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I swear I have used the Search tool, but lots of topics have HSPL in their title, and I weren't able to find any FAQ topic talking about that.
Everybody here talks about SSPL, HSPL, how to use them and so on. The only think I understood is that to flash custom roms you need HSPL, and for official roms SSPL is "enough". Could anybody tell me something more and explain me why do we need this stuff to flash a rom and not just run a .exe on the device which could do everything automatically?
I also didn't understand what the Radio is. I thought a part of the rom which manages the GSM/3G antenna, but I think I am wrong.
Thank you in advance
Black Antitoon said:
I swear I have used the Search tool, but lots of topics have HSPL in their title, and I weren't able to find any FAQ topic talking about that.
Everybody here talks about SSPL, HSPL, how to use them and so on. The only think I understood is that to flash custom roms you need HSPL, and for official roms SSPL is "enough". Could anybody tell me something more and explain me why do we need this stuff to flash a rom and not just run a .exe on the device which could do everything automatically?
I also didn't understand what the Radio is. I thought a part of the rom which manages the GSM/3G antenna, but I think I am wrong.
Thank you in advance
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okay
spl = Secondary Program Loader. Think of this in the same sense as bios on a pc. (it sets where your system boots from, intialises sub system process etc)
sspl = soft spl (this allows you to flash another spl or hardspl).
hardspl = hard spl .. basically it allows flashing of any rom. It protects you from bricking your device. If you have a bad flash it just forces the phone to load into bootloader, from where you can flash another rom using pc or storage card to get your phone working again. Using a hardspl you can flash any carrier rom without cid unlocking your device first.
Radio = you are correct about your assumption as to what a radio does .
Now if you are flashing your carriers official rom than you don't need any of this stuff but different carriers set their cid in their roms so only phones that have their cid can flash those roms ... now if you like the wwe htc rom and want to flash it onto the tilt you will first need to hardspl your device or otherwise you won't be able to flash the rom ... it will time out with an error telling you invalid vendor id.
Many thanks! Now it is much clearer! Just one more question: why do people care so much for the radio and post their radio version to their signature? Is the radio revision so important? Why is it not just part of the rom?
Thanks again!
Black Antitoon said:
Many thanks! Now it is much clearer! Just one more question: why do people care so much for the radio and post their radio version to their signature? Is the radio revision so important? Why is it not just part of the rom?
Thanks again!
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well radio is definitely important ... i mean if you have a uncompatible radio you will loose sound, camera, connection etc on your phone. Reason people list the radio they are using is basically to let others know what radio is working for them on the rom they have. This way if someone else doesn't know which radio to use with the rom than can use the radio they have listed. Radios are location dependant. Some radios give better reception here in states while others give better reception somewhere else in the world.
Most of the time chefs will include a radio with their rom, but some leave it out so you can choose the one that works best for you. Just a keynote to keep in mind when selecting radios is that wm6.1 roms need wm6.1 radios and wm6 roms need wm6 radios. Also DO NOT flash a radio that is intended for another device i.e a rapheal radio onto a kaiser (this will brick your device). There are exceptions to this rule. Also you should get your phone security unlocked before proceeding with flashing various kinds of radios. This will save you from getting stuck with a radio that locks itself to the device (thus rendering itself unchangeable; no matter how many times you flash another radio you will be stuck with that radio) an example of this is "the radio from hell" which alot of people in the kaiser forum got stuck with and weren't able to get rid of it until "FrankenKaiser" came along.
Hope this helps.
Thank you, it does.
Another term I read is Jump SPL. What's that?
Some poeple encounter problems trying to flash hardspl, Jump spl "jump starts" the process.
(problems like the kaiser white screen issue here)
Ok, thank you all.
Now I only have to wait for the Blackstone Hard SPL.
Black Antitoon said:
Ok, thank you all.
Now I only have to wait for the Blackstone Hard SPL.
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aren't we all ... hold tight though they are close to getting it done.
How do you know that? In the placeholder topic there has been no update about the development status since a while.
WOW!!
