I just went to France for three weeks with my Sprint TP2 running Windows Mobile 6.5 (official Sprint upgrade, with Sprint SIM installed). I signed up for Sprint's unlimited data roaming plan before I left. When I arrived, my phone worked OK only for phone service with Sprint's European partners Orange F and F SFR - data roaming refused to work despite my following Sprint's written directions. I contacted Sprint and we tried various configuration changes, but after none of them worked, Sprint shipped me a Sprint TP2 running 6.1 (Sprint SIM) which worked fine for both phone and data roaming with default settings. Now I'm back in the US but would like to resolve the issue.
Questions for any XDA experts out there:
Where are the settings for SIM data roaming kept on the phone? (I couldn't find relevant settings in the TP2 Registry.)
Are there particular settings I should change to allow data roaming?
Are there any 'hidden' settings that might resolve this problem?
Could 6.5 have caused a problem that didn't exist in 6.1?
Any other ideas? Let me know if you need more information.
Many thanks!
not sure what settings they gave you.. but i can direct you in one place:
comm manager -> settings (right bottom soft key) -> Phone -> this is where i would go ..... check out network tab and GSM/UMTS services tab... use Get Settings to look deeper
let me know if that helps
There are a few likely possibilities:
1) The original SIM account information was improperly setup as voice only (quite likely).
2) The default connection info wasn't configured in the connection tab with the GSM data, and was still trying to connect to #777 (CDMA data line). This would obviously fail.
WM6.5 should work fine with data on both GSM and CDMA.
In the connections settings under manage existing connections you need to have the following to have Sprint dataroaming on GSM
Access Point = cinet.spcs
Server assigned IP and DNS
Thanks for the replies. As you could tell, I'm not an expert on this issue, and I've noticed that different versions of the TP2 apparently have different menu structures. So I have some follow-up questions:
For gamescan:
"1) The original SIM account information was improperly setup as voice only (quite likely)." Is this something that only Sprint can change, or something I can modify on my phone? (I would assume it's phone-specific, as the otherwise identical TP2 Sprint shipped me worked properly for data roaming.)
"2) The default connection info wasn't configured in the connection tab with the GSM data, and was still trying to connect to #777 (CDMA data line). This would obviously fail." Where exactly is that setting on a Sprint phone? I haven't been able to find it yet.
Thank you for the reassurance that 6.5 should work properly.
For highc:
"In the connections settings under manage existing connections you need to have the following to have Sprint dataroaming on GSM
"Access Point = cinet.spcs
"Server assigned IP and DNS"
Where are these settings on a Sprint 6.5 phone? I would have assumed that they're somewhere on the Comm Manager page, but I can't find the above under Phone or under Data Connection.
For mboguc:
The Get Settings button for GSM doesn't seem to have any settings that relate to data or data roaming. The only settings relating to roaming seem to be on the Get Settings tab for CDMA, which weren't accessible in Europe w/ GSM.
Again, I appreciate the feedback and hope to be able to narrow down the problem with assistance.
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections
The phone settings and Comm Manager are both wrong places to be looking.
"Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections
"The phone settings and Comm Manager are both wrong places to be looking."
Thanks.
However, as noted above, menus vary depending on phone carrier and OS version. HTC has hidden the Windows Phone menus pretty well in 6.5. For my Sprint TP2 running 6.5, I have the following options for Start -> Settings:
Personalize (wallpaper, etc)
Wireless Controls (Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, mobile networks, push mail)("..wrong place..")
Sound & Display
Data Services (options for ActiveSync, social networks, e-mail, etc)
Location (set location service options)
Security (encryption, phone lock and reset)
Application (remove programs, etc)
SD card & phone storage (view available storage)
Date & Time
Locale & text
Updates & feedback
Other (miscellaneous settings - none appear to be relevant)
About phone (battery status, device info)
Nothing resembling Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections here... The Tools menu has Comm Manager, but as you note, it's apparently not what I'm looking for. No other relevant options under Tools.
Any other suggestions? Thanks.
Oh, sorry. I usually run with Sense disabled.
Just disable it in the Today menu senttings and it'll be easy to find. Bring up the Today settings and then uncheck "HTC Sense" under the items menu.
Go back to the home screen and viola, you have the vanilla Win 6.5 interface. It's faster than sense and everything is where it belongs.
You can always re-enable Sense if you want it after making your changes.
"Oh, sorry. I usually run with Sense disabled."
Ahh, thanks, yes that lets me get to Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections
This turns out to be the same as Start -> Settings -> Wireless Controls -> Phone -> Data Connection in Sense. Under that menu, I have two choices, Sprint and My Work Network. I gather from the above comments that the necessary fixes should be under Sprint -> Manage Existing Connections (not under My Work Network).
