Phone turned off today for the fist time, info provided - Captivate General

My phone turned off by itself today while it was in my pocket, here are some information. The phone is also not rooted, no launchers have been used, and is currently using TouchWiz.
Purchased from AT&T Premier website on August 27th 2010
Delivered to me September 1st 2010
Manufacturing Date - August 2nd 2010
Battery Manufacturing Date - Not checked
Apps installed before shutoff experience:
Dictionary.com
Fandango Movies
The Moron Test Lite
WordUp
Google Voice
Speedtest.net
Barcode Scanner
Ninja Kaka - Fruit Dojo
Drop Block DEMO
Hella Umbrella Beta
PapiJump
Jewels
Unblock Me FREE
Smooth Calendar
GPS Test
1 Day/Night before I experienced the shutoff, the following were installed:
- Used my own wallpaper jpeg instead of one from the Captivate's stock wallpaper folder
- Beautiful Widgets
- AppBrain App Market
- Fast Web Installer
- Angry Birds Lite Beta (APK FILE, USED ANDROID CENTRAL'S SIDELOADER MACHINE)
- Paper Toss
I've had my phone for exactly 1 week, and after reading all the horror stories of people experiencing the random shut offs, I thought I was lucky up until now. I love this phone a lot despite the obvious GPS issues. Does anyone have any idea on what may be causing this? Hardware or Software issue?
I would hate to exchange it for another with AT&T since I've become so attached to it.

My phone randomly shut down within the first couple of days I had it too. However, it doesn't happen anymore.
I'm still not exactly sure what caused it. Here is what I can remember having differently before and now:
- Used the Grass live wallpaper; now, I'm using a static wallpaper
- Had a corporate exchange account synced; now, only syncing a Google account
And of course, I've been charing the phone more ever since I got it, so maybe the battery needs to "learn" something so that it doesn't automatically shut down?

kevrocks said:
My phone randomly shut down within the first couple of days I had it too. However, it doesn't happen anymore.
I'm still not exactly sure what caused it. Here is what I can remember having differently before and now:
- Used the Grass live wallpaper; now, I'm using a static wallpaper
- Had a corporate exchange account synced; now, only syncing a Google account
And of course, I've been charing the phone more ever since I got it, so maybe the battery needs to "learn" something so that it doesn't automatically shut down?
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thanks kevrocks, how long have you had your captivate btw?

There are a few threads here, including mine with the "Let's compare apps" theory http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763956. No on has been able to figure it out. However, in my observation, I had my Use GPS Satellites turned off while I was away on vacation in Europe. In the 7 days I was away, my phone never turned off on me. That was last week. This week, it still hasn't turned off (knock on wood). Could that be the culprit?
Do your own test. Uncheck the "Use GPS Satellites" in the Location and Security menu. Check it when using Maps or Navigation but don't forget to Uncheck it when not in use. Observe for a week and see if you get the same results as I did.
Good luck.

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thanks kevrocks, how long have you had your captivate btw?
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It's been 1.5 weeks so far.

Mine did this also, when i called Samsung they explained to me that they don't know what the problem is that is causing this issue and that some users are experiecning it. They told me that I would need to send the phone in with Phone, Bat, and Bat Charger for a complete diagnostic overview. Unwilling to do this I just returned the phone for a different one. I'm thinking that if it happens it hardware and you are best off getting a replacement rather then messing with it.

RexEscape said:
There are a few threads here, including mine with the "Let's compare apps" theory http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763956. No on has been able to figure it out. However, in my observation, I had my Use GPS Satellites turned off while I was away on vacation in Europe. In the 7 days I was away, my phone never turned off on me. That was last week. This week, it still hasn't turned off (knock on wood). Could that be the culprit?
Do your own test. Uncheck the "Use GPS Satellites" in the Location and Security menu. Check it when using Maps or Navigation but don't forget to Uncheck it when not in use. Observe for a week and see if you get the same results as I did.
Good luck.
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Funny you mention location. I flashed jh2, latest sre, and tats lag fix yesterday. I was actually turning on my locations and my phone shutdown. I figured it was the oc kernel.
Had other random reboots/shutdowns after. Could have been the flash. Just fyi'ing.
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mine shut off for the first time yesterday, this is my second, first returned for a loose battery cover and speaker issue. I'm hoping the phone doesnt continue to shut off. Ive spoken to ATT, and i'm kinda screwed right now if it ends up being a hardware issue with the phone. i'm past my 30 days.

Oh, I also performed a factory data reset, and I haven't gotten any random shutdowns ever since.
I also spoke with Samsung technical support, and the rep suggested to do a soft reset. This is where you remove the battery, clean the gold contacts on the phone and battery, and then reinsert the battery.

