I read over at cnet today a feature on FROYO.
"Froyo highlights
Of the significant changes in Froyo, the new Bluetooth an app-saving capabilities stand out. Drivers using any version of the operating system prior to Android 2.2 are unable to initiate phone calls through their Bluetooth headsets, a vast inconvenience for those who strive to go hands-free. In our tests, pairing and voice dialing were on point."
I have my phone hooked up to my Nissan Altima and when i press call on my steering wheeling, My captivate makes the call just like every other phone i've had. Same thing with my other car, the Benz's B67875878 BT module.
Why are they saying this about 2.1 when it's not true?
I have 2 different blue tooth headsets ( a blueant, and a plantronics ) and neither of them allow for voice dialing.
ahhh. that answers it. It's voice dialing. that's what they meant.
The article said "initiate phone calls through their Bluetooth headsets". That's what was confusing me. I guess most cars i've had, use an internal voice command that stores a digital number with a voice. So when i tell my car, "CALL HOME", it only is transmitting the number, not the voice data.
I think most articles are exaggerating the lack of this feature, most cars come equipped with voice tech that is internal to the auto or GPS device.
orateam said:
I think most articles are exaggerating the lack of this feature, most cars come equipped with voice tech that is internal to the auto or GPS device.
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Cars come equipped with Bluetooth systems are still a minority. For most of us that can't afford a luxury car, BT headset is all we can afford. So, yes, BT dialing is an important feature. And I'm glad Android finally get it.
i dunno know about that. The benz is luxury, but my altima sure isn't. And nowadays, every car can get handfrees calling. Every ****ty ford has 'sync' which comes with it. Most newer cars have the bluetooth handsfree, it's the iphone sync to media player they it expensive.
I think I uderstand exactly what they are talking about. I have a Ford Edge with the Sync system. With my windows mobiel phones I was able to download the phonebook from my exchange account into the sync radio. I than could voice dial by saying Dial followed by the contact name.
Since getting the Captivate, my first Android phone, I have lost the ability to do this. When I tell the sync system to download the phonebook it seems to do so. But than I an unable to dial via voice. When I navigate the phonebook from the sync radio It seems all I have are the dumb AT&T information numbers that come with the phone.
I believe this has to do with the way the two differene OS's handle the contact synchronization of exchange accounts. With Windows Mobile it actually downloaded the cantacts from your exchange and synchronized them with your local phonebook. Android seems keep the contacts from the different sources seperate so the Exchange contacts never make it to the "local phonebook" that systems like "Sync" interact with.
This is just a theory as I am not a developer or anything. What bother's me is that my buddy bought a Droid X and is able to use his with "Sync" type systems. I don't knwo if this has something to do with the Blur software or not but it kind of made me think my theory didn't hold any water.
About time! I miss this feature from my blackberry!
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Hey guys-
I'm running My Mobiler to output the display, and control my phone (Tilt/Kaiser/TytnII/8925) via my PC (XP sp2).
When I receive a call, My Mobiler allows me to accept/reject/sms etc through my pc (really through my phone dialer but I'm using my keyboard and mouse), but when I want to accept the call, and talk to my caller, I'm having to pickup the phone, and resort to what I'll call 'untethered' phone use (i.e., phone to ear/BT headset).
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
Additional info:
BT is an option, but it's Toshiba stack, which from my researching doesn't' seem to support the Headset profile on PC.
Thanks
well if your pc has bluetooth it should be able to work....i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it never tired to use a mic or use my pc as a speaker phone but 1 thing for sure the audio from calls go on my pc....if i had a mic i would test it out...also as another option(if your phone has it.) u could just use speaker phone...
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i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it
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What's the make/model of the USB BT you're using?
Mine is:
Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows
Version v5.10.15
When I pair up the profiles displayed on the tilt are:
A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
SPP: Serial Port Profile
The profiles in the Toshiba BT manager are:
DUN: Dial-Up Networking Profile
LAP: LAN Access Profile
If I use my BT headphones (Sonorix C3) with MortPlayer, A2DP works, If I try to use the Toshiba USB BT it doesn't work.
