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I received Brando's anti-glare protector today. It's a perfect fit, even has a little hole in the top left corner where the proximity & light sensors are. However...
It makes the screen look like sh*t, everything is "grainy" or "foggy". I can barely read my email (using the stock gmail client). I've always been a fan of Brando's screen protectors, ever since I bought one for my Axim X5 in.. what? 2003 or so... and their "Ultra-clear" protectors are still great (i put one on my wife's Magic and you can't tell it's there), but their anti-glare ones are pretty much useless on the N1 and similar phones.
Has anyone else used this particular screen protector? Was it as bad as mine, or did i just get a dud?
damchi said:
I received Brando's anti-glare protector today. It's a perfect fit, even has a little hole in the top left corner where the proximity & light sensors are. However...
It makes the screen look like sh*t, everything is "grainy" or "foggy". I can barely read my email (using the stock gmail client). I've always been a fan of Brando's screen protectors, ever since I bought one for my Axim X5 in.. what? 2003 or so... and their "Ultra-clear" protectors are still great (i put one on my wife's Magic and you can't tell it's there), but their anti-glare ones are pretty much useless on the N1 and similar phones.
Has anyone else used this particular screen protector? Was it as bad as mine, or did i just get a dud?
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I just got my BoxWave anti-glare protector today, and it is really clear... if it turns out it is just an issue with all Brano's, take a look at the Boxwave one's. I got it 3 days after ordering it, came with a cleaning cloth and application card. As well, it is static cling too boot!
box wave sells really good screen protectors.
any pictures of it on the N1? please?
hmarcus said:
any pictures of it on the N1? please?
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My only camera is my N1 right now since I just sold my G1 and the digital camera is at my brothers... I will try to grab it next time I go over there.
I will say that the fit is pretty good, but not perfect, it has about 1mm on one side and the top(I decided when I laid it down, I would do it that way so the bottom and right side was fully covered). When off, there is a hair of cloudiness, when on there is a hint of graininess and whites give a "prism" look at the correct angle, but both effects keep getting less and less as it has more time to fully work itself onto the screen and get all the air out. I suspect in a day or two there will be no "prism" effect of graininess.
It has a great feel to it when swiping, no drag at all. As well, fingerprints are a thing of the past.
I also ordered one of their ultra-clear, not anti-glare, and it is just perfectly clear. I use my phone outside a fair amount, though, so I wanted to do the anti-glare first and see if I could withstand the graininess and what not that is common with all anti-glare screen protectors. Compared to ones I have used in the past, just generic eBay ones, on my G1 and a TyTN II, this is the best anti-glare I have seen so far.
pjcforpres said:
My only camera is my N1 right now since I just sold my G1 and the digital camera is at my brothers... I will try to grab it next time I go over there.
I will say that the fit is pretty good, but not perfect, it has about 1mm on one side and the top(I decided when I laid it down, I would do it that way so the bottom and right side was fully covered). When off, there is a hair of cloudiness, when on there is a hint of graininess and whites give a "prism" look at the correct angle, but both effects keep getting less and less as it has more time to fully work itself onto the screen and get all the air out. I suspect in a day or two there will be no "prism" effect of graininess.
It has a great feel to it when swiping, no drag at all. As well, fingerprints are a thing of the past.
I also ordered one of their ultra-clear, not anti-glare, and it is just perfectly clear. I use my phone outside a fair amount, though, so I wanted to do the anti-glare first and see if I could withstand the graininess and what not that is common with all anti-glare screen protectors. Compared to ones I have used in the past, just generic eBay ones, on my G1 and a TyTN II, this is the best anti-glare I have seen so far.
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is the boxwave screen protector static cling or adhesive?
melterx12 said:
is the boxwave screen protector static cling or adhesive?
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static cling. My experience on my Tilt was that it stayed on very well, but easy to take off.
If you start with dust or anything under the protector, it is easy to lift with a piece of tape and get the dust off. If necessary, you can take it off, wash with a little soapy water, dry it, and put it back on.
Had to do that with the Tilt because I was so ham-fingered when putting it on.
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is the boxwave screen protector static cling or adhesive?
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Static, like was already mentioned. I would not recommend the "anti-glare" for anyone that wants or expects it to be 100% crystal clear. Even after a couple days, I still have the slight "prism" effect going on... it works great in the sunlight making it so you can see the screen, but I don't think the outdoor improvement is worth the trade off.