I've had mine since the first Thursday it was out. For the first week or two, it shut down about once a day. After that, I've never had a random shut down. Don't know why, I've played around with settings and apps since day one back and forth, so I don't believe its any certain setting or app. Maybe a part of the phone or build getting adjusted?

I remember read somewhere that this is actually a hardware flaw: the battery barely touches the PINs. So if there is any free play in the battery compartment, your phone will randomly loss contact with battery and hence shutdown. Exchange the phone seems to be the only solution. Or you can insert some paper on the other end of the battery to make sure it tightly presses against the PINs.
Mine never encounters this problem regardless how I mess with my phones (flashed firmware couple times and rooted, updated many many times).

It definitely reacts as if the power was removed from the phone. There is no power down screen or indication of rebooting. I have looked at the contacts on the battery, but my last phone made a perfect connection as far as I could tell.
If it is a hardware issue, then I'm perfectly okay with that. I could wire the battery directly to the phone and problem solved. I've also heard of people having a lot of luck buying the cheap chinese batteries for the phone off of ebay to correct their shut down issues. Maybe their connectors are pushed more toward the surface than the Samsung battery.

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How confident are folks that we will get an actual FIX to the GPS issue?

Wanted to get a read from folks as to what their Gut feel is. Are you confident that Sammy will really fix this? Any by fix, I mean the following. This comes from experiences with 2 HTC smartphones (Aria, and the Pure):
1. GPS locks in under 5 seconds in clear sky conditions
2. Usable navigation; IOW, 30-50m accuracy, again under ideal conditions.
3. Usable navigation such that it stays locked while driving at highway speeds.
TIA.
I have not experienced any of the above issues (post update) except for the 5 second lock, and even my garmin can't do that. The cog2.2 had my gps jacked up so I reverted back and it works great again.
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I did My Tracks for the first time today and was surprised by the results - highway for 15 miles, 15 miles off (obtained the lock at highway speeds as well) But it lost me in this one dead area about a mile from my house - I drop most calls through this one area as well too.. must be a whole in the ozone
However! (Always a however, right?) Tonight while walking the dog around the neighborhood, the phone could see up to 12 satellites.. yet it didn't get a lock for over 5 minutes. <--- This is the biggest problem I have with the GPS on this phone. INCONSISTENT AS HELL.
What causes the inconsistency?? So since I've owned the phone (release day) and it's been this long and inconsistent from the beginning, I am beginning to lose my confidence in a real fix (at least Samsung can make some kind of formal announcement you know?)
My GPS has always worked. Stock JF6. Cognition 2, 2.1, 2.2.1-5. Anything I throw at it, it just works. Freeway, walking, indoors, etc. I think it is partly a hardware issue.
Mine is fixed
I ordered my Captivate from AT&T's online store. GPS did not work, no matter what kind of settings I played with (lbstestmode, etc.). Got the update, no help. Took it back to the AT&T store and replaced it. Got the update and it works fantastically. If yours is still in the 30 day warranty period get it switched out.
Considering that many people had the gps issue fixed with the ota update or with the newly released froyo, yet many still have problems, I think there are some bad phones. I'll try to get mine replaced even though it's outside the 30 days.
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I'm on my second Captivate. I have no faith that GPS will be reliable enough to use for navigation purposes or apps like My Tracks or even Layar. The OTA update definitely helped, but turns and changes in direction throw it off by quite a bit.
About all it is good for is telling your weather app what city you are in.
For me, the GPS didn't work from the first day I bought the phone. It got a lot better after the OTA update. However, it's getting mess up again in the last few days. I've heard other people from this forum said the GPS will go bad after a few weeks, I guess that's happening to me now. Moreover, the lag seems to be getting worse too.
I'm running Cognition 2.2 FroYo and for the first time ever I got 11/11 sattelites locked. My ride home it stayed more or less dead on the street i was on, occassionally wavered onto the sidewalk a bit or whatnot in My Tracks. That's using the stock settings (spirent-lcs.com and Standalone, with Use Wireless Networks off). If this does not degrade over time, I'd call it fixed for sure.
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Keep it coming folks; seems like for the most part people's gut feel is about in line with mine. Im going to return my Captivate to Amazon and have them replace it to see if I can see any improvement. Not holding my breath though.
waiting4gingerbread said:
My GPS has always worked. Stock JF6. Cognition 2, 2.1, 2.2.1-5. Anything I throw at it, it just works. Freeway, walking, indoors, etc. I think it is partly a hardware issue.
