So I bought a Samsung Infuse off Craigslist. I love it, it's awesome. I use the Simple Mobile $60/m plan. I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant before the Infuse. I used to run CM7 but used Bionix 1.31 as my ROM on my Vibrant. So I'm familiar with the ends and outs of this technology.
The Situation: Samsung Infuse running latest "unofficial build" CM7, flawless performance. After doing much research as to APN settings on Google and XDA I found that the internet is wrong with the APN settings for HSPA+ on a HSPA+ capable phones. I called Simple Mobile yesterday and we did an OTA (she spoke I listened) configuration of the APN and it's full of IP addresses nao. She said that will allow me to access the "4G" network. The thing is, it says "E" for EDGE at the top for my signal....consistently.
The Problem: The EDGE never changes, also according to various speedtest's I can't EVER break .50kbs DL speed off of WiFi.
So I tried switching out various modems that we're available to me for the Infuse via the CWM flashable's. I've seen NO IMPROVEMENT on data speeds after each modem.
So what exactly is the issue: Am I doing something wrong via XDA material? Or am I just ****ed on HSPA+/4G speeds?
Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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bobthq said:
Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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I own a business; I know about selling. But according to my research, your a little or alot off; I just can't exactly prove it.
I know that AT&T offers 4Gish speeds (true LTE in like 2 cities in TX), and that T-Mobile offers 3.5+G-4Gish speeds.
I also understand the concept of up-selling, however that scenario does not apply with my current plan and situation.
Has it, or has it NOT been documented ANYWHERE that an HSPA+ capable phone on the $60/m Simple Mobile plan achieved true or realistic data DL speeds off WiFi?
I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I'm not using WiFi as a comparison, just as another option for higher DL speeds. Off WiFi I've seen snails crawl faster than my data can move.
I just want to know why I can't get anything better than **** with this great phone and supposedly "reasonably-good" network.
Vizone- said:
You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
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They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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bobthq said:
They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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The phone was NETWORK LOCKED when I bought it, so I guess I suppose I'm glad you we'rent with my when I bought it lol.
I'll take into mild consideration that a multitude of people may not be aware of alternate existing networks.
The T-Mobile phone I had before licked ****ing sac, my buddy has a Captivate that OVER-SHINED my Vibrant any day of the week - So No, I won't buy a phone from a company that's supposedly being bought out BY AT&T.
From previous quotes: It seems that we are implying that ONLY a T-MOBILE BRAND PHONE can access the 4Gish HSPA+ speeds that Simple Mobile network (that uses T-Mobile towers) and not an AT&T branded phone.
Yes, it's true....the above DOES in fact sound stupid when I put it on paper. AT&T and T-Mobile use the same towers and Simple Mobile/Metro PCS (some other un-explained networks) use the SAME towers.
So how is it, according to posters: That replacing AT&T phone with T-Mobile garbage will allow me to acquire the DL speeds that reference HSPA+/4G speeds. AND NOT, under any circumstances is it possible for an AT&T phone that uses the same towers to get the same outcome?
OK, the last part really does sound stupid, I feel like I'm arguing with a mockingbird. Anyone else have any further to offer?
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Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Actually I re-read this statement. AT&T don't use the same bands, something about T-Mobile uses 850 and AT&T uses 1700.
Would changing the band selection make a difference? How to if possible?
I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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bobthq said:
I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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Word, posted on Craigslist and I suppose I'll get an HTC Sensation. Thank-you for your recent clarification.
Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Will straight talk sim work on not "straight talk phones"?
Which cheapest phone of straight talk I have to buy to get their SIM-card?
I know they selling GSM and CDMA phones and don't want to buy wrong one.
Flat Out answer only the 2G or EDGE bands in the phone are compatible with ATT networks the other bands are different so if you want bettter speeds get att or use wi-fi because edge is all you will ever get no matter what you do to the APN
like on the previous post mentioned, i think most of the att phones doesn't have the radio that is capable of receiving the 3g/4g frequencies tmobile use. i could be wrong, but i think is a hardware problem rather than a setting you can change.
Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
Dani897 said:
Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
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Consumer Cellular is VERY "no-frills" - it's only for VERY light users.
There is no AT&T phone that I know of that supports the 1700 MHz band required for T-Mobile 3G.
The only phone I know of that has pentaband HSPA+ (works on both AT&T and T-Mobile) is the Galaxy Nexus.
When I programmed my HTC Evo 3D i saw various optinos for cdma/eg/4g in CDMA Workshop & QPST Service Programming, what I saw was diferent types of bands and freqz, you might wana check out a phone's specs of tmobile and then check if those specs (frqz & bands) match with the one set on your device...
For example
The Vocoder settings
band prefferences :
band class 0/1/2/3/4/5/ sys a/b/
GSM DSC 1800
GSM extended 900
Etc etc.... check with the device's password on it's profiles and realms (settings I can view on my evo using ##data# )
I can confirm that the issue is with the phones. I just ran a test using my simple mobile card on an AT&T Infuse vs Tmobile Vibrant 4G.
AT&T Infuse
Edge connection with 50kps max
Tmobile Vibrant 4G
3G connection with 240kps max
I will be going to staright talk at the end on this billing cycle.
Hey everyone,
Small annoyance however I, as many of you may also experience, have crap signal at work. I've found an app called 4G Switcher however I don't know if I should use this or if there is a better/more efficient way to go about this.
Do any of you guys have this problem and can recommend an app, or otherwise? I'm on 7.1.1 with root and TWRP.
(Also I am on AT&T - I think Verizon has way better service on my area, is there a way to "tap into" and use that signal? Pardon if that sounds dumb haha)
Not that I know of. I use an app called LTE switcher which toggles my data on/off and that helps sometimes. You can also try updating your profile and prl to see if that helps. But no, you cannot tap into Verizon from AT&T, they use different technology (GSM vs CDMA).
You can't update your PRL manually like in the 3G days, it's done automatically over LTE, also that's just for the roaming list. Verizon and AT&T both use LTE and the phone supports both AT&T and LTE networks, the reason you can't "tap into" it is because your carrier (AT&T) doesn't want to pay to allow you to roam on another network unless they specifically allow it because they don't have native coverage in that area.
As far as apps go, no app is going to improve your signal strength. The best it can do is refresh your connection, which is basically like toggling airplane mode.
I have an lg g4 h810 at&t version came from usa, currently using in Pakistan,i have a serious problem of data connection,it continuously changes from edge to 4g,i flashed new 4g bands still same problem..how can i fix this like removing edge and using only 4g,the preferred network option is not available and when i use only lte app by clicking the phone info it says this application doesn't support this device plz helps if there's any other way.
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I have an lg g4 h810 at&t version came from usa, currently using in Pakistan,i have a serious problem of data connection,it continuously changes from edge to 4g,i flashed new 4g bands still same problem..how can i fix this like removing edge and using only 4g,the preferred network option is not available and when i use only lte app by clicking the phone info it says this application doesn't support this device plz helps if there's any other way.
Thanks in advance...
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It's probably the network itself doing that instead of the phone doing it.
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It's probably the network itself doing that instead of the phone doing it.
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Well its not the network i am in a place where it is fully Lte selected,is there any single way to cut if edge and use lte?
Taimoor* said:
Well its not the network i am in a place where it is fully Lte selected,is there any single way to cut if edge and use lte?
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You didn't understand, network signals fluctuate, just because you're in an area with 4G LTE coverage does not mean anything, when signal strength drops, so does the signal type. If you remove Edge capability then when signal is low you won't receive anything at all until 4G strength returns.
I live in a 4G area and it's not uncommon to drop to 1x data, ON AN UNMODIFIED PHONE ON THE NETWORK IT WAS DESIGNED FOR AND SOLD BY.
