices.
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I'm sorry I can' help you with Outlook. I'm just surprised anybody does this anymore. There are so many web-based / network-based solutions to choose from:
Google (the one built right into your phone)
Windows Live
Yahoo
Sync with your work Exchange server
Etc.
Now that you aren't on Windows Mobile anymore, you might want to consider this as being a great time to move to one of the aforementioned options.
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the_nite_owl said:
My company blocked all non-company owned devices from using web synch since it was too easy to bypass the remote wipe and password requirements.
The only way to synch is by using Outlook on my home PC that connects into my Work account. Of course I have not tried that with an Android device yet, just used to be able to do it with WM devices.
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Well, CompanionLink/DejaOffice works pretty good...a little quirky and needs some adjustment but it works quite well...you still have to pay $40.00 for CompanionLink but it was worth it...not ready yet to NOT sync with Outlook...

I hear ya, the contacts are one thing but not having my calendar is a PITA.
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Well, CompanionLink/DejaOffice works pretty good...a little quirky and needs some adjustment but it works quite well...you still have to pay $40.00 for CompanionLink but it was worth it...not ready yet to NOT sync with Outlook...
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That's unfortunate your company blocks the use of non-company devices to sync. I guess it depends on how strict the IT dept policies are. I'm lucky. I have my work exchange email, contacts and calendar with me all the time. I just use the built in email app.
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I am using android sync. It is just usb sync though. You have to connect to sync.
http://www.android-sync.com/

I just got the InFuse and I downloaded the trial version of Touchdown app for Exchange. You should give it a try it is free to try and I really like this app. It syncs everything over the air and downloaded every single folder I have plus all the emails in them. I think for the corporate user this is THE app for email syncing.

Touchdown is very good...I don't do exchange at home so CompanionLink is the way to go for me to sync my Outlook contacts, tasks and notes.

I have been using Touchdown for a year it so, but yesterday I gave Moxier Email a try, and though it misses a few tricks Touchdown has, the UI and overall feeling is newer and more polished.
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So before I buy an infuse.
I currently use a tilt2 with windows mobile, and active sync software.
For my work, I cannot live without exchange server access to my:
email (use outlook on the laptop but it all comes from the exchange server)
calender: exchange server
contacts: exchange server
tasks: exchange server
I'm able to access emails, attachments, forward, reply, etc. I'm able to modify conference meeting times, and send updates from exchange to all participants. I'm able to schedule new meetings and invite attendees on the work exchange/network from my work/exchange contacts, etc, etc, etc.
I'm basically able to do everything I would do from my laptop on my phone, but with a smaller screen and keyboard.
Again I need to have all the same options that I have within outlook on my PC with email/calender/contact functions and exchange access.
Before I dive into an infuse, is this possible via the included software? or touchdown?
or do you have experiences that would lead you do suggest a different software, or a different phone all together?
I may have to wait to see if ATT will carry the HTC Titan since that will have a windows OS, but if the infuse will work well I may take the plunge sooner and wait for LTE devices to take hold for another couple years.
Thanks for any insight!!!

Good news for people who still on exchange 2003

Dear all,
This is my 1st thread in this forum. Have done a lot of research and finally found a solution for a feature i have been hoping for. Would like to share it with you guys.
It is about email problem on exchange 2003. Item 3 is the feature i wanted to share, but i am including item 1 and 2 to benefit some who might have other problem about email.
1. Connection refused to the exchange server. Symptom is it will works for a while, maybe 1 or 2 days, then it suddenly fail to connect to the server. Even a reboot will not fix it. Can only be temporary fixed by delete/recreate the account.
Solution: Install 3rd party email client. I have tested Touchdown, it never have this issue. Currently using Enhanced Email and it looks ok so far too. I know this is not a new issue and many people knows that touchdown can fix this. So this is actually not the good news i want to share.
2. Calendar refused to sync with exchange 2003.
Solution: It appear that some of your calendar entries might be corrupted or having unlimited or too many reccurence. I deleted some of my useless entries then it works fine. This is not new too.
3. There is inbound HTML mail (meaning you when you read it, it is HTML), but when you reply to the mail, it become txt format. This make it painful for the recipient to read, and it make the email chain become txt format and not looking nice anymore.
Solution: Use Enhanced Email. This is the only email client for android that i found to be supporting Outbound HTML for exchange 2003. This feature is not even available in expensive software like touchdown. Even iphone does not enjoy this feature (many people claims how effortlessly iphone is when talking about HTML for exchange 2003).
I am not here to promote Enhance Email. Just sharing this information that i believe will benefit many people.
Please click the thanks button if you find this information useful.
Best regards,
longdi

A little late reply...
As for #2 you may find many clients with this issue. Take a tip from an Exchange admin and never create an endless meeting. Always have an end date. Try to only set it for a year or so as well. Meetings with too many occurrences will tend to mess with some clients and can be corrupted because of it. The iphone used to really have issues with these as well.
and follow these:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/o...ests-essential-dos-and-donts-HA001127678.aspx

Surface doesn't support Pop3

Did you guys know this?
I think I am screwed for my email accounts.

