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Best email, contact & calendar provider online for PocketPC users ?

Hello,
I am a PocketPC user, and I want to completely reorganize the way I am using my private emails, contact & calendar !
I would like to manipulate my data (email, contact & calendar), on the PocketPC AND online on the Web.
Which solution email/contact/calendar solution do you recommend me ?
I have listed these solutions (do you know other possibilities ?):
- Google and Zoho PIM suite: The good, it is online and free. The bad is that there is no way to sync them with the PocketPC.
- Microsoft Exchange: The good, it is on the Pocket PC. The bad, it is costs money.
chris

I use Yahoo. Sync device with Outlook; Outlook and device always the same. Outlook syncs with Yahoo contacts, calendar, etc via Intellisync. So I have a nice backup of everything on Yahoo, can still access things on Yahoo mobile or Yahoo full web.
Outlook on Desktop.
pOutlook on Device.
Yahoo Intellisync to sync Yahoo and Outlook.
Sync Device to Outlook, Outlook to Yahoo.
However this takes mental energy to remember which will be the home to the 'correct' info. So if you edit things in Yahoo, on your phone and in Outlook without first syncing everythign, you can run into issues.
I recently moved to a Service Desk software for my business. It is a served application and I just go to the WWW address to get all the info. Interent dependent though...and web browsing is slow when under the gun...

I also know that if you use the Yahoo mobile plugin system that you pretty much just work from within that shell. Its good for some. I guess it is called Y! Go. I had it on my 8125 and it worked well, a bit slow on the 8125.

I didn't know about this Yahoo sync system. I will have a look at it.
If I understand your feedback, what you are missing is: the need to sync your contacts/calendar directly online from your PocketPC. That's right ?
I do agree with you, the best solution would be to be able to sync online all your applications, that ís the application on the PocketPC (POutlook) and the application on the PC (Outlook).
As far as I know, only Microsoft Exchange is offering this possibility. But it costs quite a lot..
Chris

Google Apps and mail2web
I really like googlemail, and actually use google apps for domains to manage a couple of domain names. I've set up Outlook using IMAP to connect to these accounts but do not schedule mail download. This allows me to easily send emails from my account.
I've then set up mail forwarding within googlemail to a free mail2web account, that is in effect Exchange. This is set up as a push account within Outlook(works really well). Within googlemail I have a rule setup to archive mails once they are forwarded, this gives me a clean inbox should I wish to bring up the IMAP connection to view archived mail.

Could anyone using MS Exchange, give a feedback about this solution ?
Nick, why don't you just use your MS Exchange account (mail2web) ? it seems to me that you don't need to have a gmail account.
Chris

With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.

Hosted Exchange would be a nice solution: admitted it costs a few euros per month (6 here) but you get a mailbox which WinMo directly syncs with (without any dirty hacks, plugins and stuff) plus a quite nice webmail/calendaring/collaboration environment (Outlook Web Access).

According to your post, it seems that MS Exchange is actually the only "clean" (=acceptable) way to have the possibility to have your email/contact/calendar on your PocketPC and online.
So, I definitely need to have a look at the offers to see how much it is. Do you know a comparison table of the different companies offering Exchange hosting ?
Nick, i understand now why you still use Google. I do think you can use your own domain with Exchange thought. Maybe not with mail2web.com , but other competitors probably offer this.
How much do you pay for your hosted Exchange ?
spone1, I agree with your conclusion. Which Exchange hosting provider do you use ?
Chris

Mail2web is free!! You may as well sign-up just to see how Push/Active Sync works.
So 95% of the benefits of Exchange (active sync, Outlook Web access etc.) but just no domain hosting. I don't have that many mails that I need to reply to from my domain when I am out and about, so it's really not that big a deal for me to quickly switch accounts when I need to. I'm sure I could get hosted Exchange including a domain or two, but I'd expect it would be between £50 and £100 pounds a year, and wouldn't really give me that much benefit.
But the benefit of having push email is great. ActiveSync does seem to occassional have trouble connecting if my connection type changes through the day. Eg, I connect via WIFI at home, then in the car the phone will pick up 3G, thn by the time I'm at work I'm down to GPRS, at some locations in work I can pick up WIFI again and then for the return journey etc. It can be fixed be manually synchronising to get things running again, but that does kind of defeats the object of push email.
Another alternative is to run your own mail server. It doesn't have to be MS Exchange, there are other that are compatible. But this seems a little like too much hard work without much benefit.

Don't forget that you can use Google with any domain by using Google Apps.
They currently handle MX records for my Domain.

