HTC WM6.x phones and USB 3G routers - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys,
i'm wondering if could exist any chance to connect via USB port a Windows Mobile phone (in my case HTC touch pro - wm6.1) and a USB 3G Router (Sitecom WL-357) which normally works with USB 3G Keys.
Activating the "Internet Sharing" via USB doesn't help at all and for what i currently know, the Sitecom WL-357 is based on a Linux Distro and all the source code is available from the manufacturer site since it's under GPL.
Any hints? Would be easier to develop an application on the mobile phone side or to hack the firmware from the router side?
Any feedback or experiences really appreciated!!!
Take care, R.

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AWESOME: HD2 connected to internet via USB Dongle

Indeed a dream until someone special converts it into a reality.
Can HD2 connect to a USB Internet dongle (the ones that connect to notebooks via USB for accessing internet) and go online? If that can be made possible, HD2 will be able to connect on the go without using WIFI.
that would be AWESOME
yahya.hamid said:
Indeed a dream until someone special converts it into a reality.
Can HD2 connect to a USB Internet dongle (the ones that connect to notebooks via USB for accessing internet) and go online? If that can be made possible, HD2 will be able to connect on the go without using WIFI.
that would be AWESOME
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NOPE .. can't do it ..
if you are talking about wired usb dongle no ... HD2 does not support USB Host mode, so you cannot plug devices into the HD2, the HD2 is the device ...
Hmm..
It is possible to connect HTC to other devices via bluetooth. I am sure the host capabilities are there. The only thing is to instal the software and the right driver and it wud connect. I have an Internet USB dongle that connects to my service provider. It automatically instals software when it is plugged into a windows notebook.
Been wondering if that software can be modified to instal on Wm 6.5 and then with the right chip drivers access internet.
yahya.hamid said:
Hmm..
It is possible to connect HTC to other devices via bluetooth. I am sure the host capabilities are there. The only thing is to instal the software and the right driver and it wud connect. I have an Internet USB dongle that connects to my service provider. It automatically instals software when it is plugged into a windows notebook.
Been wondering if that software can be modified to instal on Wm 6.5 and then with the right chip drivers access internet.
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That is bluetooth host, not usb host, to entirely different communication stacks .....
Besides, why run your battery down that much, to power a usb dongle, buy a wifi access point, usually cheaper than the usb dongle , connect via wifi ...
Why would you want to WIRE your wireless phone??
I would doubt a USB dongle is the only way to connect to your ISP , get a router with an access point ... easier on you easier on your phone ...
yahya.hamid said:
If that can be made possible, HD2 will be able to connect on the go without using WIFI.
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I'm a bit puzzled as to what you would actually be gaining, if this were possible.
The HD2 is a phone, it contains a SIM, and if you have data service enabled, it can already connect on the go, without using WIFI.
I was just thinking the same thing?! lol
Check out this software, WM WIFI ROUTER 2.00 (build 1502) there is a trial for the software, and for complete use, buy license. should be cheap
options are 3G wireless, 3G usb dongle, 3G Bluetooth, outcoming & incoming wireless from laptop using usb to device vice-verser.
aoakes said:
Check out this software, WM WIFI ROUTER 2.00 (build 1502) there is a trial for the software, and for complete use, buy license. should be cheap
options are 3G wireless, 3G usb dongle, 3G Bluetooth, outcoming & incoming wireless from laptop using usb to device vice-verser.
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cqan u post the link please?
aoakes said:
Check out this software, WM WIFI ROUTER 2.00 (build 1502) there is a trial for the software, and for complete use, buy license. should be cheap
options are 3G wireless, 3G usb dongle, 3G Bluetooth, outcoming & incoming wireless from laptop using usb to device vice-verser.
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I think you missed his point, he wants to plug his ISP's usb dongle into his HD2 and then use his ISP's connection on the HD2 ...
The Wifi router app does not do that, it allows you to surf the web on your PC via the HD2 ...