So again....
It's probably your network and not your device.
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You didn't understand, network signals fluctuate, just because you're in an area with 4G LTE coverage does not mean anything, when signal strength drops, so does the signal type. If you remove Edge capability then when signal is low you won't receive anything at all until 4G strength returns.
I live in a 4G area and it's not uncommon to drop to 1x data, ON AN UNMODIFIED PHONE ON THE NETWORK IT WAS DESIGNED FOR AND SOLD BY.
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It's probably your network and not your device.
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I will still insist,on you helping me out to force 4g and remove edge.i want to use my own mind set.i request you plz.
Taimoor* said:
I will still insist,on you helping me out to force 4g and remove edge.i want to use my own mind set.i request you plz.
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You'll probably just end up putting Edge capability back on the device because if you don't have Edge capability then you will not have a connection to mobile data when signal strength is low. In other words, when signal is low and the network itself drops to Edge speeds, you won't have a mobile data connection, you'll only have cellular service for making calls and texting, your mobile data won't work until the network itself picks back up to 4G LTE speeds.
Removing Edge from your device does not stop the network itself from slowing down to Edge speeds. Altering your device does not control what the network does or how it functions. That is all controlled on their end, not yours. The network will STILL drop to lower speeds whether you like it or not.
You don't have a choice of choosing to stay on 4G connection at all times, you'll still lose 4G connection when the network slows down.
It comes down a choice. Do you want mobile connection at all times with the occasional drop to Edge speeds but still able to use the mobile network?
Or do you want to have 4G connection when it's available but no connection at all when it drops below 4G speed and unable to use mobile data or internet until the 4G speeds return?
I think you would get tired of not being able to use mobile data at all when the network is slow and you would be wanting Edge capability back so your device can stay connected at all times instead of sporadically connecting only when there is 4G speeds.
You can't FORCE the network to stay at 4G speeds all the time. You can't control the network, you can only control your device.
Removing Edge WILL NOT keep your device connected to 4G at all times.
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Droidriven said:
You'll probably just end up putting Edge capability back on the device because if you don't have Edge capability then you will not have a connection to mobile data when signal strength is low. In other words, when signal is low and the network itself drops to Edge speeds, you won't have a mobile data connection, you'll only have cellular service for making calls and texting, your mobile data won't work until the network itself picks back up to 4G LTE speeds.
Removing Edge from your device does not stop the network itself from slowing down to Edge speeds. Altering your device does not control what the network does or how it functions. That is all controlled on their end, not yours. The network will STILL drop to lower speeds whether you like it or not.
You don't have a choice of choosing to stay on 4G connection at all times, you'll still lose 4G connection when the network slows down.
It comes down a choice. Do you want mobile connection at all times with the occasional drop to Edge speeds but still able to use the mobile network?
Or do you want to have 4G connection when it's available but no connection at all when it drops below 4G speed and unable to use mobile data or internet until the 4G speeds return?
I think you would get tired of not being able to use mobile data at all when the network is slow and you would be wanting Edge capability back so your device can stay connected at all times instead of sporadically connecting only when there is 4G speeds.
You can't FORCE the network to stay at 4G speeds all the time. You can't control the network, you can only control your device.
Removing Edge WILL NOT keep your device connected to 4G at all times.
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I am trying my best not to piss you off but actually it changes in to edge when i try to open a game on phone like COC OR FIFA Mobile, that's why i was asking to use only 4g..it kinda irritates to not have something when you are paying for it..i would still insist you tell me how to do it
Taimoor* said:
I am trying my best not to piss you off but actually it changes in to edge when i try to open a game on phone like COC OR FIFA Mobile, that's why i was asking to use only 4g..it kinda irritates to not have something when you are paying for it..i would still insist you tell me how to do it
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You're wasting your time, it won't improve anything.
Good luck
Complain about it to your service provider, it's their fault.
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