I look at phone status it says hsdpa some times and hspa the other half which I'm assuming means hsdpa and hsupa? Not sure if this means anything.
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Can you provide a screenshot of when this happens and run a speedtest and tell us your results? This would be very helpful as many of us, at least myself, do not believe I have HSUPA enabled.
mine is sitting on HSDPA right now... while i'm sitting in bed.
HSUPA is either disabled in firmware or AT&T is actively restict the upload speed for Captivate. Anyway I have never seen my upload speed higher than 300 to 400 kbps. If you have HDUPA enabled, you should see 1mbps upload speed as my friend's iPhone4 can consistently demostrate.
HSDPA is for download speed. If you get download speed over 500kbps, you have HSDPA. Mine can often get to 1 to 3 mbps.
HSUPA is for upload speed.
Yes, HSPA is NOT HSUPA.
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HSUPA is either disabled in firmware or AT&T is actively restict the upload speed for Captivate. Anyway I have never seen my upload speed higher than 300 to 400 kbps. If you have HDUPA enabled, you should see 1mbps upload speed as my friend's iPhone4 can consistently demostrate.
HSDPA is for download speed. If you get download speed over 500kbps, you have HSDPA. Mine can often get to 1 to 3 mbps.
HSUPA is for upload speed.
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thanks for clearing that up... after i posted i did some research on the d and the u... then felt like a moron.. ohh well we only live once.
How can you check what your download speeds are? What app do I use or is it already in the phone?
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How can you check what your download speeds are? What app do I use or is it already in the phone?
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I like Speedtest from the market. Its pretty solid. or you can go to m.dslreports.com/speedtest from the browser (use the iphone speedtest there).
Well hspa is high speed packet access which can refer to up and down link, how do I screen cap. Or do I need an app for that
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I used speddtest and got 1.4 megs download so I guess I'm running HSDPA also
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Well hspa is high speed packet access which can refer to up and down link, how do I screen cap. Or do I need an app for that
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you have to root the phone before you can screen cap.
There is really no need to post any screen cap. Download the speedtest app from market and report your results.
The Cap has HSDPA, but not HSUPA. Do some looking on this forum you'll see where others have analyzed the modem.bin file from the Captivate vs the one from the Vibrant. All of the HSUPA stuff has been removed from the Captivate version. You can get HSUPA on the phone by flashing the I9000 modem file to the Captivate. Data works great, people were regularly getting 1.2Mbps upload. But they had no voice out on telephone calls so it was worthless. Same with the Vibrant modem file. Also, those only supported 1900MHz, not 850/1900 MHz, so if you are in an area where you have 850MHz 3G it wouldnt work at all.
Its been clearly established there is no HSUPA on the phone, AT&T has completely removed it from the software (although the hardware does support it). The last hope is when Rogers Canada gets their version of the Captivate, if they leave HSUPA enabled, that modem.bin file may work on our AT&T Captivates properly since they use an extremely similar network and the its a Captivate, not a Vibrant or I9000. When I said HSPA is NOT HSUPA I meant that just because you see HSPA in one of the menu settings in the phone that is not HSUPA.
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I've seen screenshots of Captivates homescreens from you peoples showing an H instead of just 3G. May I ask how you enabled this? Thanks in advance!
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HSDPA and 3G are the same thing (i'm pretty sure)
or more technically speaking, HSDPA is one half of 3G, with HSUPA being the other half (HSDPA=download, HSUPA=upload)...
can anybody correct me if i'm wrong?
You're correct. AT&T requires all its 3G phone to display 3G instead of any other icon. Often times, ppl find ways to replace it with the native 3G icon, H, which is widely used by rest of the world. But that makes no difference in actual connection speed.
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HSDPA and 3G are the same thing (i'm pretty sure)
or more technically speaking, HSDPA is one half of 3G, with HSUPA being the other half (HSDPA=download, HSUPA=upload)...
can anybody correct me if i'm wrong?
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this is correct. when referring to both of them together they are commonly called just HSPA.
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HSDPA and 3G are the same thing (i'm pretty sure)
or more technically speaking, HSDPA is one half of 3G, with HSUPA being the other half (HSDPA=download, HSUPA=upload)...
can anybody correct me if i'm wrong?
