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Well I'm writing this because of the complaints of lagginess and/or crap from AT&T.
While I'm not a dev genius, I do know my way around iPhone OS and WM and Android is coming pretty naturally to me. IF YOU JUST READ THREE THREADS YOU CAN HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONE. There. I said it.
Seriously, if you are complaining about it being laggy, its because the ATT crapware likes to turn on for no reason in the background. REMOVE it!
Install Titanium Backup, allow it to update and then go to manage and uninstall ONLY ATT APPS. don't get rid of google apps or **** goes crazy
If you're complaining about not being able to install LauncherPro or easytheter, learn how to sideload! Seriously, you can use adb and droid explorer if you'd like (really simple) or you can edit ONE LINE in your database and get it directly on your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728121
If you're wondering how to do all this, just ROOT. It takes 30 seconds, it's longer to reboot the phone than to root it. Just get the update, it does absolutely nothing to your phone, just installs superuser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725555
I'm just getting pissed because this is supposed to be a poweruser site and lots people here are just bickering about things when they could simply fix them.
I know my account doesn't have many posts, but I've been around (Didn't feel like keeping TyTNic_Dev was fitting considering I haven't had the TyTN for about 4 years now) And while I'll try and contribute what I can, IMO this subforum would be alot cleaner if everyone stopped complaining and kept everything relevent.
Talking about how you "hate the phone, its so laggy need to go back to iPhone" or just "don't understand what all the fuss about Android is" just GTFO, or leach off everyones contributions. It really drags the thread down when people have all that hate and negativity. Especially when a few tweaks and the phone runs like a dream.
I've rooted, enabled sideload, and removed bloatware, as soon as I get all the kinks in my flash plugin, I'll have a phone that is as powerful (or even better) than anything else currently on the market. I suggest you do the same, then you'll probably be singing its praises as well.
ok..phew..
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so yeah, root and fix the phone. you'll be glad you did
Good post. Just to help people maybe throw some links where u say to do each mod.
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V DidDy 210 said:
Seriously, if you are complaining about it being laggy, its because the ATT crapware likes to turn on for no reason in the background. REMOVE it!
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
But yes, rooting is easy, but there's not a whole bunch of reason to do it quite yet.
Edit- there's also not much reason to NOT do it either.
I agree with you 100%. Like yoursef, im not one to have tons of replies, but ive been following XDA since my Tilt (not tilt 2). I think the issue is that we have a lot of new followers (welcome!) coming over from the Iphone and they are not use to what this board is all about.These arent apps you just install, this is software development/enhancements all in one place. Hopefully when the WIKI is back up (or created rather), there can be a nice "how to" section for everyone to reference.
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
But yes, rooting is easy, but there's not a whole bunch of reason to do it quite yet.
Edit- there's also not much reason to NOT do it either.
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I just restarted my phone, and there was a huge list of apps that were running right off of startup. A lot were at&t (naviagtor, ect.) and some were not.
EDIT- I know a lot of people are talking abut the lag due to the samsung UI, but I really dont care about the live wallpapers and I have a regular background so I dont get any lag at all. I am excited about the 2.2 update to gain the speed and access to the other 256mb or RAM. That alone will make this device a great phone. I am really enjoying android verses my WiMo devices (tilt 2 was the latest).
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I just restarted my phone, and there was a huge list of apps that were running right off of startup. A lot were at&t (naviagtor, ect.) and some were not.
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If that's true then this is a good reason to do so but I haven't seen that happen I guess.
After I instaled task manager I noticed most att apps would start on there own. I was always looking at what was running to try and save my batt.
Ive never hit the att apps at all since I had phone. After rooting and removing att crap nothing tuns in background execpt what I open.
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When you root do you have to manually update to froyo or does it give you the option?
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When you root do you have to manually update to froyo or does it give you the option?
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I'm wondering the same thing...
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
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happens to me all the time. random AT&T crap will start on its own
Thanks guys, yeah whenever you start ANY navigator app, att navi will start (its triggered by the gps starting) when you start any music player att music starts (it is triggered by com.google.music(sic))
these little things can be avoided and lets be honest, the stock touchwiz music player is really good. I have copilot so no reason to pay att. Navigation is a top notch free gps too.
the only one I could see is maybe you like mobitv, that is actually pretty decent of an app, but things like allsport, where, ypmobile, all of these can be accomplished using the browser.
