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I was helping someone get started with Google Voice in a thread, and thought a little tutorial might help people out, so I wrote one. I'd like input if you guys think I got something wrong, or left something out. I hope this can help someone.
The pdf has been updated as of 2/16/2010 with more info:
http://i0v.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Google-Voice-for-Noobs.pdf
But I figured some people might like plain text, so I'll paste it too.
I probably won't update the plain text here because it will just be getting longer and longer
(that is, unless someone requests it)
Google Voice for Noobs
Transitioning to Google Voice, on a Sprint HTC Hero
First Revision 2/14/10
What Is Google Voice?
First off, I think it helps to think of Google Voice like a switch box of some sort. You can feed telephone calls in and feed them back out, in whatever direction you’d like. The original intended functionality of GV was to allow you give people one number (your GV number) and then it would ring all of your phones when someone calls that number.
Now this might be helpful for some people, but I know the majority of people here probably don’t have more than one phone. But this setup can still be useful for people who want to use their Google Voice number as the number they give out to people. This setup is really the easiest, because once you’ve entered your cell phone in Google Voice under Settings > Phones, you’re pretty much done. The other advantage to this route is that you can have GV ask callers for their name before it rings your phone (call screening), and some other cool features. If you still want to use your Sprint phone number and just use GV for voicemail, see the next section.
Note: Now when you now first set up Google Voice, it asks if you want to set it up as strictly voicemail and then steps you through steps similar to the following section. It then gives you a more limited feature set for just the options that apply to when you’re using it as voicemail. If that’s all you want to do, then that might be the route to go. If at some point, you want to use a scenario similar to the one above Go to Settings >’Phones’ tab > Get a Google number (thanks to Jon at Hebb Networks for clarifying this)
Google Voice as Voicemail
(This is basically an explanation of what Google walks you through when you go to Settings > “Activate Google voicemail for this phone” on the GV website)
Note that sometime around November 2009, Sprint decided to make CONDITIONAL call forwarding free, so we’re going to configure it like this:
In this situation what you’ll do is dial *285555555555 (replace the 5’s with your GV number) and then press talk. You should hear some beeps to let you know everything is working alright. Then you can hang up. (To undo this feature dial *38)
Next, you want to let GV know that these calls that are being forwarded should go to voicemail. You can do this by going into your settings page in Google Voice on your computer, and clicking “Activate Google voicemail for this phone”
Another thing to note, is that there is a big difference between CONDITIONAL and UNCONDITIONAL call forwarding. CONDITIONAL forwards a call after some (you guessed it) conditions are met - i.e. Busy, or no answer. You can read more about CONDITIONAL call forwarding here: http://bit.ly/9KvT2L
On the other hand, UNCONDITIONAL call forwarding takes all calls to your sprint number, and forwards them ALL to a different number without ever ringing your cell phone. This is not typically an option that anyone would want to use, and Sprint still charges 20 cents/minute for every call that uses this. Read more here: http://bit.ly/apyfAs
Accessing Google Voice from your Hero
Now on your CDMA Hero, you’re definitely going to want to download the Google Voice app from the Market. This will currently do two functions.
1. Allow you to see and play all of your voicemail.
2. Route your outgoing calls back through Google Voice, if you want to. (This makes more sense, I think, if you’re giving out your Google Voice number to people, because then your calls will be all forwarded through GV, both incoming and outgoing. I don’t give out my GV number, so I have mine set to only make outgoing calls through GV for international calls.)
Another option is to call Google Voice from your cell phone, just like the old days with Sprint Voicemail. Be sure to go Settings > Call Settings > Voicemail and then type in your GV number. Then when you hold 1 from the dial pad, you’ll call GV and be able to access it that way too.
Yet another option is to just visit the Google Voice Mobile Page in the browser.
Notification Options
With a fresh setup of Google Voice Voicemail, you’ll probably quickly notice that you’ll bombarded with email and SMS notifications about a new message. You can turn these off, and if you’re using the Android app, you’ll probably want to. On the Google Voice site, visit Settings > Voicemail & SMS > Voicemail Notifications to turn these on or off.
I have one question about using GV. I have free mobile to mobile calling. When someone calls my GV number, which is then forwarded to my cell phone, is this still a mobile to mobile call, or will I be charged?
wjtrawick said:
I have one question about using GV. I have free mobile to mobile calling. When someone calls my GV number, which is then forwarded to my cell phone, is this still a mobile to mobile call, or will I be charged?
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I just did a reverse telephone lookup, and it lists my google voice number type as a landline. So, no, I don't believe it counts as a mobile number.
Edit: Just checked my Sprint bill. I've got Any Mobile, Anytime. It is charged as a land line.
(On a side note, we just switched to the free mobile to mobile a few months ago, damn I love it: "Your account used 9,346 minutes of Any Mobile, Anytime(sm) calling last month.")
According to GV surport forum. If somebody(cellphone) calls ur GV number and transfer to ur sprint number. It should be counted as Mobile to Mobile. However, if you called somebody else through ur GV number, it will be conted as you call a landline.
link is here.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=75630cc990ea5c98&hl=en
laufine said:
According to GV surport forum. If somebody(cellphone) calls ur GV number and transfer to ur sprint number. It should be counted as Mobile to Mobile. However, if you called somebody else through ur GV number, it will be conted as you call a landline.
link is here.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=75630cc990ea5c98&hl=en
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Yupp, thats how it is, I have the bills to prove it. Also, for the person calling you it counts as a landline call for them, so if they are on Sprint it is not using mobile2mobile.