I think the one I need is (either)
HSP: Headset Profile
or
HFP: Handsfree Profile
I'm suspecting the toshiba bt stack is to blame, anyone else able to use a toshiba stack and get HSP/HFP working on their PC?
Im currently using My Mobiler to use my VOX due to having removed the broken screen from its shell
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone and it works fine
using the computers speakers and mic would be great fun, but for me its impossible due to the bluetooth dongle i use not having any compatible (free) software that uses audio streaming, but if it did, audio streaming should work with both speakers AND a mic! so it should in theory work.
i think
cris_rowlands said:
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone
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Grondinm said:
u could just use speaker phone...
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Speakerphone isn't an option, I'm in an office and the sharing of my conversation with my coworkers via loud speaker wouldn't be appreciated.
I intend to use a headset+mic combo hooked up to my pc, this way I can listen to music off my pc, and handle calls.
flow would be:
[Phone]<--display&control(via My Mobiler)-->[KVM - PC]
[Phone]<--voice*(Need solution here)*-->[MIC & Headset - PC]
Salling Clicker Is on the road to what I'd like to do, although it doesn't have voice support under windows. It's on the road to PPC <> PC convergence.
Any one have any experience with tweaking Salling Clicker to work with voice?
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What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
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When I paired my MDA Vario III with my notebook (HP TC4200 Tablet PC running a Broadcomm BT stack) I had a "Voice gateway" service available from my phone. This is in addition to DUN and Network Access Point services. Basically when I PC and phone connect my PC acts as a BT speakerphone.
I've not used the setup that often but it seems to work pretty well. When 1st connected a pop up briefly appears to inform me that the "Call Monitor" is active and that's it til a call comes in. At that point a notification gets displayed saying the number or callerID with buttons for "Accept & "Reject". If I take the call, or transfer and active call to the BT headset then my PC picks up the call.
By default my notebook uses its built in loudspeaker and microphone. However I can also pair my PC with a BT headset then route all sounds through it. It's a bit of a faff though as I have to change the active sound device to whatever headset is connected. I also need to connect the PC and eadset 1st if the headset is also paired with the phone, otherwise the real BT headset may take the call instead of the "virtual" one (notebook). I haven't tried this with my BT stereo headset though, only my conventional mono...
Whilst playing during a particularly boring teleconference I also discovered that I can record the calls and pass the sound through a text to speech converter supplied with the PC... the results of the latter are more for entertainment than serious use, althoug I suppose with some training it might be better...
I also use Salling Clicker. The phone events work pretty well, but to date I've yet to take a call using the PC whilst it is running.
Not sure if this helps in your case, but it seems like what you want to do is definitely possible.
Fatman it's like you've taken a page right out of my book. What software are you using for speech to text? This could make for a useful and entertaining audit trail... Sounds like I need to pickup a new BT adapter based on the Broadcomm stack. If anybody has had any luck using the Toshiba stack, please share.
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What software are you using for speech to text?
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I'm not sure if the program is available as separate software. It's called "Microsoft English Recognizer" and was pre-installed on my notebook. I have no idea how it compares to any other programs. I've only playted around with it very briefly as a way of killing time during a boring teleconference!
However, I can't see why any program couldn't be used as the sound from the phone is available to any software as the BT stream from the phone becomes the default input sound feed.
One thing I will definitely be trying next time is recording the call whilst taking notes using Tablet Enhancements for Outlook. THis basically augments the normal MS Outlook Journal functions so I can take handwritten notes which can be edited, commented, and then later searched. If you record the microphone feed (i.e. the phone call in my case) the notes are then linked into "timeline" of the call so you can see what notes were taken when, and conversely what happened in the call when you took a particular note... should be useful if it works...