Trying to sort out email alternatives with forwarding and such. MS has really come up with a convoluted email system, with their Outlook.com alias, etc.
I like the Surface, but I am a techy - I can see where the average user will have issues wit hthe way they do things and the lack of easy help.

It has options for pop3...What type of email do you have that it's giving issues with??
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eorsini said:
It has options for pop3...What type of email do you have that it's giving issues with??
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It has an option for Pop, but when you choose it, it will come up with an error saying its not supported . I see there are workarounds with forwarding and such but not as clean.
Until I can sort out I am forwarding all my mail through Gmail which I can pull into the Surface
The email that is causing all this is roadrunner.com

I didn't have any issues setting up my pop3 account hosted with ipower

you may need update the build-in mail app in Windows Store to newest version.

its not only RT. The windows 8 mail app doesnt support pop...... yet.

That is a curious decision by Microsoft. I haven't used a pop account in at least three years so no big deal for me.
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Windows Live Mail
Windows Live Mail supports POP3, so there's a free alternative. I haven't used POP3 in a long time, except with my comcast account, which I don't need to check everywhere, but I do have it configured in WLM.
So, I just checked my Surface, and sure enough, it does NOT support POP mail accounts. It actually tells you right when you choose POP that it's not supported and requests you ask your provider to supply IMAP or Exchange accounts.

I bought the surface two days ago on the Microsoft Store opening on San Juan. I did it tomuse it more to work and the first think I did was try to installs my work email. It is a pop3 and I really can't believe is not working... this should be a business oriented tablet.
I tried the work around but I need when I replay an email to go with my work email, not my Hotmail account.
If some one know an app that do it please let me know.

PRTEQ said:
I bought the surface two days ago on the Microsoft Store opening on San Juan. I did it tomuse it more to work and the first think I did was try to installs my work email. It is a pop3 and I really can't believe is not working... this should be a business oriented tablet.
I tried the work around but I need when I replay an email to go with my work email, not my Hotmail account.
If some one know an app that do it please let me know.
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MS is supposed to be releasing an update to Mail to fix this.

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MS is supposed to be releasing an update to Mail to fix this.
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Hope it comes before 12 days that I have to return it...
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The Mail app is generally complete junk for any non-EAS accounts. It literally would've been more fully-featured if they just ported over the Windows Phone 7.5 mail app (which supports POP3). IMAP support is horrendous (WP7's is also not great, but less atrocious), and lots of certificate-related issues.
Currently my main email account (IMAP) half-works-- sometimes emails load, but nothing sends (permanently stuck in outbox), and two other IMAP accounts don't work at all (doesn't accept the settings, which work fine on Outlook and WP7.5). Exchange accounts generally work fine.
The message they give you after you select POP3 might as well have a trollface on there.

I don't have the surface. But in add and remove, Windows companies, mail service, you need to check the pop protocol. I know my orders aren't as it is on the screen. But it's what I can remember.
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arieil said:
I don't have the surface. But in add and remove, Windows companies, mail service, you need to check the pop protocol. I know my orders aren't as it is on the screen. But it's what I can remember.
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That menu 1) doesn't exist in Windows RT and 2) even on Windows 8, it only affects Outlook, not the Metro Mail app.

I can't believe we are now a month after release of the Surface and still no POP3, or Mail program fix. On other forums and MS' own support forum, people are fuming about this stupid decision to ignore POP3 and people are returning. I know moit email providers have gone IMAP, but there are plenty of big ones who haven't yet and isn't MS all about customer choices.
Another thing - even in IMAP, if your SMTP outgoing server doesn't have SSL then you won't be able to send mail either. The only email I have that works is Gmail, and its the one I don't use much. Can't send business mail from my Surface.
I guess they want this thing to fail so they can upsell us all to the Surface Pro. . .

I am totally agreed. I read that MS push updates every second Tuesday of the month, so hopefully they fix it...
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"Oh no! MS prioritized the better, faster, more secure protocol instead of the vestigial sack of puss my primary email still uses! How ridiculous!" -Everyone in this thread.
They'll get around to pop3, but is forwarding your mail to an imap account really a nuisance? You'll get all the advantages of imap AND the original pop account acts as a backup for all mail in case something goes wrong.

link68759 said:
"Oh no! MS prioritized the better, faster, more secure protocol instead of the vestigial sack of puss my primary email still uses! How ridiculous!" -Everyone in this thread.
They'll get around to pop3, but is forwarding your mail to an imap account really a nuisance? You'll get all the advantages of imap AND the original pop account acts as a backup for all mail in case something goes wrong.
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Yes it is - SMTP is broken too for some mail servers - I can't send a stupid work email with my real email address, which is IMPA on incoming.
Your response of get around to it sounds absurd a month after launch. Believe it or not some mail providers still do use POP3, and we shouldn't have to change our email to use the surface. Its things like this that will kill RT before it even gets off the ground.
News is that MS is already cutting back on production of the Surface - Here we go.