I assume Existing Connections is where highc's recommendations would go:
"Access Point = cinet.spcs
"Server assigned IP and DNS"
Of course, now that I'm back in the US, the only things there are for Sprint/CDMA; there's nothing there related to GSM data connections on either the Sprint 6.1 phone or my 6.5 phone... I assume there was something while I was there?
Are the GSM-related "existing settings" documented anywhere? There are quite a few choices, and I certainly don't want to brick my phone . And are these settings stored somewhere in the Registry?
You can have multiple data connections setup in there. That's the standard Windows Mobile location for what is basically dial-up networking settings.
Each "connection" is nothing more than a specialized number for an ISP (typically your carrier). You set a default connection and then the phone uses that whenever you initiate a data call.
If you switch to GSM mode and are runing off a SIM, this is where you would put the data call information for that carrier.
You cannot brick your phone by editing these settings. At worst you'll end up disabling data, but a quick call to your carrier will get you the settings necessary to get it back.
Anything that is stored on your phone will be visible here.
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I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
I think all you have to do is delete the connection. Click the start menu then settings then connections and connections again. Then click on manage existing connections. Then take your stylus and hold it down on the connection name, for example for me it is tmobile, until a pop up box comes saying delete and connect. Tap on delete and your gprs settings are gone and you cannot connect.
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
Goto Settings/Connections
Choose Connections, got to Advanced tab.
In "Programsthat automatically connect to internet should connect using:"
choose "My ISP". Or create new one with empty parameters..
Have fun....
deleted connection
Thanks for the easy solution (I like those types). I went ahead and deleted the GPRS connection. Things are behaving just the way I wanted !
jeeb75 said:
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
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stylus???
hmmm...I think SP5m does not have touch screen.
BTW: window mobile and window mobile smartphone are totally different OS.
humptybump said:
I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
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This is not an easy solution to your request, but I just upgraded my QTEK 8300 to the latest Imate SP5M ROM and noticed that under the COMM Manager one can "Stop Data Services" by moving the joy stick to the icon or hitting number "5". It immediately stops the Data Flow (at least the G) disappears in the header. Not sure it is really stopping Data because when I go to WiFi and open IE, the G reappears. Might be due to the way I have my Cingular connections set up. I'll experiement some more and re-post later. I like the new ROM, snappier, the radio is much better in that I get a much better signal where I'm at.
Here's how you disable GPRS/EDGE Auto connect!!
Start > Settings > Connections > Manage my connections > Then just point to the list item and hold down until the menu pop up and select delete. Do it to all the items there such as T-Mobile / AT&T or Winmodem..etc... after you deleted everything and you go back to the connections page you will see "Add a new modem connection" under My ISP. Do not delete anything under "My Work Network"... Hope this help.
You can use Modaco NoData to disable GPRS/EDGE =D
Have a nice day
.. So every time I reboot it wants to take me to the connection settings (I've already set up my GPRS/3G and it works fine), and the phone always thinks I'm roaming.
Also, according to my providers webpage (It's Simyo in Spain) they keep sending me config SMS's but they don't seem to be received.
Can anyone help? Thanks
By the way I have Googled this and found lots of references to the connection wizard but I can't find it. If I go to settings -> connections -> connections, then I just get "Simyo" with 'add connection' and 'manage connections' below it, and a similar set of links for 'my work connection'
Never mind, I found the connection setup, it just wasn't showing in the settings menu of Bell UI.
Sorry, I'll mark this solved now.
[edit: Oh I can't change the thread title...]
I bought an HTC Touch2 (unbranded) and for whatever reason I can not change the "Network selection" to "Manual".
The "Phone -> Menu -> Options... -> Network" screen didn't even contain any settings besides "Find Network".
A quick google found the policy setting reliable for it and changing "HKLM\Security\phone\ManualDisable = 0" does bring the desired setting temporarily back.
However, after a reboot the key changes back to 0. (Could fix that with a program in autostart.)
However even with the setting enabled I can not change it to manual selection. The moment I try to select a network from the list I get the following error message: "Cannot register on selected network. Choose another network, or disconnect you data connection." (I have not data connection open.)
Any ideas?
Help would be appreciated!
Christian
I thought it might be a TouchFlo issue, as the Band selection is gone as well but accessable through TouchFlo.
But the settings are available on the HTC Touch pro2. I am really annoyed about this issue, as I deliberatly bought an unbranded device to avoid having to hack it -> if I wanted that pleasure I would have bought an i-thing.