As for application, the best way is to start taking off the backing, and then as you lay it down remove it more and more along the way.
The screen protector is thick enough that it lays down really really well with out any air bubbles.
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Static, like was already mentioned. I would not recommend the "anti-glare" for anyone that wants or expects it to be 100% crystal clear. Even after a couple days, I still have the slight "prism" effect going on... it works great in the sunlight making it so you can see the screen, but I don't think the outdoor improvement is worth the trade off.
As for application, the best way is to start taking off the backing, and then as you lay it down remove it more and more along the way.
The screen protector is thick enough that it lays down really really well with out any air bubbles.
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can you post some photos with the N1 screen on and off?
In case anyone's interested, I uploaded a video to Vimeo. It's here: www"DOT"vimeo"DOT"com/9087329 (<3 spam rules for "new" users)
Note that the video actually makes the screen protector look a lot better than it really is...
My screen is currently "naked" and I'm waiting on dcmugen's clear screen protector (bought a pack of 5 for like 5 EUR).
Edit/update: uploaded to youtube as well (try the 1080p version) - www"DOT"youtube"DOT"com/watch?v=0yxpBL1zsFo
yes, i have ordered many different screen protectors in my time. just got an hd2 and decided to go with the brando anti glare... horrible! it is the most unreadable anti glare sp i have ever bought. the fit and and the cut is perfect, but it diffuses too much light. it does reduce glare but absorbes too much light that it makes the entire screen too light that you cant see anything anyway.
even my 5 dollar dc mugen for my mt3g used better material. i may have to try the boxwave.
i did end up buying the brando ultra clear after and those are still top notch.
Hi,
I have a had a Boxwave & Clarivue Anti-Glare, both decrease the clarity of the screen & I would not recommend.
I have ended up using a Clarivue Ultra Clear. You sustain the clarity of the screen & you can't even notice that it is there. Also when you order you get two sets at the same price of buying one Boxwave.
I would recommend Clarivue if you want to get the Ultra Clear, but if you still want to decrease the glare of the screen. I would recommend that you find a alternative screen protector that is not a Anti Glare but with a matt finish.
I have a 10% discount code if you want to order a Clarivue.
code: Clarivue7
Thanks
JAW$
I like anti glare because it has the "matte" feel. Do all 3 Boxwave & Clarivue Anti-Glare and brando have that feel?
mistake sorry posted same message twice
pixelshader64 said:
I like anti glare because it has the "matte" feel. Do all 3 Boxwave & Clarivue Anti-Glare and brando have that feel?
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Clarivue & Boxwave Anti-Glare do have the matt feel, but decrease clarity.
Better off going with a standard matt screen protector.
JAW$ said:
Clarivue & Boxwave Anti-Glare do have the matt feel, but decrease clarity.
Better off going with a standard matt screen protector.
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i wasnt aware they made matte protectors that werent anti glare---could you possibly link these please. thanks!
pixelshader64 said:
i wasnt aware they made matte protectors that werent anti glare---could you possibly link these please. thanks!
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Hi,
I think this might be what you are looking for. I done a quick search.
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/M04-Pro-Scru...tDomain_216?hash=item255892922d#ht_4638wt_939
I haven't tried it but looks promising and cheap. You can ask the seller if you have any queries.
First off, my intention for getting a screen protector was to never actually protect the screen, but to reduce finger prints as I have quite oily fingers.
First I tried the Ultimate Screen Protector from Seido.
PRO: Looks like there's no protector on the screen, amazing clarity.
CON: Did NOT help with the finger prints at all. No help in how easily they got ON the screen, or how difficult they are to clean once on.
Then I sent my phone into HTC for repair and they screwed up the screen protector, so I had to take it off.
Now I have on DCMugen's Matte screen protector.
PRO: No fingerprints! For someone with oily fingers this was great.
CON: HUGE reduction in screen quality/clarity. Makes the screen very grainy and small text harder to read.
So now I'm torn, because it seems the clear screen protector doesn't help with fingerprints at all, so I'm constantly wiping it off, but the matte screen protector completely ruins this beautiful screen. I wish there was an intermediate, something which did not reduce fingerprints perhaps as much as the matte screen protector, but closer in clarity to the ultra clear.
thanks for that - i have teh dcmugen clear on my phone right now and its just as bad as the screen without a protector. I have the matte sitting here ready to apply but after reading your post I think i'll hold off - i have enough trouble reading the screen outdoors as it is.
