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Hi all ...
we need some (maybe a lot) help from programmers to try to remap the hard keyboard keys from mda3.
As many guys know, we are a lot that we buy the mda3 with german hard keyboard layout... and now that we all have an english os, we must remap the key and symbols.
Any idea will be appreciated, we have all files from german os an english os.
Nobody want to broke the keyboard to glue the buttons in other place...
Nobody now how and where can order another english keyboard and replace it phisically.
Remain two thinks:
1. find the file with the layout and remap the symbols via hex edit
2. recompile a new layout (and here may be usefull for future progs)
All idea wiil be apreciated, all guru's invited
Please help us ... we can not take advantage of the new hard keyboard in this mode.
Thanks all before and...
COURAGE FOR ALL NEW POSTS THAT MUST BE UPDATED(POSTED) !!!
DenisJ
Actually, keys and numbers are fine. It's punctuation that is almost impossible to use unless you have a good memory
From what I remember of the old thread that got wasted, a few things were looked at but it seems harder than it should. You would think one or two files transferred from the PDA2K to the MDA III, like a keyboard dll and a mapping data file, would do the trick but, as usual with engineers, they made it harder than it should.
I can suggest another way for this remapping: just writing a kind of program lookind for keypressings and substitute them with another keystrokes.
I've already done it for Russian keyboard (project home page is http://ae.inc.ru/bahrus.html , but it is Russian only). Current state is "beta".
I can do some key remappings this way. But I need to know which of the keys should be replaced with which one. Or replacement table may be simply saved in config.
I'll do a tabel with the replaced hex value ...
You need only the xex value for this or need more ?
Thanks a lot
Denis
Let's try (before find all remapping simbol) to remap only the two letters z and y.
Symbolic constant Value (Hex) keyboard equivalent
VK_Y 59 Y key
VK_Z 5A Z key
like ... if '59' then '5A' and viceversa...
If we can remap this two letters, we can remap all we want.
Thanks a lot
Denis
german to english
since the site posts went down i have received my mda3 in german of course and would love to know how to flash it with an english rom, all other threads however speak of xda3nbftool which i can't find anywhere, also many of the links for required files don't work. any help please?? thank you
Re: german to english
paulmurphy777 said:
since the site posts went down i have received my mda3 in german of course and would love to know how to flash it with an english rom, all other threads however speak of xda3nbftool which i can't find anywhere, also many of the links for required files don't work. any help please?? thank you
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Go here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/
and look for Bluangel folder.
Regards
Ok, I decided to implement more general solution for this problem and develop customizable hardware key-remapping software. This application wil allow to remap not only BlueAngel built-in keyboard but almost any hardware keybord connected to wince (some of my friends use Luch or Flexis external keyboards with PDA).
Hope first beta version will appear next week.
thank you!, sure i'll be back with more questions though!
Fantastic!
I'm excited about this
AE said:
Ok, I decided to implement more general solution for this problem and develop customizable hardware key-remapping software. This application wil allow to remap not only BlueAngel built-in keyboard but almost any hardware keybord connected to wince (some of my friends use Luch or Flexis external keyboards with PDA).
Hope first beta version will appear next week.
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Wow, that's great news. (exactly what I wanted to hear!) Keep up the good work. (you rock)
AEKMap is available at http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.html
To make "remapping" you need:
- install the program;
- run Start - Programs - AEKMap Settings and choose "AZERTY MDAIII with English ROM" in first combo box
- set three other optional layouts to "unassigned" and/or unassign "switch" key.
If you want to create specific layout, you may start with editing one of the existing. Use \Program Files\AEKMap\AEKMapScan.exe to define keyboard pseudo-scan codes.
To find unicode character codes use Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map on your desktop
This program may be closed with popup menu on system tray (lower-right corner of today screen).
And I'm definitly sure that some bugs are in this utility now. Let me know if you find them
Also send me with your layouts to be published on site (will appear in a days)
P.S.: AEKMapper may be used to remap almost any external or built-in hardware keyboard recognized by system.
AWESOME!