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Mine has always worked on both of captivates. It's in no way perfect but it gets the job done.
I just ordered a replacement Captivate from Amazon. I will then update the software to JH7 in the un-mollested state to see what kind of improvements I see, if any.
Crossed fingers............Bottom line, im not too confident.
So I got my replacement Captivate from Amazon. The second I got it, I stepped outside to see if I can get a GPS lock. I stood there for 5 minute, and no lock.
So I did the software update; which worked. It didnt work on my "molested" captivate.
I then went outside for a drive. Locked very quickly I think 5 seconds. Accuracy was very good; certainly on par with the two HTC smart phones Ive owned.
Maybe its dumb luck that I got a good unit; but it seems not overly molesting your captivate is a good idea until people really understand the consequences.
EDIT: The above drive I mentioned was in neighborhood roads, at relatively low speeds. On my way to work it was definitely NOT as accurate as my HTC Pure. It showed me about 1 exit behind; was about a half or three quarters of a mile.
I just want to say that I called Samsung support directly yesterday and the guy told me that "he hasn't heard anyone else who's applied the JH7 update that said their GPS wasn't fixed."
SO CALL SAMSUNG SUPPORT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Don't stop calling. They need to know the update didn't fix it!
brandonb81 said:
I just want to say that I called Samsung support directly yesterday and the guy told me that "he hasn't heard anyone else who's applied the JH7 update that said their GPS wasn't fixed."
SO CALL SAMSUNG SUPPORT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Don't stop calling. They need to know the update didn't fix it!
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They already know. I can guarantee you that some of their dev team consistently troll these forums.
My GPS works pretty well, especially considering its a phone, since JH7 OTA update.
The problem you're talking about with locks under 5 seconds, isnt always going to happen. It depends on how long its been since the last time gps was used, and how close you are currently to where you last used it.
If you use it and then turn it off, and in a few hours turn it back on, at roughly the last location it was used, it'll get a very quick lock. If you wait days, it wont. If you use it at location A last, then are long ways away from that location when turning it back on, it wont get a quick lock, it has to calculate where its at based on new data from the satellites. Thats the nature of the beast with GPS. My Garmin in my car is the exact same way. If it has to do a cold start it sometimes takes up to 2 mins to get a lock. But once its got it, if I go in a store for a few mins and come right back out, it picks up location almost immediately.
Since JH7 I'd say my GPS performance more than meets my expectations for a mobile phone GPS.
Started out very confident.
Less confident every day.
Tinyboss said:
Started out very confident.
Less confident every day.
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Yeah, I'm with you here.
When it came to the HTC video driver fiasco on many of their phones it was sickening that HTC wouldn't do anything about it, or even tackle the issue on future releases. But at least slower video performance than the hardware was capable of wasn't really a deal breaker when it was still working good. So I could understand why a company wouldn't invest a ton to fix it for already purchased phones.
This however is outright broken. It's not a phone with good video performance that COULD perform better with an update. It's a phone with a broken technology that can hopefully be FIXED with an update.
I don't know how Samsung will avoid lawsuits etc etc by manufacturing a blatantly broken piece of technology unless they can rectify the situation... quickly. I think their window is slowly closing on this type of scenario.
As for myself, the GPS problem just isn't an issue since I don't use the GPS anyhow. So I'm not a consumer frothing at the mouth, but the idea that I spent money on a fancy, but broken, phone leaves a bitter taste in that unfrothy mouth of mine.
I'm very confident. I put the leaked froyo from designgears on one of my phones and the lock was fast, and gps accurate. Drove from Chicago to Kohler, WI the other day (~130 miles) and ran gps on the phone along with my dedicated gps unit to check accuracy. Had no issues at all.
I think once 2.2 is released, all of the gps issues will be resolved if the leaked version is any indication.
I'm guessing it's the sum of several issues causing problems.
1. Basic hardware configuration that results in worse signal-to-noise than other handsets.
2. Non-optimized settings that sporadically contribute to slow or poor locks
3. Some kind of software buffering or other issues that cause freeze-ups where the position doesn't update.
When my phone is working well I don't experience problems 2 and 3, and I can live with problem 1. When that's the case I get consistent tracking 95% of my trip. Sometime 2 and 3 seem to creep into the picture for no apparent reason. I hope and expect they will get those problems solved.