Just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to thesire and joel2009 for being so extremely nice to a newbie!!! This is probably one of the first posts I have seen where a newbie doesn't get their head bitten off for asking a question. (I don't think I've ever asked a question for that very reason! LOL)
I was searching for the answer to 'what is SSPL' because I couldn't find it in the Wiki acronyms section. What a pleasant surprise! Sorry if this steers away from the topic but I just could NOT pass over this thread without saying THANKS!!!!!!!!
You wont get flamed for asking Questions in this Forum
as for the Acronyms, try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=265
more here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ#techicalJargon
my friends, you need to master the art of searching
So I actually risked to find my skin burnt by the flame?
I didn't even know that there was a wiki/knowledge base here. Well, I actually felt somthing like that, but I completely forgot about that when searching. I searched carefully indeed, but only in the forum, and since lots of topics contain the words SPL, HSPL and so on, I was unable to find relevant results.
I'll look there next time, thank you all again.
missbizzylizzy said:
Just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to thesire and joel2009 for being so extremely nice to a newbie!!! This is probably one of the first posts I have seen where a newbie doesn't get their head bitten off for asking a question. (I don't think I've ever asked a question for that very reason! LOL)
I was searching for the answer to 'what is SSPL' because I couldn't find it in the Wiki acronyms section. What a pleasant surprise! Sorry if this steers away from the topic but I just could NOT pass over this thread without saying THANKS!!!!!!!!
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hahaha.... why do you think i finally posted my first post after joining for 2 years. I just didn't want to tick someone off
Now i finally understood the term "SSPL & HSPL"!
how to find original SPL FOR HD2
Does anyone know where to fin dthe original 2.10 spl for hd2 so i can return it ?
Hi,
Rogers released new dream rom with a radio update.
We have 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I now
This new is:
62.52S.20.18U_3.22.20.17.
Anyone able to get it out so we can flash it on cyan latest mod rom?
Dont know exact radio version but go here for rom:
http://www.htc.com/ca/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=269&cat=2&dl_id=654
Thanks again.
the whole dump is an nbh file that has to be flashed from the sd. Anybody know how to crack it open?
I bet it contains other fixes as well! The message on Twitter said that they fixed some bugs!
jubeh said:
the whole dump is an nbh file that has to be flashed from the sd. Anybody know how to crack it open?
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I remember back when I had my Wizard, there was a tool to pick apart nbh images and reassemble them. But this was for Windows Mobile, a completely different platform. Perhaps the basic file formats are similar?
Use qmat. It can unpack nbhs.
Mmmm, new radio.......yummy.....I like new stuff.....wait if it is a new radio, will this be able to work for us, how to we know that this won't jeprodize us with the danger spl. I know I ain't gonna be the first to try this
gridlock32404 said:
Mmmm, new radio.......yummy.....I like new stuff.....wait if it is a new radio, will this be able to work for us, how to we know that this won't jeprodize us with the danger spl. I know I ain't gonna be the first to try this
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my thoughts exactly...took enough balls to go for the danger SPL in the first place.
my current radio works fine, so I am not going to mess.
then again...never say never. thats what XDA is all about
Well we know the radio calls the spl and that the old radio was not able to call the hayruko spl which cause way too many paperweights so how will we know if this radio will also call it, we can assume that since it is an update would but the word assume means to make an ass out of you and me, so is there any way that this can be checked or tested numerous times before we possibly get another wave of bricks and without a cupcake over the air excuse to fall back on. Just my thoughts.
Never change a running system my father tells. Me all the time.. ;-)
Yeah but I like new stuff, I got so used to it feeling like christmas around with new stuff all the time that I got spoiled. I have had this radio and spl for 3 months now and I am bored off it. I demand something new that could cause some new widespread havoc, can't we get something that causes a self destruct if installed incorrectly, kinda jealous of those iphone 3gs users and their exploding batteries, I want something that explodes and catches fire. I demand a refund what am I paying you dev for, wait I don't pay you, nevermind forget this whole post
P.s. I am just playing
rogers is DREA210
we have mostly DREA100/110
i dont think we r able to flash it...
Hardware is identical.
So it should work OK.
Just give me radio Rom only and i will flash it asap.
drea110 here.
You can go back to default by flashing DREAIMG.nbh and then re-flash with this Rom and all will be OK.BUT YOU WILL LOOSE ROOT!
