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I've playing around with a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone and wasn't satisfied with the Windows Media Player.
When it is opening a video, the video is all choppy but the program becomes totally unresponsive
Seeking is just a guessing game. I hold down the rewind/forward button and don't really have a clear idea where the video is going to stop at all.
Just wondering are there any good alternatives video players that will load faster and be more responsive?
The only three players I've looked at was:
TCPMP which seems very good...except I'm not sure how I'm supposed to install it and customize it (I think there was some plugin to get it to play FLV files?).
Core Player Mobile seemed pretty good as well.
PocketTV didn't seem to support many formats.
In general, I use Avidemux to change videos (AVI's or FLV's) I find online to MP4's with MPEG4-SP video and AAC audio. I wouldn't mind be able to run FLV files without having to process them or being able to encode h.264 video but that's not too important to me.
What is important to me is a responsive and fast video player.
Any suggestions?
I use CorePlayer and it's wonderful.. don't see any reason to use anything else.
which device do you have?
PanTech Matrix Pro
Apparently someone involved in the project was a college buddy of my dad or something.
Though I did notice a weird issue...the frames don't seem to update at the same time...
Like whenever the screen flashes or something moves suddenly, I can notice that the bottom half of the screen tends to update before the top half of the screen.
And the division of the screen is rarely in the same place.
So basically if the video is flashing black and white, the screen looks like a wave of black and white is moving from the bottom on the screen to the top in a real jerky manner.
Really annoying when...well...anything moves.
Does it for all my videos even if the video is low fps and an easy codec.
The default windows media player doesn't do it...but the default players pretty sucks in every other way.
Any idea of how I can tweak it?
I'm using 1.3 for Windows Mobile 6.1
edit: Hmmm...setting the video driver to GDI seems to make it slightly less noticeable.
im with nir i sue coreplayer ansdi t plays pretty much every codec and theres no need to install extra codecs
this includes divx
its not free but worth it
You can use TCPMP if you want some thing free and good
Oh I tried. But Coreplayer's h264 playback is amazing to me.
movie player
i had coreplayer but its freezing on me so what else can I use?
it froze on me too!
CorePlayer is fantastic - the only drawback that I have occured so far is that fact that it cannot play AC3 sound files commonly found in *.avi files...otherwise, it is brilliant. Worth the money in my opinion.
No need to encode or whatever, usually I just drag and drop video files onto my phone and it plays it just fine...much better than converting through iTunes ....unfortunately no 720p/1080p just yet, but that's just asking for too much
Today i have a free application to recommend (MoboPlayer) , it's still on beta.
Official website : http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
Tested this application with a 720p MKV anime and it can play smoothly on it, tried it on rockplayer and it lag like hell.
However I think it's only work on 720p with around 30fps since Sony capped the max fps. Tried it with 24fps video and no problem with it.
It's support almost every type of video files just like rockplayer but have a nicer interface but you have to add the video into it's library in order to read.
Download link extracted from the website: http://update.moboplayer.com/android/release/mobo_1.0.120_v7_neon.apk
Please try it and comment below.
it did not even find my media,while other players did!
Awesome player! Confirmed but not high volume videos.
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it did not even find my media,while other players did!
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You have to set the folder for your video and wait for it to be add to the library.
VITAL player is best
VITAL is better i guess
I have a 200MB .mkv file It plays in VITAL
Laggy in moboplayer/
i`ve tested a file with vital player
720p - 28 minutes - 1GB - mkv file - audio ac3 5.1
the vital player cant play it smooth and correct.
its very laggy. will test the mobo player next...
Now i can uninstall QQPlayer Vplayer nice...
V Player is BEST !!
I use Meridian Player and it seems to play files very smoothly. I shall give this one a shot though.
QuentinCosta said:
i`ve tested a file with vital player
720p - 28 minutes - 1GB - mkv file - audio ac3 5.1
the vital player cant play it smooth and correct.
its very laggy. will test the mobo player next...
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I´ve tested mobo player now with the same file...
i cant understand why everybody is talking that kind of **** in this thread!?
pls believe me that there is no player for sony x10 which can play "real" 720p files well without async audio and laggy frames.
buy next phone with dualcore and i think its possible...