I'll edit the post to include the links, but I just feel like when I'd be working on code or something, if someone was whining it wouldn't motivate me.. Why would I wanna program the Captivate (apart form sheer love) for people who'd just complain you know?
I'm messing around with the sdk and what not and I just got me a second Captivate so i'll be doing all sorts of tests to see what it'll take to get stock froyo on it, but i'm still a novice so i'll keep updating everyone and hopefully we can get 2.2 as a community
@V DidDy 210 I like your attitude. I hope more devs like you come around to the captivate scene as I would and the community as well would greatly appreciate it. I know I will. I will try my best to contribute and help with any interesting development on this device.
I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
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happens to me all the time. random AT&T crap will start on its own
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Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
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I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
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What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.
I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.
I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
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Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
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This is true, but while they are running there they still consume even the smallest amounts of usable memory...unless you like the ATT apps there isn't any real reason to keep them. Even if it uses 1kb of ram...its still 1kb of ram wasted
Excellent post but more importantly.... it seems to be a very necessary post. I loved the site when I had my Hermes, Kaiser, Touch, and other HTC devices ~2006 - 2008 but now that I came back with my Android device, it definitely seems like the tone has changed.
My question its are we all having the same problem? I experience lag, unresponsive touch due to lag also a black screen that hangs when you open a app. If so, I'm rooting right now. Please some one confirm. BTW this its a universal problem with all Samsung galaxy s phone. So I'm inclined to think its the firmware not the att bloatware.
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What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.
I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.
I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
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Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction?
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Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction?
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LOL. I thought you were serious for a moment.
Thanks everyone for all our contributions may it be a question that helps someone else or a roms that makes our phone walk on water.
Today I was switching my battery (*ebay 2 for 10 with charger) and my phone was starting back up but wouldnt get past the samsung glowing s. I searched the forums to see if anyone else had complaind about that kind of freeze or stuck and couldn't find anything.
So after an internal battle of should I post this to general or question. I settled on question but decided let me just see if I can fix it myself. I had never used odin before mind you just the one click root and the mods in my sig.
So I odin3'd to basic JF6. Did the start Odin hold volume buttons and plug in method. (PS if you think your phone is getting slow it prob is cause man is a fresh odin nice and snappy.) Once in I looked at my files and low and behold I found out Odin doesn't erase your internal memory card.
3 months of letting my phone run 3am Titanium Backups paid off!!!
Always back up your APPS!!!!
But to run Titanium I would have to root again, well hell go big or go home so I decided to go Cognition v2.2 beta 5.5 cause hell it has root and Titanium baked in with a Froyo chaser. It installed over Odin stand alone first shot. and ran titanium and now its re-installing all my apps and their data, But Not system data!, lol.
The most annoying part of all of this has been clicking Install, and Done for every app. (I'm getting the paid version after this, I owe them, but does the paid version skip this process?)
So I just wanted to say thank you everyone for your contributions. I am one of the people who reads almost every post but doesnt say much. But I thought A thank you and a happy outcome story was needed for the captivate boards rather than these annoying Im returning this, it doesnt work, help me cause Im lazy to search posts.
sounds like your doing well with your cappy
ooh and to answer the question the full paid Titbu skips the dreaded install process. best paid for app i bought so far. I will note that i had to go into preferences and change the app processing mode. figured that out on my own so no biggie there
Anyone else get an update text message from AT&T? I am running Assonance 2.0
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Yea I got a text running perception 5. Not sure its froyo or a really late text for jh7.
I've been getting them for the last few days, though I'm not willing to flash to find out lol....
I got it shortly after flashing to cognition 2.3b6 - checked for new OTA updates and didn't get anything.
Just tried and failed to connect to server.. though it's probaly nothing. Been a lot of posts about people getting texts to update (I haven't gotten one, I'm running stock JH7). I think it's just AT&T trying to get everyone to update to JH7.
From androidforums.com:
"This has been happening for a while now. People who are running anything other than Samsung/AT&T firmware have been getting these notices."