If there was a way to convince google to have gvoice lines as mobile lines it would be set....to bad...
Interestingly, the Voice app for Android doesn't do push notifications of new VMs. I get my email notifications long before the Voice app picks the VMs up. (I think it's set to check every 5 minutes?)
Any ideas on that one?
Is_907 said:
Interestingly, the Voice app for Android doesn't do push notifications of new VMs. I get my email notifications long before the Voice app picks the VMs up. (I think it's set to check every 5 minutes?)
Any ideas on that one?
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I go to settings > refresh and notification > refresh inbox,, and there are options there for refresh rate. 5 minutes is the lowest setting. I heard somewhere that there is a 3rd party app that checks more frequently, but I haven't tried it. I wouldn't want to drain my battery with an interval shorter than 5 minutes. Maybe you'd be better off making a gmail label to sort the notifications if the delay is a problem.
I've just been setting GV to send me SMS notifications, and then when I have a VM, I just hit refresh, and look at it. I don't want it constantly refreshing because I hardly get VM's.
Is_907 said:
Interestingly, the Voice app for Android doesn't do push notifications of new VMs. I get my email notifications long before the Voice app picks the VMs up. (I think it's set to check every 5 minutes?)
Any ideas on that one?
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That's the one thing that keeps me from becoming a heavy Google Voice user. I read on the Google support forums that they're working on push notifications but they said it was difficult and didn't have an ETA.
I don't know how it would be more difficult than Gmail.
Hey, thanks a lot for this guide! I've had "setting up google voicemail" on my to-do list for a while now, and your easy to understand guide motivated me to get it set up. Thanks a lot!
Just wanted to add a little something (feel free to put it in your guide if you want, to avoid questions in the forum later) for people who are on Cricket Wireless...
If you try to set this up for Cricket, the code you dial to activate Google Voicemail is slightly different.
For Cricket, dial *74xxxxxxx.
If you get an error after dialing it, something like "Cricket does not currently offer this service", then the problem isn't that Cricket doesn't offer it, but that your account does not have Call Forwarding enabled.
So, if you use Cricket and you get an error after dialing the code, go to your My Account on the Cricket Website and double check/add the Call Forwarding feature to your account. Once you do this, the code will work and GVoicemail can be activated.
Thanks again!
raynda said:
Hey, thanks a lot for this guide! I've had "setting up google voicemail" on my to-do list for a while now, and your easy to understand guide motivated me to get it set up. Thanks a lot!
Just wanted to add a little something (feel free to put it in your guide if you want, to avoid questions in the forum later) for people who are on Cricket Wireless...
If you try to set this up for Cricket, the code you dial to activate Google Voicemail is slightly different.
For Cricket, dial *74xxxxxxx.
If you get an error after dialing it, something like "Cricket does not currently offer this service", then the problem isn't that Cricket doesn't offer it, but that your account does not have Call Forwarding enabled.
So, if you use Cricket and you get an error after dialing the code, go to your My Account on the Cricket Website and double check/add the Call Forwarding feature to your account. Once you do this, the code will work and GVoicemail can be activated.
Thanks again!
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Excellent, and thanks; I'm glad this is being helpful to some people. I will definitely add that to at least the PDF guide today after I finish some school work. I look at this guide as a work in progress, and I'd like to eventually make it a fairly comprehensive users-guide to GV.
My one comment is:
*28 on Sprint forwards BOTH busy line, and no answer. From reading the cricket site, it seems that you'd both need to do *73 and *74 codes, so that when you're busy, it also sends calls to GV. On sprint you can do this too, as it would be the same as doing *28. Actually when I first activated mine, I had to do it that way because the exchange I was using was having some problems with the *28. Basically *28 is just a shortcut (on sprint, not cricket) for forwarding both.
So I'll add this explanation to the guide too. (along with undo codes) I totally forgot I had that problem. But I'm pretty sure you want to also do *73.
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To the people with billing comments:
So basicially everyone is saying:
1) All GV calls out are charged as calls to a land line. (which I have experienced too)
2) All GV incoming calls are charged as if you were receiving the call directly. (i.e. [Mobile call -> GV -> your phone] is charged as mobile... OR ... [landline call -> GV -> your phone] is charged as landline]
Am I right here? If so, I'll add this in today, too.
what am i missing?
* I have google voice setup correctly
* I have the application from the market installed
* I am receiving notifications in the form of text, and through the notification bar in android.
What I cannot figure out is how to opened the darn program when i want to get back into google voice to look at the messages in the inbox. i can get in when a message icon is in the tray (i just click on it and google voice comes up), but later on when i think "what was that message again?" and I go to go back to the program I cannot find a way to get in.
* There is no program in the "all programs" page (accessed by the arrow)
* There is no widget (other than the one to change how i want google voice to make calls for me)
What am I missing? I cannot figure out how to get into the program.
I could go to the mobile site, but that just seems silly when i know that the program is on my phone. I just can't find an icon to access it.
Please tell me I'm blind, and missing something obvious.
-AndyS-
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* I have google voice setup correctly
* I have the application from the market installed
* I am receiving notifications in the form of text, and through the notification bar in android.