Thanks for doing this. If i understand correctly, what's needed now to get the German MDA III keyboard mapped correctly, following the imate english rom installation, is to:
use AEKmapscan.exe to identify all the keys that need remapping
then look up the correct unicode characters for the desired keymapping
enter them into a .AEK file and put into the Program Files/AEKMap directory on the MDA III.
If i get some free time today, that's what I'll do. If anybody beats me to it, please post!
thanks again, AE!
So here is a mostly working layout file for the MDAIII German. The only thing that seems to be not working is the semicolon/colon key just to the right of the space bar. that key seems to have no shifted mode, according to aekmapscan.exe
also: if aekmapscan.exe is running, this appears to stop the keyboard from working at all in applications. it needs to be stopped entirely.
Thanks again for this great tool!
It is always nice to know your job is needful to someone
As for the problem with semicolon: changing CapsLock/Shift processing flags should help:
HookShift 1
HookCapsLock 1
Probably I'll find a better solution for this later, but now I can't...
Official project home page will be available at http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.html
thanks for the tool, works great. Can you add an option to not have the mapping name on the bottom, i.e. DenisJ Layout? It covers up the wireless icon that I use to turn Wifi on & off.
thanks again for the app
you already can turn it off. that's the "hint" option in the settings.
A parts from thanks the great job from AE, i wan't to try to ask a question:
In the registry there's a part...
HKCU/Keyboard Layout that have a profile value..
Could it be usefull..
My German Mda3 have... preload/1 set to e0010409.
Can anyone post the english Pda2K value...
Rups..
Bug report
AEKMap works quite well, thanks to the developer!
But...
I noticed that, when AEKMap is on, you can´t adjust sound/volume levels from the external button on the left side of the screen. Is that a bug or a feature? :roll:
Second thing is that if you switch the AEKMap off, you can switch it on only by softreset. Is that ment to be?
Can anyone confirm those features, or is it just in my MDAIII?
-Jigi
Sorry guys but i just arive from my fisrt (this year) snowboard weekend
AE many many thanks from me and (as can you see) from all other guys with the same german mda3...
I just tryed some days ago to begin something like this using EVC++ 4.0 ... but it's too much to study for an as400 programmer
This will be surrely in my startup programs for a log live time of my mda3...
Surelly we will ask you some options in future ...
Another lot of thanks
DenisJ
I found a cooked wm5 rom with a iphone look!!!!
It's WWE (us english actualy) and it's full of tweaks and add-ons! check it out
check this site for screenshots http://www.cnsmartphone.com/29170/viewspace_2061.html
My first findings:
AKU 3.0
.netCF 2.0 in rom
Wm5torage
Great camera software
strange but can't find pocket msn or msn messenger anywhere....
new icons
nice apple logo instead of the windows logo.
great homescreen (very iphone)
celetask included (just press home key during 2 seconds but it's in chinese)
A very nice clock near the batery indicator.
Quite fast and stable.
i'll post more later for now it's time to reisntall my apps and games.
PS: please someone find us a way to have T9 in this rom...
here is babelfish.altavista.com translation:
---- Is suitable the type based on Singapore 2.0.11.0 edition: HTC the Tornado type (586W broadcast plug-in unit has not installed) ---- the partial systems document to take from HTC S620 (Aku3.0), the document edition has the promotion ---- ROM document is OS are partial, nbf document format ---- typeface: Song typeface ---- language: English ---- input method: A4 ---- Promotes the version ---- to join the short note service the WMP player to 10.3.15097 edition ---- promotion communications manager to 1.2.0.0 edition ---- promotion photographs software to 4.00 (Build23355), Push the Mail switch ---- joins the automatic time zone/time function (to have to coordinate corresponding GSM) ---- ---- to initialize China the promotion color letter procedure to 3.1.2.12 edition to move CMWAP to turn on network establishment ---- IA File Manager resource management ---- WM5torage 1.7 to sinicize the version ---- CeleTask 2.2 task managements and to integrate the Long_Home pressed key ---- to join the A2DP blue tooth stereo sound, the revision high-frequency unit flaw, Removes noise ---- multi- Pu to reach the SIM card manager ---- contact person to tabulate the chart sign ---- condition fence time........... Deletion: ---- Pocket MSN ---- Java MIDlet the Manager ---- system brings the chromosphere game ---- to like in the frame pattern plate, the camera tacitly approves the picture, the sound and the video recording
I'm already using it.
