For me:
BA size with Wizard style keyboard
WIfi, BT, IR
3G, EDGE
VGA screen with video accelerator hardware
4GB flash storage and 128MB ram
wm5
how about you?
Ah - cool question!
It would:
Be capable of multi boot - WM, linux, whatever takes your fancy
The phone would be fully integrated into the unit, not just 'added on' so as to permit things like answering machine software and proper call recording
Have a virtual keyboard built in (as in http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/)
All the standard stuff built in: SD/SDIO, Wifi, BT, IR with a decent range (unlike my Himalaya)
Modular construction - I'd love to be able to upgrade as time went on: new cpu, expanded ram, etc.
I'll stop now - I'm starting to drool!
tvout ?
support for a joypad kinda thing to play games better?
a frigging laser! _8
better bt stack
be able to do usb master
surround sound jk
extreme long batt support
a univsersal kinda thing but much thinner and be able to close and be able to take some punishment so i dont need a case
build in FM radio and DAB radion
build in tv tuner and digital tv tuner
I am not a fussy woman so as long as its got predictive text, takes decent pictures and you can hear people without having to hang out of the window, its fine by me.
my dream pda phone would use digital paper technology to roll up inside the body of a pen (fully functional for use on traditional paper) when not in use.
I was wondering what would be a DREAM Phone could be like which can be reality with todays tech or 2 yrs from now.
Keeping HTC HD2 Specs as standard, what the other features you would like to see in future Phone of HTC's.
To keep it easy i have some ideas (may be stolen )
Suggest yours (Be realistic - dont suggest a 10X optical zoom cam or a mini drilling machine.)
Video Out analog + digital
USB Host
FM Transmitter
Thermometer + Humudity ctrl would be a plus
Dual Sim in world phone mode
Battery larger than 1500 Mhz
Solar Charger
HD Videos Player
3D Graphics Engine with HW acceleration
Four Hardware buttons near edges for Playing Games
I don't mean to be rude, but your list doesn't get close to the sort of things that I would like to see in ideal a device. In no particular order:
Picture Camera; 3-5mp No more than 5 as too many pixels for a small sensor would render the pictures too noisy. Decent optics and a proper flash (not LED) with manual as well as auto. Digital only zoom would be fine, with the option to specify size/resolution. Able to record HD video with zoom (without assisted lighting).
Front Camera; for voice calls, but more importantly available as a webcam for voip and messaging applications. 640x480 and capable of 25fps. Able to record.
GPS; assisted GPS with voice turn by turn navigation software, downloadable maps of all available territories, capable of walking and cycling modes as well as driving.
Compass; to assist the above standalone as a walking tool and also integrated with the GPS for streetview.
FM radio; not requiring headset as aerial so it can be played through the device speaker(s) or a bluetooth headset. FM transmitter.
Video; able to play HD video and support for accelerated flash videos.
Connectors; HD Video out, stereo out via standard 3.5" jack. USB connector for charging and supporting USB host.
IR; transmitter receiver with programmable (both the IR codes and the button appearance and grouping) multi-device remote control application. Good range transmitter.
Screen; Large resolution (capable of widescreen HD) AMOLED capacitive touch screen with a small capacitive compatible stylus built in to the phone.
Phone; Voice and video phone with integrated Voip. Dual Sim where both can be active (with separate controls for ring, vibrate, and silent) or individually disabled and password protected.
Sound; stereo with decent bass and volume. Full media player including video, audio, and lossless formats.
Networking; GSM and 3G with top current specs and multi-band (ideally able to support voice and data in Europe, Japan, and the USA - although this is a point that can be compromised on given its impracticality). Wireless-n compatible wifi. Tethering (and ethernet) via bluetooth and USB port.
Memory; large program memory (1GB?), large ROM for OS and built-in apps, large storage (16Gb) microSD slot (HCSD high speed).
Processor; 1.5Gb Snapdragon.
Barrery; large capacity >12hrs talk time >240hrs standby >6hrs video playback
OS: Linux kernel with root access android.
Form factor; Like the Touch HD.
Now although close, this is unachievable at present (combining form factor and battery life for example). I strongly doubt anything like it will exist any time soon (despite the wishlist not being that outrageous on an individual item by item basis). It would be ideal, though.