Let me know if you need any additional info about BT stack versions and drivers etc but it does sound like you'd need the Broadcomm stack - ISTR reading that the Brioadcomm stacks on some PocketPCs have laways performed better than the MS equivalents, and it appears that the same if true for PCs too... The BT on my notebook is far more reliable, and flexible than that on my work PC which uses an MS BT dongle. However, that may be due to the fact that the BT on my notebook is built in and not USB...
Good luck!
found this:
Bluesoleil
http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x
It has a Dialer plugin.
Have not tried it yet but if someone has please let us know.
One of the only shortcomings of my first Android phone is that incoming calls ring over the phone's speaker, even when paired with my Bluetooth headset. All I get in my ear is a beep. This doesn't help when my phone is in my pocket.
I know my Jawbone Icon supports this as it's compliant with all the latest standards. It worked perfectly on my now retired WinMo 6.5 phone using MSVC (which announced the caller's name on top of their ringtone). Given the lack of BT support on Android until Froyo -- or at least that's my perception -- I can only assume this feature still hasn't been implemented.
I found one of the apps that reroutes all sound to the BT headset, but it's kind of primitive; it just leaves the channel open all the time, and is mono at that. Why, oh why doesn't Android support this rather basic function???
Tell me there's already a way to do this, and I'll send you a million thanks while apologizing profusely for my denseness. Tell me it's coming in Honeycomb, and I'll be patient. If not, then I may think about offering a bounty to any programmer who can build an app that sits on the BT stack to reroute all sound when the phone is paired with the BT headset.
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One of the only shortcomings of my first Android phone is that incoming calls ring over the phone's speaker, even when paired with my Bluetooth headset. All I get in my ear is a beep. This doesn't help when my phone is in my pocket.
I know my Jawbone Icon supports this as it's compliant with all the latest standards. It worked perfectly on my now retired WinMo 6.5 phone using MSVC (which announced the caller's name on top of their ringtone). Given the lack of BT support on Android until Froyo -- or at least that's my perception -- I can only assume this feature still hasn't been implemented.
I found one of the apps that reroutes all sound to the BT headset, but it's kind of primitive; it just leaves the channel open all the time, and is mono at that. Why, oh why doesn't Android support this rather basic function???
Tell me there's already a way to do this, and I'll send you a million thanks while apologizing profusely for my denseness. Tell me it's coming in Honeycomb, and I'll be patient. If not, then I may think about offering a bounty to any programmer who can build an app that sits on the BT stack to reroute all sound when the phone is paired with the BT headset.
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Well said I have had this same problem since I moved fro WinMo 2 years ago... I am running Gingerbread on an Eris and as of the last 3.6 build, it will not even play the ringtone on the phone if it is paired. This is a new set back for Android and Bluetooth...I will help with the bounty...
I swear my S10HD just beeped at me on WM6.x, but I'd have to double check.
I have a 3 year old Pioneer that has bluetooth and is compatible with a tiny set of phones back in the day for reading texts. Needless to say the Bing Turn by Turn voice and SMS text to speech will not work when the device is connected. Is anyone having issues with in car bluetooth?
Yes, lot's of people, even before Mango. See link.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-problem/b53c64ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132
I'm hoping the final Mango build takes care of this.
Thanks for the link. My pioneer works fine for calls but not for maps or text to speech. Guess I have to decide which is more important.
For those of you that haven't heard, Siri Eyes Free is Apple's iPhone intergration with select Honda and Chevy cars.
What happens is that the car's interior microphone and the steering wheel voice button both act as a proxy to funnel input to the phone over bluetooth.
Did anyone hack together an Android app to work with iOS's input api? All I really want is to send text messages / initiate calls using google now voice.
I could get an iphone for testing. I have a laptop and a phone with bluetooth, if those can record the raw bluetooth signal
I picked up a car that has Siri Eyes Free (after a firmware update) and have an Android so I'm bumping this .