The cons: has no t9, but a chinese input method.
Post your findings please!!!!
Download it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KB511Z85 or try here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HA3DKV61
happy upgrading for you guys, have a nice weekend i'll be back on monday to see your comments!!!
What font is being used? is it the typical Chinese ac3 font or Segoe?
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
Guys this really works,
Just installed it on my SP5 over an SP5m firmware. Its very quick to install too. it took 3 minutes to install.
I will advise if it worths.
any news on this?
This is the fastest rom I used on tornado without overclocking. Quicker boot, quicker logoff and menu control. It is very pretty looking like Iphone.
The only negative is that the default input language is chinese, so you have to press * a lot to write. Everything else is in english.
If you are a tech freak use it.
Cheers
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
dwest218 said:
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
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I agree. also, it would be very annoying to keep on pressing "*" everytime you want to input text
a tutorial on how to make custom roms would be very helpfull.
madds said:
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
da_mayhem said:
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
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were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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greatbal said:
were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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Haven't tried it pare, wala na ako Tornado Try mo pre
Would appreciate if someone could post the free storage space and RAM left right after loading the ROM..
Thanks
anybody going to strip this down?!
would be great to get an aku3.x rom update for the tornado!
this one looks great. wm6 would be better though.
Wow, decided to quickly throw this on right before I took off to work this morning.
The very first think I noticed was the fix for my Motorola ht820 A2DP headphones! No more will I have to deal with the high pitched distortion/noise!
I'm assuming this was either just a partial flash, or it was built upon an imate rom because I still have my imate splash screen at the beginning.
I'm at work now, and I really should be working, so I wont have a chance to install any programs or tweak with the homescreen at all . . .
The iphone stuff is well done, but I couldnt care less about having a minimal looking screen, I'll go back to my previous settings . .
Also, hopefully I can search around here enough to find out how to get my t9 back. . . . not the end of the world but would be nice.
Would also be nice to get the midlet manager back.
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0)
Radio version 4.0.13.25_01.14.00
RIL 2.002
Available Storage 18.35
Total Storage 20.94
Available Memory 26.64
Total Memory 45.05
ROM update versions (blank)
Operator 5.1.195.14847
Sys info
ROM version 2.0.11.0
OPERATOR version 2.5.39.2
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
dwest218 said:
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
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Hi, i've already tried that solution but it doesn't work.
it's a diferent input software they used in this rom, it lacks suport for t9.
Can someone who knows how to speak chinese try to contact the maker of this rom (it's the guy in the link with screenshots i believe) and ask him for suport on how to make a xd-devs rom???
that would be fantastic.
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Hi everyone,
First i wud like 2 say dat i m very junior in this forum, this site is amazing so i wud like to ask u sum silly question about my i-mate pdal, i hope u will help me :-
1. Can i use radio in my i-mate pdal, if yes so how ?? ( i have micro sd card in my pda)
2. Is theres ne prgm. which can added background music i.e. traffic, rain etc in between answering calls. Like if i m talking wid my friend so is there ne option to start background music between calls. If there is any prgm. like that plzzzzz.. tell me.
3. In which pda brand`s section where i can view my i-mate pdal related problem and upgrading advices etc.
Plz. 4give me in advance if i asked sum silly question. waiting 4 ur fastest reply
Bye nd take care u all
3 in general as it's not a htc device and as such dont have it's own forum
writeonthis
writeonthis said:
Hi everyone,
First i wud like 2 say dat i m very junior in this forum, this site is amazing so i wud like to ask u sum silly question about my i-mate pdal, i hope u will help me :-
1. Can i use radio in my i-mate pdal, if yes so how ?? ( i have micro sd card in my pda)
2. Is theres ne prgm. which can added background music i.e. traffic, rain etc in between answering calls. Like if i m talking wid my friend so is there ne option to start background music between calls. If there is any prgm. like that plzzzzz.. tell me.
3. In which pda brand`s section where i can view my i-mate pdal related problem and upgrading advices etc.
Plz. 4give me in advance if i asked sum silly question. waiting 4 ur fastest reply
Bye nd take care u all
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There is no stupid question! Except, possibly, a question not asked… Don’t stop asking.