And that is why i didn't flash it yet
Am waiting for someone to give a proper radio Rom to flash.
There will always be a question about whether any new radio image (IPL) that ships will be compatible with a hacked SPL or other SPL not intended for the specific device. This new IPL could very well brick every device it is installed on when mixed with the deathSPL. I very strongly suggest that nobody tries this IPL unless they switch back to their STOCK SPL. Now that HTC has so kindly provided the kernel source needed to build custom kernels that will boot on a stock dream as provided to rogers, there is absolutely NO NEED to continue using the deathSPL phone killer.
Hey, does this nbh file carry the SPL? (it must, doesn't it?)
If it does, then you could maybe just install this and reroot.
Yes it contains spl and radio rom and os rom on it so it will put back everything on stock.
But you will loose root and as of now there is no way to root on 1.5 version.. yet.
if there is i would flash it.
Re-root leave radio and check spl version.
if newer than deathspl would leave it and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
If not reflash haykuro new hacked spl back and then wipe and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
And am back in bussiness with new radio and/or spl.
But rooting on 1.5 cupcake needed to do that so...
demetris_I said:
Yes it contains spl and radio rom and os rom on it so it will put back everything on stock.
But you will loose root and as of now there is no way to root on 1.5 version.. yet.
if there is i would flash it.
Re-root leave radio and check spl version.
if newer than deathspl would leave it and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
If not reflash haykuro new hacked spl back and then wipe and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
And am back in bussiness with new radio and/or spl.
But rooting on 1.5 cupcake needed to do that so...
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Really REALLY WRONG!
As I rank your knowledge about SPLs,Radios and android itself with this post, you shouldn't flash this, except if you wouldn't cry and open up a thread "My G1 is dead" ;-)
maxisma said:
Really REALLY WRONG!
As I rank your knowledge about SPLs,Radios and android itself with this post, you shouldn't flash this, except if you wouldn't cry and open up a thread "My G1 is dead" ;-)
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And you base that on what?
1.5 is rootable - look for "goldcard"
Second: This update has a different SPL - It's not an Engineering SPL.
It replaces your recovery.
And I think these Recovery and ROM wouldn't boot on a regular T-Mobile G1, because it has a different radio chip.
It's very risky to flash this, because it's from a different phone.
It's NOT the same hardware!
maxisma said:
1.5 is rootable - look for "goldcard"
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I hope this is not a very stupid question, but why would you need a goldcard. Can't you just revert to RC29 and root you device the old and easy way?
maxisma said:
1.5 is rootable - look for "goldcard"
Second: This update has a different SPL - It's not an Engineering SPL.
It replaces your recovery.
And I think these Recovery and ROM wouldn't boot on a regular T-Mobile G1, because it has a different radio chip.
It's very risky to flash this, because it's from a different phone.
It's NOT the same hardware!
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Of course i didn't expect it to be engineering spl, this rom are made of normal ppl to use not experiment so normal spl would be on it but maybe the same as g1 or newer.
rogers only modification was on UMTS 850 / 1900 bands the normal g1 only supports UMTS 1700 / 2100 but rogers g1 users did flash radio rom from g1 vanilla see hardspl or even haykuro's hacked spl and they work fine so why not the contrary?
After all they keep the same base versions:
We have 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
They have 62.52S.20.18U_3.22.20.17.
If they had: 3.0008 i wouldn't bother smells from miles is not same radio hardware
But as you can see the code is identical to each other, only newer!
The hardware IS the same my friend only they dont have dvt only pvt motherboards and they all be flashed with latest haykuro's spl and radio!
If am wrong the os will load but i wont have cell reception but that is as far as it goes for a brick.
Am 99% this rom will do just fine on any pvt g1 phone out there.
As for goldcard, didnt know there is a way to root on 1.5 please enlighten me.
Is there anything to download to make this happen? ->link
if it is am more than 101% that this rom will go on my phone sweet.
After that i dont know what happens will i be able to flash haykuro spl back or i will have a brick? will it let me flash custom rom?
Over and out.