THE BEST Video player i ever seen for android .... way better than Vplayer's stupid interface ..... thank you very much
I really LOVE MixZing for all my MP3s! Its got a clean, simple, and dark interface. For video I use mVideoPlayer for Anime because its the only one I know that automaticly got subtitles for my episodes.
VitalPlayer I've been using for video, but I don't like how it doesn't have a list of your media like mVideoPlayer.
I'm gonna try this new one and see what I think... the hunt to only use one continues.
Amazing it's the best player to this moment ..
I test a lot of player but this is the best thanks man ...
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VITAL player is best
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Which version of Vital Player is for the X10 as our devices are Arm7 but on Market it states that Vital Player Neon is suitable for our X10s, even though that version is suppose to be for Cortex A8 devices only???
QuentinCosta said:
I´ve tested mobo player now with the same file...
i cant understand why everybody is talking that kind of **** in this thread!?
pls believe me that there is no player for sony x10 which can play "real" 720p files well without async audio and laggy frames.
buy next phone with dualcore and i think its possible...
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Sigh... That's just plain ignorant... The X10 has a hardware decoder that can handle even 1080p without any problems... BUT since it's a hardware decoder, the video stream has to be in a format it understands. In the X10, that means H.263, H.264 and MPEG-4.
Any other codec needs software decoding and for that, there isnt enough CPU power to do at more than ~15fps for 720p. By dropping frames, that wont desync audio but it will be laggy to watch so that statement is just plain wrong. Dualcore also wont change that one bit.
As for container, atleast from what I've seen so far, no third party player has ever handled hardware decoding themself but always relied on the built in videoplayer for that and simply showing the output. That however limits you also to containers that the builtin player understands for this, which is only MP4, AVI and MPG. But that may very well change and if OP states that this player can play 720p MKV files, it may very well be the first player to properly implement calling of the hardware decoder itself. Will be intresting to see.
But please, learn what it is you're bashing before doing it. It saves people from having to come correct your misconceptions about what you're bashing.
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But please, learn what it is you're bashing before doing it.
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read the first post and you can see that he was talking about MKV FILES !!!
But its the same with an 720p avi file... i dont have the chance to test the mp4 at the moment...
everytime i want to play a 720p movie (and not a camera record) its laggy on my x10.
you mean if i rip a movie in the mp4 there would be no problems at all?
Ok, so I just tried this player... and it is super awesome!! Easily the best one I've tried so far! Thanks for sharing!
it took my application sound files and paired it with my audio files. not cool.
Thanks for all your feedbacks. The 720p (1280x720) h264 mkv file that I tried run smoothly on it. As some of you stated it's still lag, therefore i tried a 720p mp4 file and the video is quite smooth however there's lot of distortion in the audio maybe due to the 5 channel audio.
Will try again tommorrow if I have the time.
Anyway one of the good points of this player is
1) Better interface
2) Able to choose dual audio track (English, Japanese) or dual subtitles (English, German etc)
3) Much more smoother than other player
4) More gesture function.
Hope you all can get the best out of this player. Have a nice day.
Howdy folks, hope some of you might have a few suggestions for a new Android guy.
After much love and consideration for the Android platform, I decided to come over to the Android world. Sold my iPhone 4 and picked myself up a Thunderbolt at the neighborhood Verizon store. So far, I love it. Great device, screen, customization and service. A world of difference from AT&T. However there is one lingering issue.
On my iPhone, I could send 720p direct from iTunes to the phone. It played smooth as silk, nary an issue, perfect.
With the Tbolt's fantastic size of screen, I would think it would be the perfect place for mobile HD video. However, when I take an mp4 onto the Tbolt, it chokes. The playback is varying levels of choppy, and audio often loses sync.
Am I doing something wrong? Is the Tbolt not capable of playing this type of file? I see a lot of talk on the forums about Froyo messing with 720 playback. I'm not sure what to do because aside from that one issue, I love the phone.
Any feedback/advice/info is appreciated. I love Android and so far the community rocks.
Signed,
Former iPhone User
i had the same problem. installed "vplayer advanced" and it was much better - no skipping, no sync issues. i think you just need to find a different player. the hardware should play them fine, but i havent tried a 5 gig 720p HD movie yet. and the default player wont play mkv files, but vplayer did.
