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n00b question

hey before anyone starts flaming me for no search i wanted to apologise beforehand. I did search, this is all foreign to me. I have an mda, interested in the windows mobile 6 platform but theres a few questions i had.
1 being is the processor fast enough to handle the os or is it gonna be even laggier than it is now?
and 2 is there any step by step how to guide from begining to end (with photos preferably), just taking your plain ole out of the box mda and putting windows mobile 6 on it. all this kitchen and cooking and frying, tornados and crossbow code talk doesnt make sense to me. thanks so much for reading, I dont mean to be a newbie about all this stuff, I just want someone who knows what theyre doing to tell me what its all about.

Welcome to the wonderful world of MDA flashing! Ok so you want to take your MDA and load WM6 on it. That is what we reffer to as "flashing, " so anytime you hear someone talk about flashing their device to "Core," "Pandora" or "Crossbow" they mean they are changing the operating system to that paticular "version" of WM6. They are all based off (more or less) the same WM6 ROM but just tweaked with some useful apps, and registry changes. Read about them in the XDA-Wiki page. As far as learning how to flash, there's a "sticky" (a post that remains on the first page) entitled "Howto flash a Wizard... a little tutorial!" Just follow that word for word and you should be fine. It's easy if you just follow the instructions and don't try to jump ahead. Good luck!

follow these directions.. and you should have no problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613. WM6 seems to be a big upgrade.. so i suggest it.. then take a look and see which new ROM you want.. there are many.. if you want just basics you want a Vanilla ROM, i reccomend ANTC's WM6 Professional 3.0.. or if you want fully loaded try Pandora (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310530) or Faria (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762). give it a whirl.. and if you need help, don't hesitate to IM or PM me.
-Nstefanelli-

awesome thanks so much for your help guys. I have a g4 mda, and from what I know i dont have to CID unlock it. im just trying to figure all this out. I dont think its as easy as downloading the rom utility update and downloading the rom... theres a million different tutorials and I dont know which one is the most current or the best. keep the replys coming though i appreciate it.

xvemokidvx said:
awesome thanks so much for your help guys. I have a g4 mda, and from what I know i dont have to CID unlock it. im just trying to figure all this out. I dont think its as easy as downloading the rom utility update and downloading the rom... theres a million different tutorials and I dont know which one is the most current or the best. keep the replys coming though i appreciate it.
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The group does a pretty good job of updating the info as new stuff gets released. Like I said earlier, most of your basic questions will be answered in the XDA-WIKI

see my signature, that's how it should work, no need for CID unlocking
the only "issue" with an G4 is that you only can flash the OS itself.
regards
IRM

cooool, so i got it flashed after trying a million times, but i finally found a version that works, I keep getting errors here and there. last time i flashed it was giving me a checkautorun.exe error. I just flashed farias rom, and when I was doing it with shelltool my mda displayed a few errors which i just pushed ok. also after flashing, i get a dos app thats cmd.exe that i just close and right after i close that, shelltool says its done. it wont say its done UNLESS i close cmd.exe. also having big problems with the contacts. every time i push the contacts button, it never opens. any suggestions?

just got an error that said unexpected error occured in shell attempting to restart.

Are you unlocking your phone first? It might be easier for you to do if you find an unlocking utility for a g4.. or pay the 40 bucks to IMEI-check.com

nope no unlocking. no more silly errors, the only thing i cant do is open my contacts, (or sync them) it just says a device by that name already exists on this maching and i have to rename or be guest. im gonna reflash and see if it helps any. now does anyone know if when using shelltool i need to go back to the original tmo rom and do all that hooplah or can i just flash it like it is now?