Universal Androot confirmed working. This method is no longer needed and is to dangourous for some people so please use universal androot 1.5.3+
IF READ CORRECTLY YOU WILL NOT BRICK. BUT, Since a few of you dont have that ability, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BRICKING YOUR PHONE. There are no pros to rooting this phone yet, leave it alone if you dont know what your doing PLEASE. I beg you. You are in essence almost bricking your phone in order to root it in the first place. These arent fun and games, It is dangerous to rush this stuff
Listen.. Im more then happy to help people. BUt I fully understand why so many devs have left this place. Some of you are so utterly ridiculous with your questions, wanting someone to hold your hand. I cant sit on gtalk for hours helping you go through what should take 10 min , I have a life and kids and other things to do. I did this because I was bored and wanted to see if I could. There is not point in rooting it yet, there are no roms, nor will there be for at least a month. Please, if you cant even understand simple questions, have never rooted or even used an android phone before, please.. do not bother me. This place is insane with stupidity. I will change the tutorial in a little more detail later, but fo rnow, DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YORU DOING. IF YOUR BREAK YOUR CRAP< I DONT CARE, BECAUSE IT WASNT MY FAULT.
I am in no way an angry or mean person, but you people have given me a migraine. I see why all the rom devs hide from here so much
THERE IS NO POINT IN ROOTING THIS PHONE YET PEOPLE, SO STOP.. OMG PLEASE STOP LOL
IT HAS BEEN DONE!!! lol
After 3 days, sleepless night and 5 min from returning the phone, Together with the Awesome Cursordroid We have achieved full root of the fender mytouch/ Mytouch 1.2 revision.
Now.. Understand.. not many will have the fender Mytouch.. but this is the hardware they WILL be using in the fully confirmed Mytouch 1.2
If you do not follow my instructions fully, NOTHING WILL WORK.
Start by making a working gold card, pay VERY CLOSE attention to what the instructions for making a gold card say
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/
READ READ READ. DO NOT download the SAPPimg.zip file it says on that page.
Get the top fixed SPL file 2010 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4332591&postcount=1
Once you have you working goldcard (remember, apply to PHYSICAL not LOGICAL) rename the fixed SPL/rom you just downloaded to SAPPIMG.img
Put that file on your gold card
Hold volume down while hitting power
You will boot into Hboot, and if goldcard was made correcly and file is in root, it will begin to read. MAke sure battery is full or chargeing. follow on screen directions for flashing. Reboot into Hboot.
You are now screwed with a downgraded SPL and radio that do not work on this phone YAAAAAAY.
Now grab the stock radio and SPL from Cursordroid here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5451898&posted=1#post5451898
From there on follow hiw directions for reupdating your radio and spl, plus give yourself a new recovery making ROOT.
Im not good at tutorials or typing on a tiny netbook keyboard so please forgive. Anyquestions please ask and I will go into more detail
In order
Goldcard
Amen ras fixed spl rom renamed SAPPIMG.img
Boot into Hboot volume down/power
let rom install saying yes to what it says. If it works..
Now boot into your recovery through fastboot
Flash phone with stock fender rom
reboot into fastboot
back out of update when it asks and flash STOCK radio and SPL back, now reboot
your splash screen for fender IS GONE, get over it. You can make a new one later if you realllly need to.
if you build the thread they will come, oh yes, they will come.
thebluecoat said:
if you build the thread they will come, oh yes, they will come.
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lol.. I figured if I could get a thread up with all our info, maybe I could get more people interested just for the fact hat nothing now works... which means this could be the same build in the coming Mytouch 1.2 that is basicly the same exact phone as the fender.
hey, im new here but i have a rooted g1. and i've been skimming thru the fender pages.
I also work at tmobile and used my discount to snag the fender. but as of now im still using my rooted g1 which currently has a tiny scratch on it which i cant stand "hence why i got a fender".
seems to me once the new mytouches come out with the 32a and 3.5 mm jack there will be more attempting to pwn his phone.
im still fairly new to all of this soo im tryin to soak up as much knowledge as i can.
but still w/o the root. the fender still is a sweet phone haha.
idk what to do with it, it just sits in my room i havent even put my sim into it yet. im deciding either to sell it or just let it sit until it can be rooted.
i use the wireless tether too much to switch to the mytouch.
in the mean time g'luck! kinda rough for us LE owners cuz only few people have it to play around with.
