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So I will try to organize this thread so most important stuff (request) is on top, and my rant/explanation of why I want this done will follow. Warning: I know I tend to use a lot of run-on sentences...I'm just long winded
Attached are two stock (I presume) .apk's that I pulled out of Cyanogen's ROM that I have installed on my stock 2.1 ROM. I prefer these two apps vs. the HTC versions, but each have one small issue.
1) - DeskClock.apk will FC if you hit the Music shortcut. I am assuming that this is something simple, like it's trying to call up the wrong program? Can this be written to launch the HTC Music App, hopefully eliminating the FC?
2) - Gallery3D will FC if you try to launch the camera from within the app. I am once again assuming (more hoping, really) that it's trying to launch a camera app that doesn't exist in the stock ROM. Can this be written to launch the HTC Camera app, hopefully eliminating the FC?
I would try myself, but after downloading and installing Eclipse, JRE and the Android plug-in, I still feel like this is over my head at this point, as all I have is very limited Visual Basic experience. Would someone mind doing me a favor and updating those apps are reposting them in this thread so that myself and other like me can use those on our stock 2.1 ROMs? It would be much appreciated
Now for the rant:
I see a lot of people with differing opinions on HTC's Sense. Personally, this is my first Android phone, and I have found that I actually like SOME of the Sense apps. I dont really have a problem with the launcher (though I have replaeced it with ADW.Launcher), and I feel that apps such as People, Camera, and Phone are somewhat superior to what I presume are the stock Contacts, Camera and Phone apps, respectively. And then I wonder why HTC created some of the other apps they did that seem somewhat....lacking.
1) The "Photos" app is very boring and plain. I mean, I appreciate the Flickr and Facebook integration (which would be useful IF I used them), but why could they not have just added this functionality to the already awesome 3D Gallery? I would rather use the stock Gallery app, and even though the file I attached (see:Gallery3D.apk) doesn't have a functioning camera botton, I still prefer it to the Photo app. Plus, it pulls in my Picasa photo albums
2) The DeskClock app HTC included on the incredible is fine for the most part, but I don't like the small clock font and the fact that it takes FOREVER to launch, whereas the stock DeskClock.apk is instant to load, has a much larger font, and does other things I like better; like keeping my wallpaper visible, and is softer to the eye. Once again, I appreciate the added features of HTC's clock (Worldclock, Stopwatch, Timer), but I don't use them enough to make me like this program more than the stock one.
So that is why I am asking for those to be edited so they'll run on my stock ROM. At least until we start seeing some FroYo love
Also, if anybody knows, why did HTC replace the Messages app with one that exchanges the ability to set conversation limits (e.g. 200 messages, then auto delete) with one that uses Facebook for contact icons? I still use the HTC Messages app cause I like the pictures transferring over from Facebook (or the People app, which is updated by Facebook, and hence why the People app I like BETTER than stock), but why leave out any message bulk control? Anything over two or three hundred and my phone really starts taking a long time to open the conversation...
Alternately, once CyanogenMod's ROM becomes more stable, I would love to switch to it if I could bring some of the Sense apps along. Those would be:
1) People - with fully functioning updates and photo shortcuts to Facebook and Flickr
2) Camera - I like the added features...and the fact that it already supports 8MP, whereas (as of CM5.0.8 Test1, anyway), the camera app would only do 3MP
3) Phone - again, with correctly synchronizing contact pictures and speed dial, just like in our stock ROM.
I haven't actually tried pulling these out of the stock ROM and installing them in CM5, but I'm assuming I'd run into issues with the Facebook/Flickr sync...
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So I will try to organize this thread so most important stuff (request) is on top, and my rant/explanation of why I want this done will follow. Warning: I know I tend to use a lot of run-on sentences...I'm just long winded
Attached are two stock (I presume) .apk's that I pulled out of Cyanogen's ROM that I have installed on my stock 2.1 ROM. I prefer these two apps vs. the HTC versions, but each have one small issue.
1) - DeskClock.apk will FC if you hit the Music shortcut. I am assuming that this is something simple, like it's trying to call up the wrong program? Can this be written to launch the HTC Music App, hopefully eliminating the FC?
2) - Gallery3D will FC if you try to launch the camera from within the app. I am once again assuming (more hoping, really) that it's trying to launch a camera app that doesn't exist in the stock ROM. Can this be written to launch the HTC Camera app, hopefully eliminating the FC?
