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Trying to stay clear of Exchange, but need Push and Sync!

We are using Google for your Domain, and we using Google Calendar, Custom Group Start page, etc. We are all setup that way already and we are just really in love with our setup as it is simple, fast and no-hassles. We don't want to get an exchange server, it seems so complicated, costy and not as compatible (ical, rss, etc).
What we are missing is to be able to get all this data pushed and to sync with our WM5 PDAs.
Right now we are forwarding our emails to a paid exchange service, but we are missing on all the emails that we are sending from our PDAs that do not get sync-ed with gmail.
Also I have read a little bit, but is there a way to sync Gcal with the WM5? We are leaning towards migrating to exchange to be able to have everything sync-ed, but... Google for your Domain is just so great and simple to use (and free...) There has to be a way to push and sync gmail (and contacts), gcal with a WM5! Anyone?

Not sure about push, but check GooSync out.

Google Calendar Sync
5 March 2008 Google Calendar Sync allows you to sync events between Google Calendar and Microsoft Outlook Calendar.
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955
You can now access your Google Calendar account from your mobile phone! Just visit mobile.google.com/calendar/ with your phone's web browser and once you're logged in, you'll see your list of upcoming events with date and time information in an easy-to-browse format.
Cheers
Tom

I suggest kerio Mail Server as a substitute to exchange. It works great with iCal and all of Mac. It also works great with my Tilt.

kudroz said:
We are using Google for your Domain, and we using Google Calendar, Custom Group Start page, etc. We are all setup that way already and we are just really in love with our setup as it is simple, fast and no-hassles. We don't want to get an exchange server, it seems so complicated, costy and not as compatible (ical, rss, etc).
What we are missing is to be able to get all this data pushed and to sync with our WM5 PDAs.
Right now we are forwarding our emails to a paid exchange service, but we are missing on all the emails that we are sending from our PDAs that do not get sync-ed with gmail.
Also I have read a little bit, but is there a way to sync Gcal with the WM5? We are leaning towards migrating to exchange to be able to have everything sync-ed, but... Google for your Domain is just so great and simple to use (and free...) There has to be a way to push and sync gmail (and contacts), gcal with a WM5! Anyone?
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I am not certain whether Funambol will handle Google email, but you might want to check it out (http://www.funambol.com). You can get a free account with them that will handle syncing PIM data and push email, coming from any POP email account. I eventually turned off the push email, since having my data access online 24/7 was running the battery down too fast, but I still use their sync function to transfer contact and calendar information between my phone and Mozilla Thunderbird

I tried this a lot a while back, I spent ages avoiding exchange, I spent hours looking; what I eventually used was a combination of IMAP and Google Calendar. IMAP has the Idle extension which allows mail to be effectively "pushed" to your device, although WM doesn't natively support this I used an add on (I forget the name, it was something like vimail but if you google IMAP Idle WM you'll surely find it or something similar). However I found it hogged my battery, it would only last literally about half a day with this program installed, not sure if it's the program or just a necessary evil of how the IMAP behaviour works.
Alternative you could just sync every 15 mins. That works reasonably well.
That leaves your calendar and Toffa's GooSync program worked quite well for me, synching my google calendar, but it doesn't offer calendar push, and they want you to pay a yearly fee which I think is annoying.
With regards to the previous post I would not recommend Funambol, nor would I recommend ScheduleWorld or Plaxo all of which I found very disappointing and glitchy (I couldn't get Funambol to work at all, actually, and I tried very hard).
This leaves Tasks and Contacts and to the best of my knowledge there is no good way of synching these OTA, so you have to resort to the bane of every WM user's existence which is WMDC/Vista (or Activesync for PC). I heard something about goosync planning to support them, but I'm not sure exactly where your synched items go, you'd have to look.
Now although this is I think the best possible solution I must say I eventually gave up and paid the $10 or whatever for hosted Exchange, which is much more seamless.