What I cannot figure out is how to opened the darn program when i want to get back into google voice to look at the messages in the inbox. i can get in when a message icon is in the tray (i just click on it and google voice comes up), but later on when i think "what was that message again?" and I go to go back to the program I cannot find a way to get in.
* There is no program in the "all programs" page (accessed by the arrow)
* There is no widget (other than the one to change how i want google voice to make calls for me)
What am I missing? I cannot figure out how to get into the program.
I could go to the mobile site, but that just seems silly when i know that the program is on my phone. I just can't find an icon to access it.
Please tell me I'm blind, and missing something obvious.
-AndyS-
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I can only guess that you're looking for an icon that says "Google Voice" when actually the icon just says "Voice"
yikes!
@thematrixkid17 - see, I asked for something obvious and you gave it to me
I'm really pretty embarrassed considering the time that I was trying to figure this out, and that it was in front of me the whole time.
Thanks for the quick reply.
-AndyS-
laufine said:
According to GV surport forum. If somebody(cellphone) calls ur GV number and transfer to ur sprint number. It should be counted as Mobile to Mobile. However, if you called somebody else through ur GV number, it will be conted as you call a landline.
link is here.
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Sprint has a feature called "Sprint to Home" for $5 /month. If you add that to your plan ALL calls going to and from google voice are free. I use my phone ALL the time and only manage to rack up a 20-30 minutes a month .
realmrealm said:
@thematrixkid17 - see, I asked for something obvious and you gave it to me
I'm really pretty embarrassed considering the time that I was trying to figure this out, and that it was in front of me the whole time.
Thanks for the quick reply.
-AndyS-
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No problem. I knew that was probably your problem, because I had to do a double-take the first time I installed it too. Voice sounds really generic and has a pretty generic looking icon, so its not hard to overlook. I should add a picture of the icon to my guide
biggoan said:
Sprint has a feature called "Sprint to Home" for $5 /month. If you add that to your plan ALL calls going to and from google voice are free. I use my phone ALL the time and only manage to rack up a 20-30 minutes a month .
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I've heard about that. So you use google voice to dial to everybody? Cause I have 300 mins/month(Family plan,1500mins, 5ppl), if next month I use more than 300 mins, I'll call sprint to add this service.
anyone happen to happen an invite
[email protected]
so could i use this as my primary voicemail with my sprint number or would i have use the gv one? which i would see no point in if you don't use the gv number? thanks to whoever can clear this up for me
ko0pa11 said:
anyone happen to happen an invite
[email protected]
so could i use this as my primary voicemail with my sprint number or would i have use the gv one? which i would see no point in if you don't use the gv number? thanks to whoever can clear this up for me
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Yes, you can use it as primary voicemail, while still using your Sprint number. That's how I primarily use mine, since I'm on a 1500 minute 5 line family plan with free mobile to mobile any network, and we barely use 200 anytime minutes COMBINED. So it doesn't make sense for me to use GV for calls, when everyone already has my Sprint number. just follow the section in the guide "google voice as voicemail" or the setup instructions on GV.
What is nice about GV for voicemail is that you get visual voicemail via the GV android app, access to voicemail on your pc, its easy to archive messages, custom greetings for different groups of callers, and a bunch of other stuff. Voicemail transcription isn't great yet, but makes it nice to get an idea of what callers are saying if you can't listen (class, meeting, etc)
Invites are pretty sparse. I only ever got three, which I've used for my close friends, or i'd hand them out.
Again, i'll be updating the guide semi-daily based on questions in this thread
laufine said:
I've heard about that. So you use google voice to dial to everybody? Cause I have 300 mins/month(Family plan,1500mins, 5ppl), if next month I use more than 300 mins, I'll call sprint to add this service.
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A lot of the family plans now have the free mobile to mobile any network, so if you mainly make mobile calls, you might take a look at that as an option too. (sorry if I keep bringing this up, but it did really do a killing on my plan; my sister used almost 9000 free minutes last month because of this)
I recently started trying to complete a phone call recorder for the Nexus One running FroYo, but I've been having trouble getting the audio source to work correctly.
Using MediaRecorder.setAudioSource with MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_CALL results in a 0 kb file.
MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_DOWNLINK and MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_UPLINK both only record from the MIC and are therefore no different than MediaRecorder.AudioSource.MIC
Does anyone have any experience working with this part of the API, trying to do something similar? My next step would be to re-work using AudioRecord, but from what I've been reading online no one has had any success with that either.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
-teleknEsis
Googlevoice can do this. I believe you hit the number 4 during a call to start recording and 4 again to stop.
teleknEsis said:
I recently started trying to complete a phone call recorder for the Nexus One running FroYo, but I've been having trouble getting the audio source to work correctly.
Using MediaRecorder.setAudioSource with MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_CALL results in a 0 kb file.
MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_DOWNLINK and MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_UPLINK both only record from the MIC and are therefore no different than MediaRecorder.AudioSource.MIC
Does anyone have any experience working with this part of the API, trying to do something similar? My next step would be to re-work using AudioRecord, but from what I've been reading online no one has had any success with that either.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
-teleknEsis
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Isn't this illegal?
Geo411m said:
Googlevoice can do this. I believe you hit the number 4 during a call to start recording and 4 again to stop.
