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Hi all,
One habit I've developed with the Captivate is using Advanced Task Killer to kill apps that otherwise would just be hanging out in memory. I do this probably because I'm anal retentive like that, but also with the thought that it save me battery life if I do.
This has led to two questions of mine (excuse the noobiness to Android if these have been discussed):
1.) Why do so many applications start automatically when the phone boots up? (browser, gallery, etc etc). Is there a startup ini somewhere I can edit to prevent this or do all the apps just wake up? It's easy enough to kill, but I find some of the apps that start up very odd.
2.) Over the course of the day, even with Autokill on and security set to "Low", eventually my memory is consumed and it only gets back to its full state until the phone is rebooted. After all obvious apps have been killed the memory usage will will go from ~170mb (after a reboot) to as low as ~130mb (at the end of the day). Does anyone know why that happens and if there is a better way to manage memory/apps?
Thanks.
I used to use task killers, but I have uninstalled them and just let android do its thing. The only reason I'll end a program is if the program has an exit function or has froze, which is rare. With this method I don't have any slowdowns and great battery life. On the flipside I don't install poorly developed apps. Thats just me though.
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pls I have purchased Desire S. in fact, i face a problem with battry life
could you advice me for any solution?
Settings>Sound>Pocket mode off (uncheck) that will help a bit.
Oh and don't try task killers they are useless.
And leave only syncing of essential programs on(like mail, weather, facebook/twitter..) and stop the stocks, news... useless stuff.
Thank you for your early reply
Also turn off auto brightness adjustment, set it to 30% (very good when inside) and add brightness widget to your home screen (to adjust when outside, bcs of sun)
are task killers really useless?> but how can I exit all of the apps that are running in the background? I think they drain a lot of battery juice on my desire S.
ghuk said:
are task killers really useless?> but how can I exit all of the apps that are running in the background? I think they drain a lot of battery juice on my desire S.
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Thats what i tought at first...well is not how you think.
1. The memory uses same amount of battery even if used 99% or 5%.
2. When you "exit" one app, even if it doesn't close, it will use 0% cpu, and only stay in memory for quick start the next time you start it.
3. If you run out of memory, android will take care and close background apps to free up memory.
No need for task killers. Anyway, if you use task killers it will only use more battery because, some apps autorestart, using battery.
Background apps (not services, but apps you closed recently) run in background mode and only for some time, Android has it's own memory management.
ghuk said:
are task killers really useless?> but how can I exit all of the apps that are running in the background? I think they drain a lot of battery juice on my desire S.
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It's just how latest Android works thus making task killers useless.
If you're still paranoid, install System Panel app. With it, you can see a crapload of apps running in the background, but none is using the CPU which is what drains the battery. You can still end tasks with it, but you'll notice some of it will be back up instantly.
So if you're constantly auto killing those background apps which then instantly comes back up and then killed again and then up again and on and on, it will end up using more battery than leaving it in the background.
I even see some games in the background apps lol. But does it drain my battery? No.
Don't worry about the memory, it'll never run out.
There is a section regarding extending battery life within this extremely helpful guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097538
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Once I have the syncing under control, and resist the urge to spend hours playing games, I find the biggest drain is the screen.
I'm using Screen Filter to reduce the backlight level in situations where the automatic brightness is just too bright. This is especially useful in the evenings.
Only problem with Screen Filter is it sometimes interferes with the touch-screen in places, like when installing an .apk - the Install button doesn't respond until I switch Screen Filter off. Weird.
Rather than use an application or the Auto setting which I think aims far to high.
I just simply switch screen brightness down to about 25-30% and then turn it up when I'm outdoors in bright sun light if and when needed.
I recommend what friend above said. You can add widget to your desktop and switch brightness by one tap.
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Try activating the OLED mode on this app. Should give you a battery life of over 12 hours after battery low:
The app link on the playstore is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.webzler.soslauncher
Description
This is a homescreen replacement that has an Ultra Power Saving Mode for your phone to help you extend battery life when you are running out of charge. This launcher allows up-to 4 apps on the home-screen.