My old SPV e100 had a thermometer!
Id like TV out. I plug the laptop into the tv, but then I cant browse the net! Nightmare!
I don't mean to be rude, but your list doesn't get close to the sort of things that I would like to see in ideal a device. In no particular order:
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No Problem Mate : Even i was thinking the same after posting.
However i agree with your ideal device exept i just want it to be running Win Os as i use a pc a lot so hacking / modifing is lot easier.
now coming to the post...
USB host with video out (digital) can completely elminate netbook / notebooks as we can connect a full desktop keybaord adn monitor ...few ppl at my work place hav asked for such technology...
My wishlist for a dream device
2Ghz processor
1Gb RAM
HTC Universal unbeatable form factor
4" VGA pivoting screen
Slim and nice design
A hardware keyboard
5Mpx camera
Front VGA camera
quadband
3G capable in México
Included all the great business features in Rhodium, like conference call
Maybe 2012.........
I want a usb port so i can plug in flash drives and extra hard ware. i also want at least dual micro sd card slots.
and i want it to look similar to the universal but with a screen that nearly takes up the whole lid plus more hard ware buttons.
Based on nexus one hardware (OLED 480*800, good memory, processor), i.e. best features of HD2 and Omnia 2
More hardware buttons (possibly detachable)
3.5mm audio line-in
Compass (good idea trendend)
Dual microsd slots (giving 2*32Gb storage)
USB host (unlikely!)
Software:
Nice new Windows Mobile without the niggles
An audio application 1/10 as good as rockbox
A working version of skype
A proper Onenote mobile, syncing to the cloud
Gaming platform (not that I'd use it, but it would help WM to progress)
Some things I don't see the need for:
FM radio: obsolete with internet?
Video out: I guess this is for showing off to friends, but are you likely to have the right cable to hand?
Thermometer/humidity: does this integrate with anything else the phone does? Otherwise just get an analog one and glue it to your phone!
CSMR said:
Some things I don't see the need for:
FM radio: obsolete with internet?
Video out: I guess this is for showing off to friends, but are you likely to have the right cable to hand?
Thermometer/humidity: does this integrate with anything else the phone does? Otherwise just get an analog one and glue it to your phone!
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FM Radio is ubiquitous and of high quality. Still the best option for local news and sport as well as traffic reports. I like FM radio and don't want to carry a separate device. Video out becomes more useful when the device can record video. Shoot video, edit it, show it on a big screen. I'd rather carry a cable than another dedicated device and a cable.
As for temperature/humidity. I'm not particularly interested in it built into the device, because calibration could be a nightmare (given the device itself generates heat). I could be interested in remote devices (that connect via the USB host, perhaps?) with the likes of themocouples, pressure sensors, heart rate monitors, pulse oximeters. That could be useful with the right software....
I'm talking about my dream device. I do not require you to subscribe to my dreams. In return I'll stay out of yours.
Not perfect, but I'd probably settle for Something like this. Except with android.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/help/how-xz-premium-vr-support-daydream-t3622696
I got help from the above article.
so I am using daydream as 4k / 2k.
1. Use adb to change the resolution to 4k / 2k.
2. Use the attached 4k / 2k qr code.
3. Enable the skip vr entry scene in Day Dream Developer option.
4. Turn off nfc.
5. Use Daydream.
Attached
Daydream qr code is the manufacturer value extracted from the Daydream View 2017 nfc information.
https://www.reddit.com/r/daydream/comments/7pb37p/qr_code_for_daydream_view_2017_version/
Original / 2k / 4k
With lens
Screen distance 40 / 40 * 1.5 = 60 / 40 * 2 = 80
Distance between lenses 64 / 64 * 1.5 = 96 / 64 * 2 = 128
Bottom-center distance 35 / 35 * 1.5 = 52.5 / 35 * 2 = 70
Distortion
k1 = 0.4331
k2 = -0.085
Four 'fov figures' are 55.
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How to activate daydream service
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/7-0-enable-google-daydream-root-t3525848
Daydream by pass (release app limits)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo.../spoofing-daydream-compatible-device-t3534943
Beyond the sexual and monetary moralism surrounding virtual reality devices, I just want to know the truth.