A working way to get a GPS lock

Well... As we all know, gps is **** on our captivates. That being said, i found a way to get a gps lock, and almost all the time..
However the method isnt as simple as opening up Gmaps and pressing my location.
I have only tried this with Apex 8.2
To do this.. you have to enter AngryGPS (*#3214789650#*)
Then go to tracking test... Wait for it to present values of your latitude and longitude.
Once these values are there... press maps, and voila
Uhhh seems like the code is for lbstest. Well if so... By using a test feature all you are really doing is turning your gps on(all the time). Which will basically always give you quick lock because the gps is always on unless you kill all your apps or re-open lbstest and back out. Not really a fix, more of a drain on your battery. Only true fix for older models of this phone is to get a refurb'd from atnt/rogers in your case. (not samsung).
Once opened, Angry gps looks just like lbstest. For some reason it was renamed.
Just need to figure out a way to do this with Tasker.
Ah, in that case.. cant you just program tasker to only turn gps on when you open maps or a navigation app?
kimocal said:
Just need to figure out a way to do this with Tasker.
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Yeah, but how do you program tasker to open up lbstestmode... then run the tracking test... wait about 10 seconds... then open up maps?
So let me see if I get this straight. You start GPS, wait till it gets a lock and then open maps and you have a lock?
that's what we used to do on Eclair.
NascarFastcar is right, the only real way to have a working GPS is to get a refurbished unit. Most of us early adopters are going past our 1 year mark, so if you haven't, get one quick!
I still have a couple months in my warranty left. What problem would I go to them with?
The GPS is fixed on a refurb?
supaphreek said:
I still have a couple months in my warranty left. What problem would I go to them with?
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Tell them the gps dosent work. That's all. They will most likely try to get a lock indoors lol and then they will just give you a refurbed. They like to use google maps. I tried to show them gps test etc and they tried to blame my gps not working via a 3rd party app.
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The GPS is fixed on a refurb?
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Well since april 2011. All refurbs seem to have been fixed. Still have to watch out for older modeled refurbs that still might have random shutdowns. I know had about 6 refurbs with shutdowns after a week or two. But they all had great gps.
NascarFastcar said:
Tell them the gps dosent work. That's all. They will most likely try to get a lock indoors lol and then they will just give you a refurbed. They like to use google maps. I tried to show them gps test etc and they tried to blame my gps not working via a 3rd party app.
Well since april 2011. All refurbs seem to have been fixed. Still have to watch out for older modeled refurbs that still might have random shutdowns. I know had about 6 refurbs with shutdowns after a week or two. But they all had great gps.
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Okay... but im currently running apex 8.2.. So i cant go to them with a rooted and rommed phone. Do i downgrade to a 2.2 stock rogers rom?
NascarFastcar said:
Well since april 2011. All refurbs seem to have been fixed. Still have to watch out for older modeled refurbs that still might have random shutdowns. I know had about 6 refurbs with shutdowns after a week or two. But they all had great gps.
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I disagree that the gps is fixed. I just got a refurb about 6 weeks ago. The gps worked awesome for a few weeks. It now sucks eggs - actually worse than my last phone. Totally stock, just like my previous phone. I don't know the build number because it has a weird refurb sticker that doesn't have a build number on it.
-Rich
Take it back and get another one until they give you one that works.
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Take it back and get another one until they give you one that works.
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I've learned how to use it. I know others have tried, but here are the ONLY real instructions that work:
1) You have to always look 2 steps ahead of what it says when using Google Maps on a Captivate because you never know when all of a sudden it will think you're on a different street and start giving you directions on how to get back on the correct path.
2) When she it starts telling you how to correct yourself (when you're actually already on the right path) learn how to IGNORE it or it will confuse you
3) It's ok for occasional use, but always and I mean ALWAYS have a real GPS handy in the glove compartment for the occasions when your Captivate decides that it isn't in the mood to lock onto any statellites even when it sees 7 or 8 with a with strong signals
4) Always have a real GPS handy when your Captivate can't locate ANY satellites.
5) When in Maine or rural New Hampshire don't even think about using your Captivate!!!
6) Overlook it's GPS defects because it's so awesome in every other way.
Does this post earn a sticky? We should coin a pharse that encompasses all of the above (you know your Captivate has trained you in a similar manor).
richb500 said:
I've learned how to use it. I know others have tried, but here are the ONLY real instructions that work:
1) You have to always look 2 steps ahead of what it says when using Google Maps on a Captivate because you never know when all of a sudden it will think you're on a different street and start giving you directions on how to get back on the correct path.
2) When she it starts telling you how to correct yourself (when you're actually already on the right path) learn how to IGNORE it or it will confuse you
3) It's ok for occasional use, but always and I mean ALWAYS have a real GPS handy in the glove compartment for the occasions when your Captivate decides that it isn't in the mood to lock onto any statellites even when it sees 7 or 8 with a with strong signals
4) Always have a real GPS handy when your Captivate can't locate ANY satellites.
5) When in Maine or rural New Hampshire don't even think about using your Captivate!!!
6) Overlook it's GPS defects because it's so awesome in every other way.
Does this post earn a sticky? We should coin a pharse that encompasses all of the above (you know your Captivate has trained you in a similar manor).
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Ah but you see, i dont drive. Well i do... but i dont have a car. So public transport is what i use and luckily, google maps supports it. Basically all i need is a position lock, rather than finding my house, tracking down whatever streets i used to get to wherever i am, then selecting that as a point...
I returned my 1008 Captivate because of random shutdowns last week and received a 1007 refurb and the GPS was perfect on 2.2.1 and continues to be perfect on Apex 8.2. Also, no random shutdowns.
Exchanged a 1007 Captivate in My, got a 1010 refurb. GPS is about 98% as good as my Garmin GPS in one car. In the other, there must be some kind of interference scit doesn't keep a good signal in the location I put it navigate.
I find it fun to see the difference in the routes they provide.
The 1010 model can also track me walking on the sidewalk. I was watching Google Earth zoomed in as far as it would go.
+1 on returning the phone to an AT&T device service center. I went several weeks back and tested my phone when I got home and it was worse. Went back the next day, the girl there first turned on the "use mobile network" option and told me the gps was now working. I got a little aggrevated but politely pressed on, she then told me the samsung captivate has no gps in it, this sparked my asshole lawyer mode. After making the girl feel embarrased in front of her coworkers for insulting my intelligence I demanded a different rep work with me. I had him go thru 7 phones before getting one that had a working gps. After the 2nd, they told me I would have to call customer service, I laughed and told them that this is a customer service center and my contract entitles me to burn through every single unit they have until they fix my device issue. After the 6th the guy finally paid attention to what I was telling them about looking at the build number (because they have to send all those phones back to samsung). I now have an 1101 that has been working great for about a month. If it screws up again I will go ruin their day again.