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Well damn, you got me there. Indeed that does work, although it requires someone to call you through your google voice #. I think there's still enough demand out there for a native call recorder that this is still worth investigating a fix.
But thanks for the info!!!!
prettyboy85712 said:
Isn't this illegal?
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No, actually in my state (Texas) it is not. As long as "1 of the parties is aware it is being recorded" (uhhh myself) it is legal.
The last time this was discussed Dianne Hackborn said that the G1 did not have the hardware for this to happen.
The problem was that the baseband processor did all the work and the raw audio stream was never exposed to Android (yep, including if you use a bluetooth headset, all done by the baseband processor) she said the problem was that qualcomm et al tended to lock up the functionality making such things really hard to do without their co-operation at driver writing time.
I'd guess this still holds for the N1.
Google voice however is just fancy VOIP so that is all done within the kernel hence the audio is easy to get at.
Here's a bit of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06770.html
Geo411m said:
Googlevoice can do this. I believe you hit the number 4 during a call to start recording and 4 again to stop.
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lmao but it makes everything akward when the voice says its recording. i believe it only works for incoming calls as well
prettyboy85712 said:
Isn't this illegal?
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this is an international site....just because its illegal where you are doesnt mean it is everywhere.
teleknEsis said:
No, actually in my state (Texas) it is not. As long as "1 of the parties is aware it is being recorded" (uhhh myself) it is legal.
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finally i have a right to do something in texas besides own a gun
man, i really wish there was an app for this (besides google voice) =/
I have been trying to find an app that takes this one step further, and can be used as a voicemail service.
Here in Australia we have to pay for the call diversion to carrier provided voicemail, then pay to retrieve the message.
If the phone answered the call and recorded the message it would eliminate the need for carrier voicemail.
Recording calls will be great if you can make it work, but reading other posts it seems it may not be possible.
flybyme said:
lmao but it makes everything akward when the voice says its recording. i believe it only works for incoming calls as well
this is an international site....just because its illegal where you are doesnt mean it is everywhere.
finally i have a right to do something in texas besides own a gun
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Points well made, remember though an app to be issued on this site, might be unlawful since the servers are located in the USA.
As too anyone interested in the state laws for recording a conversation per state:
http://www.rcfp.org/taping/quick.html
Remember one thing also, the reason Google removed all the recording apps off the market is because they didn't want to be responsible for the actions.
Google voice records a conversation after it notifies the caller on the other end of the call.
Just an fyi too you all.
Mikey1022 said:
Remember one thing also, the reason Google removed all the recording apps off the market is because they didn't want to be responsible for the actions.
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Wow I didn't realize they pulled them off the market lol
I thought that was because I couldnt see all the protected apps
SilentMobius said:
The last time this was discussed Dianne Hackborn said that the G1 did not have the hardware for this to happen.
The problem was that the baseband processor did all the work and the raw audio stream was never exposed to Android (yep, including if you use a bluetooth headset, all done by the baseband processor) she said the problem was that qualcomm et al tended to lock up the functionality making such things really hard to do without their co-operation at driver writing time.
I'd guess this still holds for the N1.
Google voice however is just fancy VOIP so that is all done within the kernel hence the audio is easy to get at.
Here's a bit of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06770.html
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Very interesting, and that would certainly explain the limitations of the API on the Nexus One. I really wish there was some way around this.
Mikey1022 said:
Remember one thing also, the reason Google removed all the recording apps off the market is because they didn't want to be responsible for the actions.
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Could you provide a link to back that assertion up? as I said I don't believe there have been any actual call-recording apps on the market, due to technical limitations, just normal recording apps that could be used to (poorly) record a call. And I don't believe any of those have been pulled.
Personally IMHO the notion that you can't record something you hear is nonsense. Thankfully I don't live in a country where this is so.
If you have a SIP account (or VOIP), you can download the app 3cxPhone from Android Market and in the Settings there is an option to record all calls.
I have tested it and it works perfectly. Both parties are recorded loud and clear unlike most of the old call recorders on the Market where you could barely hear the other party. I think it has something to do with SIP apps, like Sipdroid and 3cxPhone, calls function as Media files rather than phone calls on Android, allowing the recording of both sides of the call equally.
Anyway, the recorded call auto saves as a .wav file on your sd card under /3cxPhone/recordings.
Use your Google Voice number as a SIP account. Substitute 3cxPhone for Sipdroid in the tutorial... http://androidforums.com/android-lo...-your-android-phone-free-us-canada-calls.html
There's also trick you can do to record all in and out calls with 2 Google Voice accounts, one of the GV callback apps in Market, a MagicJack, and your regular phone calling plan (not Sipdroid or 3cxPhone).
Long tutorial short...
-you set up your MagicJack number as a forwarding number on GV line 1.
-Then, after its registered, go into the MJ login page and auto-forward all calls to your GV line 2 number. You can put your MJ in a drawer and never plug it in again after that.
-in the Android GV callback app, login with GV line 1. In the Settings, change the "This Phone's number" to the MagicJack number. Make sure your GV line 1 does not forward to your cell phone. Check desktop GV Settings to be sure.
-in GV line 2's Desktop version, make a new Contact with GV line 1's number. Name it whatever you want. In the Settings for that Contact, make all calls ring your Mobile number. Turn off all Call Screening or Call Presentation for that Contact, meaning calls just go through without options to reject or send to VM.
