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Getting new phone. Need help choosing.

So I've been a smartphone person for a while and the last good phone I had was the Nokia N91 which broke. I've been using a crappy Samsung slider to make/take calls and send/receive messages.
I'm getting a new phone and have narrowed down my choices to 2.
HTC HD2 (Leo) or the HTC Hero.
Now, I love the HTC Hero but the only thing keeping me is what I've heard about it being very laggy (and ive seen some videos, opening the mail takes at least 5-10 seconds). I have used the Android OS several times at the store and really love it (recently tried the HTC Droid Eric by Verizon).
I have also used Windows Mobile and find it okay, but seem to like Android better. Also, HTC Hero will NOT get 3G in the US...
I'm looking at the HD2 because it packs a lot of horsepower... 1Ghz is pretty dang nice, and from the videos I've seen lag does not exist AT ALL.
So now I have this dilemma... should I buy the HD2 or Hero. I guess it comes down to whether or not WinMo is better than Android (FOR ME. Please don't start a android vs winmo flame war).
What do you guys think?
P.S. I need to buy an unlocked GSM. No other options. Will probably get it from Middle East/Europe. Availability in a certain region is not an issue for me.

Welcome to HTC XDA! We highly recommend HTC HD2 top of the line PPC!! See the LEO section for the specs, answers & info...

I am personally waiting for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 which runs android, a very high resolution, and the snapdragon processor, in my opinion it is superior to the hd2 and the hero

Thanks galaxys for the warm welcome.
I'm not sure what you mean by PPC, but why exactly is it that you recommend it? The superior hardware?
and thanks jad for the response... I have considered the X10 and think its pretty cool but I'm not willing to wait and need a new phone NOW

PPC means Pocket PC. Anything that runs Windows Mobile is a pocket PC. It's not a term you see much nowadays.
The HD2 is probably the best PPC/WM device out there at the moment. As far as I'm aware (others please correct me if I'm wrong) the Eris is the Hero in another casing spcifically for Verizon. If only the Leo ran Android....

Ah okay thanks TheBrit
Yes you are correct about the Eris. Just different case.
Also, I've really fallen in love with android... so I guess I'll go for the Hero.

There's also the Samsung Moment that runs Android and has a physical keyboard.

TheBrit said:
... If only the Leo ran Android....
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Thanks guys, I decided to buy the Hero. It will be shipping soon

Good decision!!
Go to Leo section to start learning

orb3000 said:
Good decision!!
Go to Leo section to start learning
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He said Hero not Leo

[Q] HTC Desire or HD2 -- Urgent :((

Hi guys,
I need to buy a PDA. I have 3 devices in my budget:
X10
HD2
Desire
Which one to go for? I am more leaned towards HD2 with a hope that it runs Android with all functions (including Camera / Good battery life + no issues with Mic for Incoming / Outgoing Calls) & it will also support WinMo7.
Please share your opinions esp. for HD2 vs Desire

sounds to me like you have already made up your mind

hTC Leo: You can have both Android and WM, and perhaps WP7

hm..
But how is your experience with LEO running Android? battery will survive for one day? or less?
Any problems with Calls?

My experience is great
all works almost same as in Android native devices , battery lasts less than in WM but can make it a day.
Not any prob with calls really.

@orb:
Are you using any WinMo ROM on your HD2 or is the default one?
i was going through a Thread where almost majority of the people were not happy with HD2.. may be because of the Stock ROM?

Of course I´m not using stock!
I flashed to a cooked ROM since day 1, have a read on Leo section so you´ll find out what members think of this super device!

Desire, i think thats why better than HD-2, unless your the guy who wants to switch to OS's everyday

fshami said:
@orb:
Are you using any WinMo ROM on your HD2 or is the default one?
i was going through a Thread where almost majority of the people were not happy with HD2.. may be because of the Stock ROM?
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I use the latest stock ROM for my HD2 on O2, never had a problem with it.
Also install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 as I find it a better interface.
What do you actually want to use your phone to do though?
Most people from what I've read run android on their HD2 because it's cheaper than getting a desire HD, they don't really flip between the two.
What sort of user will you be?

Yup want to use it for Android with a hope that WinMo7 will run on it one day

fshami said:
Yup want to use it for Android with a hope that WinMo7 will run on it one day
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Ok in that case there's no hope for you
Your option is the HD2 as I doubt WP7 will be ported to an android phone.
Have you played with WP7 yet?
I seriously recommend trying it out in a shop if your choice is android and WP7, because if you discover WP7 is not for you, it's better to find out sooner and then just buy an android phone.

[Resolved] [Q] Q: what should i buy Hd7 or HD2 or?