I dont understand why you can't open your contacts... do this.. check 'settings' in start menu under 'system' and see if there is a application called 'softkeys' if there is then click on it and see if there is a \contacts.lnk path under the 'Contact'

i dont see contact.

nope, looked in windows folder where all the other .ink files are, and contacts.ink is not there.

it's actually not directly in the windows folder it's in 'windows\appbuttons'
Sorry, I was assuming you looked directly in the 'windows' folder..

ok found it. doing a soft reset now to see if it works...

keep me posted.

well its still doing the same thing... i push the contacts, the start button displays contacts for a second, theres an x in the corner then it just goes back to the normal screen.

hmn.. thats weird.. what happens when you go to 'contacts' from your start menu?

same. well see. I really like the wm6 os. Ive never flashed anything or messed with any phone, so this is all very new to me. I wish there was someone else that flashed a g4 without unlocking it first... grrr. heres something funny, sometimes when I restart it shows the GSM version other times its blank... I dont really care if I brick this phone, last week it was acting up and tmo is sending me a replacement. this was back before i was starting to mess with it, so i got a replacement on the way. lets hope its a g3

Mine does the same thing, sometimes it shows GSM sometimes it doesnt.. Thats pretty common. Yeah I paid to unlock mine, so I have no idea when it comes to a locked device.,

Is there a way to copy contacts from sim to phone, without it being showed repeated?

im asking because for all the contacts manager programs that i download i have to copy the contacts from the sim to the phone so i can get a caller id with their names on the s2u2. but when i copy them all i have them doubled, and i dont wannae delete them them cuz im afraid i can delete them from the sim card, but the case is that i have like 250 contacts and i dont wannae go thru the hassle of deleting them one by one.can anyone provide me with something that can take care of that for me? i saw a program that had it and im trying to l ook for it here but i cant find it. thank you

ok
i know there is someone here that can help me please. thank you

papitomap said:
i know there is someone here that can help me please. thank you
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Well, I figured no one is answering because the answer is all over this board, same as the question has been asked way to many times, I figured the senior members just get irritated.
Well because I don't know what device you are using, but there are plenty of registry tweaks "Hide Sim Contact"
look for it here

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hey, i been searching for the hide sim contact everywhere and i cant find it. i have the t mobile wing, and i have the htc explode plugin with the htc home customizer, if it helps. can you help me please
AND FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS FOR DAYS AND I HAVENT FOUND ANHTHING, THATS WHY IM ASKING FOR IT HERE

O2 Stellar Windows Mobile 6.1 Sliding Home

Hi All,
I have recently downloaded and installed O2 official WM6.1 update to my Stellar, Build 19212.1.0.3. However i do not seem to have the sliding home screen as an option. Can someone please help.
I am also new to this and i have been reading some of the posts. Great site with superb help and advice.
Many Thanks

O2 Stellart WM 6.1 update out
WM 6.1 update is out and not uploaded on XDA-developers
Pretty strange I would say.
Pls upload it for everyone to try
Thanks in advance

O2 Stellar WM 6.1 update out
WM 6.1 update is out and not uploaded on XDA-developers
Pretty strange I would say.
Pls upload it for everyone to try
Thanks in advance

search!!!
dineshh said:
WM 6.1 update is out and not uploaded on XDA-developers
Pretty strange I would say.
Pls upload it for everyone to try
Thanks in advance
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search the forum to find official windows update 6.1, use the search function built in this forum and find kaiser update

O2 Link for WM6.1 update.
New to this site and not familiar on how to upload files. Please see link below.
www.my-xda.com/software_updates.jsp

Unhappy O2 Customer
Myself and my partner also recently updated our roms on our O2 Xda stellar, The flash went well for both of us, it was the after effect of realising there is no sliding home screen with the O2 release of this rom.
Im going through every file on our phones trying to see if its just hidden?
but so far nothing has turned up.
If anyone has managed to find a way to enable the sliding home screen please will you get in contact with me and post it here for everyone please.
Thank you
Simon Tasker

Hello there
I understand that the sliding panel home screen is available on non-touch smartphonedevices, although you may read it as a realse component of WM6.1. Bad wording I guess as it is a little confusing.
Regards.