Hi junior dude,
Hehe, well as you can see I’m also pretty much a junior forum member, so you’re not alone on this amazing site. I’ll quickly try to answer your questions as thoroughly as possible.
1. The only radio that the pdal has is the radio that handles all of your calls and data connections so you’re already using it, it doesn’t have an actuall radio that can be used for listening to music. If listening to music is what you what to do then you basically have 2 choices, firstly you can call some toll free number after office hours to listen to their switch board music without them answering the phone or, secondly, you can download an application that you can use for listening music on the internet, it’s a bit more expensive than the first option but you can listen to music you actually enjoy. Just Google something like “pocket pc internet radio” and you’ll find a few resources on how to go about using the second option.
2. I searched around a bit and couldn’t find such an application. Although I think it might be possible, it’s not going to be easy. All of the music players that I’ve worked with will simply stop playing when you make or receive a call. On some of them you can even press play and it will continue but you won’t hear anything. The reason why I say that it might be possible is because one can hear sounds activated by notifications when busy with a call. Let me know when you find such an application.
3.
Rudegar said:
3 in general as it's not a htc device and as such dont have it's own forum
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Hope it helped.
thanxxxxxxxx
Thanx a lottttttt........4 ur help
Hello everyone,
After a lot of "tricks& hicks" on my phone, I've lost the ability to type sms, mail and MMS...
I mean I can type the To: with letters, but when typing any letter in the sms area, nothing except a beep.
I've surfed the forum but nothing, I think I changed in the registry the type of input specificity of the tmail.exe when trying to install HTC keyboard, EZ input...
but can't find where.
Does anyone faced that before, and could give me another answer than Hard Rest ?
Best regards, ad long live XDA
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Seems no one ever had this strange sms issue
Hey hey,
I've just seen the answer of skribzy in this topic this night, and it WORKS!!!
big big up to you
QUote:
I had this problems - First get 'HD Tweak'
Open HD Tweak and go down to section 20 (Keyboard)
Disable T9 mode - I think that did it!
Regards and Xda rocks!!!
+1
Cheers Jeant, you just fixed my Diamond from enterring numbers rather than letters in SMS with the keyboard set to phonepad. That'll learn me for changing EVERY setting at once in diamond tweak, if it ain't broke don't fix...
Ok first of all I would like to thank everyone here at xda-developers for all the hard work and time you put in everything you guys do.
And I would like to apologize for a few things
1) I m really sorry i can not support you guys financially because i dont have a credit card and money is very very very tight (i had to trick a girl in to buying the Touch Pro for me as a "gift" ) , i know it's painstaking work
2) I apologize for oppening a new thread I don't know if it's right place for it
3) I'm sorry for my bad english if I misspell something my english is somewhat rusty
4) I'm sorry if my ideas or thoughts will be the one's of a noob (but it's better to be one for 5 minutes then be one a whole life)
5) Sorry if my imagination is a bit wild
So with that out of the wey let me introduce myself and i'll get straight to the point
My name is Laurentiu but my but my friends call me Sayr
I'm from Romania (a small insegnificant rat hole of a country, if you don't know where that is just think DRACULA)
I live in Bucarest
And i'm 23
The Touch Pro is my first HTC phone and my second Windows Mobile powerd phone , my first was a E-Ten GloFiish X500 which i found on the street one day , and i loved Windows Mobile and with the things I could do with it since then.
I thought it was perfect till i started to search the web for apps and stuf and ran across this site and seen all the possibilities and started to tweek the phone but it got me thinking about how can it be better thanx to you guys.
So i would like to throw in my 2 cents. and ask your opinion .
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- Is it possible to extend the Comm Manager to include the hidden settings for : beam , data connectin , 3G , etc... alongside the standard on off settings?
I discovered this settings using the advanced configuration tool
Because this setthings are very handy to have at hand
I know for certain that Beam is permananty activ by default, but i don't know for certain but i think that Beam uses up battery, i'v seen some improvement in battery power since i turned beam off , but perhap it's just mai imagination.