What this app does:
1. Kills all running apps and services.
2. Disables WiFi, Data.
3. Shows Missed Calls and Missed Messages.
Ultra Power Saving Mode:
4. OLED Mode for AMOLED devices.
5. Changes governor to Powersave mode. (requires ROOT Access)
6. Disables 2 cores of a Quad core phone. (requires ROOT Access)
7. Reboot during exit. (requires ROOT Access)
When your phone goes below 15% battery, the app shows alert to clear the defaults for your current launcher. After clearing, set SOS Launcher as the default homescreen, and the app would take care of the battery. Once you quit the app, it would clear itself as the default launcher and you can start using your favorite launcher back.
Please post in features that you might like to have on the app.
not a bad idea.
can the alert at 15% be turned off?
I'd use tasker / secure settings to make this change on my own at a lower battery percentage
Couldn't this be done with Tasker?
And from the screen shots, it will not save you any power. Amoled only save power when they display BLACK, not greys. I don't want to get into the science, but only complete black saves power, like the status and navigation bar. Don't bother with this app, because it will not save you power, and it kills tasks. Killing tasks is bad in Android. Just avoid this app and similar apps.
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weldawadyathink said:
And from the screen shots, it will not save you any power. Amoled only save power when they display BLACK, not greys. I don't want to get into the science, but only complete black saves power, like the status and navigation bar. Don't bother with this app, because it will not save you power, and it kills tasks. Killing tasks is bad in Android. Just avoid this app and similar apps.
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The app has an OLED mode and it turns the display black. You need to try before commenting. Just let me know if you have any issues.
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amitrathiesh said:
The app has an OLED mode and it turns the display black. You need to try before commenting. Just let me know if you have any issues.
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You are right and I should have tried before commenting. But my second point still stands. Killing services in android does not save battery, processing power, time, space, ram, anything. If anything, it uses more power restarting essential services. Android is based on Linux, and Linux is the best operating system for managing ram. It does not need any third party apps to help it. Killing processes in android is only bad. It was bad in froyo and eclair when we saw the huge influx of "task killers" on the market. If anything, it is worse on JB and KK, because the ram management has only improved. You would get a much more tangible benefit by installing greenify and greenifying your apps. This actually fixes badly coded apps rather than killing them. Killing tasks just aggravates the problem more.
Other than that, it looks like a nice app. It seems to do what it was made to do. I personally will not be using it because I would rather fix the problems with my battery life rather than stretch to the next outlet, but the concept is sound. Please note that the market screenshots are very badly done. In apps that have a setting to change the entire UI of the app should definitely have screenshots of all or most styles. Screenshots are the first impression a user has of your app, and first impressions should always be good. As a very "technological" user, I understand that I am a minority in your userbase, but it is not good or fair to exclude any parts of a group when it would be very simple to include them.
Overview
Battery Saver Ultimate application provides the best power settings to saves the battery time of your device or your tablet. Whenever the battery runs low or goes too much down, just tap the power saver app to turn on the saving mode.
Battery savers help you to switch off all the extra functions like WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, sound and other energy consuming apps on the device. The app will notify when the power gets down in percentage and it even shows the charging stages.
Charging Stages:
Free Battery Saver Ultimate app regulates the manner in which your device is charged with a Unique 3 Stage Charging system to ensure you get the most out of your battery and reminds you not to over charge.
Types of Mode :
1. Saving Mode: (Use in lowest Battery Status)
Device Brightness set to 10%
In Activate WiFi of the Device
Stand By time to 15 seconds
2. Sleep Mode: (Use when you sleep)
Turn Off Call & SMS and turn ON the Flight Mode
Set Vibrations Off.
Airplane Mode.
Sound Off and mute media sound too.
Brightness set to 10% or minimum level.