Thanks
Thank you for the fast reply,
I feel slightly cheated by this but hey thats the way it goes. it would be quiet difficult for it to work with the size of the screen on the stellar but it would still of being a nice addition.
Thank you again for the response.
Simon Tasker

Well, to be honest I replied to this as I too was wondering where this feature was.
But hey, look at it this way, you have not lost any features!
In fact, since I got my XDA Stellar in nov 07 I have been using SPB Pocket Plus which offers more flexibility than what I believe Slidin home offers. Check out the Tabs on which you can add any file, program or even a whole plugin as I have the HTC Home plugin.
I've not seen first hand what Sliding Panel is like but Im very satisfied with this set up on mine and maybe this is helpful for you in achieving the same flexibility of customisation and personal taste. All of what you see is just from Pocket plus being ticked in the today screen items collection list.

Ok stupid question as there doesn't seem to be a manual for this on the XDA site.
When installing this, does it over-write any files? ie am I going to have to re-install and re-configure all my software? I just want to know before I do this while away from a net connection.

Cavey.co.uk said:
Ok stupid question as there doesn't seem to be a manual for this on the XDA site.
When installing this, does it over-write any files? ie am I going to have to re-install and re-configure all my software? I just want to know before I do this while away from a net connection.
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installing what? a program or flashing a rom?

nm
cotc2001 said:
I'll try this later tonight - I presume that with a rom upgrade all installed programs will be wiped. Whats the best way to save the programs so that I don't have to go through installing them again (if thats possible)
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dg252 said:
Indeed...everything is wiped and all the data too.
I used SPB Backup which worked well in the end. I made a few mistakes during the restore process that made it much more of a time consuming headache than it should have been but I think I got back to where I want to be. Ringtone assignments and contact picture assignments were not restored but that may have been my error rather than the fault of the software.
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Sure, I have backup software, but I shall look at this as an opportunity to flash and re-install. Had just better make sure I do all required syncing first
thesire said:
installing what? a program or flashing a rom?
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The new ROM. On the O2 site it implies it won't nuke your stuff. Sure it says...
In order to ensure that important files and data do not go missing from your Xda during the software download process, please save them to your PC first before you begin. You'll then be able to reload them onto your device after the software download process is complete.
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but that could be read as it might go tits up and break your files, but you'll otherwise be ok. It also doesn't mention 3rd party applications.

Cavey.co.uk said:
nm
Sure, I have backup software, but I shall look at this as an opportunity to flash and re-install. Had just better make sure I do all required syncing first
The new ROM. On the O2 site it implies it won't nuke your stuff. Sure it says...
but that could be read as it might go tits up and break your files, but you'll otherwise be ok. It also doesn't mention 3rd party applications.
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Whenever you flash a new ROM the handset gets formatted. Any data on the handset will be lost. If you want to keep anything, transfer it to the memory card first......

Android on the HTC Tornado "Not Fully Working Yet"

Here are some pictures of android running on my htc tornado, all thanks go to the guys at wing-linux, there the creators of this masterpiece.
Screenshots:
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_001.jpg
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_004.jpg
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_007.jpg
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_009.jpg
Files that need to be Downloaded:
wing-linux-0.4pre4.zip
After your done downloading this installed only these 2 cabs in your storage card:
1.wing-linux-0.4pre4-rootfs.cab
2.wing-linux-0.4pre4-excalibur.cab
Sorry for the big ass pics xD, took them with my touch pro dint resize them
BTW:buttons are all messed up,join wing-linux darkstar or ali1234 might have an answer for ya.
Edit: Im currently working on the keymapping's, give me some time and i will fix the keys(thanks darkstar69)

It's sounds good. We are waiting for a full release!!