Hello everyone;
hope you keeping well, I have HTC Touch Pro in mean time and I wanna replace it, so with what I should replace it, HD7 or Hd2 or HTC Touch Pro2 ? Please help me decide one and why?
Thanks in advanced

You really want WP7 without basic features? For example: No SD Card support, no copy and paste, no default browser selection, no multitasking.
WM6.5 is not supported by Microsoft, so there willn't be any new updates.
Think about alternative platforms Android, Bada OS.
But if you really want Windows, I'd choose HD2.

First of all are you a tmobile customer? Most likely I'd say. But give some more options to choose from. Hd2 and touch pro 2 are both outdated already. Even though hd 7 looks pretty tempting but nah windows phone 7 is still a pretty weak platform. Consider buy a g2 or my touch 4g or vibrant 4g instead. But here of you decide the vibrant make sure it's vibrant 4g not the original one ok?
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out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year

Why not go with the HTC Desire HD?
It's basically the same phone as the HD2, but comes with FroYo

I'd say HD7 is good , but not good enough .. wait and get something like dual core with better screen .. because soon HD2 & HD7 will be last gen. smartphones.
good luck anyway

If you have only these 3 options I'd go for the HD2 without any hesitation (I had one before my Z and had a Touch Pro before that one). You'll be able to flash all kinds of ROMS and install almost every OS on it (Android, WP7 etc.). There's a lot of support for this device.
Touch Pro2: only if you want to keep both a hard keyboard and WM. Otherwise forget it. Too old as already said by a previous poster.
HD7: I really don't like WP7. It looks so boring and ugly. Will there be as much applications and development as for Android or WM? I don't think so but that's just my opinion.
On the other way if you are not against other options I'd suggest you to buy an Android device like the Desire Z or HD as Android is really the best OS. You could install it on the HD2 but IMO the physical buttons are not appropriate and make the user experience less pleasant than with the soft keys on Android devices. I noticed immediately the difference when I switched from my HD2/Android to my Desire Z.
Hope it'll be helpful

GYIVIjuNkY said:
out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year
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I doubt that there is any difference in hardware between HD7 and HD2 except for the kickstand in HD7.
But if anybody would ask me I will tell then to get HD2.
It can run WM6.5, Android and WP7 as good as any other phone.

@all thank u so much guys seriously I'm so greatful , and yes I will go and buy the HD2 today. I'll give my touch pro away I really liked the keyboard on it, guess ill buy external keyboard for the HD2 and for andorid I don't know didn't really use it that much but ill give it a shoot on my next HD2 hehe ... Thank you so so much

[Q] I'm a Microsoft fan boy and I'm scared of Android!

I'm scared of Android... I know what it can do and I love it but I've got WP7 on my HD2 and im having nightmares about the switch over. I've pre-ordered the sensation through Vodafone and deep down can't wait for it to arive but......... I just can't get my head around Android!
What to do?????? I'm scared!!!!!!! Should I have ordered a windows phone?

MadMartyn said:
I'm scared of Android... I know what it can do and I love it but I've got WP7 on my HD2 and im having nightmares about the switch over. I've pre-ordered the sensation through Vodafone and deep down can't wait for it to arive but......... I just can't get my head around Android!
What to do?????? I'm scared!!!!!!! Should I have ordered a windows phone?
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Not sure if serious

You'll love android. Everyone loves android

MadMartyn said:
I've got WP7 on my HD2
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I love my HD2 with WM6.5. Of all the ways you could've modded the HD2 you chose WP7? That's like 10 steps back from even WM6.5. That's iPhone version 1 stuff right there.

Just (Like today) put Android 2.3.3 on the hd2 and I'm loving it..... HyperDroid-GBX-v12..... now I really can't wait for the sensation.
I've gotta say WP7 is just so easy to use but I have to agree Android is the way forward.
I want my Sensation NOW!!!!!

MadMartyn said:
Just (Like today) put Android 2.3.3 on the hd2 and I'm loving it..... HyperDroid-GBX-v12..... now I really can't wait for the sensation.
I've gotta say WP7 is just so easy to use but I have to agree Android is the way forward.
I want my Sensation NOW!!!!!
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You will not regret it!, I have a HD2 as well, I have run Everything on it, ALWAYS go back to Android!