Yeah, Google apps is great, and would be perfect for me if it could handle push email. IMAP isn't the end of the World, just not as slick.
Google apps is my primary mail handler. In effect all mail2web is doing for me is adding push capability

Cloud winmo now
I have a setup that works great for me.
I use a beta (free) service mobipush for push gmail. http://www.mobipush.com/
I use remember the milk for tasks that can be a plugin in google calendar and sync wirelessly with your outlook mobile tasks.
https://www.rememberthemilk.com/
(there is a gadget to add RTM to your gmail screen and intergrated into google calendar.)
I use ogg sync for syncing contacts and calendar.
http://oggsync.com/
Something extra!!!
I also us Jott to add via voice tasks and calendar events to remember the milk and google calendar when I can't type. i.e. when driving.
http://jott.com
This system gives me the cloud experiance of a google phone with the power of a winmo device

I used 4smartphone.net hosted Exchange and before that I'd been using Intellisync for over-the-air sync with Lotus Domino. Intellisync solution was a good one as it provided rather comprehensive sync options. However, I'd been using it few years ago, so I don't really know whether this solution is still available (looks like Nokia had bought Intellisync).
Exchange solution is great for its native support, but lacks few features (like separate folders support and OTA sync for notes).
I think that hosted Exchange 2007 is the preferred option.

Nick-- said:
With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.
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I have my personal domain stuza.com pointing to my mail2web.com account and I love it. Works superbly. I can edit calender/contacts and it changes automaticaly on the mail2web server. Also saves a bucketload of time should you decide to flash your phone - you simply give it your email address and it goes away and autoconfigures the exchange settings and then pulls all your contacts/schedule data down. All my mail comes into [email protected] and goes out from [email protected] .... frickin sweet.
I will never live again without an exchange solution.
edit: dont know if it makes a diference but i have a paid mail2web account

Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1

windows live mail
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.

Xilicon said:
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.
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Okay my age is probably getting in the way, but don't you have to use Outlook to synch calendar? Has there been an upgrade to Windows Live Mail or something else I may be missing?
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1

gottago said:
Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
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Further on funambol.com and to the original poster's request. Funambol has it's own web site that will serve to pull/push email and contacts with GMail. I don't use the calendar on Gmail so I can not address that but Funambol provides you a myfunambol web page that will consolidate your email/contacts as well as any calendar/tasks/notes/briefcase on your PPC. So, in effect, you can go to your myfunambol page and see your email, contacts, calendar, etc. all in one place on the web as well as on your PPC. Funambol provides flexibility as to what it actually synchs so you remain in control. While you can schedule your synch times, it also has the option of synching on a 'push' basis. I will admit that this capability is not necessarily perfect at this point but it is clearly being worked on.
This is a great solution for me as I do not use Outlook (too cheap to buy) or Internet Explorer on my PC. I use Thunderbird/Lightning and Firefox. There is a Funambol plugin for Thunderbird that works well.
NOTE: I have no affiliation with Funambol other than as a user of this one product.
gottago
Sprint Touch w/WM 6.1

Exchange Server email program

I've searched for this particular issue and basically haven't found a solution for the Pocket PC but I know one must be out there. Here's my problem:
I've got two Exchange Server accounts I need to sync on the same device (HTC Fuze, a.k.a. HTC-4600) as well as some POP3 email accounts. However, I specifically do not want to sync the calendar information from either Exchange account. I need a third party program, I'd imagine, to accomplish this.
I've seen where people have said it can't be done but I've been doing this for years on a Treo 650 and Treo 680 using ChatterMail+ application, which does just this. However, that's a Palm OS application and I've moved on to Windows Mobile 6.1. I figure there's got to be something out there similar to ChatterMail (which is only for the Palm OS). With one Exchange Account I've actually got access to the full Outlook integration on the desktop (although I don't want it) and with the other I'm limited to Outlook Web Access anyway.
Does anyone know of any software that can accomplish this on the WM6.1 platform? Any help is appreciated.
By the way, that's two exchange server email accounts (but just the "Inbox" from each - not the calendar, contacts, notes, etc.) on one AT&T Fuze (a.k.a. HTC Raphael 101) while still syncing the calendar, contacts, notes, (Everything but email) with my PC. Anyone got any ideas or am I ignoring some feature of the Fuze?

i believe all you need to do is go into server settings and deselect the calendar sync. also i think from WinMo 5 on we can sync to 2 and up to (i maybe wrong) 4 exchange servers.