-Finally, to make calls, in the GV callback Android app, enter a number or choose a contact to call. It will call you back on your MJ number, which happens to forward to your GV Line 2 number....which is getting an incoming call(calling your cell), which means you can just push the number 4 as soon as you pick up the callback to start recording.
Your outgoing Caller ID will be GV Line 1 but your recordings will show up in GV Line 2.
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If you have a SIP account (or VOIP), you can download the app 3cxPhone from Android Market and in the Settings there is an option to record all calls.
I have tested it and it works perfectly. Both parties are recorded loud and clear unlike most of the old call recorders on the Market where you could barely hear the other party. I think it has something to do with SIP apps, like Sipdroid and 3cxPhone, calls function as Media files rather than phone calls on Android, allowing the recording of both sides of the call equally.
Anyway, the recorded call auto saves as a .wav file on your sd card under /3cxPhone/recordings.
Use your Google Voice number as a SIP account. Substitute 3cxPhone for Sipdroid in the tutorial... http://androidforums.com/android-lo...-your-android-phone-free-us-canada-calls.html
There's also trick you can do to record all in and out calls with 2 Google Voice accounts, one of the GV callback apps in Market, a MagicJack, and your regular phone calling plan (not Sipdroid or 3cxPhone).
Long tutorial short...
-you set up your MagicJack number as a forwarding number on GV line 1.
-Then, after its registered, go into the MJ login page and auto-forward all calls to your GV line 2 number. You can put your MJ in a drawer and never plug it in again after that.
-in the Android GV callback app, login with GV line 1. In the Settings, change the "This Phone's number" to the MagicJack number. Make sure your GV line 1 does not forward to your cell phone. Check desktop GV Settings to be sure.
-in GV line 2's Desktop version, make a new Contact with GV line 1's number. Name it whatever you want. In the Settings for that Contact, make all calls ring your Mobile number. Turn off all Call Screening or Call Presentation for that Contact, meaning calls just go through without options to reject or send to VM.
-Finally, to make calls, in the GV callback Android app, enter a number or choose a contact to call. It will call you back on your MJ number, which happens to forward to your GV Line 2 number....which is getting an incoming call(calling your cell), which means you can just push the number 4 as soon as you pick up the callback to start recording.
Your outgoing Caller ID will be GV Line 1 but your recordings will show up in GV Line 2.
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While i do appreciate these "workarounds", that was not the point of my thread. From what I can tell, there is a large demand out there for a native application that doesn't require using a VOIP service such as Google Voice or any wonky "setups", and records calls directly to the device. None of the apps I have found so far will record both the incoming and outgoing voice stream, and from my testing with the API and what I've read online, it doesn't seem possible to do with the Nexus One.
I'm more or less just looking for input from people who are familiar with this API and have attempted to do something similar. Thanks anyway....
Using total recall with froyo, works fine.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-killermobile-totalrecall-trial-xtDm.aspx
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Using total recall with froyo, works fine.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-killermobile-totalrecall-trial-xtDm.aspx
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I beg to differ. All the files saved are ending up as 0 kb files and of course won't play. Exact same problem I had during testing of my application. My guess is he's using the VOICE_CALL audio source which was leading to that same problem for me.
If it really does work for you, what location do you have set to save the calls and what format are you saving as?
teleknEsis said:
I beg to differ. All the files saved are ending up as 0 kb files and of course won't play. Exact same problem I had during testing of my application. My guess is he's using the VOICE_CALL audio source which was leading to that same problem for me.
If it really does work for you, what location do you have set to save the calls and what format are you saving as?
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Mine is default to /mnt/sdcard, I'm running [ROM] Kang-o-rama 0.9 Final SP2 (FRF85) w/apps2ext.
Setup to record only incoming call. Hope this helps.
avelec said:
Using total recall with froyo, works fine.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-killermobile-totalrecall-trial-xtDm.aspx
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Total recall uses microphone too, so did you read the first post ?
WOT this is not any kind of production/everyday app. Lets pursue other options or future releases of this.....
Switching yesterday to android was a shock when I found out there was no visual voicemail for android on AT&T. Dialing in for voicemail seems archaic now. But google voice can easily take over your AT&T voicemail and much much more. You don't even have to use your google voice phone number to use the voicemail feature.
Check out HulloMail as well. HulloMail is available for Android, iPhone and Blackberry in the US and UK. The app is free and offers everything you want from VVM and more.
lebe0024 said:
Switching yesterday to android was a shock when I found out there was no visual voicemail for android on AT&T. Dialing in for voicemail seems archaic now. But google voice can easily take over your AT&T voicemail and much much more. You don't even have to use your google voice phone number to use the voicemail feature.
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True, I didnt even think about that. I dont even know how to dial in for voicemail on AT&T. The entire time on AT&T I had an iphone that did all that stuff automatically.
Google voicemail transcribes which is even more awesome
Google Voice is great if you don't use Google Apps, if you use a Google Apps account it won't work with it, which is really a pain. I don't want to maintain two separate Google accounts
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Check out HulloMail as well. HulloMail is available for Android, iPhone and Blackberry in the US and UK. The app is free and offers everything you want from VVM and more.
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Mixed reviews on that app...
How do you set up google voice to be your voicemail application, even if someone calls your regular phone number, not your google voice number?
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If you're using a Google number, you can still set up Google voicemail with any mobile forwarding phone.