Stock
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Anyone else get an update text message from AT&T? I am running Assonance 2.0
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Nope. Stock.
1. AT&T doesn't know what firmware you are running. They are STILL sending out general update notifications to remind people to update to JH7.
2. There are two other threads in the forum, on the front page discussing the same topic...LOL. Come on guys.
For whatever it's worth, I spoke with three AT&T techs today, from common answerer, all to UPPER LEVEL WIRELESS TECH, and the answers I got from all three, screwed my thinking, which at times, AT&T does well. The OTA to side-load they been speaking of, IS NOT A SOFTWARE UPDATE, as I thought it had to be, but online instructions, on how to make am adjustment, Menu, then Settings, to stop BLOCKING the install of NON MARKET APPS, like from Amazon. I thought the OTA, was a software 'patch' that would fix the blocking of apps not from the Market, but they all told me, that the OTA, was really a set of steps, that showed you how to make the MANUAL ADJUSTMENTS, on my Captivate. Maybe I'm the only one feeling like an idiot over this, but that is how I was left feeling. They sent not one, but two different text mess., that for some reason, didn't do a thing, so the upper level tech, tried walking me through the adjustment, his own self, but he flat failed to tell me how. He finally suggested, that since it was Amazon's appstore app I was trying to install, and my Captivate still was BLOCKING the install, to ask AMAZON for help, in case THEY KNOW how to make the adjustments on the Captivate, or better, to ask SAMSUNG, since it's their phone. The guy was nice..., but why do I feel shafted for paying outrageous premiums for service from AT&T, but when I ask for help, I get shoved along to someone else, for them to help me?
Has anyone heard, that the OTA, is NOT SOFTWARE, but actually instructions, to make in your phones settings? If anyone could give a rational explanation of this to me, I'd appreciate it. My AT&T Samsung Captivate, is a great phone, to me, but AT&T, leaves a lot to be desired. Any suggestions?
Please don't hijack threads.
Anyways if it is instructions then they will need to push out an ota to even enable the option. They removed the option to prevent people from enabling it to begin with.
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Anyone else get an update text message from AT&T? I am running Assonance 2.0
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Last night my wife's phone completely hung. Had to use 3-button combo to get into recovery and reboot. After reboot, Device Management was running endlessly. Tried to kill it but it wouldn't stop. Tried to use TIBU to freeze it but TIBU wiuldn't open. Finally killed it by clearing Device Management data. Went into TIBU again and froze it. Unbelievable. Her phone is stock 2.2 but rooted. 2 hours later, I noticed on my phone that Device Management was running (notification bar). Went through the same sequence to kill it and freeze it. I will never defrost this!!
On my stock 2.2 not rooted cappy it was enabled just by turning the phone off and back on a couple of days ago.
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For whatever it's worth, I spoke with three AT&T techs today, from common answerer, all to UPPER LEVEL WIRELESS TECH, and the answers I got from all three, screwed my thinking, which at times, AT&T does well. The OTA to side-load they been speaking of, IS NOT A SOFTWARE UPDATE, as I thought it had to be, but online instructions, on how to make am adjustment, Menu, then Settings, to stop BLOCKING the install of NON MARKET APPS, like from Amazon. I thought the OTA, was a software 'patch' that would fix the blocking of apps not from the Market, but they all told me, that the OTA, was really a set of steps, that showed you how to make the MANUAL ADJUSTMENTS, on my Captivate. Maybe I'm the only one feeling like an idiot over this, but that is how I was left feeling. They sent not one, but two different text mess., that for some reason, didn't do a thing, so the upper level tech, tried walking me through the adjustment, his own self, but he flat failed to tell me how. He finally suggested, that since it was Amazon's appstore app I was trying to install, and my Captivate still was BLOCKING the install, to ask AMAZON for help, in case THEY KNOW how to make the adjustments on the Captivate, or better, to ask SAMSUNG, since it's their phone. The guy was nice..., but why do I feel shafted for paying outrageous premiums for service from AT&T, but when I ask for help, I get shoved along to someone else, for them to help me?