Third Phone - Not the Charm!

Just got my third G2x from T-Mobile. I'm running LauncherPro. I must have done something wrong because I backed up to SD card but after installing new phone it gave me an error reading SD card. I had to reset everything!
Anyway, I got a 2nd replacement (this is number 3 phone) because the 2nd one continued to have the random reboot issues.
This one is different from the other two. The icons in the top bar are smaller and the GPS signal button is different. Could this be an upgraded software?
It states Android 2.3.3, kernel version 2.6.32.9 and Software version LG-P999-V21e
Trouble is, this phone is way worse than either of the first two! I think only 1 reboot so far (1 day) but 3 times now after the phone sleeps I have to remove battery to turn it back on! And it will not allow me to mount the phone as a USB. Sometimes the message appears to turn on USB but it will not work. Touching the screen does nothing. Then the screens start to rapidly change.
Looking like number 4!
What other programs have you installed? These types of issues are almost always apps and not the OS or the hardware. The fact you are having similar problems with three phones seems to indicate that even more. Stop blaming the device and figure out what you are doing to it to screw it up.
Try installing the GB drivers to your computer via LG. That's what I had to do to get my phone to mount.
Powered by a G2x
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What other programs have you installed? These types of issues are almost always apps and not the OS or the hardware. The fact you are having similar problems with three phones seems to indicate that even more. Stop blaming the device and figure out what you are doing to it to screw it up.
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I agree. "I went through 8 G2x's and all of them did the same thing after I restored my backup..."
Also, get off the stock firmware as it is absolutely unstable (Sleep of Death (SOD) and resets). I've been running MIUI since mid-August and haven't had 1 reset or SoD. Most CM7 nightly builds are good but a few will cause issues. Look at the stable version of CM7 or Weapon.
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I agree. "I went through 8 G2x's and all of them did the same thing after I restored my backup..."
Also, get off the stock firmware as it is absolutely unstable (Sleep of Death (SOD) and resets). I've been running MIUI since mid-August and haven't had 1 reset or SoD. Most CM7 nightly builds are good but a few will cause issues. Look at the stable version of CM7 or Weapon.
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The stock Gingerbread firmware is absolutely rock solid. I have been running it since it was released and have had zero problems. The only change to the system is that I rooted it. If I install an app that gives me the slightest trouble I uninstall it immediately. There is nothing wrong with the GB rom as LG delivered it. The Froyo rom did have problems, but the GB rom is very good. Many of the custom roms are based on it and just have hacks and tweaks. Very few are compiled from source like CM is.
Update to Phone
First, let me say that T-Mobile Customer Service is great! Every time I call or visit the store they are friendly and try their best to help me.
I called T-Mobile and explained the issues on this phone, as one person wrote above the "SOD". She walked me through a bunch of steps, and I'm fine with that, I understand she has to be sure i have done all the typical troubleshooting. She confirmed that the new one had GB.
She is sending phone number 4 out today. Meanwhile she said go by the store to have them check the battery, just in case. I did that, it was kind of funny. Gal says, no need to test it, I'll just grab a new one. She comes back and inserts new battery, "There ya go, brand new battery". Ah, Miss, I say, it won't turn on now. "No, that can't be, its a new battery". She finally went and got me yet another new battery!
Hopefully this 4th phone will do the trick.
As for the apps, maybe I do need to uninstall some, but it seems like what I have are all mainstream apps:
Launcherpro
Beautiful Widgets
Touchdown Pro
Pure Calendar
Juice Defender
Batter Monitor Widget (free edition)
All of the above are paid apps too, not free versions (except Battery Monitor).
Any thoughts, known issues on these?
Thanks!
All those are pretty common apps, none of which I've had trouble with. Juice defender has been a cause of connectivity, etc issues for some people, but works fine on all my devices.