Google Calendar/Gmail push

Hey there. Ive been looking for quite a while now, but even the search function in this huge board cant help me out.
I'd like to:
Have my Gmail pushed
Have my Gmail Contacts synced
Have my Google Calendar 2way synced
ive found several possibilities to sync either gmail OR calendar via Exchange, using www.nuevasync.com for Calendar and Contacts OR using mail2web.com for Gmail. Sadly nothing that supports both.
Now, since i cant use 2 Exchange servers with wm 6.1 (im using UdK's Diamond R8 on my Polaris) im kinda stuck.
Does anyone of you know a service that offers both Gmail push and Calendar/Contacts sync, or if its possible to have 2 Exchange servers sync simultaneously, how?
And, to make it worse, id prefer not to use any additional programs like SEVEN or oggsync.
thanks in advance
daschalki

bump :X
any help appreciated

Despite what people may say, it is possible to sync with two Exchange servers. The only way I've been able to do it successfully is to manually create the partnership reg keys in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Partnerships by copying and editing an existing partnership. Do this with ActiveSync closed.
I currently have one server set up to do mail, contacts, tasks and a second exchange server to do only calendaring. If you have multiple Exchange servers with the same services marked (i.e., mail checked for two), things start to get hairy. If you want to try to do calendaring with two servers, you'll need to change the value "NonLocalCrossPolination" in the ActiveSync key to 1, and no guarantees that you won't cause some sort of recursive loop of updates.
Partnerships are treated in LIFO order - Push sync notifications to the device are only recognized by the FIRST partnership listed in ActiveSync, which seems to be the LAST partnership added. This means that 99% of the time you'll want whichever server is set to do mail to be the last one you add. Whenever you receive a push notification that a sync is necessary, all partnerships will check for updates. This normally works just fine since you'll be receiving mail at least as often as you will be making calendar changes.

thanks for the help, ill try to get that workin.

I can confirm that this is working.

Have you seen this from Google?
http://lifehacker.com/5149741/google-sync-keeps-contacts-and-calendars-in-sync-on-your-mobile-phone
this might be what you are looking for

Yeah, Google just started their own sync service using Active Sync.
http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sync.html
Still doesn't sync your mail, but you can always use IMAP

Has anyone been able to use this to sync multiple calendars?

google sync

has anyone successfully got this to sync on fuze?? Thanks for your help.

I Timing was perfect, the truth was just the first synchronization with the phone for GPRS.
Contacts synchronized for a long time (196 contacts) for about 15 minutes

I Diddnt know googlesync had a version for PPC yet.. But i have had no issues at all with neuvasync.com for my contacts & calander from google & I just use Pocket Outlook for the email.

I set up for the management of Google
http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sync.html
Calendar syncs with Thunderbird, contacts, too, with the help of a plugin Google Contacts

I can get it to sync, more or less, with my Polaris. It will display an error, but as far as I can see my whole calender is synced.
I have seen quite many posts that get the same error and it seems it has something to do with Googles Exchange server. But don't ask me, I don't know how the stuff works

thanx for the help
I went to the link on google already and still couldn't get it to work. Anyone tried the service yet?

Google Sync works fine on my X1, just followed the instructions and it worked. Only issue I had was the format it brought some contacts accross as (e.g Surname, Forename not Forname Surname)

Android and Syncing...

My wife and I are swtiching to Android devices (EVO me, Hero or Moment for her), I wanted to setup the sync as follows for the calendar. I am not to worried about the email as she can just do POP for now.
We both use Outlook on our computers setup like this:
She is just connecting to POP mail
Mine is my company mail (via the DAMO LotusNotes Connect)
Both view shared google calendar in outlook
I don't have a clue how to setup the sync, what I would like is:
I would have to sync my work calendar via wire (HTC Sync) or LN Traveler for OTA (they already added me to the server)
I could sync the Google shared calendar OTA
She could sync the Google calendar OTA
The part I want to make sure of is I was trying this with my windows mobile phone and I could wire sync my work calendar and see google calendar in outlook. But as soon as I added to sync to the Google Calendar OTA via ActiveSync, it pushed all my work appointments up to the google calendar. I wanted to keep the google calendar just the family stuff (you know running the kids around)...
Thanks for any and all help, It was pretty easy when it was just me, adding her to the mix will make things better in the long run, just have to figure out how to do it!