I think. Xz Premium is the highest visual quality of all virtual reality devices for use with YouTube Vr Platform.
I might be telling a lie. I'm just curious.
4k ips That's great. Video quality.
(Pimax 4K is similar panel)
Low latency could be a problem.
But I had no problem viewing flat screen videos.
I liked the movie watching very much with Xzp.
One could say
the daydream view 2017 fov is narrow..
Netflix vr has a film, Pacific Rim.
Watch this movie. If you use big screen size with Daydream View 2017, you don't understand the movie action scenes. Symbol recognition fov of a human being is 60 degree.
I think..
Daydream View 2017 is great for movie watching..
There are already sufficient viewing fov to watch movies.
I think..
4k ips came close to the experience of looking at PC monitors.
I wonder if I was wrong..
I wonder if people just don't know..
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Further information...
Oreo rom is good working in 4k/2k vr.
not nougat..
In nougat..
The screen is stained.
Kernel problem?
Sadly, I have no ability.
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moonlight for daydream
https://www.reddit.com/r/daydream/comments/877mcp/moonlight_for_daydream_stream_your_pc/
It is an app to stream 'PC screen Itself' with high video quality wirelessly.
'Wireless'
I think...
Netflix vr has a video quality of 500 ~ 600p
With this app,
more than 1080p netflix video contents enjoying is possible.
This app works for only nougat..
Operating in nougat..not oreo.
Sometimes the screen gets stained.
if reboot, ok..
I want to use this app and 4k/2k vr at the same time.
If so, the app should work in Oreo or there should be no spot problem in Nougat.
Can someone solve this problem?
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[Problem is Solved]
How to use xzp for vr big screen(subtitle: Moonlight for daydream in Oreo)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/guide-how-to-xzp-vr-screensubtitle-t3816442
That's great Man! Thanks for sharing! But the Title... lol
I will share it on My Patch since i just enabled Hard/Software Support for Daydream / VR with the coming Update. Hope it delivers the wished Quality and that the 4K Display switch Option on AOSP soon works again on Oreo...
For now works just the ADB Command.
BR
Edit: Would be interesting how good this works on top of My Patch on AOSP since it has full Support for Daydream and VR (Including Configs, Permissions and Settings + Play Store App Compatibility). Will release it soon and hope somone can test it with a Daydream Headset...
Miustone said:
That's great Man! Thanks for sharing! But the Title... lol
I will share it on My Patch since i just enabled Hard/Software Support for Daydream / VR with the coming Update. Hope it delivers the wished Quality and that the 4K Display switch Option on AOSP soon works again on Oreo...
For now works just the ADB Command.
BR
Edit: Would be interesting how good this works on top of My Patch on AOSP since it has full Support for Daydream and VR (Including Configs, Permissions and Settings + Play Store App Compatibility). Will release it soon and hope somone can test it with a Daydream Headset...
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That sounds very interesting - I will test this in the near future.
I don't get the thread title though , but I can say the XZp has a much clearer image than my Oculus Rift or my last phone (Galaxy S6). But it is only really good for using a vr setup that doesn't require to move your head. I use VRTV as my player, not the perfect app but pretty near to perfect, if Daydream will ever work on my XZP again, I'll test DeoVR , which is in my opinion the best player for PC/Oculus and hopefully for android as well
onkelfeix said:
That sounds very interesting - I will test this in the near future.
I don't get the thread title though , but I can say the XZp has a much clearer image than my Oculus Rift or my last phone (Galaxy S6). But it is only really good for using a vr setup that doesn't require to move your head. I use VRTV as my player, not the perfect app but pretty near to perfect, if Daydream will ever work on my XZP again, I'll test DeoVR , which is in my opinion the best player for PC/Oculus and hopefully for android as well
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Awesome to hear from someone who can compare the Quality! I was never a fan of this Headmoving Stuff. SONY HMD was the true sh** when it comes to a great Head Mounted Display Experience and as a Gamer to i still prefer to move the View Field with My Mouse instead of using Sensor. I can just recommend this kind of using even with VR Headsets. Less shaky and a lot more Precisely!
Another Question, Is heat a Problem on Your actual Setup? I can ensure it will be much cooler at all with AOSP and the Patch. Just played a Dungeon Session Shadowgun Ledgens on Ultra Settings with 60FPS and i got almost no heat or Performance Issues. It's incredible how big the difference to Stock is...