This might be noob as I am not 100% sure what perfected SPL means, but I had a SPL that gave the fastboot "no remote" error.
I used an official SEA RUU that comes with a ENG SPL, then I could update change what ever I wanted.
Thought I would just through it out there.
My phone is a model A6161.
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
maxisma said:
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
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The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
crypysmoker said:
The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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I've already tried that, didnt work for me, got "Invalid device ID" however, I cannot make a gold-card because I always get "damaged sd card" or windows says I need to format it right. I'm 100% sure I did it right to three different SD cards, and I still got the same error.
--edit-- if you successfully make a goldcard for this phone, Ill pm you for shipping info LOL!
crypysmoker said:
The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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I think, your current way will not end with success.
Wrong model id or device id means, that HTC decided pick out Fender in another serie. Yes, i agree, that Fender has same SPL as Magics, but trying flash anything, that has another model id like trying flash Hero's ROM to Tattoo.
SPL ia like a computer's BIOS. SO if you flash foreign bios - your comp will probably die....
Saddened by the fact that Fender is limited edition. So it will not have big knowledgebase like Magic.
5[Strogino] said:
I think, your current way will not end with success.
Wrong model id or device id means, that HTC decided pick out Fender in another serie. Yes, i agree, that Fender has same SPL as Magics, but trying flash anything, that has another model id like trying flash Hero's ROM to Tattoo.
SPL ia like a computer's BIOS. SO if you flash foreign bios - your comp will probably die....
Saddened by the fact that Fender is limited edition. So it will not have big knowledgebase like Magic.
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While the Fender is le, the mt3g 1.2 is the same hardware, so hopefully someone will get it figured out.
chrys9989 said:
While the Fender is le, the mt3g 1.2 is the same hardware, so hopefully someone will get it figured out.
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Oh. Chances growing up.
I'm new here, but typically how do people go about getting the attention of devs? Is it just create a thread an hope enough people show interest? Should we do a roll call of how many actually are interested in rooting this phone?
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I've already tried that, didnt work for me, got "Invalid device ID" however, I cannot make a gold-card because I always get "damaged sd card" or windows says I need to format it right. I'm 100% sure I did it right to three different SD cards, and I still got the same error.
--edit-- if you successfully make a goldcard for this phone, Ill pm you for shipping info LOL!
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No.. I got the gold card made. The only reason it ever comes up as damged or reformat is because you applied the goldimg to the logical drive which is at top of list as opposed to Physical REMOVABLE DISK at the bottm. Its the only time I can get the error. but if I apply the goldimg to the logical drive it makes a perfect goldcard everytime. I tested it on aspar g1. So... its not a godl card problem lol
maxisma said:
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
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Looking through here for HTC RUU roms I seem to keep geeting dragged to the hero and WinMob forums which I dont think I should be. Where exactly would I find this?
My ideas are..
Find a rom of higher version that is rooted see if it works.
Find an older 1.5 build (which is proving hard) and go from there
Try and flash the rooted fender donut over it and see the results.
My main problem with this is, I dont think its able to be downgraded past 1.6.. Just like newer PSP's cant be downgraded to 1.5
After formatiing my 2gb sandisk (which may be the problem) now when using the 98mb SAPPIMG.zip I get "Main version is older" instead of "Device id failed"
Is this a good sign to on the right track? Im going to try the 62mb SappIMG.zip from amon ra's tut as soon as its done downloading and see if theres a difference.
Now.. what does main version is older mean? The firmware or the spl/radio. if so... is there a newer version i can use/or substitute a file for the Sappimg.nbh to just install a higher version rom.
Man.. The G1 is so much easier to do all this with lol
YEEEEES. Ok. I freaking fracking diddley did it. OMG i was sooo scared.
Wooo So happy now.
I unable to update my OP and thread title if a mod can help me with that.
If noone minds I am going to post my first ever tutorial on something. this was a real pain but I am up and running on Amon ras latest rom for now. On to the recovery....