I was able to identify the registry keys changed by the setting:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneNetSelMode]
"ManualNet"="11122"
"Option"=dword:00000001
111 = the desired networks MCC
22 = the desired networks MNC
I will try out if setting the keys manually will have the desired effect or if they will get set back automatically after reboot. Should that work I might just write an app to set them. (Somehow I doubt it though.)
Is there a contact for HTC one can contact for this kind of enquires?
Just in case anybody else has the same issue.
it turned out that the SIM card sent an ADPU command to the ME on initialization that told the OS to disable the functions.
So running my batch was overwritten every time the phone reconnected to the network.
Getting a different SIM card solved that issue.
i have this same exact problem. i don't mind buying a new simcard, but before i do how can i be sure i'm buying one that doesn't send the adpu command to reset the registry? i doubt the guys at the store i buy the simcard from will have a clue what i'm talking about. i have a really old sim from cingular before they were bought by att, which is my current provider.
do you have a script or batch that i can run on my phone manually to set the registry? i'm using ceregeditor now but if i don't have a computer then i need to be able to set this key using just the phone.
thanks!
Moved to QnA, not dev related.
I am visiting Australia for 3 months this summer and was hoping to use my TP2 with a Virgin Mobile Australia SIM card for voice and data. From searching the forum it looks as if I am going to need some setting for data access, and possible to disable CMGuardian.
When I have used my UK Orange or Italian TIM SIM in my Motorola Razr under Tools I see some SIM specific menu items for checking credit, recharging etc. Will I see the same things in the TP2 once it make a connection?
I would appreciate any suggestions for anybody who has used a GSM SIM for data access.
Thanks
No you need to contact the provider and find out the settings for data
GSM Overseas settings
Now in Australia, I have had to adjust several settings and I want to pass on what I learned. After inserting the Virgin Mobile SIM, don't forget to switch to GSM only. There are some CDMA services in Australia and you don't want to roam onto them or you will be paying the Sprint Roaming rates. The Virgin SIM did not show up as an icon under settings and tools the way that other SIM cards have.
I found my phone worked as a phone, GPS worked and it would go on the internet thru Opera. However, at first it would not access my email and required me to dial local calls in Australia as if they were long distance.
I found I needed to change the Global Smart Dialing settings which can be found under Phone, Menu, Global Smart Dialing (need to scroll down to see this option on the Menu). Change the "dialing from" to the correct number required before country code. So for Australia, where you dial 00 before the country code when dialing out internationally, selecting Australia will change the 011 (used when dialing from the USA) to 00.
Next I needed to change the dialing rules. Go to Start, Settings, Menu, All Settings, Connections, Connections, Advanced Tab, Dialing Rules. I ticked the box for "use dialing rules", and edited the rules for Mobile, Work and Home to use the Australia country code of 61 and blanked the area code. I think I could have got the same result by editing the dialing pattern for local calls to remove the E and the F so that local calls did not have the country code or area code prefixed to them.
To fix the Email issue, I had to go to my email accounts by going to the Inbox, Menu, Tools, Options and tapping on each email setup in turn. Once in an email setup, select "Edit Account Settings" and tap Next 4 times to get to Advanced Server Settings. Here there is a drop down list of Network connections. I had to change mine from "The Internet" to VirginGPRS.
NOTE: Have not had a chance to try this, but probably the easier way to fix the email issue is to go to Start, Settings, Connections, Connections, Advanced tab and under Programs that automatically......should connect using "VirginGPRS" or whatever service you are using.
At this point I have phone calls, local SMS, internet and email working. I still have a problem with international SMS.
I am sure somebody understands this better than me and perhaps their is a more elegant way of doing this, but at least it worked.
Been using Raphael for nearly two years on vodafone, no problems. It was a contract phone. Unlocked out of the box, flashed spl and elite rc3 the next day. also no problems whatsoever.
Now, bought another phone and let my missus have Raph. All is good and well but for the life of me i cant figure out how to add a messaging center number, since the phone cannot SEND texts. Fine with receiving though.
Whats tried:
1. Settings > Personal > Phone > Services > VMail and Text Messages > Get settings.
Result - Reading from network and then network error, reading "Cannot read settings from the network. Try viewing settings later or disconnect data connection and try again." Data connection is on, but it can be more of the same - settings are wrong for data connection. Also tried to use my wifi as data - no dice.
2. Settings > Connections > Advanced Network > SMS Setvice > set to GSM (Originally "GSM Preferred").
Other sources indicate that its HERE that should be messahing center number filled in, but there are no fillable fields apart from pulldown to change "SMS Over", options are GSM, GSM Preferred, GPRS, GPRS Preferred. And thats it...
The card i try to run is O2 Pay-Go.
I'm out of ideas. Help...
#UPDATE# Sorted !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433433
Daaaamn.... never thought it would be something this twisted... Worked though...