Does it delete the filesystem of the sd card?

keep it up..... w8in for da final version =)

RogerrrT said:
Does it delete the filesystem of the sd card?
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Selfquote: full of crashes but sms are working! Thanks

Installed it but I don't know how to unlock the keypad

democron said:
Installed it but I don't know how to unlock the keypad
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Press volume up(home),thats the only key that works properly, until i get the mapping figured out.

rafyvitto said:
Press volume up(home),thats the only key that works properly, until i get the mapping figured out.
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Or turn off the PIN code from the Windows Mobile's settings
Edit: maybe there was a way to reboot to WinMobile by Android... Every time i must remove the battery and re-set the date/time

RogerrrT said:
Or turn off the PIN code from the Windows Mobile's settings
Edit: maybe there was a way to reboot to WinMobile by Android... Every time i must remove the battery and re-set the date/time
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well your lucky it even boots, dont expect this release to be any were near usefull, this is more like a alpha release

siulmagic said:
well your lucky it even boots, dont expect this release to be any were near usefull, this is more like a alpha release
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I know... I tried to install another Linux previously on my Tornado... And when i start the Haret application for Android it shows me the bootloader with 2 choices!

if you want more info on the android progress read the post in the excaliber forum.

wa! pro!
GSM works full? or only texting?

With PIN disabled, i've also received a sms message
I tried to send a sms (some random chars 'cause the not full supported key layout) and the destination phone has received it

---Please cancel

oh wow! calling doesnt work? and is there any way to inject the keypad drivers atleast?

Can we use WM interchangeably with Android?

rafyvitto said:
Here are some pictures of android running on my htc tornado, all thanks go to the guys at wing-linux, there the creators of this masterpiece.
Screenshots:
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_001.jpg
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_004.jpg
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_007.jpg
http://rafymercenario.googlepages.com/IMAGE_009.jpg
Files that need to be Downloaded:
wing-linux-0.4pre4.zip
After your done downloading this installed only these 2 cabs in your storage card:
1.wing-linux-0.4pre4-rootfs.cab
2.wing-linux-0.4pre4-excalibur.cab
Sorry for the big ass pics xD, took them with my touch pro dint resize them
BTW:buttons are all messed up,join wing-linux darkstar or ali1234 might have an answer for ya.
Edit: Im currently working on the keymapping's, give me some time and i will fix the keys(thanks darkstar69)
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And, what? What's state of work?

it's interesting and make me to delay my decission to change my tornado with an expensive hero. please repair the keyboard, thanks so much

Doesn"t work on my Tornado (( There is only screen with green lines...

I have problem with joystick. When I push it down it moves, eg. UP LEFT RIGHT CENTER. For example. It makes Android unusable. Anybody also have that problem?

Few questions! (Verizon w/MightyROM & DuskTheme)

Okay I've done alot to customize this phone and I love the end results. Just a few things bug me that I'm not sure there's a solution for. I've tried searching but didn't find anything helpful.
1. I installed Sprite Backup and even though the program works flawlessly, I've not only backed up data but restored as well, EVERY time I do a soft reset on my machine I get this error message saying something about SpriteStart.exe could not be opened. Yet I manually open it and it works. I tried their site and they say to reinstall. I've done that more than once, same issue.
2. On the screenshot attached, I really love this ROM/Theme/TF3D setup but I did all the tweaks to stop the internet push concept. I'd really like to remove any reference of it from this as well. Any ideas where in the registry I'd edit that or a CAB to do so that's already out there?
3. I also installed the inbox extender and I love it. I'm wondering if there's a way to set it into the menu in TF3D so I don't have to actually choose "Inbox" and go there to mark all messages read. It's an extra step that's kind of annoying for me.
I think that's all for now. Any help would be appreciated.