EDIT-- Got a fully functioning Manups 2.1 1.5 going. THEBLUECOAT if you want to know how to do it PM me... Otherwise give me about an hour or so and I will have a full tut posted
AHHH.. EVEN worse.. I noticed now that it says I have a 32b board NOOOO
EDIT2- Such a dumbass I didnt make a backup of the orignal. Poop.. I liked the boot image and music apps. I just wish I could figure out why all roms so far dont recognize the touch screen as being there and want me to use the track ball. Even power button has 1 option Power off lol
UMMM touch screen not working. What didnt I do?
How do I get my SDCARD to not show up under logical, its under logical but the drive says "removable disk" all I have are phones to use, would this not be possible or would I need a driver replacement
thebluecoat said:
How do I get my SDCARD to not show up under logical, its under logical but the drive says "removable disk" all I have are phones to use, would this not be possible or would I need a driver replacement
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you HAVE to use a card reader. thats where your problem has been. You have to use a card reader so that it sees the reader AND the card seperatly. So in hex, you dont see Logical drive then a row and then Physical and a row?
Im not pissed... I had the 2010 eng spl... trying to flash roms. No rom would use touch screen. so started over and ened up with a 32 b board now and a perfected spl again.... lol Argh... trying through it again now.
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you HAVE to use a card reader. thats where your problem has been. You have to use a card reader so that it sees the reader AND the card seperatly. So in hex, you dont see Logical drive then a row and then Physical and a row?
Im not pissed... I had the 2010 eng spl... trying to flash roms. No rom would use touch screen. so started over and ened up with a 32 b board now and a perfected spl again.... lol Argh... trying through it again now.
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Ok, so how did you get the spl changed? and what did you flash that was 32b?
chrys9989 said:
Ok, so how did you get the spl changed? and what did you flash that was 32b?
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I used Amen ras newest Fixed spl fix 1.33.2010, made my gold card, renamed that file to SAPPIMG.zip, went into Hboot and it flashed without a problem.
I then rebooted into Hboot seeing the new Info.. Didnt look at the 32a/32b part yet so not sure if it happened there.
It then rebooted into whatever rom that file came with (look for Amen ras Fixed spl thread) the rom came up, with no tocu screen. only the track ball worked.
I rebooted and stupidly jumped right into flashing a couple of the new clair builds from king and.. the othe rguy lol. neither had touch support. I then went back to update to manups newest and used the 32a port file, and no touch screen...
I then rebooted and flashed the amen ra rom and rebooted into a Mytouch boot loop... went into Hboot and had a perfected spl and S-on. ARGH.
Just started from scratch again. Im really wondering why i loose touch screen support and why in the hell it say 32b now
I bricked my 1st magic;
now i have 2nd and i have no idea how to run adb and all the stuff around and after my first very bad experience i decided to to try again.
I would like to know if is possible load any rom without using nandroid.
/BTW if someone in Toronto put recovery and change radio for me;i'd pay for it/
thanks.
Like I tell everyone who posts a very vague question. What model is yours?
Pick one (32[] is shown on fastboot screen back+power)
A) MyTouch 3G 32A (Magic 32A)
B) MyTouch 3G 32B (Magic 32B)
C) MyTouch 3G Limited Edition (Fender) or 1.2 (with headphone jack on top)
Pick Radio
A) 2.xx
B) 3.xx
C) 6.xx
Hboot (usually something like 0006, 0010, 0007 etc
So on (Basically could just list your Fastboot screen)
Also clarify if you can enter fastboot (back + power) and if you can enter recovery (holding down Home + Power)
So you bricked your first.... still dont know what you are doing... obviously have no clue what Nandroid really is...
I suggest DONT DO IT....
But thats just my logical opinion
Mine is 32A and radio is 3.22.; hboot 0009
kbeezie said:
Like I tell everyone who posts a very vague question. What model is yours?
Pick one (32[] is shown on fastboot screen back+power)
A) MyTouch 3G 32A (Magic 32A)
B) MyTouch 3G 32B (Magic 32B)
C) MyTouch 3G Limited Edition (Fender) or 1.2 (with headphone jack on top)
Pick Radio
A) 2.xx
B) 3.xx
C) 6.xx
Hboot (usually something like 0006, 0010, 0007 etc
So on (Basically could just list your Fastboot screen)
Also clarify if you can enter fastboot (back + power) and if you can enter recovery (holding down Home + Power)
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Yes you're Absolutely right. That's why I started this thread. I had my first rooted and had RA recovery.and I did it by myself.but that time I used "one click method" from unlockr. But my current phone doesn't work with that method.that's why I'm lost.
