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As a new Android user who is very familiar with the command line and with Linux/Unix environments, I still feel extremely overwhelmed with the amount of 'fixes' and 'root' hacks going around.
I've played with linux for 100's of hours and have broken the install and fixed it...
But this is a phone that bricks, not a computer. I don't like playing "oh I'll just try this and see what happens" with my $400 phone.
Plus I honestly can't determine which one is best for me.
I started this thread so that someone could assist me in creating a guide for what you want to do and what is best to do it.
For example, I want to upgrade to Froyo when it releases.
In the mean time I want to install a lag-fix/ custom rom.
mymansionisabox said:
As a new Android user who is very familiar with the command line and with Linux/Unix environments, I still feel extremely overwhelmed with the amount of 'fixes' and 'root' hacks going around.
I've played with linux for 100's of hours and have broken the install and fixed it...
But this is a phone that bricks, not a computer. I don't like playing "oh I'll just try this and see what happens" with my $400 phone.
Plus I honestly can't determine which one is best for me.
I started this thread so that someone could assist me in creating a guide for what you want to do and what is best to do it.
For example, I want to upgrade to Froyo when it releases.
In the mean time I want to install a lag-fix/ custom rom.
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Do people not know how to read stickies? there are guides and how-to's in this section alone. There are more in the development section. If you don't know how to search a forum, I'm not entirely sure you should be messing with your phone's firmware.
Kaik541 said:
Do people not know how to read stickies? there are guides and how-to's in this section alone. There are more in the development section. If you don't know how to search a forum, I'm not entirely sure you should be messing with your phone's firmware.
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I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
mymansionisabox said:
I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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I think you're in a wrong forum if you want someone to give you any kind of "distilled", spoon-fed info just because you're afraid to mess with your "$400" phone.
Again, to second the other reply, all the info is posted. Just RTFW/S.
mymansionisabox said:
I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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there are tons of guides and they're all condensed. I have to agree with the other poster, if you aren't going to take the time to read and learn what you're doing, don't do it. each sticky offering to help you through all of these processes are there for a reason.
There's the "Pimp My Captivate" thread which is exactly what you say you want. And there have been comparisons of each lagfix by Zilch25, clockwork recovery by Koush is clearly explained in his thread, each ROM is discussed in their own thread.
Ironically, you're asking for a sticky so as to have less stickies. Finding out which ROM you want to use is up to you and if you're not going to take the time to figure out what each tool offers or what each base ROM means, then maybe flashing your phone is something you should steer clear of for now.
If you're afraid of bricking it, just do a Nandroid backup. If something goes wrong, then you can just flash back and it'll be A-OK. If you seriously brick your phone and it's 100% messed up, it's probably because you tried to mess it up.
Hydrocharged said:
If you're afraid of bricking it, just do a Nandroid backup. If something goes wrong, then you can just flash back and it'll be A-OK. If you seriously brick your phone and it's 100% messed up, it's probably because you tried to mess it up.
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Even guys that intentionally tried to brick their phone can't do it. I don't have much to say as it already has. Just take the time to read. There is a condensed version of what you can do to your phone, the pimp my captivate. Otherwise there are many different ways of rooting, lax fixes, firmwares to flash etc...so there is not one thing that you can do that will make your decision easier.
flashman2002 said:
Even guys that intentionally tried to brick their phone can't do it. I don't have much to say as it already has. Just take the time to read. There is a condensed version of what you can do to your phone, the pimp my captivate. Otherwise there are many different ways of rooting, lax fixes, firmwares to flash etc...so there is not one thing that you can do that will make your decision easier.
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don't say that. there have been several confirmed bricks from i9000's using the i897 one-click downloader. While there is no immediate, known, for-certain brick method for your phones... you never know who or what may be the first... always read as much as you can in the threads before you attempt to do anything
As someone who was new to the Captivate scene, but not XDA, just two weeks ago the best advice I can give you is start with the "Pimp my Captivate" PDF file. Read through that and then move forward to other stuff like flashing new firmware and using odin. Trust me you will catch on. I am no move on to working on friends phones for them without any worry of breaking (bricking) them.