Well, I think the matte one will help with the outdoor visibility very slightly. I mean, overall visibility of the screen. It may be more visible, but the quality of the screen will be much lower.
When you say "its just as bad as the screen without a protector" do you mean in terms of finger prints?
yea finger prints.
the dcmugen matte protecter is amazing outdoors, with that protector and the automatic brightness setting i never have a problem seeing outside, with the clears it was always a pain in the ass, i just put my last dcmugen on the phone, time to order more. Ill never buy my screen protectors from anywhere else
damn I guess I better try out that matte protector after all
bpm2000 said:
damn I guess I better try out that matte protector after all
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Did you try it out? What do you think?
zagg screen protector seems to be the best of both.. no fingerprints and clarity retained.
I have never tried those two brands i have always used Best Skins ever and Gadget Shieldz and they work great. Zagg always costs too much and leaves a orange peel effect on all my devices.
OP, Just use the first screen protector from Seido no sense in ruining that beautiful amoled screen with the other brand just to keep finger prints off and just learn to deal with the finger prints it is a touch screen phone.
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Did you try it out? What do you think?
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Not yet- too busy playing with froyo. will update again if i do
zagg sucks - the feel of the plastic is too sticky for good swiping imo
Any pics of the matte on the phone?
the difference in clarity honestly isnt that great of a difference, the fingerprints and grease that collects on the regular screen protectors affects the clarity more to be honest. Now that its finally always sunny out ive been using a regular clear protector cause i ran out of dcmugens, and i cant see **** on my screen from the glare, i cant wait till the other dcmugens i ordered get here. only down fall is it takes about two weeks to get them in the us since they ship from hong kong
Has anyone find a screen protector for N1 which has same capability as oleophobic coating?
same question here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699591
I love the dcmugen screen protector. It needs one or two days to get used to the anti-glare feature which makes the screen a bit more "crispy" but you don't see it anymore after a while (really.. please try it for 1 or 2 days and don't throw the protector away after a few minutes.. it gets MUCH better). In addition on the first day the protector wasn't as "slippery" as the original display, but now this issue is gone completely.. no difference with / without protector.
They are cheap, perfect fit and i have nearly 0 fingerprints!
Hmm, so they make your screen blurry? isnt that the whole point of having an oleophobic screen protector to stop finger prints making your screen blurry?
no not really blurry.. hard to explain.. the screen looks a bit different with anti-glare protectors, not bothering me at all after one or two days.
i try to do a video or some photos so you can see what i mean
hope you can see what i mean.. just a slight decrease in quality
watercool said:
no not really blurry.. hard to explain..
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Yes, blurry. You lose the sharpness of the image in addition to a decrease in the overall luminance transferred to your eye. And not to mention the rainbow diffraction effect.
Matted displays basically make our 580 dollar AMOLED investment look like a high resolution gameboy advance color. That's what I feel about it anyways.
So far the only CLEAR screen protector I've found to repel fingerprints is the casemate one. Most others make it more difficult to remove fingerprints. Attempting to wipe them off just swirls the oils around.
edit: forget it, useless to discuss.
my screen is bright enough and there is no rainbow in my phone .. I like it.. thats all i wanted to say if someone want to test it (for a few $...)
can i buy only the screen protector? the only thing i see is this ultra ugly full protect thing.. this is even worse.. buying a $600 phone and then wrap it in 10 cent plastic
I am wondering if there are any screen protector that can help me vide the screen better outside in the sun
Right now I hate it how I am now been able to see the screen in the direct sunlight
No replies yet huh!
Have you tried any?
I had horrible luck with a mirrored one but the normal one seems to help. I need to get one of the anti-glare ones to try.
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I use the Clarivue Ultra-Clear protector and it's fantastic. They also-make an anti-glare protector as well...
http://www.clarivue.com/htc-nexus-one-screen-protector.html
However, keep in mind that this will only help REDUCE GLARE which may help you see better, but visibility in sunlight is a limitation of the AMOLED screen the nexus uses (and any other devices that uses AMOLED).... they just suck in sunlight. There is no way around this unless you get a phone with LCD (ie: iPhone) or SuperAMOLED (ie: Samsung Galaxy S)
I use DCMugen's Anti-glare screen protector and it does help quite a bit with reflections on the screen. Only a slight difference in direct sunlight however.