Data connection on/off setting is is also great to have at hand because in some apps it it doesn't startup automatically wen the app needs it or it doesn't shutdown after you exit the app , for example Skype 3.0
And 3G on/off setting is also grate
- Is it possible to have a program thet emulates Port 80? meaning that i can connect to the internet using the phone form a computer or laptop using the Port 8080 on the device,
Let me give you a example becaus i dont know technical talk, this is wath the guy over at vodafone technical support told me in regard to way i cant connect to the internet using the phone with the data plan i have , (is the only one available for prepaid cards in romania, there is another one but is way too expensive 1€ per MB , the more affordable one is 4€ per month and is unlimited , but it only work's on the phone) he said that the computer connects to Port 80 but the phone connects to port 8080 on the proxy server and the proxy server will not accept a incoming connection from Port 80, so can a bridge program be made to tel the proxy server that it is sending and receiving data from a app that uses Port 8080 when the PC tries to access the connectin , same same is true for some apps they will not accept this tipe of connectin becaus of the port difference, this port restriction closes many doors.
- Is it possible to make a phone lock that is simple and efficient to us and that eliminates annoying things.
Wath I'm thinking in in terms of features is:
*Automatic lock on sleeap
*Disengag via 2 second pres on center of the D-pad
*Lock screen wen incoming call but unlock after answering
*Obtional password protection
Very simple an comfortable to us, no annoying settings, no timers
Form me and i'm sure for many it would be the perfect thing to to avoid answering unwanted calls by mistake , calling by my mistake if phone turn's on in pocket, etc .....
- XDA tab, a tab in which you cand view the forum and a particular particular thread of your choosing and respond to postings in real time
and if posible to set it up to view other forums to?
- Bug Fix , when i set a ringthon other then the default "bips" for the SmS , mms , e-mail .... it doesn't stop ringing even after I read the message , it shod stop the moment i press the message tab,
Can this Bug be fixed? (i have standard/default rom)
- A minimize tab , ok we all know that we can set the "X" to close the apps completely a very nice feature provided by HTC but , some times we dont want to close a app for example Acrobat Reader or Opera or YouTube but want it or not we have to, it would be nice to have a tab to minimize one or more apps in while acces other apps and and sweach between them
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Ok I'm back,
- So so another idea I'v got is for TouchFlo can TouchFlo asspacialy for the landscape mode,
ok so it's cool to have a TF interface like in portrait mode in landscape mode because the default one is horibal , but wath if we can make better use of it , to have different tabs in landscape mode then the ones in portrait mode that are more usefull in landscape ,
in landscape things like the pepel tab, standard home tab, pictures tab , music tab , etc , are not usefull,
but things like connectin manager tab , today tab , something like a mailing list tab , a programabil sms or email tab (by programabil i meen you can set it up to text or mail with a cerit contact or grup in that tab) , a skype tab , etc ...
- a radio tab for the inbuilt radio
- a small keymaping tweak to make "Enter" on the hardware keybord the send key via "Fn + Enter"
(i do aloat of texting that is the main reason i wanted a phone with a full qwerty keyboard, like 60 to 100 a day 2000 - 3000 a month i use it like messenger so it will be a lot nicer if the key was maped that wey , for pepel ho do a lot of texting)
- is the GPS recever on all the time ?
or it just start's up wen a'n app need's it ?
if it is permanantly on dosent it wareout the battery ?
can a on / off switch be made to tur it off wen it is of no use ?
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Hi & welcome to XDA.... there really is a lot of information here for your phone - pretty much if you can think of it then it'll be here somewhere... just a quick idea reading through your post, the software to lock your screen have a look at PocketShield - I use
it and have to say the author is fantastic, updates almost daily and it's really cheaply priced for what it does (think it's under £7??) I've been using it for a while and think it's excellent, but that's just my opinion...
Anyways, hope you get some more answers to your questions, don't worry abou being a n00b, we all were at one time!!!
MadMic
Thanks for the heads up MadMic i'll look into it and
I'll look around the forum for more info so i can learn how to put my ideas in practice
but i truly wish for a few how-to's on how to do this things , on ware to start ,
wath is wath and on wath software's / programs to use , the basics, you know ,
in plain language ...
are there such things?