MadMartyn said:
What to do?????? I'm scared!!!!!!! Should I have ordered a windows phone?
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don't forget that places like xda are for those who want to take advantage of the open source code...most people with Android phones just turn them on, use them, and love them, without knowing that there can be hundreds and hundreds of questions on how-to's
a computard friend recently went form blackberry to android and learnt to use it within a couple of days
just remember to use the phone how it wants to be used, not to try to make it do things like you would in WP7

i have the hd7 and i can say wp7 is getting to feel like a routine life. its only so much you can do.i miss andriod mainly because of htc sense. i been having my eyes on the sensation it looks amazing. im not sure weather to get the sensation or the flyer i been dying for a tablet. can anyone make a suggestion wich one would be a better choice? and also will the sensation come with htc locations?

it would great to see htc locations on the flyer that would be epic gps on that big screen

MadMartyn said:
I'm scared of Android... I know what it can do and I love it but I've got WP7 on my HD2 and im having nightmares about the switch over. I've pre-ordered the sensation through Vodafone and deep down can't wait for it to arive but......... I just can't get my head around Android!
What to do?????? I'm scared!!!!!!! Should I have ordered a windows phone?
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So you have an HD2 with Sense (and previously WM6.5). With the Sensation you'll have Sense on Android. Trust me when I say you'll love it. Android is fantastic and with Sense on top it'll make your transition easy.

[Q] HD2 Replacement....which phone to pick?

Hey everyone, I had an HD2, loved that it was hacked to the max with a million roms available, and that it was always updated to the newest android almost immedietly, unfortunately the wifi chip died 2 months later and i had to sell it.
Now im looking for a used phone on ebay basically, budget is max 250-300, the samsung vibrant looked good, but im affraid if i buy it ill be stuck on froyo or gingerbread, and not be able to update to android ice cream end of the year (while im sure the HD2 would be hacked to ice cream immedietly lol)
Seeing as the HD2 left a bad taste in my mouth so to speak, which phone would you recomend that has good dev support and most likely to be able to upgrade down the line? thanks

I have the HTC HD7 and I think you'll like it, the OS is AMAZING!!! And I saw it for 280* around Amazon.com
If you want android, but stick to the hTC family, they you should think about the hTC Desire HD. But if it's too expensive, the X10 from Sony will be also a good choice, and I saw it around 270* on Amazon. But the downside of Android is, that it is not sure when you get updates while WP7 (HTC HD7...) is.
Maybe, you should think about the iPhone, that thing has updates. And WP7 is also easy to update.
Since I don't know where you live and if you are a professional hacker or a noob, I just gave you recommendations that should fir almost anybody.
* New, unused price in EUR. Price may change depending on when you buy.
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Of course,
EDIT As the guy abov333 said, The x10 is great too! But its best if you flash the miui rom that just came out for it
it adds multitouch and such stuff.
AND Miui On the desire has OTA updates!! :3
The HD2 is an amazing device,
so many hacks available for it c:
i had one But traded it since the size was a little to big for what i like,
I would for sure check if you can get an new HD2 (i mean used x3)
Or maybe the desire HD
Just as the Desire! I have one its an good size and there are tons of roms
just as CM7 and miui
even a sense 3.0 rom is out!
I would look for those since they will help you to continue with hacking in the future
Moon c:

THanks
thanks guys will check them out

I've had a HD2 for over a year and a half now, and have been using Android on it for nearly half that time. I've also played with WP7 on it, and was utterly disappointed. I loved WM6.5 so I expected a LOT from WP7, but it simply didn't deliver.
The Desire HD is the closest thing to a HD2 out there, but is obviously a native Android device. Android does get updated regularly (especially if you're a regular on this site), as I'm sure you know. Seriously, no disrespect to Tuskuno's opinion - I just disagree with it.
I'm just about to get a Samsung Galaxy S II on contract, but if I were going for an off-the-shelf stock phone, it would probably be the Desire HD.

You can't go wrong with getting a Nexus. A Nexus One is like $260 on ebay and has a great development community along with frequent updates because it's a google experience.

Nexus
That was my first choice, then I read about how its not truely multitouch and is problamatic in multitouch games, so i decided against it.
the desire Z (tmobile g2) looks like a viable option, priced around 200 on ebay

If you want to have the latest version of android in your phone, i suggest you pick one supported by Cyanogen. I dont have enought posts yet to include links, but there's a relevant list over at "cyanogenmod dot com slash devices".

its simple just go for the EU version of the Samsung Galaxy S.

sounds good
would love to but its too out of my budget, cant spend a dime over 300

Dude believe me and just stick with the hd2 a lot of development space towork with plus u get the best of three words wp7, wm, Android. The hd7 is virtually the same thing as the hd2 with there old school screens but the hd7 lacks development at the moment.
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DroidFreek said:
Dude believe me and just stick with the hd2 a lot of development space towork with plus u get the best of three words wp7, wm, Android. The hd7 is virtually the same thing as the hd2 with there old school screens but the hd7 lacks development at the moment.
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Have to second that.
Until something as good as the HD2 comes along, I can't think what I'll go for next.