dsera said:
Okay I've done alot to customize this phone and I love the end results. Just a few things bug me that I'm not sure there's a solution for. I've tried searching but didn't find anything helpful.
1. I installed Sprite Backup and even though the program works flawlessly, I've not only backed up data but restored as well, EVERY time I do a soft reset on my machine I get this error message saying something about SpriteStart.exe could not be opened. Yet I manually open it and it works. I tried their site and they say to reinstall. I've done that more than once, same issue.
2. On the screenshot attached, I really love this ROM/Theme/TF3D setup but I did all the tweaks to stop the internet push concept. I'd really like to remove any reference of it from this as well. Any ideas where in the registry I'd edit that or a CAB to do so that's already out there?
3. I also installed the inbox extender and I love it. I'm wondering if there's a way to set it into the menu in TF3D so I don't have to actually choose "Inbox" and go there to mark all messages read. It's an extra step that's kind of annoying for me.
I think that's all for now. Any help would be appreciated.
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Okay, let's see what we have here...
1. Sprite Backup still doesn't "officially" support WM 6.5. So, there might be some sort of inherint problem there at the moment (although I know of a lot of people that have it running fine on 6.5). If you're able to manually do a backup/restore fine, it sounds like you might have a scheduled or automatic backup set? If so, try disabling any scheduled backup and soft reset. Do you still get the error after that? Also, when you uninstalled it to reinstall, did you remove every instance of the program, then soft-reset, then reinstall?
2. Do you think your pages are still being pushed, or do you just want to get rid of the push page links on the internet tab within manila? If you like, and if you already disabled push internet, you can set up your push pages as just "favorites" and set the push frequency to "never".
3. This one has actually been asked many times before. Unfortunately no one has come up with a solution yet. It's not an issue where you can simply edit a manila file, rather it's buried in an .exe or .dll (to the best of my knowledge).
Let me know if any or all of that makes sense. Good luck!

May I ask what Dusk files you used? I'm also using MightyROM w/ my Verizon TP2, but I was constantly getting freezes and flashed back to just MightyROM.

reddog093 said:
May I ask what Dusk files you used? I'm also using MightyROM w/ my Verizon TP2, but I was constantly getting freezes and flashed back to just MightyROM.
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It appears to be this one.

rotation
how do i get the screen to rotate horizontally without opening the keyboard?
thanks.

It is that one but with Spike's taskbar.
Thanks for the replies guys. I ended up flashing the Mighty ROM from scratch and reinstalling the theme leaving Sprite backup off. I'll just manually sync with my desktop.
The push issue, yeah I just wanted that to not show on the internet manilla. I guess I could create my 2 most used sites and set to never push on those. Thanks!!!

One other thing:
Since I'm on Verizon, I realize that my taskbar icon shows EV instead of 3G but I don't like it. If anyone has a workaround for changing it back, let me know.

defiantone said:
how do i get the screen to rotate horizontally without opening the keyboard?
thanks.
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Trying to steal the OP's thunder by hijaking the thread? Tsk tsk... for shame.
Download and install Gyrator.

dsera said:
One other thing:
Since I'm on Verizon, I realize that my taskbar icon shows EV instead of 3G but I don't like it. If anyone has a workaround for changing it back, let me know.
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That network indicator is actually built into the custom taskbar you installed. If you'd prefer it showing 3G, you'll need to install a taskbar that has that instead. If I can find a good one, I'll post a link.
Regarding not using Sprite backup anymore, have you ever tried using Microsoft's My Phone, or there's also Dashwire, or PIM Backup too. All easy to use and all work great.
edit: Also, I believe it's tapres.192.dll that includes the network icons. So if you just want to change that icon, this is the file you'd need to replace/edit.

I actually have PIM Backup and use it all the time but just for my text messages. I guess I was wanting a full system backup so that when I screw it up playing in the registry like I did earlier today, I can just restore from backup and it be back to where it is right now... maybe I'm not being realistic.
And the icon is built into the taskbar? I didn't realize that. Does it matter what taskbar I use as long as it's meant for Manilla 2.1 and WM 6.5?

dsera said:
I actually have PIM Backup and use it all the time but just for my text messages. I guess I was wanting a full system backup so that when I screw it up playing in the registry like I did earlier today, I can just restore from backup and it be back to where it is right now... maybe I'm not being realistic.
And the icon is built into the taskbar? I didn't realize that. Does it matter what taskbar I use as long as it's meant for Manilla 2.1 and WM 6.5?
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No, you're not being unrealistic at all. Check out My Phone or Dashwire. both can backup pictures, texts, contacts, etc. I personally use My Phone... good stuff.
If you have the taskbar you used, post it. I'm no artist (really, far from it), but I can see if I can tear apart the .dll and try to edit it. No promises that I'll succeed though.
You did want it to say 3G, right?
edit: Sorry, regarding the question about it mattering what taskbar you use. Since WM 6.1 and 6.5 have different taskbar layouts, they aren't compatible with each other. Manila versions won't matter.