I would try myself, but after downloading and installing Eclipse, JRE and the Android plug-in, I still feel like this is over my head at this point, as all I have is very limited Visual Basic experience. Would someone mind doing me a favor and updating those apps are reposting them in this thread so that myself and other like me can use those on our stock 2.1 ROMs? It would be much appreciated
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attached is a gallery apk that doesn't have the camera issue. and also I attached the stock music apk that is need for deskclock.
Anything from Sense requires the htc framework which you are not going to find in any Cyanogen or vanilla ROM and there is no work around.
The vanilla DeskClock apk (with working music button) and 3D Gallery (with working camera button) already exist in other threads in this forum. Just search for them. You will also find both of those apps in any plain vanilla or cyanogen rom that is made.
As for the phone and contacts, the vanilla ones are much better imo than sense. You will not miss the lag.
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Thanks jitajt! Those fixed my problems. Im getting to the point where I'm fairly satisfied with everything about the phone. Just got Hydra's OCUV+N kernel installed and it's working great.
I have the opposite request of this thread actually; I need the HTC DeskClock files from a stock 2.1 sense ROM. Would anyone be able to post it please? Thank you in advance!
I miss having the timer and stop watch functionality that comes with it. My laundry always winds up sitting in the washer and dryer far too long without me setting a timer
Hello. I did a search for AOSP DeskClock and this is the only promising thread I found. I'm using an HTC CDMA Hero. Does anyone know if this is or isn't safe for me to use?
Also, do I just push to /system/app?
I don't know about you guys.. but the sense gallery loads up MUCH FASTER than this gallery 3D. UNINSTALLED
I have both apps in my rom and are runing fine
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Camera FC
Hey Thanks jitajt!
I've been trying to get this to work on my samsung spica for a few days now.
But now the camera button (upper right) is giving me an FC error. It's because the camer app I have is SamsungCamera.apk NOT the stock camera app.
Could you provide the stock camera.apk for android 2.1?
Thanks.
I have recently moved from a Palm Pre to a G1... so please be nice!
Is there a way to replace the actual dialer on this thing? I hate having to hit menu every time I want to do simple things like turn the speakerphone on and off. Is there an alternative dialer that can be installed to replace the one that my CM 6.0 RC1 ROM came with?
And in similar vein, is there a tool that has can apply various tweaks etc. to the OS? Kind of like Preware for WebOS or Advanced Configuration Tools for WM...
If you are on CM6 RC1 then you can go to Settings>Call Settings and check the Touch UI for a better interface.
Download Dialer One.
I really like aContacts. It's one of my favourite apps so far. Far better than the stock address book and dialer.
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If you are on CM6 RC1 then you can go to Settings>Call Settings and check the Touch UI for a better interface.
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try this before you download new dialers it's head over heels better that stock (oh and select left handed mode for a less annoying hold button)
and nothing like preware all those things are built into adw launcher cyanogen settings and spare parts. themes and stuff are found here on xda
Do you know how to integrate or replace default dialer with aContacts? I removed the standard dialer in my rooted X10 and now when I had a missed call and wanted to view it, it said 'Application can't launch standard dialer. Please contact with developer.
Cheers.
Jenga said:
I really like aContacts. It's one of my favourite apps so far. Far better than the stock address book and dialer.
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SENSE VERSION IS OUTDATED AND DOES NOT WORK I WILL UPDATE ON OWN TIME
note it's more like galaxy s but i was under the impression they were the same style so i'll be updating it again with the actual epic4g ones
will have to do that tomorrow as Wednesday i gotta get school stuff and Thursday school starts for me so i will be cutting back on all this and focusing more on my school work but will still find some time to do things
What it Does
Themes the following
check boxes
volume indicator (Green)
taskbar (Grayish)
all taskbar icons -BT, wifi, 3g, battery, 4g
menu selections (Blueish)
themes apps
adds touchwizz launcher (thanks to rolle)
Things to work out
the location service icon has been removed but still takes up a space in the taskbar (i do not know how to remove that so any help would be nice)
some text fields have an issue
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DOWNLOADS
please read this
[SENSE VERSION ONLY] Okay so apparently if you do not flash this first and boot the system at least once the contacts will not show up and neither will the dialer (at least fully themed)
please flash this boot system then flash the theme
if you already have the theme you can flash this but will not have the full dialer
Contact Fix
For 2.2 Sense Roms
All With Media
All Without Media
Apps
Media (Ringtones/Notifications)
Theme Alone
For OTA such as fresh 3.2.0.0
OTA Theme Only
OTA Media (Ringtones/Notifications)
**flashing apps from above causes bootloop** please be pacient looking into it
*Themed Android Keyboard in attachments at bottom of post*
just install as normal apk and enable in settings
Settings > Language & Keyboard > Check off "Android Keyboard"
go to text box
hold until popup appears
choose input method
select "android Keyboard"
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CyanogenMod 6.1.1
Apps and Theme
Apps
Theme Only
After Flashing theme goto
Settings > CyanogenMod settings > User interface > Tweaks extras > Select a theme > and Choose "Epic4g"
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Credits
samsung for making the original theme
and of course all the devs who make roms for us
and me for putting together the zip for evo[/SIZE]
Screenies?