Has anyone heard, that the OTA, is NOT SOFTWARE, but actually instructions, to make in your phones settings? If anyone could give a rational explanation of this to me, I'd appreciate it. My AT&T Samsung Captivate, is a great phone, to me, but AT&T, leaves a lot to be desired. Any suggestions?
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What is with all of the commas? Load a rom and don't worry about any ota from AT&T!
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine
no problem here rogers Canada ftw side loading enabled from the beginning. and as for the messages if you want them to stop just block them. and chances are if your on this site you have sideloading anyways
I just purchased the inspire today, little over a hour ago, very familiar with the custom roms and android, just came from captivate. Mine came with rom manager installed, how does this make sense? its not even rooted. And if for some reason it is a returned phone can they resale it as new?
If you put in your Google account when the phone first boots up it automatically starts installing the apps you had installed previously (in this case, you must have had a phone with ROM Manager on it tied to your Google account at some point).
really? it never did that on captivate, and it was only that maps and soemthing else that was on there asking if i wanted to update them. like right away, i never seen anything like it was d/l something i had tons of stuff installed on my other phone.
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really? it never did that on captivate, and it was only that maps and soemthing else that was on there asking if i wanted to update them. like right away, i never seen anything like it was d/l something i had tons of stuff installed on my other phone.
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That feature was always broken on Samsung ROMs. Did you ever install CM? The feature worked on CM so maybe that's where you had ROM Manager installed and it was backed up.
well i was back on stock been back on stock for awhile on samsung phone. and yea had rom manager installed on it, but had alot of other stuff from market. When I got this phone today right when i started messing with it something came up asking if i wanted to update 4 apps and rom manager was one of them. So made me think it came with it, and if it d/l the app for me shouldnt it have asked me? I mean some apps are pretty big. and if it did d/l it cause i had it on other phone where are all the other apps i had? btw it never did that with my droid x or vibrant either.
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well i was back on stock been back on stock for awhile on samsung phone. and yea had rom manager installed on it, but had alot of other stuff from market. When I got this phone today right when i started messing with it something came up asking if i wanted to update 4 apps and rom manager was one of them. So made me think it came with it, and if it d/l the app for me shouldnt it have asked me? I mean some apps are pretty big. and if it did d/l it cause i had it on other phone where are all the other apps i had? btw it never did that with my droid x or vibrant either.
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Sounds like it was a returned phone to me. Just for grins I had a friend at my old att store test one out, threw my sim in and loaded it up, set my account up to check email and non of my apps installed from the market, had a prompt to update gmail and I think one other but that was about it. Did you get it from a core ATT store or a local retailer?
I have had this on several different phones, though it never worked on my captivate. I believe if you select backup google data at some point and then again when setting up the new phone it triggers it. Not all apps will automatically download but many do.
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I have had this on several different phones, though it never worked on my captivate. I believe if you select backup google data at some point and then again when setting up the new phone it triggers it. Not all apps will automatically download but many do.
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Hmm see learn something new everyday. Sense the cap was my first Android device I never knew. Thanks Newter for the info. I will be spending a bit more time in this forum as well from now on. Gotta love learning lmao
of the 20 or so i have unboxed i have yet to see one with it on there ... my guess is it is a possible return that was resold ...
did you get it at a dealership store? (radio shack, best buy, or a similar place) or an actual corporate store?
Had a weird thing happen the past couple of days. This is on a bone stock HTC Inspire. I get a star in the notification area. When I expand the notification it says 'Your phone is running too slow' or something similar. When I click on it, it takes me to speeddroid.com or somewhere similar. I closed the browser before it could go any further. I looked at the apps and nothing seems out of place. Any thoughts?
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Had a weird thing happen the past couple of days. This is on a bone stock HTC Inspire. I get a star in the notification area. When I expand the notification it says 'Your phone is running too slow' or something similar. When I click on it, it takes me to speeddroid.com or somewhere similar. I closed the browser before it could go any further. I looked at the apps and nothing seems out of place. Any thoughts?
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Sounds like you've got an app that's sending ads to your notification bar if you google it you should find some ways to get rid of it
Sent through the power of Cthulhu!
Lovely. The spyware cleaners have migrated from pc's to android phones.