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flipfone said:
i believe all you need to do is go into server settings and deselect the calendar sync. also i think from WinMo 5 on we can sync to 2 and up to (i maybe wrong) 4 exchange servers.
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Thanks for the reply, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I didn't explain it very well in the original post but the two exchange servers only allow the OWA interface; they do not have IMAP4 or anything enabled. That program on the PalmOS, Chattermail++ with the Exchange plug-in, allowed those two accounts to sync the email somehow despite the limitations imposed by those exchange servers.
Also, I have to keep calendar checked because I want it to sync with my desktop Outlook calendar (I run my work OS in a virtual machine, so one of my Exchange Server accounts is in Outlook on a VM, that way I keep my personal and work appointments separate). That Chattermail++ did all this, so I'm really looking for a replacement for that program. I've settled on Flexmail4, and the only drawback to that is there's no exchange plug-in to get me into the OWA like on the PalmOS. But, that may have been a one-of-a-kind thing.

ok you can disable calendar in one server and not the other the settings are separate or all servers. but i know nothing about owa settings and syncro. Sorry i cant help ya except maybe you may wish to run a palm emulator so that you can run chattermail? Just a thought, i personally wouldnt want to run that way.Either way please post your findings im interested.

I've been playing around with the two browsers (Opera and IE) included to access OWA. The Opera browser will remember my login credentials for me, which is very handy, but it has a very strange glitch when loading the OWA pages; most of the time it will chop off the top part of the page if you are at all zoomed in (zooming in is mandatory if you want to actually read your email using Opera). The top of the OWA pages, unfortunately, is where "Reply, Reply All, Forward, Delete, etc." commands are located. You're unable to scroll up to them or zoom out to see them, which pretty much makes OWA unusable in Opera. Using IE to access OWA is better since the entire page is accessible. However, the left-hand frame with the "Inbox, Folders, Options, Logoff, etc." menu takes up over half of the screen even on landscape mode. So you've got to click and drag to expand the actual message area. Also, IE does not remember my login settings for OWA which is a pain.
So that's the state of my findings at present. The PPC program "Chronobis" (http://www.chronobis.com/) has got the right idea on the functionality I'm looking for, except it can sync everything but email! That's the kind of functionality (interaction with OWA) that I need for the exchange server email accounts.

Push email on Android

Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.

The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.

Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.

Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.

Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.

I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.

n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.

youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(

I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.

issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?

Some of this needs to be done from a PC......

well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.

ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.

Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!

Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE

Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks

Exchange in new Froyo 2.2 JI6 ROM

It appears that the stock mail client in the new 2.2 ROM has fulll Exchange Support. I was able to do a remote wipe of the device from Outlook Web Access. Once I intiated the wipe on my computer my phone rebooted and formatted itself. I then received the following email:
The remote device wipe has completed successfully.
The remote device wipe you initiated from the Mobile Devices Options page on 10/1/2010 10:16:04 PM is complete.
Device type: Android
Device ID: androidc1773342835
Note: To sync with Microsoft Exchange, you must remove this device from the list in the Mobile Options page.
Otherwise, for security purposes, your device will continue to clear data if you try to sync again.
Also, the stock mail client now has the ability to move email to folders.
Seems to work well.

i cant get my [email protected] to works on push email. it only works with polling.

Some other changes to Exchange email:
Phone numbers in emails are selectable, but not in calendar appointments (still). Now it is no longer possible to go into edit mode on calendar appointments you don't own - so no way to cut/copy/paste phone numbers into dialer.
Still no support for Exchange groups - but google groups work - they have to be created on the computer.
GAL is the same - no way to access phone number (that i can find) only email lookup.
Email search is only on the handheld, not on the server.
PIN lock works, but no way to set time. It seems immediate, so either on or off, but it does take the place of swipe to unlock.
Stock email seems almost as fast as lagfix email - so moving through and deleting is much better then 2.1

Do tasks sync yet? If not, I can't believe it. Why is it so hard to sync tasks?
Also, does this support HTML email? I know touchdown does this but the stock email in 2.1 does not.