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"3G" is the common short abbreviation for UMTS. HSDPA is an update to UMTS that gives faster download speeds (a version is widely deployed on AT&T). HSUPA is a protocol upgrade that enables faster upload speeds (installing HSUPA equipment borked upload speed on AT&T recently). Combining the two is called HSPA. HSPA+ is an update to HSPA that's even faster. T-Mobile is planning on rolling this out. LTE (AT&T's 4G pathway) is totally unrelated to HSPA.
Thanks for your replies! I appreciate the schooling
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"3G" is the common short abbreviation for UMTS. HSDPA is an update to UMTS that gives faster download speeds (a version is widely deployed on AT&T). HSUPA is a protocol upgrade that enables faster upload speeds (installing HSUPA equipment borked upload speed on AT&T recently). Combining the two is called HSPA. HSPA+ is an update to HSPA that's even faster. T-Mobile is planning on rolling this out. LTE (AT&T's 4G pathway) is totally unrelated to HSPA.
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This is the correct post.
Also, I'm certain AT&T doesn't disallow the H icon because I've seen screenshots of the Captivate with that icon.
However, at the same time, I have a -51 dBm signal and no HSUPA which I know I should be able to get here because my iPhone 4 got it. Something is going on, but I'm not sure what yet.
Edit: Nevermind, it sounds like I'm wrong. In the manual there's no mention of an H icon. There's also no mention of HSUPA. I think we just got screwed by AT&T. What a surprise.
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This is the correct post.
Also, I'm certain AT&T doesn't disallow the H icon because I've seen screenshots of the Captivate with that icon.
However, at the same time, I have a -51 dBm signal and no HSUPA which I know I should be able to get here because my iPhone 4 got it. Something is going on, but I'm not sure what yet.
Edit: Nevermind, it sounds like I'm wrong. In the manual there's no mention of an H icon. There's also no mention of HSUPA. I think we just got screwed by AT&T. What a surprise.
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I'm pretty sure AT&T does disallow use of the H icon. They did on my Fuze. The reason is that there's ALWAYS confusion when people don't have a good operational knowledge of the protocol names. There's always someone on the EnergyROM or Cyanogenmod threads asking why "only" H comes up when they expect 3G.
Anyway, I have an AT&T band Nexus One as well as a Captivate. The N1 is definitely HSUPA compatible. I just tried speedtest.net a few times and got an average of 2.5M down and 175k up (5 runs no run over 256k) in midtown Manhattan. On my Captivate I'm getting ~4M down and 200k up. Upload speeds are about the same, probably limited by AT&T's current (under) capability.
I don't have access to an iPhone 4, but if you do, could you do a few runs on the speedtest.net app on both devices from the same location and let us know the results? At this point, I'm pretty convinced it's the HSUPA equipment screw-up at AT&T not lack of HSUPA on the phone.
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I'm pretty sure AT&T does disallow use of the H icon. They did on my Fuze. The reason is that there's ALWAYS confusion when people don't have a good operational knowledge of the protocol names. There's always someone on the EnergyROM or Cyanogenmod threads asking why "only" H comes up when they expect 3G.
Anyway, I have an AT&T band Nexus One as well as a Captivate. The N1 is definitely HSUPA compatible. I just tried speedtest.net a few times and got an average of 2.5M down and 175k up (5 runs no run over 256k) in midtown Manhattan. On my Captivate I'm getting ~4M down and 200k up. Upload speeds are about the same, probably limited by AT&T's current (under) capability.
I don't have access to an iPhone 4, but if you do, could you do a few runs on the speedtest.net app on both devices from the same location and let us know the results? At this point, I'm pretty convinced it's the HSUPA equipment screw-up at AT&T not lack of HSUPA on the phone.
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That's what I was saying. My iPhone 4 got HSUPA here with no issue at all. When everyone else's HSUPA had issues, I still had no problem at all. So unless HSUPA decided to die in my area the day I returned my iPhone 4, I don't think the Captivate has it.