Just read, read, read, and sometime read some more. If you have a question about a certain hack, fix, firmware...ect then just ask that question in that thread. Trust me there will be very useful helpful people to answer your questions.
I did what is probably the easiest method. I used unleash the beast and then one click lag fix. That's it and my phone is amazing now. I plan on sitting tight until froyo comes out and whatever the top rom happens to be.
I do appreciate everyone's answers.
Despite that, I really don't understand this particular forum's aversion of being more organized and concise. (imo)
I don't think any of you who told me to read actually understood my intentions of making this post since,although I didn't state it, I have already flashed mods to my Captivate and I have modded my previous phones.
I'm new to XDA so maybe this site is far more trustworthy than where I've been.
I'll check it out and read at least the last 10 pages of each thing that I install.
Thanks though.
Mod please close this thread.
mymansionisabox said:
I do appreciate everyone's answers.
Despite that, I really don't understand this particular forum's aversion of being more organized and concise. (imo)
I don't think any of you who told me to read actually understood my intentions of making this post since,although I didn't state it, I have already flashed mods to my Captivate and I have modded my previous phones.
I'm new to XDA so maybe this site is far more trustworthy than where I've been.
I'll check it out and read at least the last 10 pages of each thing that I install.
Thanks though.
Mod please close this thread.
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we have nothing against being "organized," I just believe your definition of organization is far too complex. You want all the ROMs compared side by side, followed by the tools, and the rooting methods, and the lagfixes and to know which is "best."
Each thing is kept separate from the other because there would be an absolute and definite overload of information in each thread. Look at SRE (a fine example of how to do it properly), he details the result for the end-user and then provides links to where each part of what he did came from. The development section provides a thread on reverting to stock and just that because it should focus on that, rooting can be left for a thread on rooting. SRE shouldn't be tossed into a thread with UTB because they provide different effects.
If you were to compile everything into one big mega-thread, questions would never be answered because there would be far too much crossover. The Pimp My Captivate thread is as good as it gets in that regard, they provide optimizations and suggestions and where to find more information, which is good enough.
I understand.
After this post I am done though, because I'm getting no where with this.
Check out the web page below, this is really what I meant. I can't post links so just close the gap between http:// and ga..
http:// gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/17/osx-netbook-compatib.html
I belong to several forums that had been attempting to put mac osx on netbooks and on one of them a chart of compatibility was compiled, which is similar to what I was suggesting we needed.
Ignore the comments below the chart; that would be unnecessary.
All I was proposing to do was have a locked/stickied thread that only a moderator could change up as new changes/improvements occurred.
Each root/lagfix/rom would have a href connected to their actual thread.
So there would be no need to have comments/ questions asked on that particular page. ****.. it could just be a damn wiki page, but I digress..
If no one thinks that would be beneficial to the community, that is fine.
I don't care, I can easily figure it out myself.
Mod, please close thread.
I want to get started developing for the Shift, any devs out there wanna point me in the right direction as to where I should start? Preferably some Shift specific guides, if there are any... I am not a noob, I have a pretty good knowledge of the Android system.
bilgerryan said:
I want to get started developing for the Shift, any devs out there wanna point me in the right direction as to where I should start? Preferably some Shift specific guides, if there are any... I am not a noob, I have a pretty good knowledge of the Android system.
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Well not sure what your going for. Do you mean Roms, Mods, Themes, Hacks .... . There's a lot of stuff out there that still hasn't been done or can be tweaked. You just have to pick something, and dive in. But if you can let us know which direction your leaning toward. it would help in pointing you in the right direction. HERE is always a good place to start .
prboy1969 said:
Well not sure what your going for. Do you mean Roms, Mods, Themes, Hacks .... . There's a lot of stuff out there that still hasn't been done or can be tweaked. You just have to pick something, and dive in. But if you can let us know which direction your leaning toward. it would help in pointing you in the right direction. HERE is always a good place to start .