3. Customized Mode
You can Customize app usages as your need to save Battery Power.
Can adjust the battery saving setting freely depend on your need and usage.
Can adjust WiFi, Bluetooth, vibration, sound, device brightness, synchronization and stand by time.
Features and Requirements
Accurate battery remaining time
Shows Standby Time.
Accurate charging remaining time
Schedule power saving modes for work/class/sleep and more!
3 Stage Charging system 1. Fast charge 2. Continuous Charging 3. Tickle Charging.
Wifi/Data/Bluetooth/GPS/Flight Mode toggle!
Brightness control!
Shows Battery Health, Current Battery Power in mAH, Temperature, Voltage and Battery life status.
Interesting app. I installed it on my tablet. Look up how it will work. Pity that application is not in material design...
Can I say dodgy app here full of ads and nothing as you say it is. Gives me to play games and full of ads. Avoid
Looks very Good though
Full of ads, nothing like advertised. Avoid.
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Looks very Good though
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i want to prevent apps to auto start to save battery and ram, which app should i use, grrenify or autorun manager or any other?
First, you need not concern yourself with free ram on an Android device. Android manages resources better by itself. As for the apps that launch on startup, you can got to menu>settings>apps and select the "running" tab to show you exactly what is really running. Then, the easiest way is to uninstall the app in question.
Automated task killers do nothing but cause more problems than they can potentially solve.
You might find this thread enlightening.
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i want to prevent apps to auto start to save battery and ram, which app should i use, grrenify or autorun manager or any other?
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The task killer discussion gets old. I think there is risk of oversimplifying both sides. ie on one side people want to treat it like pc...not correct. On the other side people seem to imply any discussion of memory management considerations is irrelevant/rejected because "android will handle it all"....which is not always entirely correct either. The latter may be closer to the truth especially for new devices, but there is still room for middle ground. Not all programs are equal, some launch "services" which takes priority over other app processes. Too many of those services can eventually crowd out cache and slow your phone down. Maybe most people with newer phones will never get there, but there are still people with older phones (including the op for all we know) and also some folks with new phones who (if they listen to the oversimplifications) may get carried away on the number and type of apps they install over the life of their phone
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Even so, killing off those services is not the answer. If an older phone has too many running services so it taxes it's resources then it's either time to uninstall some or get a device that can handle it. If it's a problem with the app itself hogging resources, then let the developer know and find an alternative.
If you try to tow a boat with a bicycle, the answer isn't to throw away the boat's engine to make it lighter. Similarly, a task killer may make the phone's performance improve briefly, but over time it will make things worse. And it fixes nothing.
An app preventing another app from "auto-starting" is a task killer. Look at it this way: The phone boots up and runs it's processes. The auto-start blocker detects an app it doesn't want to run, so it kills it. Now, depending on what app it is, the phone may call for it again and thus running it later, which defeats the purpose of an auto-start killer, unless that app is a task killer which again kills said flagged app to keep it killed.
The way to properly manage an app you don't want to have enabled on the phone at bootup is to disable the app on the system manager (newer phones have it AFAIK), freeze the app via Titanium or similar apps, get into the app settings and disable certain features like auto-sync and set everything to manual.
However, the OP did not specify what phone and which apps. It may be apps which the phone requires to run at some level, like Maps (which several apps call for), or maybe the apps he is seeing are just RAM cached, which really don't matter at all.