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That's what I was saying. My iPhone 4 got HSUPA here with no issue at all. When everyone else's HSUPA had issues, I still had no problem at all. So unless HSUPA decided to die in my area the day I returned my iPhone 4, I don't think the Captivate has it.
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When did you return it? The iPhone 4 was released on June 24 and the AT&T HSUPA issue cropped up around July 6th or so. That's when my Nexus went from over ~1M up to ~200k up. If you gave it up after July 6, what sort of upload speeds were you getting? What sort of speeds are you getting now on the Captivate? Not trying to grill you or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
I've looked all over the internet and cant find any place that confirms or denies that this phone is HSUPA compatible.
I did a speed test this morning on my way to work and got 2457 down and only 170 up. Thats a pathetic upload speed. I'm guessing from that speed that the phone is not HSUPA. But AT&T has been having problems with their HSUPA software since the iphone4 launched and maybe my low upload speeds are because of that?
With that low of an upload speed it'll take forever to upload photos in MMS or to facebook and would take a lifetime to upload a 720p video to youtube.
i can tell you that the upload is pathetic compared to my iPhone 4 in the same apartment. Download speeds are comparable, but upload seems to cap out around 150k.
On my HSUPA iphone the uploads cap around 1.1mb
Cellular:Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Cellular_Data;Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
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I think that info is also on the back of the box. Not sure as I'm not at home right now.
did u find anything out?
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did u find anything out?
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It doesn't have HSUPA. Or if it does, it's not turned on. Let us only hope that the radio supports it and an update will turn it on.
From your phone type *#0228# and it should show that your connected to hsdpa or umts.
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I think that info is also on the back of the box. Not sure as I'm not at home right now.
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No, on the box it just says quad band GSM and lists the bands and then it says tri band umts and lists the bands. It doesnt mention hsdpa or hsupa on the box.
Plus, with AT&T's network crapping out on hsupa right after the iphone4 launched who knows what the problem is, possibly the phone has it but the network is broken.
Really, with as much as I hate AT&T, I'm thinking they are crippling upload speeds in congested areas because certain parts of the country are still getting hsupa speeds on their iphone4's.
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From your phone type *#0228# and it should show that your connected to hsdpa or umts.
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Any idea what the various fields are?
Paste below for scrn cap:
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I'm a noob to Android but my screen reads Network HSDPA
RSSI: SIgnalStrength 16-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 gsm
The first number changer between 16 and 8 others numbers stay 1
FWIW First number went to as low as 4
Speed test was 3057 down 394 upload
HSUPA is currently tuned off in many (most?) AT&T markets right now until they address a so called software issue.
Nobody ready about this?
I've read of someone on their captivate getting over 1mbit, and that is obviously HSUPA, but I don't think he was in an area where the lucent equipment is in use that is causing the AT&T upload issue.
Ooops, I guess someone pointed this out...
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Plus, with AT&T's network crapping out on hsupa right after the iphone4 launched who knows what the problem is, possibly the phone has it but the network is broken.
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Samsung US website does not show this on a feature Captivate or any other Galaxy phone
I haven't seen anyone who has gotten HSUPA speeds on a Captivate. On a Galaxy S, yes, but not a Captivate. HSUPA works fine in my market, and always worked fine on my iPhone, but never on my Captivate. It just doesn't look like it has HSUPA, or at least it's not enabled. Hopefully it's something that can be turned on later, but I wouldn't be surprised if it never is. If this was an AT&T decision, then I'm very disappointed, but not entirely surprised.
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I just installed Atinm's Kernel w/HSUPA on my captivate and here are my before and after speeds.
1402 down 247 up
2142 down 1662 up
I was already running cognition 2.1.5 with the voodoo only kernel.
In a letter responding to a complaint I filed with FCC the AT&T representative stated
"In regards to the issues with HSUPA speed; HSUPA is disabled from all AT&T handsets and is currently only available on our aircards. We also do not market the Samsung Captivate as a HSUPA capable device.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this issue may have caused you."
She didn't deny that it, or their network were capable because then she would have to admit to the problems they are having with bandwidth volumes that servers can't keep up with. A similar problem that U-Verse is developing/creating for their formerly content DSL subsribers in my area.