rkorzuch said:
It appears that the stock mail client in the new 2.2 ROM has fulll Exchange Support. I was able to do a remote wipe of the device from Outlook Web Access. Once I intiated the wipe on my computer my phone rebooted and formatted itself. I then received the following email:
The remote device wipe has completed successfully.
The remote device wipe you initiated from the Mobile Devices Options page on 10/1/2010 10:16:04 PM is complete.
Device type: Android
Device ID: androidc1773342835
Note: To sync with Microsoft Exchange, you must remove this device from the list in the Mobile Options page.
Otherwise, for security purposes, your device will continue to clear data if you try to sync again.
Also, the stock mail client now has the ability to move email to folders.
Seems to work well.
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I went ahead and updated to the Froyo leak and am now having issues setting back up my Exchange. I removed the devices from the mobile options page.
When I go to setup Exchange on the phone, it successfully re-list my device on the mobile options page but fails on the email setup. Any ideas?
Error: "Setup could not finish: Cannot connect to server"
Mobile Options Page:
"Status: OK
First Sync on: Sun 10/3/2010 3:19 PM
Device ID: validate"

netnerd said:
i cant get my [email protected] to works on push email. it only works with polling.
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You have to use m.hotmail.com as your exchange server address and use your email address as username. You need to do manual setup instead of letting it auto search for it.
BTW, the Froyo email client also takes away the sync schedule and sync size options. There is no way to turn off email sync during night time
On the plus side, you can add more than two exchange accounts now.

If you have email being moved unread on server to specific folders, does it show up on the phone client?
I have folders per person in my company. I have setup rules to automatically move unread messages to their folder. Will these messages show up on my captivate?
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keitht said:
Do tasks sync yet? If not, I can't believe it. Why is it so hard to sync tasks?
Also, does this support HTML email? I know touchdown does this but the stock email in 2.1 does not.
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Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.

alphadog00 said:
Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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That is exactly what I see. If I use Touchdown, it works perfectly so I know it is not my Exchange server. I am using Exchange 2003.

Krad said:
If you have email being moved unread on server to specific folders, does it show up on the phone client?
I have folders per person in my company. I have setup rules to automatically move unread messages to their folder. Will these messages show up on my captivate?
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There is still no setting to control which folder sync automatically. So if I go into my Junk folder - it is empty unless I refresh. When it does sync, the unread emails put in the junk email folder via a rule, show up as unread.

alphadog00 said:
Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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Not really. EAS protocol requires client and server to negotiate protocol versions. If either client or server does not support HTML, Exchange server will strip off all the HTML stuff and send only the plain text email body to the client. So, no, you should never see HTML tags in Exchange client. So the only way to tell if you're reading HTML email is to check out the email with embedded images or different fonts on different part of the email message.

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Not really. EAS protocol requires client and server to negotiate protocol versions. If either client or server does not support HTML, Exchange server will strip off all the HTML stuff and send only the plain text email body to the client. So, no, you should never see HTML tags in Exchange client. So the only way to tell if you're reading HTML email is to check out the email with embedded images or different fonts on different part of the email message.
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I was just trying to get OP to explain why he thinks HTML mail wasn't working under 2.1 - maybe he is using the Exchange client with a non-Exchange server. If you don't see tags, but you do see pictures, there are clickable links that don't look like URLs, and there are colors and shading - then HTML email is working. It worked fine for me in 2.1.
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.

Showstopper - found by Ogar1978 and I just confirmed it.
Forwarding and Reply in Exchange losses all comments that were not part of original email. Althoug i had one reply go through with my comment but not the original text.

alphadog00 said:
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
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It doesn't work that way. I never, through many email clients and mobile phones, receive any emails look like what you described.
HTML email is designed to be backward compatible with plain text email so that the situation where you described will never happen. The main message body is contained in the email text while all the tags, images are attachments. An HTML capable email client will have to re-assembly email text with the attachments to reconstruct the HTML page out.

alphadog00 said:
I was just trying to get OP to explain why he thinks HTML mail wasn't working under 2.1 - maybe he is using the Exchange client with a non-Exchange server. If you don't see tags, but you do see pictures, there are clickable links that don't look like URLs, and there are colors and shading - then HTML email is working. It worked fine for me in 2.1.
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
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I can promise you it is not working for me at all. Not in 2.1 and I just upgraded to 2.2 and still does not work. I can load Touchdown and when I select the "html email" option, I see it exactly as I see it in Outlook with images and all with no tags or URLs. I would use Touchdown but I prefer the integrated email with stock so I will have to deal with it I guess. Attached is an example. I have removed Touchdown so can't prove to you that it does work.

New background colors in mail
This is a nice new feature in 2.2 Froyo... you can change the colors of the background now. Before there was only one choice, now many others. I like dark backgrounds.