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awesome love it, like i was saying in the other topic, if you could just get the icons moreup to date to the actual epic gtalk, market, maps etc.. i would love it so much more. im just reallly ocd on the look of my phone, and i just realllly do not like the current icons even for the cm6 theme, just something about them.
and I know sense is a mess compared to stock android, but what is the chance of getting things like the dialer?
and lastly ( i know lots of q. but I LOVE the epics look) any chance of getting some of the epics sounds, like when you click on something on the epic the clicking sound instead of the evos?
screen shots would be very helpful
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Screenies?
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khaag27 said:
screen shots would be very helpful
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sorry forgot to upload them
but delivered
samrozzi said:
awesome love it, like i was saying in the other topic, if you could just get the icons moreup to date to the actual epic gtalk, market, maps etc.. i would love it so much more. im just reallly ocd on the look of my phone, and i just realllly do not like the current icons even for the cm6 theme, just something about them.
and I know sense is a mess compared to stock android, but what is the chance of getting things like the dialer?
and lastly ( i know lots of q. but I LOVE the epics look) any chance of getting some of the epics sounds, like when you click on something on the epic the clicking sound instead of the evos?
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and i will look into the actual epic 4g icons tomorrow along with getting some of the sound files off of it too
Puffin, you did a DAMNED good job porting this theme. Kudos
Sense download didn't work for me
khaag27 said:
Sense download didn't work for me
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if your downloading directly from the evo
4shared for some reason has a problem with the evo
now you can still download it
just change to mobile version and download (might be the other way around and have to be desktop version)
and with that last piece of help i must sleep it's 12:30 AM yawn
if only we could get the best part of the touchwiz interface, the notification panel. this looks pretty nice though, be great for a senseless rom.
Got some boot looping (sense version). I wiped before flashing too. I did download to my computer then I transfered to SD card. Maybe its just my phone....
Very nice work though! Thanks!!! Ill keep my eye on the thread.
When can we expect the cm6 version?
wsantiagow said:
Got some boot looping (sense version). I wiped before flashing too. I did download to my computer then I transfered to SD card. Maybe its just my phone....
Very nice work though! Thanks!!! Ill keep my eye on the thread.
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what rom are you using?
ekt8750 said:
When can we expect the cm6 version?
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i am actually focusing on the sense version atm but download mrcharlesiv's from his post i am basing mine off of his with few changes
changes being a little further themed
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also will have an update later today if not tomorrow with a few changed things
and added a themed dialer and contacts (keeps original dialer also)
added media folder so has ringtones and notifications from epic (optional)
and i'm gonna set it up to remove some apk's like htc music, htc clock, htc lockscreen and mail as they are just duplicates and not needed to have multiple of them
will keep htc gallery as it links with camera
Great work on the theme. I love this when I was on cm6 and missed it when I switched to Fresh. I have a couple of questions though. How would I make the notifications bar clear, when you pull it down? Is ther anyway to get the the battery with the number read out like the cm6 rom?
Is there a way to load this without all the AOSP apps?
yeah the galaxy s notification bar would be amazing, but seems hard, i just would prefer an updated icon pack.
samrozzi said:
yeah the galaxy s notification bar would be amazing, but seems hard, i just would prefer an updated icon pack.