Nearly a year later I'll bump this as well. Any ideas here? Just moved from an iPhone and lack of voice integration over Bluetooth is a bummer. Thanks.
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Another bump on this for visbility and hopefully some additional useful information. Long story made short I recently got a new car, a Ford C-Max with MyFord Touch, that has Siri Eyes Free capability (as of v 3.6/3.8). Sadly the car I upgraded from had a cheap <$100 aftermarket radio that happily activated Google Now through the standard BT voice dial button and allowed me full hands free functionality and would like to get that back.
What I have found upon a little digging is Apple has published developer documentation which covers Eyes Free functionality:
https://developer.apple.com/hardwaredrivers/BluetoothDesignGuidelines.pdf
As someone who can somewhat understand and comprehend this information but couldn't code to save his life, it appears to be fairly simplistic and is just a handful of custom BT serial commands, simple back and forth request/acknowledge commands, and an SCO audio link. Most of the user interface setup seems like it may be on the accessory/head unit end rather than the phone.
I would love to take a whack at this but unfortunately would not know where to begin. My first thought is would something like this with the serial BT communication, establishing an audio link, and triggering Google Now, be able to all be done without root?
If anyone begins on this or also wants to have a go at it, I'd definitely be willing to help where I can including testing and debugging.
Here's my woe:
I want to be able to play my FM Radio (or CD, or USB stick - just any audio source I choose in my car) and hear Google Maps Navigation over my car spearkers. Currently I can do that if I listen to BT audio and listen to music from my phone.
My work phone is an Iphone 5s and it does this flawlessly because there's a checkbox option in google maps navigation settings "Play as Phone call" which allows it to work flawlessly. The Android app doesn't have that option. Why is that?
I have tried SoundAbout and it's terrible. Half the audio plays on the phone then it switches to my speakers and is terrible and skips words. As for other apps, I've tried BTmono, I've googled my fingers to nubs and tried every setting (turn off multimedia on the phone, on the car etc).
I'm wondering if I root this phone can I fix this at all? Or is there an alternative APK of maps with that option (maybe beta or something)
(Also can you get Google Now voice to go over the car audio like the iphone voice commands does natively, Google Now requires it to be in BT audio source as well.)
I also know this is not car specific because I tested it with a VW Passat with my phone and a Samsung Galaxy S5 and Motorola Droid something or another my coworker owns and it behaves the same in his car as well as mine.
This feature is absolutely frustrating and a dealbreaker for me. I'd happily just use my work phone in the car but anything on that phone is subject to FOIA from the general public. No thanks to that. I asked in another forum and they said it's because the iphone doesn't do a2dp or bluetooth audio out or whatever but that's not true, my iphone does play music over the bluetooth audio source. And I realize the iphone isn't as sophisticated, I'm android through and through, which is why this is making kittens cry blood for me.
Please help me. And Thank you so much for even reading!
Info:
Phone: Samsung Galaxy s6 (lollipop)
Car: 2012 Camry (No entune).
I've come back to the forums for this exact problem you are describing. I believe it's true that for Google Maps voice prompts, the iPhone will indeed route them using HFP (hands free protocol) to mimic a phone call, so your car will lower the radio volume and let the voice prompt through. As far as I can tell Android has no such similar feature, and yes it's annoying as heck. Since Google Maps works on iOS but not on Android, I can only conclude that this is some oversight by the Android team, or perhaps some kind of hardware limitation that Google doesn't think is worth spending money on.
I'm a bit surprised that after all my internet searching, this problem hasn't made a big enough fuss to get to Google's attention.
I wish they would fix this and am surprised more people are not making a fuss about it
I have made an app for that. It's called AudioBT on Google Play...
Two Years Later
And this is still an issue. And when connected to my truck via bluetooth it won't give voice directions through my phones speaker either. Hard to convince someone Android is better than ios when something that works so well with an iPhone doesn't work at all with an Android. Please fix this!