I'm also one of the Founders from Riftcat (VRidge), and i can really recommend it btw. I also bought Moonlight but i was never able to use it as HMD (Without Headtracking). It would be Ultra Killer to have a Way to use the XZP as a 4K Head Mounted Display with this two Services. Would be really thankfull for any Ideas (Mainly using the PC for Video and Work, just sold My GTX 1060)!
And a last Thing i have to say after reading Your reply again. The XZP doesn't supports VR with Hardware or Software (But it could) on Stock right!? The funny Thing is, i really enabled full Support for it. You can choose between Flicker Reducing or Sharpness in the Display Settings, and it allows You to setup Daydream on the normal Way. Visit the Play Store, Download the Daydream App (VR main Services are included in the Patch) and set it up. It does also support advanced Daydream Options and it handles the VR Services over advanced profiles which are involving the Hardware and the Software Parts of Android (Full Support). So it should be a huge upgrade compared to Stock. And AOSP has also Options for the Display Resolution / Frequency (Which are not working yet), which could be the perfect addition to that (Switching between Options without ADB).
I would really appreciate to hear from You what You can reach with the Patch and AOSP! Sadly do i not own a Daydream Headset (Just a Chinese Cardboard which collects Dust), or any other Kind of VR Headset so i can't fully test everything. But i think i will go to buy a Daydream 2017 Headset when i have some Money again. Would really like to use My PC on My XZP Screen...
Can't wait to know more about all this! BR :highfive:
onkelfeix said:
That sounds very interesting - I will test this in the near future.
I don't get the thread title though , but I can say the XZp has a much clearer image than my Oculus Rift or my last phone (Galaxy S6). But it is only really good for using a vr setup that doesn't require to move your head. I use VRTV as my player, not the perfect app but pretty near to perfect, if Daydream will ever work on my XZP again, I'll test DeoVR , which is in my opinion the best player for PC/Oculus and hopefully for android as well
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I've always used the vrtv, my best player ^^
It plays on the Sony 4K panel without adb command.
Daydream Skybox app
can also be used with 4K panel using adb command.
I haven't used deo vr,
but I'm looking forward to a great experience.^^
I do not know about PC vr device( Samsung Odyssey was put on for a while, and tracking was great.)
but I think it is okay to flat video watching head tracking. Move less than one expected.
I think smartphone head tracking capability is poor and there may be a problem there. Instead, Xzp video quality is supplementary.
I think
not suitable heavy game.
suitable video watching like youtube vr, casual game, 2d screen game..
I look forward to your response with experience as I can not use a large number of vr equipment.
thanks your reply^^
Miustone said:
That's great Man! Thanks for sharing! But the Title... lol
I will share it on My Patch since i just enabled Hard/Software Support for Daydream / VR with the coming Update. Hope it delivers the wished Quality and that the 4K Display switch Option on AOSP soon works again on Oreo...
For now works just the ADB Command.
BR
Edit: Would be interesting how good this works on top of My Patch on AOSP since it has full Support for Daydream and VR (Including Configs, Permissions and Settings + Play Store App Compatibility). Will release it soon and hope somone can test it with a Daydream Headset...
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Thank you for your interest and effort. ^^
I donate you 100 dollars.
I wish you could use it to buy a daydream headset.
I'll give you feedback on your efforts.^^
I don't care what the consequences are.
I wish you a good time~
Miustone said:
Awesome to hear from someone who can compare the Quality! I was never a fan of this Headmoving Stuff. SONY HMD was the true sh** when it comes to a great Head Mounted Display Experience and as a Gamer to i still prefer to move the View Field with My Mouse instead of using Sensor. I can just recommend this kind of using even with VR Headsets. Less shaky and a lot more Precisely!
Another Question, Is heat a Problem on Your actual Setup? I can ensure it will be much cooler at all with AOSP and the Patch. Just played a Dungeon Session Shadowgun Ledgens on Ultra Settings with 60FPS and i got almost no heat or Performance Issues. It's incredible how big the difference to Stock is...