To do this, click Settings at the top right of the page. On the Phones tab, click the Add Google voicemail to this phone link to get started. The mobile carrier for your forwarding phone will need to be one of our current supported carriers.
http://www.google.com/support/voice/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164652
I found youmail (sorry due to the rule about new account I can't post the link, but I'm sure you will be able to find it) witch work perfectly with Android. It's free and has a lot of great options
personally my last smartphone was a blackberry 8100 and then 8110 without internet so i think im going to be fine
Has anyone successfully downloaded the Google Voice App? I have tried several times and continue to get a 'download successful' message.
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InnerGeek said:
Has anyone successfully downloaded the Google Voice App? I have tried several times and continue to get a 'download successful' message.
Thanks,
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No problem here, works perfectly, works great.
I used appbrain to download it, maybe you can try there?
So during the wizard to set up google voice I choose GV for my voicemail, and all it does is says no changes made and kicks me back to the GV wizard. I am unable to get this to work.
anyone have some ideas?
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So during the wizard to set up google voice I choose GV for my voicemail, and all it does is says no changes made and kicks me back to the GV wizard. I am unable to get this to work.
anyone have some ideas?
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Did this earlier in the week. Here's what I did.
Install Google voice as you normally would but don't do any of the app's set up for voicemail use..it wont work. Go to settings>call settings>voice calls>call forwarding.
Leave the first option...think its Always Forward...as disabled but the final three options where the calls get forwarded to your AT&T voicemail...edit those so the number is your GV number. That should take care of it.
Be sure to write down your AT&T voicemail number just in case you want to change it back.
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This worked. Am I charged minutes for calls getting forwarded to this number?'
Additionally, when I make google voice calls, can I add my GV number to alist for free calls?
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This worked. Am I charged minutes for calls getting forwarded to this number?'
Additionally, when I make google voice calls, can I add my GV number to alist for free calls?
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I don't believe you get charged per minute for call forwarding.
As far as the A List goes...I have no idea.
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Actually, you do use your minutes when you forward a call to your google voice voicemail. I know this from looking at my bill. I don't know about the a-list feature though, I've never used it.
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Actually, you do use your minutes when you forward a call to your google voice voicemail. I know this from looking at my bill. I don't know about the a-list feature though, I've never used it.
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Really? Wow. That's unnecessary. Oh well. Not like I don't answer my phone anyway so oh well.
I wonder if adding the google voice number to the a-list will allow free call forwarding....
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A-List essentially is a list of numbers that you have unlimited calls to and from. When I was on my iphone you initiated GV calls by getting a call sent to you with your caller ID, so I would add that number to my a-list and voila, free calls.
not sure how it works with the app though.
Edit: looks like every time you dial out of GV it uses a different 10 digit number so you cant abuse a-list...shameful! Wonder i theres a way to force it to use a specific number
Good news you can roll back your version of GV and have it use the same number everytime when you try to connect a call.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/22/goo...eedier-dialing-eliminates-free-calling-trick/
Hey everyone, I've had an OG Droid since Jan 1. 2010, and just upgraded to the Thunderbolt, I love it! Anyways, my name's Wes, and I need to build up a few posts before I can write in the development threads. So here's my tidbit of advice, if you happen to be on a family plan or have limited available minutes, you can combine GV+Sipdroid+GVDialer to make free calls over wifi AND 3g/4g. This is covered on the internet all over the place, but I had to research a ton before getting it to work on my droid because I found that many guides out there were from back in the day when google hadn't made things so easy to set up. Now that a lot of us have 4g, call quality and connection will be very consistent. How it works (confusing i know!): free VoIP #'s are available but only allow free incoming calls, so google makes them all in coming. GV dialer uses the internet instead of minutes to tell google voice to dial your desired call out #, then google voice sends the call to you as an incoming call. Google then lets you reroute that incoming call to your random DID # from ipcomms.net, and BOOM, a free "outgoing" incoming call. So in a quick nutshell, here's what you do.
Get a google voice #, download google voice app to your phone
Download GV Dialer from the market (paid app, maybe 2 bucks or something i forget)
Download Sipdroid from the market (not sipdroid + Showmee)
Then visit ipcomms.net and get the "free DID" by registering. Once you get the email with your free did, open the document with your info and jot down your username and password. (i think they're both 10 digits, you can't change this password either)
Open sipdroid, and hit Menu>Settings,SIPAccount#1, then for username and password enter what you found in the step above. For "Server or Proxy" enter "sipconnect.ipcomms.net"
Scroll down and you can adjust whether you want it to connect over 3g(4g works also) and/or WIFI, Edge
if it's working, you'll see a green light in your notifications bar, meaning your DID # is ready to receive free calls, but no one knows that #, so...
IMPORTANT: navigate to google.com/voice on your computer, login with your credentials, then go to to settings (top right corner) > Phones tab, then click "add another phone" Enter you're 10 digit ipcomms #, then click call to verify(make sure green light is on). You will get a call on the sipdroid app, slide to answer, then enter the code google gave you in your web browser on your computer to activate (if no keypad is showing, hit menu button and you can get to it during the call)
Once this is done and your phone is added, make sure calls to your voice account are set to forward calls to you ipcomms number.
Finally, open Gv dialer, login, go to its settings, and click "default phone to ring," after a moment you'll be given the option to select your ipcomms #, click that. YOU'RE DONE!