wi-fi router

hi guys i recently purchased a wi-fi bridge for my dm800 it works perfect on the reciever i can also use my laptop through my hd2 via the wi-fi router app but i would like to connect the wi-fi bridge to the phone if it can be done the model of the wi-fi bridge is vonets vap11g any help please the bridge does not even pick the phone up in the search but as i said my laptop finds it straight away
Methinks it depends on router-type and/or open ports and/or protocols since I messed around with the same problem a lot.
On my VAIO TT it worked nicely until I updated the WIFI-drivers, then it didi not work any more. So I had to go back to the old drivers.
The same with the Alcatel and Thompson-Router/Hubs installed by Austrian Telecom. They had to open some ports and then it worked.
With a Netgear-Router I did not succed at all, although I tried all possible settings. Was very frustrating..............

[Q] Possibility of a WiFi Tethering App with Mango

The title is self-explanatory, will it be possible to create a homebrew WiFi tethering app with the new API's of the upcoming Mango update?
Thanks everyone
I'm very interested in an answer to that question myself.
If I'm not mistaken than these things won't just be up to the API's/Apps but also to your operator.
It just happened somewhen during the last year that i.e. O2 Germany opened this feature for iPhone users. I think to remember that I read somewhere that it's blocked for most of the O2 contracts nowadays (especially those with mobile internet including a "flatrate").
I am interested if it could be achieved with the new API's. Neither BASE nor O2 block tethering in the network, O2 only blocked it on the iPhone by not allowing the setting on the device. I could tether with my Palm Pre and N95 8GB since ever with both carriers.
And I don't' think a carrier can stop you from installing a Homebrew tethering solution
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Alright, I didn't know that. Somehow the crying of all the Apple users made it sound a little worse to me
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Cyruss89 said:
The title is self-explanatory, will it be possible to create a homebrew WiFi tethering app with the new API's of the upcoming Mango update?
Thanks everyone
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It's possible to do this today, nobody has yet. I was trying to find something open source in either C# or for WinCE/WM that I could port, but never came up with something meaningful.
I'm not entirely sure whether we can connect to ad-hoc wireless networks though. I suspect it could be done over USB either way.
What do you mean with "I'm not entirely sure whether we can connect to ad-hoc wireless networks though"? I want my PC to connect to a WiFi network, not my phone.
I can already tether via USB, because I have a LG Optimus 7, thx MFG Menu ;-). Coming from a Palm Pre that's not what I want.
I'd love to help, but unfortunaly I can't code at all :-(
@Cyruss89:
What davux meant was that you have to get your phone and your laptop on the same WiFi network, and generally that means using an Ad-Hoc network. Since the phone currently can't do Ad-Hoc (so far as we know), that's one problem in the way.
An alternative approach would be to have the phone act as a WiFi Access Point (broadcast an Infrastructure network). This is possible on the PC with some tweaking, but requires OS support, unless the OS exposes the capability directly to the user. An intermediate option might be to write a native app that can tell the driver to enter this state, if it even knows how (and if there is a usable API for doing so).
Anyhow, once you've got some way for the phone and PC to talk over WiFi, there's a few more things that are needed. An app like this isn't going to work with simply turnign the phone into a USB modem (which is what the current tethering apps do). The phone will stay connected to the network itself, but it'll need to basically re-implement something like Internet Connection Sharing in Windows. This means:
* DHCP server, so the PC can get an IP address.
* DNS forwarding, so the PC can resolve domain names to IP addresses.
* Network Address Translation, so that the phone knows what packets it needs to send to the PC(s) and on what ports.
Now, the code for all of this exists, and is even available in reasonably portable open-source C (BSD can do everything we need). Getting it to work on the phone isn't going to be trivial, though. For example, it requires the ability to open a low-level type of network socket that isn't going to be available in Mango. It also will require some work to port to WinCE, unless somebody has CE code for this already.
For now, I'll keep doing what I've been doing: tether my phone to my laptop, and use the laptop's Internet Connection Sharing and WiFi to share with other machines, if necessary.
don't know if you know this but i'll post it anyway
on samsung omnia 7 is already possible even without nodo update, here is the link
@keanu20:
USB tethering is already possible on *all* WP7 phones. It also has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, which is about WiFi hotspot capability (similar in purpose but more useful and completely different in implementation).
Thanks a lot for this post GoodDayToDie! Basically this means I have to hope that MS or Nokia implement the functionality by themselves.
Hope dies last.
So this won't be in Mango.
The reason HTC were able to do it was that they included a new WiFi driver in their HTC 1.29 Firmware update for their devices. Which is being pushed out by MSFT now.