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In a letter responding to a complaint I filed with FCC the AT&T representative stated
"In regards to the issues with HSUPA speed; HSUPA is disabled from all AT&T handsets and is currently only available on our aircards. We also do not market the Samsung Captivate as a HSUPA capable device.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this issue may have caused you."
She didn't deny that it, or their network were capable because then she would have to admit to the problems they are having with bandwidth volumes that servers can't keep up with. A similar problem that U-Verse is developing/creating for their formerly content DSL subsribers in my area.
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All handsets but the iPhone 4. At least its a semi-honest answer.
HSUPA works on 2.1 (with HSUPA hacked modem file).
i'm not sure i should downgrade back to 2.1 , i really miss the HSUPA on froyo 2.2
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All handsets but the iPhone 4. At least its a semi-honest answer.
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HSUPA on iPhone 3GS works too.
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HSUPA works on 2.1 (with HSUPA hacked modem file).
i'm not sure i should downgrade back to 2.1 , i really miss the HSUPA on froyo 2.2
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Any info on where to obtain the cracked modem file or how to install it?
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Any info on where to obtain the cracked modem file or how to install it?
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Install Cognition Beta 8.
Or an i9000 ROM.
Both are in the Android Development forum.
This is old news.
Several who complained to FCC about this back in August got very similar responses from AT&T.
I received a case regarding your concerns with the data connection speed for your Samsung Captivate.
In regards to the issues with HSUPA speed; HSUPA is disabled from all AT&T handsets and is currently only available on our aircards. We also do not market the Samsung Captivate as a HSUPA capable device.
Did they enable it only in the iPhone to offset disappointed followers?
Several custom ROM available here to you enable this feature with great results.
Well heres mine.
Was connected to HSDPA 2.55mb down and .29 up......rather slow.
3.54 down and 1.6 up
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We should see a solid difference once the backhaul work is done. It will display the h+ anywhere there's 3g.
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3.54 down and 1.6 up
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H+ or HSDPA?
Hsdpa
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H+ or HSDPA?
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Running the attn1's ROM
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not bad, i could get those speeds from my nexus one but not my inspire...very uninspiring
Stock
2120 kbps Down
108 kbps Up
I can wait to root this thing!
On HSDPA I am hitting 3.3 down and 370k up.
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Did anyone else realize that the bottom cover is actually the phones antenna? I just figured that out...
On HSPDA used the FCC app to run the test... 3.02mbps down, 0.29mbps up
Seeing these speeds are scaring me away from switching from T-Mobile to AT&T. On T-Mobile I get 4.70 mbps download and 1.32mbps upload on a Nexus One on hspa (3g) and not hspa+ (4g). Damn I want a new phone already, the inspire is a great piece on hardware!
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Seeing these speeds are scaring me away from switching from T-Mobile to AT&T. On T-Mobile I get 4.70 mbps download and 1.32mbps upload on a Nexus One on hspa (3g) and not hspa+ (4g). Damn I want a new phone already, the inspire is a great piece on hardware!
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None of us seem to be on hspa+ either. It seems it may not be truly turned on til march.
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"4G Evolution
AT&T has deployed HSPA+ to virtually 100% of our nation's fastest mobile broadband network, which enables 4G speeds when combined with enhanced backhaul. We are rapidly expanding enhanced backhaul to cell sites throughout the country, adding new cell sites weekly."
Something isn't right here. I've gotten of 3mb/s on my captivate.
The enhanced backhaul part is what's gonna get you higher speeds. It's not a new network or anything. Once it's done in a given area it also has to be "flipped on". That's pretty much what we're waiting for.
I've gotten up to 3000 down, 1900 up on my rooted captivate at my home cell site, but haven't broken 1600 down and 500 up on the non-rooted stock Inspire at the same place.
I have a rooted Captivate running Cognition and my Inspire is testing faster. You can run the test 30 sec apart and get wildly different results though.
im getting 3453 down and 423 up on HSPA+
Where is you location? Your the first with hspa+
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which speed test website r u guys using? and which program to test speed? on opera i get like 6k down n on stock internet i get like 4k down. im in DC. im pretty sure opera compresses the website so it makes it move faster but idk. mine is pretty fast. especially @ night.
i use mobilespeedtest.com
on speedtest.net i got 3.44mbps down and .26mbps up. first try
4.17, .29 second try.