You should keep in mind though that most anti-glare screen protectors degrade the image quality on the screen. It gets better a couple of days after the protector is applied, but it's not perfect. You should just try to order some from ebay and test them, they are like $5 for 5 screen protectors.
lostinbeta said:
I use the Clarivue Ultra-Clear protector and it's fantastic. They also-make an anti-glare protector as well...
http://www.clarivue.com/htc-nexus-one-screen-protector.html
However, keep in mind that this will only help REDUCE GLARE which may help you see better, but visibility in sunlight is a limitation of the AMOLED screen the nexus uses (and any other devices that uses AMOLED).... they just suck in sunlight. There is no way around this unless you get a phone with LCD (ie: iPhone) or SuperAMOLED (ie: Samsung Galaxy S)
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How does it fit ?
My box wave is a little too smallfor my screen.
If possible can you post pictures of yours ? I can never get a good seal ((borders always end up with tiny edge bubble)) and fit from boxwave.
Hello, guys, I am going to buy a Surface soon, and a very important thing for me is how does the screen look when thhere is a matte screen protector on in. I really hate glare and fingerprints, especially on tablets, all of my friends put screen protectors on their iPads and it was much better expeience than an iPad without it (fuuuuuull of fingerprints).
On the other hand, I had a matte screen protector on my Galaxy Nexus and it was a bad experience - there was a huge pixelization or whatever like that. So I wonder if Surface's screen does look the same great with matte screen protector on it as an iPad or it is not.
Has anyone tried it?
I don't have a matte screen protector, but i put a cheap glossy type on it (weren't alot of choices a few weeks back). Thing is I can never get these things on without specks of dirt and bubbles (I even tried the shower steam trick). It looks okay but I figure I will need to do it again soon.
But after hearing stories about how durable the Surface is and the screen (somew guy had his run over by a car) I am tempted to ga bare since it looks the best that way. Not sure a matte protector would look good though as the reason why the display looks good is the glossy contract.
I got the Incipio PLEX screen protector on mine, but it's not matte. It's less fingerprint prone than the naked screen (although, not by much), but I use it mostly with the keyboard so it doesn't bother me. My guess is the privacy one is should be matte. You can check them out both here:
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/accessories/more-accessories
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I got the Incipio PLEX screen protector on mine, but it's not matte. It's less fingerprint prone than the naked screen (although, not by much), but I use it mostly with the keyboard so it doesn't bother me. My guess is the privacy one is should be matte. You can check them out both here:
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/accessories/more-accessories
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If it's not matte, then what is it? Is it just 100% crystal clear and not anti-glare (matte) right?
I got the anti-glare Ghost Armor on my RT. I love it.
There are some caveats to it though. Anti-glare works by scattering light, so reflected light doesn't all go the same direction. This means three things:
First, it scatters light on the way out too, so it does dull the display a bit. Not a lot but the colors are ever so slightly less vibrant.
Second, because it is a whole bunch on microscopic bumps, it does have microscopic artifacting that comes from the optic nature of the plastic. Because pixels have three different color subpixels, and because it is scattering the light from those, so it does look somewhat textured. If that makes sense. (This could potentially be what you're referring to when you say "pixelization".)
Third, fingerprints are a little more unsightly. If your hands are reasonably clean, then this shouldn't be much of an issue, but when I am using my Surface at Chick-fil-a or something, the grease (and Chick-fil-a is not a greasy place) is noticeable. It's because, like I said, the light scattering effect comes from microscopic bumps. The grease from your fingers fills the space between the bumps, giving is a much more glossy-like coating, which stands out when contrasted with the rest of the matte display.
None of these are dealbreakers obviously, as I still love it. The display is gorgeous enough that the slight dulling of the colors is acceptable, the textured look is far preferred over seeing my own reflection, and the grease thing doesn't come up much and regular fingerprints are less noticeable.
But being able to use my Surface even when in direct sunlight is amazing. I would recommend it whole-heartedly.
9/10
Because of the scattering due to the microscopic roughness that makes the Matte screens what they are, my experience was bad enough that I decided to live without a screen protector for now. The clarity of text clearly suffered on mine and made it look blurry.