Unless you're only reading Chinese or Japanese, you'd better stick to the default white background. Any other color scheme will cause word breaks apart in the middle when ever it reaches the edge.

alphadog00 said:
Showstopper - found by Ogar1978 and I just confirmed it.
Forwarding and Reply in Exchange losses all comments that were not part of original email. Althoug i had one reply go through with my comment but not the original text.
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Deff. a showstopper for anyone trying to use the phone as at a corporate level.
I am going to troll the I9000 boards and see if the froyo they have been running has the same issue and if so if there has been a fix.

keitht said:
That is exactly what I see. If I use Touchdown, it works perfectly so I know it is not my Exchange server. I am using Exchange 2003.
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Exchange 2003 does not support html email via true push. Iphones and touchdown uses a different methods to download emails. I believe they use the owa to download emails differently than stock clients. It is not true push. you need newer exchange 4 true html pushing with stock email clients. Varying of course the client can handle html.
I have noticed that I am still having a problem with emails sent internally that are missing the @domain.com. We have emails generated by web programs that are sent as just the user name. These come to my phone as "null". Very annoying. Can't reply to them without knowing who sent them.
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Can't make my signature right, always puts is in one line even when I editing my signature I have multiply lines.
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[Q] mail client for hotmail - mark mail as read on server

so, i had a hotmail account set up on my htc mail app. mail came through with no problems, but any actions i took on the device didnt get reflected on the server. so if i read/deleted mail on the device, i had to do the same on the web inbox.
i switched to k-9 mail which now deletes mail on the server, but doesnt mark the mail as read once i've read it. something which i do quite often as i use my hotmail for online purchases, and i want to read an invoice but keep it for reference.
does anyone know an app that allows mail thats read on the device to be marked as read on the server?
muchos gracias!

anyone?

reelist said:
anyone?
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My wife has a blackberry and uses hotmail also. I believe the problem lies in the difference between POP3/IMAP. Hotmail connects via POP3 and from what I gather that protocol doesn't involve much more than basically forwarding the messages to your phone. While IMAP (which Gmail is capable of using) allows the syncing of deleted items\read items\etc.

dkelle4 said:
My wife has a blackberry and uses hotmail also. I believe the problem lies in the difference between POP3/IMAP. Hotmail connects via POP3 and from what I gather that protocol doesn't involve much more than basically forwarding the messages to your phone. While IMAP (which Gmail is capable of using) allows the syncing of deleted items\read items\etc.
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I had a blackberry before my android and was able to read and delete mail, mark mail as unread etc and it would be reflected in my hotmail inbox. its really frustrating as having the blackberry allowed me to manage my inbox completely without having to log into my hotmail and now i feel like im going backwards

reelist said:
so, i had a hotmail account set up on my htc mail app. mail came through with no problems, but any actions i took on the device didnt get reflected on the server. so if i read/deleted mail on the device, i had to do the same on the web inbox.
i switched to k-9 mail which now deletes mail on the server, but doesnt mark the mail as read once i've read it. something which i do quite often as i use my hotmail for online purchases, and i want to read an invoice but keep it for reference.
does anyone know an app that allows mail thats read on the device to be marked as read on the server?
muchos gracias!
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Try this:
Setup a new account.
In the first screen, where you write your name and password, hit manual setup. In the next screen, select the last option (Exchange ActiveSync).
In the details put:
Server: m.hotmail.com
Username: your email eg. [email protected]
Domain: leave this blank
SSL: Enable this/use always
Certificate: SSL
It has some additional settings (sync contacts, calendars, etc.), select as needed.
Began testing last weekend after seeing this post. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/349480-post18.html
E-Mail is working good so far, have not used contacts and calendar sync. It pushes messages and syncs them both ways when necessary.

dr_tracker said:
Try this:
Setup a new account.
In the first screen, where you write your name and password, hit manual setup. In the next screen, select the last option (Exchange ActiveSync).
In the details put:
Server: m.hotmail.com
Username: your email eg. [email protected]
Domain: leave this blank
SSL: Enable this/use always
Certificate: SSL
It has some additional settings (sync contacts, calendars, etc.), select as needed.
Began testing last weekend after seeing this post. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/349480-post18.html
E-Mail is working good so far, have not used contacts and calendar sync. It pushes messages and syncs them both ways when necessary.
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so so close!
firstly, thanks for the tip. it seems to be working, but the only issue is that it has constant sync failures. i've only had it up for half an hour or so and have been testing it out, and when it works - it works well. but the syncing issue could be a deal breaker if its not an time-isolated issue. so far i've had to manually instigate the sync when i know theres new mail, or i want to push changes back to the server.
will give it a few days and see. if its still buggy i dont see spending 12 quid on it as getting value for money.

Weird... It's been working perfect so far, maybe it has to do with the OS version you have on your device, I have Cyanogen's 6.1 RC1, Android 2.2.1. Anyway I was looking for a product called Exchange for Android 2.x, but it's $20 and this is not an urgent need for me.
BTW, why you need to expend $12 on this, it's free as far as I can tell