I recently noticed that my 3G speed is much faster than ever before and I live in one of the city that recently added T-Mobile HSPA+.
I was just wondering if Nexus S supports HSPA+. Thanks!
I believe that the NS (I9020 and I9023 variants) have a max download speed of 7.2Mbps and max upload speed of around 5 Mbps, so it is not HSPA+ capable.
It's true the NS, has a max download speed, of 7.2. However, T-mobile's network (at least where I live, supports 21 mbps theoretical speeds (and will be, updating to 42 mbps soon...woohoo) and I regularly see speeds in excess of 6mbps... Upload speeds of almost 2 mbps (1.75 ) so, technically not HSPA + but, not bad either....
Everytime T-mo updates their network everyone sees a boost. You just won't, ever see speeds above, 7 mbps cuz the phone isn't capable of it.
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HSPA yes. HSPA+ no.
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Ok so I bought an HTC inspire 4G and it has hsdpa network and I'm normally getting 2.3 Mbs download. I went into the ATT store and the Samsung infuse uses utms and it was getting up to 5-7 Mbs download speed.
I read other forums that said hsdpa was suppose to be better. If so can anyone please explain it to me. I'm all about network speed and I wanted to know if I should just get the infuse or will the hsdpa improve later on.
Hsdpa will get faster speeds once its turned on in your area. For example in Austin, Texas I get 6mb down with the inspire. The Infuse also has hsdpa. In some areas utms is faster. I'm a huge HTC fas so I will always choose HTC over other brands. If your leaning toward Samsung wait until the Galaxy S 2 comes out for ATT.
Overall you will not feel much of a difference on the phone... you can have a nice and fast looking speedtest but the difference will be within seconds.
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Overall you will not feel much of a difference on the phone... you can have a nice and fast looking speedtest but the difference will be within seconds.
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agree on that
att stores also setup their own in store micro cells so it looks like they have phenomenal service when you try stuff out in stores.
I'm getting about 6M down, 1up in good coverage area
I am speaking HSDPA with AT&T in east suburbs of Portland, OR. I do hit 7M down though somewhat routinely. Giddy / tingly when that happens . Oh and phone is still totally stock. Since Gingerbread OTA reportedly coming in a couple weeks by this forum, gonna wait until after that to root...skert...never rooted before, but I'm fairly certain I will at some point.
Edit: With Inspire 4G
I've had UTMS coverage on my Inspire 4G...
I saw it one time when I geekin over starting to get such high speeds, and checking what kind of network I was on a lot in the >About Phone setting. There is a youtube of a dude with an Inspire 4G when testing network speeds (and *****ing that it was slow...probably because HSDPA was not turned on in his area yet) that had this show up on camera. He acted surprised and didn't know what that meant. So my conclusion is that Inspire 4G supports UTMS...why I duuno
EDIT: The youbute video where a guy has UTMS coverage on camera on his Inspire 4G is entitled "Is AT&T Misleading about HSPA+ on the Inspire 4G"...well I'm happy with my speed so whatev's.
I was getting speeds like the OP with HSDPA at first
but lately i think AT&T has been sprinkling the magic "4G" dust on the towers around here, because my speeds have obviously improved dramatically, and the HSDPA status hasn't changed...
UMTS = 384 kbps.
HSDPA = 3.6 Mbps (much higher lately on att).
So I'm not sure what was happening with the phone you saw.
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UMTS = 384 kbps.
HSDPA = 3.6 Mbps (much higher lately on att).
So I'm not sure what was happening with the phone you saw.
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I wasn't speed testing when I saw it it in my About Phone menu. I was in my employers cafeteria showing someone else where to check for what network one is currently on, and I saw the UMTS on my phone. Only saw it one time. The video name I posted is about how the H+ icon(in his opinion) is a sham, because it doesn't specify "3G". When he popped about settings it was on UTMS was visible in his About Phone menu. He made some comment about he didn't know what that was all about.