You guys do realize the thunderbolt's screen is 800x480, which is a lower resolution than 720 (which you normally think of in terms of 1280x720 resolution). The horizontal scan lines on the thunderbolt (480) is the same as a standard definition television (640x480), so all you're getting is a placebo effect and a huge drain on your phone battery/resources.
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You guys do realize the thunderbolt's screen is 800x480, which is a lower resolution than 720 (which you normally think of in terms of 1280x720 resolution). The horizontal scan lines on the thunderbolt (480) is the same as a standard definition television (640x480), so all you're getting is a placebo effect and a huge drain on your phone battery/resources.
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Totally understand this. However, for me its more an issue of ease of use. I don't want to convert videos 3 times because I have 3 devices, which was the nice thing about the iPhone/iTunes. One file, done.
Plus, I've downconverted the videos to test, sometimes they skip too, and they never look as good to me. Placebo effect maybe, but again the ease of use thing is the biggest importance to me. If the iPhone 4 can handle this kind of file, why shouldn't my Tbolt?
Problem is probably not the hardware (since the thunderbolt outdoes the iphone in this), it's probably the codecs on the phone not being adept enough to handle them or the developer of your media player not keeping up with certain advancements in android hardware.
Just for instance on a pc, coreAVC will work on really old computers for x264 hd movies (ive gotten it to run smooth on pentium centrinos), however, the built in codecs for something like VLC player (last I checked), couldnt handle a computer that old for rendering HD.
The other issue could be how well they (both the android os developers and the media player developers) take advantage of using the hardware to do all the heavy lifting in the decoding. If it's all being done with software (like VLC does by default on a pc), then that is going to kill the cpu. If it's leveraging the gpu in the phone to take some of the burden off the cpu (similar to what something like coreAVC does now on a pc with nvidia's cuda), then that would help immensely. If in fact android can leverage the gpu to handle things like video decoding, then the final issue is whether or not the developer of your chosen media player is taking advantage of that.
However, if it was some sort of hardware issue, it could be the read speed of the included sd cards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speeds. Try sticking a smaller video file directly in the internal storage of the phone and see if that makes a difference.
I haven't looked too far into the internals of the typical android phone and os yet, but coming from many years of linux and windows development for the web and desktop, those are just my thoughts on the issue.
Android OS 3.0 has an encoder built into it already for h264 avc, so that should take care of issues in the near future for converting your video. Whenever we get gingerbread finally (well 2.3.3 that is), we'll have vp8 decoder as well and that should run things much smoother as google built it themselves for html5 video streaming, so I'd hope it would run efficiently on android. I've read issues with people not being able to handle high res MP4 files on the inspire (the att's thunderbolt) so it doesnt overly surprise me you are as well. I assume they are h264/mp4 files, right? Perhaps try encoding to h263 if so or wmv
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html#core
Yeah your gonna have to Download a Video Player app that is Hardware accelerated and plays those kinds of Video Formats. Rockplayer should work too i think.
Been up all night loading my anime + tv shows on the bolt. I agree, i really don't want to be bothered with trans-coding everything i have, plus the bolt does has DLNA capabilities which is another plus if you have a server loaded with the proper media but chances are, those are 720p or better as well.
The best player i used so far is rock player, it beats out meridian, qq player, and vplayer advanced as is the only player that played back everything i threw at it. that said is not pefect, it drops frames when you try to playback 720p mp4 but still smooth for the most part. It lags a bit more with 720p mkv, and lags really bad with 720p avi files. Anything not using the native hardware decoder however, sucks a ton of battery life out the Bolt.
it will playback almost anything at 480p, which is about what the screen native resolution is at. The Bolt does come with a Adreno 205 gpu but i don't think that does anything for video acceleration, maybe is missing the proper hardware decoding chipset which is why is not armed with a HDMI port.
It should only get better with improvement in software/codec but for now, is a let down in terms of video playback.
Try Diceplayer 1.3.0
Thunderbolt's QSD8655 can play H.264 720p.
but HTC's stock media player can't handle MKV, DTS , Flac.
Diceplayer take advantage of hw decoder.
it can play MKV(+DTS+720p).
Don't worry about battery life. diceplayer use almost same power as stock player.