Check your running services also, if you haven't already. If nothing looks out of place in apps, it's probably hiding in services, which probably still could be traced back to some app you've installed.
There's nothing built-in to a bone-stock phone that would do that.
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Had a weird thing happen the past couple of days. This is on a bone stock HTC Inspire. I get a star in the notification area. When I expand the notification it says 'Your phone is running too slow' or something similar. When I click on it, it takes me to speeddroid.com or somewhere similar. I closed the browser before it could go any further. I looked at the apps and nothing seems out of place. Any thoughts?
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You've got malware son
I know that this is malware. Also it is my wifes phone She has had it a week and she has already managed to jack it up. Ive had my Atrix since launch and have had no problems.
I will check the processes and see if I notice anything. She thinks the only adverse thing was accidentally clicking adds in Words with Friends. Tried a couple Anitvirus/Spyware apps from the market but everything said the phone was clean.
Also in her pictures, it downloaded some ads for vodka, and has some buttons for a UI... Very odd.
Edit: AirPush was able to tell me what was sending crap out. Pentris (Not Quite Tetris) was the app. I took a look and sure enough in the market it states it pushes out an ad a day. I showed my wife, told her she needs to read about the apps a bit more. So word to the wise, read about the app before you install!
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I know that this is malware. Also it is my wifes phone She has had it a week and she has already managed to jack it up. Ive had my Atrix since launch and have had no problems.
I will check the processes and see if I notice anything. She thinks the only adverse thing was accidentally clicking adds in Words with Friends. Tried a couple Anitvirus/Spyware apps from the market but everything said the phone was clean.
Also in her pictures, it downloaded some ads for vodka, and has some buttons for a UI... Very odd.
Edit: AirPush was able to tell me what was sending crap out. Pentris (Not Quite Tetris) was the app. I took a look and sure enough in the market it states it pushes out an ad a day. I showed my wife, told her she needs to read about the apps a bit more. So word to the wise, read about the app before you install!
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AirPush worked fine I have no more problems with Your phone is running slow. Thanks man
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I know that this is malware. Also it is my wifes phone She has had it a week and she has already managed to jack it up. Ive had my Atrix since launch and have had no problems.
Edit: AirPush was able to tell me what was sending crap out. Pentris (Not Quite Tetris) was the app. I took a look and sure enough in the market it states it pushes out an ad a day. I showed my wife, told her she needs to read about the apps a bit more. So word to the wise, read about the app before you install!
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I have found with computers and phones alike, that sites/apps/services that are targeted toward women and people in demographics less likely to be tech savvy are riddled with malware. My wife spends 15 minutes on the computer looking for recipes or knitting patterns and the thing is on fire, gasping it's last breath, while I spend huge amounts of time doing things of a highly technical, sometimes questionably legal nature with nary a problem. I guess it's because people who know what they're doing are unlikely to install something "because the internet told me to," so the jerks who make that stuff don't waste their time on our sites. So, all that to say, I try to pay attention to what she's doing. It saves me a ton of time down the road.
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I have found with computers and phones alike, that sites/apps/services that are targeted toward women and people in demographics less likely to be tech savvy are riddled with malware. My wife spends 15 minutes on the computer looking for recipes or knitting patterns and the thing is on fire, gasping it's last breath, while I spend huge amounts of time doing things of a highly technical, sometimes questionably legal nature with nary a problem. I guess it's because people who know what they're doing are unlikely to install something "because the internet told me to," so the jerks who make that stuff don't waste their time on our sites. So, all that to say, I try to pay attention to what she's doing. It saves me a ton of time down the road.
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NotSoSimple said:
Had a weird thing happen the past couple of days. This is on a bone stock HTC Inspire. I get a star in the notification area. When I expand the notification it says 'Your phone is running too slow' or something similar. When I click on it, it takes me to speeddroid.com or somewhere similar. I closed the browser before it could go any further. I looked at the apps and nothing seems out of place. Any thoughts?
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I had the same prob with my phone...
Figured that an app named QR Reader by DrHu was the culprit for my issue
How i figured?
I guess i was just lucky... i clicked the notification, as soon as i clicked it i saw the app name on the taskbar... and i unstalled it! fixed!