Adjusting with app settings is preferred if you can, but does not always solve the problem (I referred to wakelock/battery drain problem with a certain version of Maps on my previous phone ... many people we having the same problem at the time and the only way to stop it was to block the app from starting as indicated in link below, or else to freeze it). Freezing has the disadvantage that you cannot run the program easily (requires you to launch TiBu to thaw the program). If you have blocked the program from autostarting, then it does not start at boot or other automatic time, but it remains available to manually launch the normal way (clicking the program icon). At that point (if it's a program like Maps), it will probably stay running until next reboot. It was my preferred solution when maps was giving me wakelocks and battery drain on my phone. Maps didn't run automatically on boot and never started until I manually started it. After that point I could live with the battery drain or reboot
Rom Toolbox Pro is a great app with many features and of course, there's an auto start manager that allows you to disable various receivers off the apps that start on boot. There's also a freeze/deep freeze feature as well. Great app
New material design support added for pre lollipop users ( kitkat and lower)
The most powerful battery saver for 2016, it has no popup ads! 4meg service after reboot, it's the most efficient battery saver on the playstore!
*Control via SMS commands simply sending text on/off via sms (Precise Lost/Stolen position (in conjunction with apps like Where's My droid)) so even if you lose or have your ohone stolen, sending on will enable 3g/wifi/bt/gps etc for apps like WMD to get your precise location..
*Double even triple your Battery Life!
*Autostarts manager (simply click on the clean button/clean) to give a like new device!
*Freemem option - simply tick and it will release memory when you turn the screen off
*Faster battery charging!
*Phone runs cooler when not in use!
*Full hardware support 4.4/5/6 Fully supports kitkat/lollipop+ for advanced power management
*Only 4 meg of used memory after reboot
*Uses less resources than DU/Greenify but is more powerful and more energy efficient!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=saver.battery.craigs.craigsbatterysaver
(The old thread was locked because at the time i made the thread, it was in heavy development and now it does things the original could not and no longer is relevant, thanks mod! )
sorry but, ugly UI
Sorry you're too vain to try it....
It's simple and efficient ! One question, Wich one it's better ? Extreme saver or way more battery ?
Extreme simply means the phone never wakes up from sleep mode, the other 2 options will switch wifi/4g/bt/gps (whatever was on before the screen goes off, it will then wait 15 seconds (enough time for email/facebook/etc notification) then power down...
Inbetween wakes every 30 minutes or so, the other is more like every hour.
So if you enjoy silence (except for sms/calls) extreme will give that
One thing this app has over the majority of them is that this was written ground up, you'll find with the popular battery apps it all comes from the same source code and they all end up with shared underlying bugs...
Probando Craig!
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Probando Craig!
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Gracias!
OK - sorted out the task manager, the last build was shutting down the home screen build 83 (causing a 4 second delay from the top most app back to the home screen)
It now keeps it alive and the lag has gone, it was in the name of power saving but i think it was a little over kill, sorry about that, build 84 has it sorted back to full speed even after being put into deep sleep (FreeMem can be used again)
Thanks!
Jellybean fix - clean prevented youtube from running!
Anyone had any problems with this? (I'll be working on the ui soon)
Jelly bean bug sorted, clean was disabling youtube!
Alrighty then, as part of the clean up options (clean! It clears up cache files and an option to restore autostarts)
Next release will be to improve the gui! Material world design!
Material Design Update!
Any problems email me ASAP and i'll sort it out, please remember this saves your battery when screen is off! Eg go bed with 98% wake up with 97%
Any suggestions for what to add next?
How to turn off the sound when locking pphone and locking it. I already unchecked the box yet it still happenes
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Untick "turn sounds on"
If you did then you never pressed the back key/exited the app/pressed start service... before the screen switches on/off (only when it exits does the settings save/update)
Its working...
I'll have it automatically save the settings with each tick you make next release
After thinking about it, with each settings change it would have to re-launch the main service via an intent, seems wasteful over simply exiting and passing all the saved changes
Which is better? Schedule (eg between 9-10am don't disable anything) or a timer (eg don't disable anything for 60 minutes)
Which is better?
Fixed a bug with keep wifi on when connected option!
New update, it handles a process kill and can distinguish between a kill and stop service command, onDestroy is fired when correctly shutdown, kill however does not do that, to my amazement when an android is shut down, every process is killed! So i had to hook a shutdown intent!
New build - crash/killed detection no more having to re run the app!