MoboPlayer with ARM V7_NEON coded plays everything fine.
http://www.moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
For reasons stated earlier there does not seem to be any good solution that will handle all common formats used in a PC/Mac/Home theater system on a Tbolt without re-encoding. I posted a video player "shoot out" of sorts over on the "other" forum. In short I was completely let down by all the players I tested. There are a couple here I did not include at that time.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...layers-review-test-comparison-included-3.html
The only one I left on my device was MoboPlayer.
Don't bother with files larger then 4GB either, our SD cards do not support them (or was it the OS...). That being said a good 720p rip with 5 or 6 channels of audio (yes I know there are not enough speakers to hear them all - just so no re-encode required) should generally be smaller than 4 GB.
I am quite keen to hear about any diceplayer vs. MoboPlayer as I did not test diceplayer.
yumms said:
MoboPlayer with ARM V7_NEON coded plays everything fine.
http://www.moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
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Mobo or Rock or vital or QQPlayer can not play MKV(+DTS) HD.
dice is the best. dice use hw video decoder. no sw video decoding.
juami said:
Mobo or Rock or vital or QQPlayer can not play MKV(+DTS) HD.
dice is the best. dice use hw video decoder. no sw video decoding.
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I did some quick testing of diceplayer. It is no good. I used the same blend of file types, video formats, audio formats, files sizes and audio and video quality as my tests I posted about with the link to the other forum (prior post in this thread). Diceplayer was very bad. It played 1 out of 4 of the files I tested. Some played but had garbled audio or a very slow frame rate meaning effectively no successful play. I found Moboplayer to be slightly better than Diceplayer.
We really need an equivalent to VLC for Android. VLC as anyone can testify is the "swiss army knife" of players. Plex is the only app better than VLC in that it can output DTS and Dolby via optical (not concerns for a mobile device obviosuly). Who can or wants to re-encode a multi terabyte movie library?
Hi,
I've been using trial version of Dice Player and I'm almost ready to purchase the full version. However, I just noticed 3 other players that might worth considering:
- MX Player
- PowerDVD Mobile
- VLC (free)
- Seaman Player
I'd like to take comments from people who are using these. Which one should I go for ?
I personally use Dice Player. Plays everything smoothly.
MX Player: good alternative for free, but doesn't play some 720p MKVs with crisp frames.
VLC: Very early stage, not daily-use.
Rest... I haven't tried them.
mrmrmrmr said:
Hi,
I've been using trial version of Dice Player and I'm almost ready to purchase the full version. However, I just noticed 3 other players that might worth considering:
- MX Player
- PowerDVD Mobile
- VLC (free)
- Seaman Player
I'd like to take comments from people who are using these. Which one should I go for ?
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I can't make up my mind what I like best, Dice Player or MX Video Player so I paid for both apps. The developers of each seem to be going head to head on what they can and cannot do. Both do HW playback which is what I like most about them. You wont be disappointed with Dice Player the least bit. They both seem to be the two best video players to date for Android.
thanks for your comments.
is there any experience with PowerDVD ?
that's a nice app on Windows. So why not the Android version...
Dice
Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
mrmrmrmr said:
thanks for your comments.
is there any experience with PowerDVD ?
that's a nice app on Windows. So why not the Android version...
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Well for one thing, PowerDVD Mobile is $20 and Dice Player and MX player are just over $5 and can play just about every video file type. So you weigh the odds. With Tegra 2 video is barely starting to break free of it's constraints so I wouldn't want to pay out the nose for a video player that might or might not play back my videos. IDK, that's just how I feel about it.
If you do wind up getting PowerDVD let us know how well it plays HW and SW video playback with multiple file types. I was reading and I didn't find if it will play .mkv files or not.
Personally, I would normally talk up Diceplayer, but after the last couple of updates, we've taken about 5 steps backwards. Whatever happened, it's gotten worse than it was before. I'm not sure what that's due to, but 720P videos no longer play as smoothly as they once did. Videos that used to play fine are now choppy and have bad audio. And these are the same videos, the only change is what version the player is running. I'd actually go back a few versions if I had made a backup of some kind.
Either way, I don't generally recommend Diceplayer anymore. I used to talk it up and down because it WAS a very good player, but things have certainly changed alot apparently.