I'm also one of the Founders from Riftcat (VRidge), and i can really recommend it btw. I also bought Moonlight but i was never able to use it as HMD (Without Headtracking). It would be Ultra Killer to have a Way to use the XZP as a 4K Head Mounted Display with this two Services. Would be really thankfull for any Ideas (Mainly using the PC for Video and Work, just sold My GTX 1060)!
And a last Thing i have to say after reading Your reply again. The XZP doesn't supports VR with Hardware or Software (But it could) on Stock right!? The funny Thing is, i really enabled full Support for it. You can choose between Flicker Reducing or Sharpness in the Display Settings, and it allows You to setup Daydream on the normal Way. Visit the Play Store, Download the Daydream App (VR main Services are included in the Patch) and set it up. It does also support advanced Daydream Options and it handles the VR Services over advanced profiles which are involving the Hardware and the Software Parts of Android (Full Support). So it should be a huge upgrade compared to Stock. And AOSP has also Options for the Display Resolution / Frequency (Which are not working yet), which could be the perfect addition to that (Switching between Options without ADB).
I would really appreciate to hear from You what You can reach with the Patch and AOSP! Sadly do i not own a Daydream Headset (Just a Chinese Cardboard which collects Dust), or any other Kind of VR Headset so i can't fully test everything. But i think i will go to buy a Daydream 2017 Headset when i have some Money again. Would really like to use My PC on My XZP Screen...
Can't wait to know more about all this! BR :highfive:
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Carbonrom + snappatch
It doesn't go over daydream vr entry screen.
I can't get to the next step on the controller setup screen.
stock rom v1848. It runs well.
I haven't checked more anything else.
Sony Oreo stock Rom are well run but the screen brightness turns dark during long time using 4K setting vr because of the heat problem.
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Daydream View 2017 headset is recommended. It is comfortable-fit, lightweight, and has good fov and very little misting. First of all, It has a 'heat sink'.
https://www.virtual-reality-shop.co.uk/
There is a best-seller baofeng mosing s1.
It is known as the current mobile best fov.
I bought it.
For xzp, size do not fit, so further work is required.
There is a misting. can't use glasses. I think fov is fine but that doesn't get ahead of Daydream view 2017 quality.
Fov is less interested when adjusted.
I eventually use a Daydream view 2017 headset.
Fov small, awkward sense of wearing,
but untouchable video quality is Antvr.
For image quality, sometimes I use antvr.
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That's all.
I can give you information now~
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Wow, seems that this thread is starting to skyrocket
I will take my time and read everything again, currently at work and a bit in a rush....
With my current setup ( g8141, turbo p75d rom , vrtv , bobovr z5 headset with daydream compatible controller, with sitesinvr calibration ) I have no heat issues (my galaxy s6 got so hot after just some minutes , that it would be more safe to wear aramid fibre gloves..... ) and the image is not distorted.
The manual "sharpness setting" the headset is offering seems to end right at the position the image is getting sharper for me, if the phones display is moved 1-2mm further away from the lenses, it might be even better, but not possible.
So maybe this is something that can be dealt with on the software side. (I remember the Oculus, DeoVR software offered a sharpness slider which did magic to some videos.... )
@Miustone: What I've read about your Snappatch is that you can alter the max bitrate limits etc which the snapdragon835 is able to play? Being able to play higher resolutions than regular 4K would be great as well.
Anyway I'm highly interested in testing this, even though this is completely new for me. Have never been using an aosp rom, has always been a little bit too debloated for me.
onkelfeix said:
Wow, seems that this thread is starting to skyrocket
I will take my time and read everything again, currently at work and a bit in a rush....
With my current setup ( g8141, turbo p75d rom , vrtv , bobovr z5 headset with daydream compatible controller, with sitesinvr calibration ) I have no heat issues (my galaxy s6 got so hot after just some minutes , that it would be more safe to wear aramid fibre gloves..... ) and the image is not distorted.
The manual "sharpness setting" the headset is offering seems to end right at the position the image is getting sharper for me, if the phones display is moved 1-2mm further away from the lenses, it might be even better, but not possible.
So maybe this is something that can be dealt with on the software side. (I remember the Oculus, DeoVR software offered a sharpness slider which did magic to some videos.... )
@Miustone: What I've read about your Snappatch is that you can alter the max bitrate limits etc which the snapdragon835 is able to play? Being able to play higher resolutions than regular 4K would be great as well.