If I were you I would ***** until they replaced it with a Sensation, Amaze, SGS2, etc. I've seen so many people with 3,4,5,6 replacements on this board....why? As much as I like the form factor, the G2x is not worth 4 replacements. NO product is worth 4 replacements. Needing to have a product replaced is one thing, having to replace the replacement, or more, is ridiculous. Fool me once....
At what point do you say, "wow screw this POS." 4 replacements is a company jacking you around. I got lucky with a mostly mint G2x on launch day. Had it had issues I would have replaced it, beyond that..... the G2x is a nice phone, but there is absolutely zilch nada NOTHING special enough about it to deserve 4 replacements.
I don't mean to sound like a douche or harsh or anything. I just don't get why this is a recurring theme on this board. Would you do this with a pair of jeans, or with a TV, or with tires? No. The product sucked the first time, why repeat the experience?
I hear ya Adamhart. On the phone with CS today I asked this very question. She said I was not eligible for a different pone ... yet. She indicated that x number of returns within 90 days usually trips the option. First sign of trouble on number 4 and I will be calling. When the phone is working I like it, but I'd happily trade it for something else.
Thanks for the note on Juice Defender, I noticed on another thread some issues so for the moment I have it turned off.
Fouth Phone Arrived
So number 4 arrived next day. I set it up. Such a pain to have to reinstall everything. So far all is good. The battery life is not improved but one day later with no reboots and it starts up without a problem (no sleep of death!).
So far so good.....
I' ve been using an extended battery for a few months now and its been great. No reboots or SOD issues.
Couple of weeks ago I insert the stock battery. Within the hour I have 1 freeze up and 3 SOD! That stock battery is defective. Its been the cause of 80% of my problems with this device.
4th phone has same problems. Already posted a rant! I'm going to try rooting!
You know I never had a problem with my g2x and I see all these people going thru 3-6 phones THANK GOD I'm not on that statics.
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And I see mostly the ones who have problems don't usually nvflash cwm and install a custom rom.
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I broke my last one (slammed it on concrete) so got a replacement through Asurion, they sent me a refurb (as they tend to do).
thing worked well for the first day, albeit a bit weak on battery, then started having charge issues and general mis-reporting on the battery (it'd say 100% when it meant 20%, around 5 hours after being unplugged it would drop very steeply (~75%) to catch up)
I noticed on the 1809#*999# menu that the Factory Version was registering as Unknown. After a few more days of it being a pain in the ass I went ahead and did a Factory Reset. After which the Factory Version reported the correct numbers.
Works almost flawlessly now, I'm getting a good 30 hours of battery life out of the thing (mostly texting + standby). I'm currently using the default launcher with Go Contacts and Go SMS (It sucks Go Contacts can't clear missed calls properly on 2.3.3 but it's a minor complaint), Facebook, Battery Monitor Widget (3c), and a few other small apps.
Also, I noticed on my first phone that JuiceDefender seemed to cause Sleep of Death issues. At least thats what the process of elimination had me believe (and this was back on Froyo). IMO - just leave everything alone with regards to task killers and battery enhancers, GB actually does a very good job of battery management on its own.
I continued to have trouble with number 4. Called T-Mo. Long story short they said "nothing we can do until LG comes out with new software update".
Phone is just not useable the way it is (mine that is) so I finally followed the advice of so many on this board and I rooted the phone and installed CM7.
I was a little freaked out a first because CM7 looks so different. Now I am comfortable with it. I have loaded up all the apps and configurations again. So far it is good. A couple of times the phone shut down but that may be more to all the changes I have been doing. One the whole it is far more stable than stock. Battery life is a tad improved too, but still not great.
My mom is about to embark on her third try. She doesn't download apps at all. Phone won't hold call for more than a minute.