TaurusBullba said:
Trying to steal the OP's thunder by hijaking the thread? Tsk tsk... for shame.
Download and install Gyrator.
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Thanks so much for the quick reply..

TaurusBullba said:
No, you're not being unrealistic at all. Check out My Phone or Dashwire. both can backup pictures, texts, contacts, etc. I personally use My Phone... good stuff.
If you have the taskbar you used, post it. I'm no artist (really, far from it), but I can see if I can tear apart the .dll and try to edit it. No promises that I'll succeed though.
You did want it to say 3G, right?
edit: Sorry, regarding the question about it mattering what taskbar you use. Since WM 6.1 and 6.5 have different taskbar layouts, they aren't compatible with each other. Manila versions won't matter.
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Here's the taskbar. I grabbed it in the middle of one of the Dusk threads here but I can't find it now or I'd just point you to the post instead.
http://www.ppc-files.net/HTC%20Touch%20Pro/TF3D/TaskBar/
It's this one:
Spike's_ MicNeo_TaskBar_Varient_3_v2_MIGHTYMIKE_CDMA_FIX.cab
and Yes I love everything about it except that it shows EV instead of the 3G icon. I live in the stix and waited forever to sit at my house and see that little 3G on my phone so I realize it's silly but I still want it if possible. Thank you so much!

dsera said:
Yes I love everything about it except that it shows EV instead of the 3G icon. I live in the stix and waited forever to sit at my house and see that little 3G on my phone so I realize it's silly but I still want it if possible. Thank you so much!
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Haha, that is a funny (just a little). Seeing EV isn't quite as satisfying as seeing 3G when you're on the "BIGGEST 3G NETWORK" in the country!!!
Anyhow, after a little doing, this is what I came up with. Just install it (don't uninstall your current taskbar, this just adds to it) and then soft-reset. If it doesn't work for you, let me know.
Enjoy your 3G coverage... errr... icon.

TaurusBullba said:
Haha, that is a funny (just a little). Seeing EV isn't quite as satisfying as seeing 3G when you're on the "BIGGEST 3G NETWORK" in the country!!!
Anyhow, after a little doing, this is what I came up with. Just install it (don't uninstall your current taskbar, this just adds to it) and then soft-reset. If it doesn't work for you, let me know.
Enjoy your 3G coverage... errr... icon.
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Just installed it and it worked. The 3G icon should be in red correct? Thank you so much!

Yep, like "Big Red" (Verizon). You're welcome!

dsera said:
I actually have PIM Backup and use it all the time but just for my text messages. I guess I was wanting a full system backup so that when I screw it up playing in the registry like I did earlier today, I can just restore from backup and it be back to where it is right now... maybe I'm not being realistic.
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I actually use and have used SPB Backup for quite some time--and it can and does all that, and then some. All though Sprite and even MyPhone are great, I have come to rely on spb backup.
You can do full or custom backups AND restores of PIM, Emails, Documents, System Data and Storage Cards. There's also a handy little sync tool so you can keep your backup .cab's auto-magically suncconfused to your desktop(or laptop). You can also restore in three different modes: New Device, New ROM, OR standard. And there's also a backup scheduler.
However, it's not free ($24, and sometimes they offer a promo code around the holidays), and as I write this I'm also on MightyROM(11.16.09) with what seems like two files from the windows library that have problems backing up--but the backups do fully restore, and I've yet to have any issues because those two files won't release during backup. Caveat Emptor.