Anyway I'm highly interested in testing this, even though this is completely new for me. Have never been using an aosp rom, has always been a little bit too debloated for me.
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you are right.
From my experience..
In general use, there are no heat problems.
In general use Youtube vr operates at 1080p.
there are no heat problems.
but image is blurry.
In general use Youtube cardboard option, vrtv is 4k working. but youtube vr is not 4k working.
In adb, qr code setup use Youtube vr is 4k working.
Image is sharpness like youtube cardboard.
but heat problem..
In high temperature and sony stock oreo, the screen turns dark brightness automatically. but There is nothing wrong with the performance.
D daydream said:
Thank you for your interest and effort. ^^
I donate you 100 dollars.
I wish you could use it to buy a daydream headset.
I'll give you feedback on your efforts.^^
I don't care what the consequences are.
I wish you a good time~
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Hey Mate!
Just want to thank You before accepting the Donation! I promise that i do buy the latest Daydream Headset in Order to make the Patch fully supporting it! You really openend up a big World for Me!
You will get a Special Place on My Patch Threads for allowing Me to get the Hardware for My Development! Really appreciate it, and i'll let You know here with some Pics how it goes from now!
Looking forward to that! Thanks again!
BR
EDIT: Just bought one on Ebay and it will hopefully come very soon!
Think i can say a lot more about all this VR Stuff after being able to use it by myself. That will surely help a lot to bring this forward. And great side effect, i still have My Axon 7, means i can test a official supported Daydream Device too. Should be great to compare!
Miustone said:
Hey Mate!
Just want to thank You before accepting the Donation! I promise that i do buy the latest Daydream Headset in Order to make the Patch fully supporting it! You really openend up a big World for Me!
You will get a Special Place on My Patch Threads for allowing Me to get the Hardware for My Development! Really appreciate it, and i'll let You know here with some Pics how it goes from now!
Looking forward to that! Thanks again!
BR
EDIT: Just bought one on Ebay and it will hopefully come very soon!
Think i can say a lot more about all this VR Stuff after being able to use it by myself. That will surely help a lot to bring this forward. And great side effect, i still have My Axon 7, means i can test a official supported Daydream Device too. Should be great to compare!
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I saw the special place. I love it^^
Thank you very much for your courtesy to me.
I just want to share my vr experience about Xzp.
I'm looking forward to your work.
Anywhere in the world, I don't find detailed comparison between 2k oled and 4k ips smartphone vr experience.
All devices is not perfect.
there are good points and bad points
there is a good place to use.
I was curious.
Although good video performance,
xzp can not be mentioned in vr battleground.
there are any advantages to use xzp,
I would like to let it know for people.
Someone may use vr with xzp for the first time
because of this thread.
I'll leave a brief piece of information for xzp users.
It's no big deal. People who are interested and experienced may know.
However,
it is better to avoid the stress of first vr experience.
Everything from my experience.
It is subjective. This may not be the correct answer.
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1.
feel dizzy when use it for the first time.
adaptation Period 2 - 3 days.
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2.
Wear glasses for the low visibility person.
If vr has a focal adjustment function.
With focal adjustment, you can adjust the focus.
you can see well.
but tired eyes after longtime use.
because the image is so close to eyes.
with glasses,
the image is approximately 1m close to eyes.
1m is comfortable distance for eyes.
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3.
Each piece of vr headset has its own point of good focus sweet spot. In sweet spot, There's less of a color diffusion. You'll have your own way.
Tips for wearing most vr headset.
It is good to feel comfortable to adjust wearing straps so that it adheres to the forehead with small amount of load on cheekbone.
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4.
qr code calibration.
I recommand Sitesinvr.com.
There is a famous headset qr code.
It is also possible to create a personal qr code using the sitesinvr app in play store.
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5.
Xz premium is not dream ready phone.
there is nfc bug.
When using a daydream view 2017 headset or third-party headset, Nfc error message will continue to pop up.
solution.
Feel free to apply anything according to circumstances.
1)
In daydream developer option,
enable skip vr entry scene option
and turn off nfc.
2)
use airplane mode and turn off nfc.
3)
Between the front cover and the smartphone,
attach a piece of 'foil'. No error message occurs even if nfc turn on.