[Q] Atrix 2 Heat Issues

I have had my Atrix 2 8 days past the 30 day mark. And recently the phone has started getting really hot. Not when I am using but when it is just sitting.
I have checked to see what app or process could be running and causing it. And I have found nothing. This is what I have checked so far
Wifi is off
Bluetooth is off
GPS is off
Here are the only things using my power
Cell Standby 33%
Phone Idle 31%
Voice Calls 9%
Motorola Services 4%
Display 4%
And it gets smaller from there. I can set the phone down and walk away and come back to pick it up and it is smokin hot with 40% of the battery drained.
I sent an email to Motorola support on New Years. I have not heard back from them. I also contacted ATT and they want to give me a refurbished phone. Which I have refused due to last phone I did with them. I got a scratched up dented phone in trade for my flawless phone. I told them my phone has been used for 38 days and is flawless I want the same back.
I liked the phone at first but I am about at my wits end. Any ideas what can be causing this?
My phone gets really hot when I leave the camera app running.
Droid incredible 2 running cyanogenmod 7 nightly 134
I just went into my task manager and the only things that are using my cpu are the Android System at 25% and Home Screen at 1%. And my battery just dropped from 15% to 5% in 20 mins sitting with the screen off.
Download an app called watchdog and see if you can trace down a rogue app maybe. Also setcpu gives you an option to see the battery temp. Would be interesting to see what the temp is when you're saying its hot. Mine generally stays around 32° with general usage.
I am trying your suggestion and running into the second issue I having. No data. I just opened the market and it says server error. Tried 4 times. And the little 4g symbol is white not blue and I have 3 bars of signal.
I love android and I love the look and feel of this phone. But this thing is seriously p*****g me off.
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I am trying your suggestion and running into the second issue I having. No data. I just opened the market and it says server error. Tried 4 times. And the little 4g symbol is white not blue and I have 3 bars of signal.
I love android and I love the look and feel of this phone. But this thing is seriously p*****g me off.
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I run into that issue at work sometimes myself and usually its due to spotty coverage. I have a airplane mode toggle just for it. Toggle on and off and usually jumps right up to 4G in blue
Update: Motorola never responded to my email. AT& T never called me back. So I called them yesterday and asked them why they didn't return my call like they said and chewed them out.
I tried the watchdog application and it never alerted of any rogue apps yet the phone remained hot.
So the end result was ATT sold me a Samsung Galaxy S2 SKYROCKET for 149.00 (199 was normal price but I got 50 credit for what I paid for atrix) and a 160 credit on my bill. They put a supervisor on the line who apologized repeatedly for them not returning my call.
The crazy thing is they don't want the atrix back? I asked them what about the atrix they said try to return it at the store I bought it at if I want.. Overall I am more than happy with Att's response after they dropped the ball. But I will never buy another Motorola product again. They have yet to get back to me. They sent me an email over a week ago saying they will be contacting me in 24hours and and a week later nothing.
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Never had my A2 gets too hot. BTW you had a problem with ATT not moto for not exchanging your phone. If it gets too hot and your battery is draining too fast it might just be a simple battery exchange. Moto will never listen to peoples request or demand ^_^v but there are great devs here cooking up some fix for our A2's existing bugs. I think i will never get to see your problem though because my GPS, 4g/data, bloatwares, are always off and have droidwall that gives me some control on what goes out of my phone. You might want to call ATT and have them check if your phone is set to 4G because mine wasn't before and they had to configure their end for it to work properly.
Before you went ahead and exchanged it, you probably should have flashed the stock fxz and factory restored, and then reinstalled your apps one by one to ensure that there isn't a rogue app hiding somewhere on your phone.
But at least you're happy with the end result. Too bad you don't still have the A2, it's a great phone. I've never had that problem with it (but I did a couple times with my A4G).
I just got an email back from Motorola today. Also, I did factory a reset and the problems persist. I do still have the phone. I may do refurb exchange and give it to my wife. She doesn't care about it like I do. She will have it torn up in 2 weeks from throwing it in her purse and letting my kids play with it.
I would bet on it being the issue I experienced with cpu not scaling. Let me tell you that was a witch Hunt.
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I would bet on it being the issue I experienced with cpu not scaling. Let me tell you that was a witch Hunt.
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How did you fix the issue? My phone is doing it now. I'm getting very frustrated, I really like the phone and I don't want to get rid of it. They have replaced my battery and my phone once over the issue, and here it goes again! Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Same issue here. Phone will be in stand-by mode, battery starts to get very hot to the touch, and it automatically reboots.
FYI: To the OP and anyone else; Your phone is under warranty for 1 year. You can go to the motorola website and look up whether or not you're still in warranty.
This could all be caused by a number of things, including but not limited to: SIM card may need to be swapped for a new one, the sdacrd may be of a class that's unstable to run or has corrupted data/app data, clearing Dalvik and/or cache partition(s) may not hurt to try, if the signal coverage isn't consistent and the phone has to search for signal to connect with this will eat your battery alive and cause some excessive heat as well, the battery may be going ka-put, battery stats could be wiped, may need to try a factory reset, or it could be a hardware issue altogether. Motorola isn't manufacturing "new" Atrix 2 phones any longer, so even if you have a warranty and go for an exchange through Moto, you're most likely going to end up with a refurb phone. Moto seems notorious for manufacturing devices that do run hot, and I suppose it could also be attributed to how much the user is "using" the phone. Clock speeds also, the higher they are, will run the phone hotter, and if pushed too high or at an unstable clock speed, the device most certainly WILL randomly reboot. Sorry there isn't a more 'definitive' answer that I'm able to come up with, but trying anything and everything at this point might not bode poorly in your favor...