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ROMs and porting mostly... I didn't know if you needed to start in one place
You can start with learning dsixda's Android Kitchen. Then check out THIS thread. After that you can check HERE thread. Also you may want to choose an APK editor. Keep in mind that nothing usually goes as planned when Building / Porting a Rom. So I guess one of the biggest things you need when doing a Rom, Mod, or Hack is the ability to work patiently. Plus staying motivated is a big thing. Cause it can get Ugly sometimes . Lastly read, read, and read some more. Ask a ton of questions whenever you can. Hope that helps .
I am fairly lost on the process for updating my nook tablet 16GB to CM7 or CM10. This forum is like an information overload for a noob like me.
Two things I want to accomplish:
(1) Decide on CM7, CM9, or CM10
(2) Once I decide, update my nook
This is going to be a family tablet. Kids (older than 10) might use it a lot. I have read that CM10 is too unstable right now (especially for kids to use). Is this still true? I got the impression from this thread that there may be vast improvements:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877217
Cam someone tell me which version has the best combination of stability/performance? Is CM10 even close yet? Not crazy about the idea of going with gingerbread.
So, once I have decided, its not clear how I should update my nook. Are there simple instructions somewhere?
I'm sorry if I offend with this post, but it needs to be said - to you and the hundreds of other newbies coming on here with similar questions ...
If you can't figure out the basics of what you need to do by reading the information already posted across the existing threads on your device's forums then you should not even consider trying to do anything other than leave it well alone on the 'Stock' build.
The potential to break your nice, new, shiny device and find yourself in a position where you cannot recover it is high unless you are sure what you are doing, and the benefits really aren't enough for what you are trying to achieve.
SimonTS said:
I'm sorry if I offend with this post, but it needs to be said - to you and the hundreds of other newbies coming on here with similar questions ...
If you can't figure out the basics of what you need to do by reading the information already posted across the existing threads on your device's forums then you should not even consider trying to do anything other than leave it well alone on the 'Stock' build.
The potential to break your nice, new, shiny device and find yourself in a position where you cannot recover it is high unless you are sure what you are doing, and the benefits really aren't enough for what you are trying to achieve.
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Your post does not offend me. I think I can figure out the basics. That's not a fair assumption about me. The problem is that I am seeing a lot of info on the web, and it is a little difficult for me to separate what I need from what I don't need. I see a lot of different info about which sd card to use or how the sd card needs to be formatted, etc, etc.
I just need one set of instructions that seems to work for most people.
But that only addresses one of my questions. The other question is whether CM10 is mature enough at this point or not?
Ok so I'm looking to root my HTC M7, I've been told the obvious problem already, I dont know enough yet to be rooting. Sorry, still want to try. That being said, I'm looking for some direction. A good site, a good video, anything or recommendations that will help me out. Yes I have gone to You Tube step by step videos but I always seem to run into a problem. For example, the person in the video says to follow a link below in description, I go and the link is no longer there. Or, maybe its there but takes me somewhere different than described. One of them even changed my browser to AVG (I know, I'm retarded).
Does anyone have any ideas on where to go, where to learn and where it will literally be a step by step?
By the way, the unlocking part seems easy enough. I think its from that point I run into trouble. Also, why? Everyone seems to want to know why. Simple, I would really like to learn for one. Second, I hate the garbage att lays in on me. Id like to mess with the speed (I've heard this is possible) and Id like more choices. I just want to keep the phone interesting. The last reason, I saw yesterday. If its not BS, Id like to get function from my HTC logo.
So I hope this is not to silly for all of you. If so, I do apologize.
Thanks, Chris
root htc m7
have you tried this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...one-m7-and-install-recovery-xda-developer-tv/
Yes, it may sound repetitive but read, read and read it again. There is an incredible amount of knowledge contained throughout this site. Sometimes the smallest mistake/oversight can lead to a huge headache, that's why its so important to have a basic understanding of any modifications you are about to make. Start with the dedicated forum for ur service provider/phone. All the info your going to need will be included in the forum and subsequent sub-forums. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions, we've all been in the same spot before. Use the tools that the site provides, search for your answers and read thru the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2222
Thanks.