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well i did put out an update just now
the app icons are not really changed from what they were (as they are the same as epic with some from the galaxy) and the galaxy s notification bar with the shortcuts is beyond my knowledge so i didn't do that
things changed
removed htc lockscreen (now vanilla lock)
removed htc clock
removed htc deskclock
removed htc Music
removed Mail (still have Email though)
removed htc contacts (People)
kept Htc Gallery as it links to camera
added epic4g themed dialer/contacts
added media as requested (from epic 4g system dump)
changed a few icons but almost all are the same
and i think thats all hope i didn't leave anything out
EDIT: looking into putting the Stock Android Browser in it +themed (i Can NOT stand the sense browser) -ACCOMPLISHED
EDIT2: apperently i can only get the contacts and dialer to show up if i flash something else first then flash this over it so i'm kinda stumped so i'm trying to get that fixed up
I HATE ISSUES LIKE THIS!
they do work but have to be installed differantly (contacts and phone)
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CM6 release is gonna push back a little as flashing it causes battery to display as just a question mark battery on nightly 9/7
i was wondering, say i apply the all theme and you have an update later, can i just flash the update over the current one? or will doing that mess it up?
also i tried flashing the theme over fresh's new 2.2 rom and no go. just keeps cycling at the fresh evo boot screen
samrozzi said:
i was wondering, say i apply the all theme and you have an update later, can i just flash the update over the current one? or will doing that mess it up?
also i tried flashing the theme over fresh's new 2.2 rom and no go. just keeps cycling at the fresh evo boot screen
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yeah good times gotta fix it for fresh 3.2 and gotta fix the contacts issue and gotta school shop and gotta do some extra work at home haha
i'll see what i can do today
(i tested and built around 3.1.0.2)
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yeah good times gotta fix it for fresh 3.2 and gotta fix the contacts issue and gotta school shop and gotta do some extra work at home haha
i'll see what i can do today
(i tested and built around 3.1.0.2)
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Mine is built off the new OTA.. Did mine flash on the older Fresh? I wonder what changed w/ the new release?
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Mine is built off the new OTA.. Did mine flash on the older Fresh? I wonder what changed w/ the new release?
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alright i have at least the theme and media out now for OTA but flashing apps causes boot-loop
and i have been on cyanogenmod recently so i did not follow sense Roms and was unaware that an OTA was released
i have several problems in the theme that i have separate fixes for but i am hoping to get it incorporated into the actual theme later on
and now that there is an ota i will focus on that rather then the older one but will at least fix it when i have time
and with this update on progress i'm gonna take a break for a while
Looking really nice. I was wondering, is it possible to just pull the App drawer from the Epic4G/Galaxy S to replace the one in Sense? I like the horizontal scrolling for apps, but would like to stick to Sense for everything else. What do ya think?
Hi, I was just wondering if it would be possible to replace the sense phone.apk with the default android one. I have s-off and root but I'm not sure if just switching the apk would break the phone?
Thanks in advance
You can't brick your phone. Install the default android launcher .apk, press the home button, select it. Then remove the stock launcher.
hey sorry not the launcher apk i mean the call one that pops up when you are in a call. It has a white background and a picture of a green android thing with the name or number of the person you are calling.
Ive heard that this is the phone.apk but it is tied into more than just the dialer app so replacing it could have bad effects on the phone.
As far as I know that phone.apk does not exits. Its included in the launcher. And at a second thought, I believe that that dialer would pop up in potrait mode, not in landscape so you would rotate your phone to see the number. Try the free launchers avaible in Android Market.
danuzor said:
As far as I know that phone.apk does not exits. Its included in the launcher. And at a second thought, I believe that that dialer would pop up in potrait mode, not in landscape so you would rotate your phone to see the number. Try the free launchers avaible in Android Market.
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hello, the launcher has nothing to do with the dialer!!!
i use awd launcher but the dialer & contacs are still from the stock rom!
- Ahem, may I?
First of all the launcher is an application that represents a shell which displays your usability options. Let's make some comparisons as it's easier this way.
Imagine that your phone is a PC running Windows. Now, if you don't have the explorer.exe process running, which is a shell, you won't have the task bar, start button, icons on the desktop, can't access programs/games, etc. Your options are very limited and you cannot use almost any features, except the fact that since it's an OS based on different applications, the dialer screen will appear when receiving a phone call, alarm clock will be displayed and so on.