To make a call with VoIP, open gizmo(make sure you've got green light), then on your phone open GV dialer, dial the number you want, click "connect with google voice", wait for the internet to tell google to call the number and call your ipcomms # back, and voila, you get an incoming call, answer it, and you'll hear the call connecting and starting to ring.
I wrote this in about 10 minutes so if you have any questions of if anything sounds wrong or I made typos lemme know, now i'm going back to this VCU Kansas game for a bit. Hopefully someone out there finds this useful.
You can do something like this with Fring as well, right ?
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You can do something like this with Fring as well, right ?
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Yes.
Under Sipdroid's description in market: "Being open source, Sipdroid has often been cloned appearing under names such as Guava, aDIP, Fritz!App,..."
You can actually do it without Sipdroid on phones with Gingerbread (its built into the settings you just enter your ipcomms info) but we don't have it yet, and the gingerbread version has very few adjustable settings.
there are also alternatives to GV dialer as well as sites that offer free DID numbers for inbound calls, but this setup has worked fine for me.
I'll give it a try, thanks!
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Yup been using it to also send and receive free text. I use ipkall tho
Free us calls, not worldwide of course
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Any other sip providers working? Using Ekiga and ipkall for Gv calling,doesn't work so well on CSipSimple...... Would like to transition to another service easily as possible,and ipcomms is a bit confusing.
An easier method is to just download GV and GVoice callback. http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-voice-callback-free/com.xinlu.gvdial
I don't have sipdroid on my phone, and I can "dialout" using this with my google voice number. It shows up on the other phone as my GV # and I checked my bill for the calls (I used it for a whole day one time to see what would happen and didn't have calls on my bill for that day) and they weren't there. I tried to do the sip droid method one time, and I had a hard time getting it setup. So I just gave up. But this solution seems to work like a charm for me.
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An easier method is to just download GV and GVoice callback. http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-voice-callback-free/com.xinlu.gvdial
I don't have sipdroid on my phone, and I can "dialout" using this with my google voice number. It shows up on the other phone as my GV # and I checked my bill for the calls (I used it for a whole day one time to see what would happen and didn't have calls on my bill for that day) and they weren't there. I tried to do the sip droid method one time, and I had a hard time getting it setup. So I just gave up. But this solution seems to work like a charm for me.
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+1 but this only works if you have F&F and have a number to burn to put in there. Don't use it much but when calling my bud in canada or maybe a conference call i use it and it works just swell....on an incredible though, I"m still a wannabe
I got a free number from goog. Sorry, I'm bad with acronyms, what does F&F stand for?
Sipdroid thing was annoying when I tried it. I really prefer gv callback. I have it set up to ask me every time. Its pretty sweet.
so how exactly do you do this without sipdroid? I've got gv callback and its like the same as gv dialer asks which number i want to forward to, you're saying you can forward to google voice somehow? gv callback has option to start sipdroid before callback, so i would assume i still need something to handle the call received? Do I use google talk as callback number?
Do you have a google voice number? If not, go get one. It's free. Use you're regular gmail account to set it up. Then download goog voice also. There will be an option to use GV as the call back number. (also under the online GV settings you have to link you're mobile to the GV #). last, then you just set it to ask you every time to call you back, then when you go to call someone it will give you the option to use GV or not. If still need help I'll pm you my phone.
i have a google voice number, and the google voice app already. what do you mean forward to your GV number? Under google voice app there are no forwarding settings.
you mean you forward to your mobile number on google voice online settings, as in your verizon number? And it doesn't charge you any minutes? I'm pretty sure it still counts as using your minutes, you checked exactly when you called and compared it to the dates and times on your bill?
Gv callback requires friends and family to be of any benefit. Sipdroid allows you to make calls over your data connection, uses no minutes. It lags heavily though, not recommended if you have friends and family at your disposal.
edit, see my post to shaddix
I'm sorry, I've been mistaken. Somehow the actual GV app gives me the option to make voice calls. That is what i have been using. GV I downloaded but never set up. Not sure how I ended up with such a confusion. It used to just give the option to make international calls, but now you can set it up to ask everytime. I'm not yet rooted or I would take some screen shots.
I'm sorry but if you use f&f to begin with then y going thru all the hassle since f&f doesn't bill used minutes?
Sipdroid is better when you're on lte. If you are on conference calls a lot, sipdroid does help saving those minutes
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I'm sorry but if you use f&f to begin with then y going thru all the hassle since f&f doesn't bill used minutes?
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You can just use 1 f&f slot for all your calls
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You can just use 1 f&f slot for all your calls
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Ah, thank you.
Do you get free texting using only GV? I know $10/month is not a whole lot but for those that have only voice (no text plan), it will come in handy.
Hello Everyone,
Since everyone is so hyped about the new Voice integration with hangouts and more specifically, we finally have the ability to make outgoing call without using 3rd party programs, still no MMS with the google voice number but the outgoing calling alone is awesome.
Anyway, since this is XDA and the new functionality gives XDA's plenty of money saving ideas I'm certain of that, here goes.