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6.
There is a 'drift' issue with all smartphones, gyro sensor, compass.
Even all the vr equipment.
but, Smartphone in particular
To be honest, there is no perfect solution.
I am very sorry about this...
It could be the biggest enemy about Smartphone vr development.
edit.
but we can buy external sensor for daydream.
(now I got information..i'm searching.)
Is Daydream with external sensor called smartphone vr?
Anyway xzp is used.
edit. I don't find useful information.
this inormation is unclear.
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Drift solution
1) Compass correction.
2) Gyro sensor calibration.
3) avoid Electromagnetic effects.
In vr use I dont't use anything but only daydream bluetooth controller.
( I don't know why. People report being affected.)
4) To find the controller location,
turn on location options.
It seems to affect controller drift or screen drift.
I'm not sure.
As for drift issues,
Google has advised to fully charge the controller.
I think there could be some kind of correction.
and someone recommand location - device only option.
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There are no gyrosensor and compass compensation options on Xzp.
Use GPS status app.
This app has correction option.
and There is only compass correction option on the Google Map.
From experience,
it is likely to easily occur if you take off your headset countless times.
There are information about drift issues in the reddit.
Each will already have its own solution.
edit.
The 2018 April update for Pixel 2 just fixed the magnometer (drift).
It is said that someone installed it even though it is not Pixel 2.
I don't know that way.
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7.
Jiggy screen issue
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Quoting..
Shelly tom' post in
https://www.reddit.com/r/daydream/comments/7asyyt/daydream_s8_jiggy_screen/
TL;DR - thick phone case or dirty center "nubs" in daydream view may cause that issue.
When it starts shaking and while still wearing it, try pushing on the daydream view flap and phone as if opening it. If the shaking stops the contacts are dirty.
Also, the little center nubs do three things.
they center your view.
they also resize the height from thick phone cases. This is why there are two of them.
they cause your display to jump around or "vibrate" when dirty.
Take the phone out and wipe down the nubs and the device where they meet. It should allow for a better contact and stop the shaking. If it looks clean there could be oil residue.
With curved glass phones, I've observed that thick phone cases may cause the bottom "nub" to not fully make contact on the lower part. Games with more motion from looking around causes the phone to shift slightly up thus causing poor contact on the lower "nub". The poor contact is the source of the shaking screen in this case.
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Sometimes jiggy screen issue has come up.
so I decide to don't use cases and films on smartphones.
In my experience,
It was convenient not to use cases and films on smart phones. This is a subjective conclusion.
I use smart phone coating liquid instead.
It's a German-made nano tol pro product.
There are a lot of coating products.
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8. about color and screen door effect
Daydream view 2017 is Fresnel lense.
Fresnel lense doesn't express the difference between the brightest and darkest colors very well.
Have two effects.
1. bad image quality.
2. but reduced screen door effects.
sony stock color mode
1. standard mode is suitable nomral lense(ex antvr)
2. vivid mode is suitable fresnel lense(ex daydream)
vivid mode maximizes the contrast between the brightest and darkest colors. complements the fresnel-lense defect.
edit.
https://youtu.be/IrircflFHzw
( Looking for images related to color, I linked this video.
I'm sorry if it doesn't suit your taste.^^; )
You can see it by changing the color mode settings while watching this video.
You will also notice that the screen door effect is strong on the strong primary colors.
because
In strong primary colors, the brightness contrast between brightest and darknest sub-pixel is maximized...
However,
it should be noted that this is not a regular colored video.
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Additional
This is my solution
from daydream view 2017 and vivid mode
If you don't like the color,
increase the color red in white balance setup.
If the screen is yellow, increase the color blue in white balance setup.
edit.
20180425
The higher the resolution, the better it is for the screen door effect. Because at lower resolutions, pixels are clustered together. Screen door effect looks bigger. High resolution is advantageous for the screen door effect.
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9. heat issue
The foil method is neat, simple.
https://www.gamecrate.com/samsung-gear-vr-tips-tricks-fixes-overheating-devices/12916
Daydream view 2017 has 'heat sink'.
edit.
10.
you use 4k adb command/4k qr code..
don't enable Dashboard Option (in daydream develper option.)