So basically you only need the Launcher to see the list of applications and to be able to run them. That's about it. The themes on the other hand, affect the icons, wallpaper and launcher's graphics. That's it.
Every other application has it's own graphics and appearance style.
*the text below is an assumption*
As for the screen you are trying to remove/clear, well that's a different problem. It might be the dialer application that has this screen and without the application you won't be able to dial any numbers and cause a various number of problems.
*the text above is an assumption*
- Thank you for your attention.
I think I will just have a go at replacing it and keep a backup in cwm in case something goes wrong. I'll let you guys know how it goes
themickman007 said:
I think I will just have a go at replacing it and keep a backup in cwm in case something goes wrong. I'll let you guys know how it goes
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Replacing it shouldn't break anything. Removing it, will.
Gave it a go by replacing the sense phone.apk with the one from cm7 in the zasa build but all it did was create a force close loop.
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
There is enough room for one on the bottom but they only put 3.
What happens now is that Android (or Sense or something) detects when there are menu options and puts a button on the screen for it taking away real estate from the application.
No trackball
I used this a lot on my G2 especially on web pages with small links that I didn't want to missclick. I already miss it. I also used the trackball wake feature in CM on my G2. Now there is only one way to turn the screen on and its a little hard to do one handed. The trackball was in a very natural position to turn on with your thumb. Now without it, it is very awkward to power on with your thumb, you have to hold it very high and I'm affraid of dropping it. Alternatively I could turn it on with my index finger but it spreads my hand way out and still feels weird.
No folders
I'm not sure if this is an ICS thing or a Sense thing (because this phone is an unholy bastardization), but I can't figure out a way to create folders on my home screens. I'm not talking about the Sense folders for applications either. In normal Android builds you can add shortcuts, widgets, folders. The Pandora application shipped with a folder called "My Stations" or something like that. I used this because it only took up 1x1 on a homescreen and let me choose which station was opened. Without it, you need to open the application and it immediately starts playing the last radio station. This is annoying.
Resolution
The DPI isn't any better than my G2, its just a bigger screen. This is pretty disappointing. I would like a crisper display in a flagship device.
Bloat
Its pretty bad. I know most users want Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, etc... but how about you let us select what we want during the phone setup.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
EDIT
I'll add some good things here.
Good things
Again, this is coming from a G2 so in 2 years things should be better anyways....
It is very thin, and very light.
It has a front facing camera which my G2 did not.
The flashlight, though not as bright as the "High Brightness" Cyanogenmod setting on the G2, is still pretty bright.
The speaker seems to put out a lot of sound. Can't attest to the quality yet but the volume is there.
EDIT #2
Some more good and bad....
Skype Useless
... probably related to Wifi crackling. One of the things I was looking forward to with this phone was the ability to make video calls via Skype. My fiance has an iPad2, my in-laws each have a G2X, and my brother has a SGSII. Skype is useless on this device. There is echoing / cracking and video lag even when on Wifi. I called my brother with this One S and it was useless. I then called him on an iPad2 and it was great. I'm wondering if the problem has to do with Beats Audio. We'll have to wait for an AOSP ROM without Beats to find out.
So I unlocked/rooted/ROM'd ...
I am now running Black Dragon 4.0. I LOVE the menu hack to get rid of the stupid 3 dot menu on all the screens. I like that they kept the ability to longpress home to get the default behavior as well. The launcher seems nice though I haven't played with it too much (which is a good thing, means they have good defaults).
Can't wait for the kernel sources to be released so we can make some more CM9 progress. I really miss the buttons in the dropdown for wifi, brightness, bluetooth, etc. Now I have to dropdown, click settings, scroll down and find brighness.
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life. Currently using MIUI because that seems to be the best battery life.
Edit: As for a menu button, Google is trying to get rid of that. I read a post about it a couple of months ago. They say it was useless. I completely disagree because I use it quite a lot. I use it way more than the search button which I have literally probably used less than 30 times and I've been on an Android device since the G1 came out.
For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
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Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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Love this. G2 FOORRREEEVVVAAAAHHHH
.ili.music.ili. said:
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life.
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I'm the wrong person to ask about battery life (at least during the week). I work in one of these new fancy energy efficient "Green" buildings. We have coating on our windows that block UV with the side effect of also blocking cellular signals. Everyone that works here puts their phones on airplane mode to save battery because we have 0 signal and the phone search all day.
I'll know better this weekend about battery life.