Issue list after about one year of use !

Well, I've been using my Oneplus since a pretty long time, and I decided to list all the issues I have since I got it. It's pretty long so stay sitted.
- Ghost touches on touchscreen.
- Touch screen becoming suddently unresponsive.
- Never could manually select my carrier.
- Never could connect to carrier network.
- Never could download MMS.
- Never could connect to LTE/4G, even though the APN was correctly set up.
- Camera freezes randomly.
- Phone keeps waking up for no reason (the touch to wake keeps getting triggered, certainly a ghost touch issue).
- Photos are pretty bad, stabilisation sucks.
- Call app keeps randomly crashing, only solution to use it again is to reboot the phone.
- Messages app keeps randomly crashing, only solution to use it again is to reboot the phone.
- Random system crashes (something similar to a segfault somewhere in the UI management code).
- High battery drain (I mean, REALLY high, like, "a full battery in half a day" high !).
- SMS sending/receiving fails very often.
- GPS fixe is unreliable, it keeps draging my position over the whole town and never settles.
- Compass is unreliable, according to it, I keep spinning around, even after a recalibration.
I guess that's about it, I am missing some, but that's already pretty long.
I tried everything and made a clean install after each update to be sure, and the problems kept on adding onto each others.
The only thing that could explain that could be very poor build quality and Cyanogen mod's team incompetence (yeah, these guys really can't code properly, putting their ROM on the phone was a big mistake from OnePlus).
I would like to precise that I treated the phone very well, it never fell down, it doesn't even have a little scratch. It really feels like using one of those counterfeit phones, even though I got it from the official online store.
How many of these issues did you have ? And if you did, how did you fixe it (if you could ever fixe them) ?
There's something pretty wrong with your phone, it shouldn't act like that. You need to provide some more information.
What build are you on?
Is your bootloader unlocked?
Do you have a custom recovery?
Have you modified it in any way?
What was the last update you took and how did you apply it?
I have similar things happening to mine.
I've treated it well with no major damage to the phone.
After having it from a year and a month I've noticed that it's started. I've updated normally through OTA to CM12.1-YOG4PAS1N0.
Never rooted ( really considering it now, was very lazy haha ), never customised just kept all stock.
The problems I am having that really are concerning me :
- Very high battery drain (doesn't last 4-5 hours at most).
- Very high CPU usage (and hence the phone getting quite hot) thought it was the google play services bug, didn't change when I applied the changes.
- SMS taking a while to send (between 1.5~2 minutes for a message to send).
I'm thinking of factory restoring my phone, just want to find something decent to back my important data up (e.g. sms, some app data) [anyone welcome to suggest anything, I'm still looking].
If I factory reset I will post any results of what happens.
As I've stated in another forum thread started by the above user, I have had a lot of the aformentioned problems and worse.
We've both described our issues in that thread and as I've stated I'm growing so weary. I had my PC fail on me last year and spent all year chasing warranties and RMA's and having to coax companies, who are legally bound to do what I am having to beg and threaten before they do it. Then this year I get a defective OnePlus One and One Plus themselves ignore, deflect, delay and misdirect me. I've had the phone 10 months now and I've been complaining and fighting for 6 months with the above problems and I was only just offered an RMA (or RRR as they call it) this month. That's 6 months of begging, pleading and then demanding. Safe to say I have sought third party legal advice and will be taking this as far as it can go.
I would make contact with them as soon as you can regarding these issues or they will only use that against you.

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