It's not working. You don't move library option in Daydream Home.
disable dashboard option. It works.
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D daydream said:
I saw the special place. I love it^^
Anywhere in the world, I don't find detailed comparison between 2k oled and 4k ips smartphone vr experience.
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A real in depth comparison is hard to find. I can just tell from my personal experience with Galaxy S6, Oculus Rift and now XZP.
I'm curious what can be achieved by software / settings with that 4K display the XZP has, but I'm pretty sure that it'll stil be a "high persistance" display overall and is lacking external "correction". If I remember correctly the Daydream headset has no electronics built in, so the phone is completely on it's own and will most likely start to drift away.... thats one big disadvantage to the GearVR for example. Don't know what regular "Daydream Ready" phones do in that case but I think they might have better calibrated sensors, or just have the same drifting problems.
Miustone said:
That's great Man! Thanks for sharing! But the Title... lol
I will share it on My Patch since i just enabled Hard/Software Support for Daydream / VR with the coming Update. Hope it delivers the wished Quality and that the 4K Display switch Option on AOSP soon works again on Oreo...
For now works just the ADB Command.
BR
Edit: Would be interesting how good this works on top of My Patch on AOSP since it has full Support for Daydream and VR (Including Configs, Permissions and Settings + Play Store App Compatibility). Will release it soon and hope somone can test it with a Daydream Headset...
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I'll test it for you. I have a Daydream headset.
<how to activate chrome canary vr web browsing>
It had worked in other daydream ready phone.
But it did not work on xzp
Maybe xzp is not a daydream ready phone.
but
I noticed that it was running recently in miustone' Xperistockrom-V1848.(I do not check Sony Oreo stock rom operation)
Unfortunately, adb 4k mode does not work.
So the screen is blurry. However, video playback on the web is sharpness like YouTube cardboard(4k working).
It is quite useful..
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adb 4k mode works in chrome 66 version.(not canary)
but screen is black... It's unusable
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chrome canary vr web browsing.
('Chrome 66 version' activate method is similar.)
1. Install the app : chrome canary
2. searchbar input : chrome://flags
3. Enable everything with VR, XR, or Daydream in its name.
ex)
-VR browsing native android ui
-WebXR Gamepad Support
-VR browsing web input editing
- WebVR
- WebXR Device API
- WebXR orientation sensor device
- WebVR VSync-aligned timing
- WebXR presentation render path
- VR Browsing
- Chrome VR virtual keyboard
- VR browsing experimental features
- VR browsing experimental rendering features
- VR browsing in Custom Tabs
- VR intents
- WEBVR auto presentation from intents
- Chrome icon in Daydream Home
use web broswing in daydream home .
Related Video: https://youtu.be/Mmr9PJXQHks
Just to keep You informed after this great Gift to Me...
I got Daydream working on Stock with full and native VR Support. What a awesome Expierence!
Check out My Website in ~24 Hours. The next Patch is just for the XZ Premium running Stock (I tested .145).
I gost recently banned for breaking the posting Rules again. So please excuse when i'm not longer active here! Would be great to see You again on My Social Media Page (Coming Soon)!
All the Best
Miustone said:
Just to keep You informed after this great Gift to Me...
I got Daydream working on Stock with full and native VR Support. What a awesome Expierence!
Check out My Website in ~24 Hours. The next Patch is just for the XZ Premium running Stock (I tested .145).
I gost recently banned for breaking the posting Rules again. So please excuse when i'm not longer active here! Would be great to see You again on My Social Media Page (Coming Soon)!
All the Best
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I have listened to the message on your homepage.
I totally agree with your decision on social media homepage.
I think it's a better decision.
Thank you for all your hard work.
I have a close friend who has an iPhone 6s.
He is not usually interested in smartphone and vr.
I gave my friend youtube 4k vr experience with xzp.
He was very interested in flat screen images quality.(especially music video.)
He showed interest in your work I told him.
He said your work would be valuable.
Surface reactions of people in online are unimportant. Everyone who has experienced with xzp, it already knows it.
He who understood, he understands.
He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
All the best
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Screen shift app
I recently noticed this app
screen shift app.
Screen Shift: Customize your display. More details at http://aravindsagar.github.io/ScreenShift/
It was easy to change the resolution without adb command.