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For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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FunkyELF said:
How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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no you can install launchers without root..from market just look for them
to ditch sense though you will need root..and to change dpi you will need root..my advice root lol
by ditching sense i mean install a non sense rom like black dragon or untouchables that strip sense away so the majority is ice cream sandwich without the bloatfest. some apps will be kept in but just use root explorer to rid the rom of it.
the dedicated menu button and ridding the screen of the three dots at the bottom is also because its been taken away and remapped by devs..so again..you need root
most of all..development will kick in soon..so better to root..or if not just use a different launcher but you dont really accomplish what your setting out to do
leedroid should be here soon with a rom,and will do away with most of the bloat anyway...so youll keep sense and most things you complained about will be sorted..
the main thing here is..root..worth it..yes..without..pointless and youll be stuck with htcs crap stock rom..pretty poor for me..but coming from another phone with loads of development..probably biased of how it should be
No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
FunkyELF said:
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
Root and ROM it. People are remapping the multitask key as the menu button, and hold-home now does the multitask. You're on XDA, so I assume you're enthused enough to root and ROM it.
No trackball
Seriously. Please find me an Android device with a trackball nowadays. It's gone...you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Resolution
This display seems pretty crisp. We're working with phones with relatively small displays. There's only so many pixels you can pack into until it doesn't even matter. 720p is about as far as we need to go on phone screens. The qHD screen on this phone has vivid colors and all the qualities of Super AMOLED. The resolution seems plenty high to me. Are you starting 1inch away from the phone and observing pixels?
Bloat
Welcome to flagship carrier devices. Again, you're on XDA, and fully capable of rooting it and removing all that crap. The G2 was a 1-off device that had pretty much stock Android. Consider it a Nexus device, more or less. With a flagship phone, you're going to get bloatware.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
Sense has nothing to do with this. The new Google Play Store now by default places new apps' icons on the homescreen. It's as easy as going to the prefs in Play Store and disabling. Blame Google if you're going to blame someone.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
Don't know what to tell you, but it's obvious that you're describing some sort of software issue, not a hardware issue. If it worked fine on the live streams, then your data connection worked. Talk to iHeartRadio.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
So install a new one! ICS Browser+ is exactly like the stock browser. There's also Chrome and Opera. Cmon...
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
This is the one thing I disliked and will agree with you on, although once again, rooting and ROMing can take care of it. That or removing bloatware.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Suit yourself. 4.7 inches is just too big, and at these speeds, you're at the mercy of your data connection, not the processor.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
AMEN
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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i agree with you there,its all about learning curves..no sense roms are fairly close to stock..its just the settings that are different now..he_stheone has already added certain elements of stock android..so its fairly close..just the settings..that are the main difference now.
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No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
Isn't that minor thing?
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nickmv said:
I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I didn't see this one listed in the ALL ROMS post here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584163
Where is the info on that ROM?
Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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nickmv said:
I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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Going to have to side with you on this one. This phone is definitly a great device, give it some time, dig in a little bit. Much better than my Tmo-SGS2.
most of things you mentioned isnt a "bad thing" just you dont know how to operate the phone, or its just different (opinion at that point).
Also you didnt like things which are for all devices, not just one S
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
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The long press, dragging and combining of icons together is AOSP folders in Ice Cream Sandwich. The long press on the desktop to add folder is long gone and is not coming back.
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Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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Sorry... you said Black Magic, not Black dragon.
I'll give it a try in a couple weeks. I like to use my phone a bit before rooting to make sure I didn't get a lemon.
Does the camera work on this one?
Just got the phone and here are my negatives:
1. With lowest brightness setting the screen is horrible (but if you increase it a bit, its ok)
2. No switches in pulldown menu ? I though Sense always had that.....
3. Bottom plastic is not 100% flush at one corner (maybe will exchange, maybe not)
4. In navigation I just couldnt find "setting" button anywhere.....whats up with that ?
gonna go to Verizon and compare to Nexus....I still need Tmo SIM and stores are in same place anyway....I am not a phone freak not wasting time here
Its also very true that until you have 2 devices in hand you cant really compare screen quality...I though my G2x IPS panel for super great, but compared to One S its very warm colored and whites have red tint. Its also hard to use in lowest brightness even in dark room....but with G2x case its because screen is simply too dark, with One S its bright but disgusting to look at due to some "noise"