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Personally, I would normally talk up Diceplayer, but after the last couple of updates, we've taken about 5 steps backwards. Whatever happened, it's gotten worse than it was before. I'm not sure what that's due to, but 720P videos no longer play as smoothly as they once did. Videos that used to play fine are now choppy and have bad audio. And these are the same videos, the only change is what version the player is running. I'd actually go back a few versions if I had made a backup of some kind.
Either way, I don't generally recommend Diceplayer anymore. I used to talk it up and down because it WAS a very good player, but things have certainly changed alot apparently.
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Yep very true. I have had the exact same findings. I've been talking to the developer and just sent him a 720p mkv today that used to work and now doesn't. He's testing it on his transformer to see if he can find the issue.
Power DVD is too expensive. Mobo is so far the best
Hopefully DICE player can fix it's recent bugs (he has been issuing updates like crazy anyway).
MX has mich better gui, but dice player still has much better playback. There is noticeable difference in frame drops between the two (dice being much, much better, even though both use hardware decoding).
i use vplayer and it does all videos and even allows streaming
Dice Player with tegra addon . Nothing to me is smoother.
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Moboplayer
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For me, dice player has the smoothest playback, too.
Hi,
I've tried PowerDVD mobile.
It has a very elegant GUI and nice features.
It serves music and photos in addition to videos and it also includes a DLNA player.
However, videos are not as smooth as MX Player or Dice Player.
Probably it does not support as much codecs.
bs player
i just found BS player for android its in beta right now but it works great
I wish I could get DICE player to work. Everytime I open it, it says "Sorry, this video cannot be played." I haven't even picked a video yet!
Having endless issues trying to play 720p mkv videos I have dice player, mobo player, and mx video player. When the video is smooth i get no sound and when sound works the video gets choppy during action/ fast scenes... any advice?
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I can't seem to get HW decoding to work with MX player. Is anyone using any custom kernels .. overclocking?
MX Video for me
i started with Mobo since the stock player only reads internal files. but i wanted full screen with no icons on the bottom. i tried dice trial and liked it so i bought the full version than i saw mx video and bought it too. i like both, but dice player on lets me choose (ie: /Removable/MicroSD don't even try microsd).
whereas mx video lets me add several locations that i can browse too and i get full screen. i haven't had any problems with any video incls so far.
i just wish i could connect a protable dvd player.
i also like the easy way it handles subtitles and .vob
Hey guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus and I think the stock video player is ****. Then again, I haven't liked stock something in a long time in any of my phones.
I'd like to know which video player is best? One that handles all known video formats beautifully and taht plays even 720p MKV files smoothly or as smooth as can be.
Do suggest paid apps as well. I haven't had a good video player in ages, so I'm ready to dish out around 5 bucks for it. I'd want VLC, though, but it's been in development for ages and seems to never see light.
What about MX Player Pro???
MoboplayerPro or Rockplayer
Be warned,rock player ain't preety, but it's a format buster,mobo has a neater ui and works around about the same.
Another vote for moboplayer. One of the main things I do on my GS2 is to watch videos. I´ve thrown a bunch of different formats and codecs and I never had any issues. It also supports subtitles.
MX Player for me. Swiping for volume/brightness/scrubbing is awesome. It also has 200% volume boost via software encoder.
i'm using MoboPlayer, Think is best
interface +
compatibility +
Another vote for moboplayer!! It's pretty good...
Mx player.
$1 gets you a reply
MXplayer for me.. I would like to get the pro version.. But I dont use credit cards..
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Try diceplayer from market.
Diceplayer is the first HW accelerated video player in Android Market.
It support 720p H.264 MKV with OGG/FLAC/AC-3/DTS audio and embedded and external subtiles.
and SMB/FTP/HTTP support.
You can play video from your PC with SMB share with external subtitle.
I use MX Player & its the best player so far, it contains every feature I want... Best & fast...
Haven't really played alot of videos on my phone for a while now, but i use VitalPlayer by Ringo.
Found it to be one of the better apps for playing video. Tried quite a few before picking that one.
Free and Paid option is avaible.
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I use MX Player & its the best player so far, it contains every feature I want... Best & fast...
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Agreed
Hmm, looks like I just went and bought MX Player Pro, after all. ^^