I've got a Hero which can sync with Google and with my office calendar/email which runs on MS Exchange. The phone successfully keeps them entirely separate. I can change one or the other, sync OTA, and the each calendar continues to contain only the appointments it's meant to. I realise you aren't going to be using MS Exchange, but if Sense (HTC's customised version of Android) knows how to keep Google and Exchange calendars separate, it should be able to do the same for anything else. Furthermore, it knew how to have a separate 'Outlook' calendar when I tried syncing via USB and ActiveSync. I didn't experiment much with that as I stopped using it as soon as I got OTA syncing to work with the Exchange server, but it considering that it recognised it as a separate calendar in its list, it should still do what you want.
Another option for you may be to completely swap away from Outlook and use Thunderbird. That knows how to sync to Google calendars and address book, but I don't know if your DAMO LotusNotes Connect system will work with it. Both these features are done with plugins, so it's possible that there's also a plugin for your work's system. Thunderbird also handles IMAP messaging better than Outlook; at least, better than Outlook 2003 did. I mention IMAP because your wife will have to stop using POP if she wants to be able to read her emails both on her computer and on her phone - POP isn't designed to have multiple computers accessing the same email account. It wants to download emails off the server and delete the remote copy; you can make it just download them, but I don't think it would then know to mark them as read or unread.

Thanks, sounds like I will have to do some playing.. We are using Outlook 2010 and it is the best update for some time. I have my kids and mother-in-law on Thunderbird, just not us.
You can setup Pop to leave messages for X days unless deleted, this is how I have been running for my one pop account, it works fine but yes you get some dups, not a big deal.
I have thought for some time about making my linux server my mail server as well, heck, I think I could link that to whatever accounts I desire then have it do the push mail, that would be an interesting setup...
Again, thanks, sounds like we have some playing but it should work fine.

tschwenke said:
Thanks, sounds like I will have to do some playing.. We are using Outlook 2010 and it is the best update for some time. I have my kids and mother-in-law on Thunderbird, just not us.
You can setup Pop to leave messages for X days unless deleted, this is how I have been running for my one pop account, it works fine but yes you get some dups, not a big deal.
I have thought for some time about making my linux server my mail server as well, heck, I think I could link that to whatever accounts I desire then have it do the push mail, that would be an interesting setup...
Again, thanks, sounds like we have some playing but it should work fine.
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I have just pruchased a nexus one and getting it next week. I am wondering will it automatically sync my contacts and mail from outlook 2010 or do I need some sort of additional software on my win 7 PC to do this?
Thanks in advance...

[Q] Contact synchronizing

Hi! I'm currently an android user and am looking to possibly move to the Windows phone side. I am currently waiting on my Lumia 800 to be delivered, but have a few questions about contact syncing
I currently have my contacts on gmail and android syncs to it as expected. What I miss is the ability to have a local copy in my desktop outlook (non-exchange), so I usually download from gmail once a month and overwrite my outlook contacts (since gmail is almost always up-to-date because of my phone)
Reading about this on microsoft's site, it looks like I can sync up my outlook to my live account (using hotmail connector which I already use).
Question 1 - is this a one time sync (between live acct and desktop outlook)? Or does it sync back and forth if there are changes in either location? (I assume/expect that the WP7 will make sure that the phone and live acct will always be in sync regardless of where I make changes).
In other words, will my phone, live acct and outlook contacts be in perfect sync?
Question 2 - If I have my gmail account set up in WP7 people hub, will it show me duplicate contacts (that I will have to manually link)? Or will it be able to synchronize my contacts between gmail and live as well?
Thanks!

if i remember well from 9 months ago when i did this
answer 1: it is one time sync
answer 2: it will link them together but not sync them

Thanks! Do you know of a free & reliable way to make it sync regularly between Live and desktop outlook (non-exchange)?

i do not but your live account contacts will show in outlook anyway so you can directly use them

I have a question sortof related to this...
My girlfriend got a Radar 4G for Xmas and will be switching over from Android in the next couple of days, is there any tutorials or instructions on how to do that available?
Is there a way to manually sync her contacts between gmail and the phone? If not, is there a way to back them up somehow?
I'm not really up on exchange or any of MS's services and could use some pointers...