HANGOUTS & GOOGLE VOICE = 1.6 MB PER HOUR OF CALLING
DISCLAIMER
That is an amazingly low amount of data! I ran this test making a 3 minutes phone using my nexus 5 on LTE. It's by far not a scientific test but a very good estimate of how much data you can save making calls with GOOGLE VOICE THRU HANGOUTS. I'm sure you 30$ a month 5GB t-mobile people can put this to good use, I know I will! (Goodbye stupid deadzones in Brooklyn College ) Finally us Nexus 5 owners have a more legitimate way of making WiFi calls since T-mobile ditched us on that one. I'm plenty excited about all of this! What do you guys think? How will you be using the new outgoing calls feature?
LASTLY
The updated hangouts apk is below in case you didn't get the update yet like me. enjoy!
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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Same, although my rom still has CM Voice+ and it's still handling the integration quite well. I currently use Groove Forwarder from the play store to switch my GV forwarding based on location. I'm very curious if it will still be functional once I'm integrated, as currently, I don't see any options in the new Hangouts app to determine what number rings. If it stays this way, I'll end up getting double rings (dialer & Hangouts) when someone calls my GV number.
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Same, although my rom still has CM Voice+ and it's still handling the integration quite well. I currently use Groove Forwarder from the play store to switch my GV forwarding based on location. I'm very curious if it will still be functional once I'm integrated, as currently, I don't see any options in the new Hangouts app to determine what number rings. If it stays this way, I'll end up getting double rings (dialer & Hangouts) when someone calls my GV number.
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I have the same double ring problem. I'd like to see an option to only accept/make Hangouts calls over wifi because I use Llama to disable the cell radio when on wifi at home (because the cell signal is very poor and it drains my battery very fast and also because I have a Ting "metered" plan and trying to keep usage as low as possible -- basically on cell only when away from home, wifi otherwise). I currently use the older version of GrooveIP, but was hoping to be able to move to Hangouts.
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I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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Me too, I keep thinking that maybe I did something wrong and I'm being left out, but Google's just rolling the server-side changes out slowly, I've read. Such anxiety
This actually works for every Android device that can use hangouts/google voice too. Right now I have it on my Galaxy Player, and it works great. I'm glad that Google finally integrated google voice, because it makes things a lot easier lol. I'm surprised that this isn't getting a lot of news.
We still need the GV app to send texts, right? Or am I missing something and it's possible to text using your GV number from the Hangouts app?
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We still need the GV app to send texts, right? Or am I missing something and it's possible to text using your GV number from the Hangouts app?
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I'm checking on it right now, but it seems that you don't need the GV app anymore. You should be able to text using your GV number in hangouts. I'm setting mine up right now.
Here's the topic that google created to set up GV with Hangouts. I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/6023920?hl=en&ref_topic=3187124
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I'm checking on it right now, but it seems that you don't need the GV app anymore. You should be able to text using your GV number in hangouts. I'm setting mine up right now.
Here's the topic that google created to set up GV with Hangouts. I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/6023920?hl=en&ref_topic=3187124
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Ah, thanks. They don't make it easy to find. Same deal with the Hangouts Dialer, jumping through many hoops to set it all up. I guess they don't want to piss off the carriers just yet.
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I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
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By disconnect do you mean sign or and then sign back in?
OK, more help needed: how do I switch the number and SMS is sent from when starting a new conversation? I like the "smart reply" option, but sometimes I want to send from the GV number, other times from my cell number (in particular for MMS).
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By disconnect do you mean sign or and then sign back in?
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By disconnect I mean reverting back to the original chat in gmail, then going back to hangouts.
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Ah, thanks. They don't make it easy to find. Same deal with the Hangouts Dialer, jumping through many hoops to set it all up. I guess they don't want to piss off the carriers just yet.
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Nope also to answer your Google voice question further when trying to access or send message you get this screen. However, I had to unchecked merge messages to even get it to send with hangouts lol.
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By disconnect I mean reverting back to the original chat in gmail, then going back to hangouts.
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That did the trick!
hangout issue
Hey has anyone had the issue where hangout calls connects, but you get can't hear anything. Basically only one end of the line gets sound for some reason. each time i had to hang up and try again.
I haven't on the 2 test calls I made. Any suspicions as to why its happening?
Whats your OS or ROM, Phone, Network, what was your coverage like. Wifi or mobile network.
The more info the better
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Not working for me, still using cell minutes when making calls
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Edit: I think I figured it out, if I use the phone dialer it asks if I want to use Google voice, it uses minutes, if I skip it and use the hangouts dialer no minutes. So do I need GV installed at all?
Don't need Voicemail on GV, I can use T-Mobile Visual Voicemail.
in order to receive wifi calls there is box to check in settings plus
in google voice settings [web page] I had to stop google from forwarding my google # to my phone [uncheck nexus 5]
this keeps google from forwarding the call twice and keeps the native dialer blocking the hangouts dialer
I'm on wifi 95% of the time so this should lower my $12 Ting bill to $9 on a normal month.
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in order to receive wifi calls there is box to check in settings plus
in google voice settings [web page] I had to stop google from forwarding my google # to my phone [uncheck nexus 5]
this keeps google from forwarding the call twice and keeps the native dialer blocking the hangouts dialer
I'm on wifi 95% of the time so this should lower my $12 Ting bill to $9 on a normal month.
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How is Ting. My friend recommended me to get it, but I don't know it I want that or Republic Wireless lo. Also did you figure out how to send SMS with Hangouts via Google Voice?
Theres actually a setting telling you to activate the sms thru hangouts.
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