[Q] Bluetooth Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)

Hi everyone,
Is it possible to enable Bluetooth DUN Profile support in the Transformer so that I can use my 3G cellphone (Symbian S60v3) as a Bluetooth dial-up modem?
Thanks!
No, it is not possible and will likely never be possible unless someone modifies the android code. I've been studying the problem for a while but can't seem to make any headway.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...un&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
This stuff i now working perfecly in any linux system!
What would they need? Port ppp and some code from network-manager? Probably the mobile phone providers database also.
Does anyone know what is the reason why this is not implemented?
I have an HTC Desire HD (DHD), I was hoping to use the BT DUN or PAN from the TF to the DHD when I was out an about, seems this wont work.
Then I thought, OK, if I connect the TF to the DHD with USB, I can use tethering, that does not seem to work either.
Any thoughts?
You MAY be able to get BT-tether to work between your tablet and your cellphone if you install pdaNET on both, and your cellphone supports BT-DUN. I believe stock Android kernel doesn't support BT-DUN, but if it's rooted and the custom ROM supports it you're in business.
For me I go with wifi-tether ... it's much faster.
USB-tether would make sense, cos you can charge your phone at the same time (with your dock, I suppose). Problem is there's no phone driver for the Android tablet and I don't think there will ever be.
So, in short, if you have a Symbian phone there's no way to have Internet access in the TF101 through the phone.
This is not good news...
[Q] Bluetooth Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) in 3G firmware?
Does anyone know if the 3G firmware version supports Dialup Networking through Bluetooth?
The complexity of supporting DUN should not be much bigger than supporting GSM SIM cards, right?
There is no joy for us blackberry users either.
I think that dual-booting a standard Linux distribution is probably the way to go...
According to lilstevie Network Manager is starting to work.
Then it's just plug and play, hopefully
Hi I am not expert so please forgive me if i am answer wrongly .
I manage to use bluetooth internet sharing to my TF but I am using Iphone 3gs and use Internet Tethering option.
Is that what you want ? I never tested using nokia phone.
As far as I know, tethering requires the mobile phone to act as a wireless access point.
Symbian does not support this natively.
I did find an application that would implement it, but it was purchasable only.
And I'm trying to find a free solution.
I managed to get this working in CyanogenMod 7.1... in theory it should work on any Android 2.3.7 based OS.
I'm going to write a howto geared for the end-user later tonight, but for now my notes are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352936

[Q] Can WM6.5 share modem with a Ginger tablet ?

Here's the problem of a newb user of an Android tablet.
I favent' found any similar thread here @ the Forum.
I've just bought a chinese tablet (EM73...maybe Haipad or Irobot) with Ginger 2.3.3 installed by the vendor.
Everything goes right but not the sharing connection with the modem of my HTC TP2 (WM 6.5).
I can do it (through BT or WIFI connection) just if I use my netbook (Win XP home) running WMWifiRouter or CM Internet sharing. The router is immediatly recognized by the pc and I can use internet or SN (like FB) or Skype....and so on with an EDGE connection.
I've tried to do the same by connecting the modem-router to my new tablet, running WMWIFIRouter on TP2 but without seeing the net in the list of wifi connections.
No problem with the router and the ADSL connection that I use at home but no connections appears in the list of the tablet if I try to share the EDGE connection of my smartphone.
I've tried to connect by using an USB cable (using some apps found on the market) but nothing happens.
Someone says it depends of the type of connection (ad hoc = WM; infrastructure = Android)... but I can't find any solution to create that type of connection (is it possible ???=).
Can someone help me please ?
Though I don't have a solution, to help I can promise you it has to do with using ad-hoc. My Sirius and DSLite would not hook up to my WinMo phone because of it being Ad-hoc.

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