Thanks for the help. I did end up finding more help in the dedicated area, especially when I went to my phones forums. Huge thanks for the encouragement. I will deff. read a little more before jumping off the cliff. Looks like the process has become much easier and people are developing all in one tools. Cool stuff, thanks again!
Greetings, all,
I used to be here daily for several months, after the EVO-4G first came out (yea, I know, been awhile).
Anyhow. Back then, the forums were easy to navigate, and everything was centrally located. All the
most important apps had links to them, and all the acronyms were readily described. Life was bliss
for rooting.
Things have changed. I see all the acronyms -- many of them new. But I see little, if any descriptions.
FWIW (For What It's Worth) Odin(1-3) didn't come on my Galaxy S5. I have absolutely no idea what
the acronym means. So I won't be able to make backups (nandroids). So there will no point in my
rooting my phone. Because if something goes wrong. I'll simply throw my $600.00 phone away, and
that's that. Oh but if I did know what Odin(1-3) was, then I would have to figure out what CWM meant.
But luckily, I found out that that means ClockWorkMod. Now, if only XDA provided links to it.
Maybe this sort of information is no big deal to anyone else. Maybe I'm just weird. Maybe everyone
else is happy spending days, sifting through all the information here to find answers to questions
like these. But, in my mind. These [mandatory] applications, and descriptions would be a sticky
at the top of every Forum on XDA. C'mon. Think about it; why would anyone attempt to root,
or modify their phone w/o having/making a backup first? OK. Some might. But really, especially
for new-comers, shouldn't this be mandatory?
Anyway. I've spent ~2 days trying to find answers like these, and am now wondering if there isn't
a better resource some place else. Don't get me wrong. I have a soft spot for XDA. They empowered
me to get my first mobile phone rooted. I couldn't be more grateful. I also appreciate the vast amount
of invaluable information available here. I'm just frustrated that I can't seem to find the most important,
and seemingly trivial information.
Thank you for all your time, and consideration.
--Chris
CTH-EVO said:
Greetings, all,
I used to be here daily for several months, after the EVO-4G first came out (yea, I know, been awhile).
Anyhow. Back then, the forums were easy to navigate, and everything was centrally located. All the
most important apps had links to them, and all the acronyms were readily described. Life was bliss
for rooting.
Things have changed. I see all the acronyms -- many of them new. But I see little, if any descriptions.
FWIW (For What It's Worth) Odin(1-3) didn't come on my Galaxy S5. I have absolutely no idea what
the acronym means. So I won't be able to make backups (nandroids). So there will no point in my
rooting my phone. Because if something goes wrong. I'll simply throw my $600.00 phone away, and
that's that. Oh but if I did know what Odin(1-3) was, then I would have to figure out what CWM meant.
But luckily, I found out that that means ClockWorkMod. Now, if only XDA provided links to it.
Maybe this sort of information is no big deal to anyone else. Maybe I'm just weird. Maybe everyone
else is happy spending days, sifting through all the information here to find answers to questions
like these. But, in my mind. These [mandatory] applications, and descriptions would be a sticky
at the top of every Forum on XDA. C'mon. Think about it; why would anyone attempt to root,
or modify their phone w/o having/making a backup first? OK. Some might. But really, especially
for new-comers, shouldn't this be mandatory?
Anyway. I've spent ~2 days trying to find answers like these, and am now wondering if there isn't
a better resource some place else. Don't get me wrong. I have a soft spot for XDA. They empowered
me to get my first mobile phone rooted. I couldn't be more grateful. I also appreciate the vast amount
of invaluable information available here. I'm just frustrated that I can't seem to find the most important,
and seemingly trivial information.
Thank you for all your time, and consideration.
--Chris
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OK. For me, anyway. Odin is not an option. Seems it's only for use by Windows users.
Maybe ADB?
--Chris