I'd like to have custom recovery and 6.35 radio and nice ROM but I know I don't know how to do it. That's why I'm asking for your help.
thanks anybody for any help.
crypysmoker said:
So you bricked your first.... still dont know what you are doing... obviously have no clue what Nandroid really is...
I suggest DONT DO IT....
But thats just my logical opinion
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rony05 said:
Yes you're Absolutely right. That's why I started this thread. I had my first rooted and had RA recovery.and I did it by myself.but that time I used "one click method" from unlockr. But my current phone doesn't work with that method.that's why I'm lost.
I'd like to have custom recovery and 6.35 radio and nice ROM but I know I don't know how to do it. That's why I'm asking for your help.
thanks anybody for any help.
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Not sure why you want the new radio, is there specifically a rom you're looking to load?
Also just to clarify, the new magic, is there a headphone jack on top?
kbeezie said:
Not sure why you want the new radio, is there specifically a rom you're looking to load?
Also just to clarify, the new magic, is there a headphone jack on top?
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the magic is "old kind" without jack on top. i was thinking to get new radio b/c i saw much more new ROM's are coming in new radio and old is getting to be forgotten.
rony05 said:
the magic is "old kind" without jack on top. i was thinking to get new radio b/c i saw much more new ROM's are coming in new radio and old is getting to be forgotten.
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There's about 1 stable rom for the new radio. Two at the most.
kbeezie said:
Pick one (32[] is shown on fastboot screen back+power)
A) MyTouch 3G 32A (Magic 32A)
B) MyTouch 3G 32B (Magic 32B)
C) MyTouch 3G Limited Edition (Fender) or 1.2 (with headphone jack on top)
Pick Radio
A) 2.xx
B) 3.xx
C) 6.xx
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Ignore below, I misunderstood kbeezie
I thought 32A uses 3.xx. 32B can also use 3.xx, correct me if I'm wrong. From what I know, I wouldn't flash a 2.xx radio to a 32A.
Can't you just use the goldcard method? Try unlockrs one click root and try to flash an engineering SPL
i bought this 2nd magic from a guy and he already has custom ROM in it. but he has not put recovery image in it. so i wonder how he did it. all im looking for is change ROM's .
so back to my first post; is it possible load without using nandroid?
thank you
KAwAtA said:
There's about 1 stable rom for the new radio. Two at the most.
I thought 32A uses 3.xx. 32B can also use 3.xx, correct me if I'm wrong. From what I know, I wouldn't flash a 2.xx radio to a 32A.
Can't you just use the goldcard method? Try unlockrs one click root and try to flash an engineering SPL
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You need to use fastboot/adb to push new ROM images to the phone.
You need to post all the information from your phone. I need to know if it's an eng or perfected spl as well. Getting Hboot 0009 isn't enough.
Also, can you please do me a favour before I act like a jerk.
crypysmoker said:
So you bricked your first.... still dont know what you are doing... obviously have no clue what Nandroid really is...
I suggest DONT DO IT....
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No kidding. I also suggest you don't do it. So please, do this before I become an asshole
Go find out what the nandroid stuff does.
I'm just surprised that you've bricked your first Magic, yet you still continue not to do much research before rooting.
As done some weeks ago for the G1 now there is a success in de-bricking a Magic 32A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6260574&postcount=510
Cheers,
bart99
woow! great job! cheers ; ))
Very good news, congrats bart99 and ezterry for de-bricking both Dream and Magic
could it be a way to break Perfect SPL?
sychie said:
could it be a way to break Perfect SPL?
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That was the first thing i tought when started to read this thread!!! Hope so!
yes it should work, with jtag its possible to load a different spl to ram and then execute it
for mor info post on the other topic, ezterry did something similiar
bart99
Wow you guys are actually considering doing this to a functioning magic just to get root? daredevils
Anyway, great work!
Well if the goldcard method is not working for someone, this could be their solution(if they have enough knowledge of course ).
eyegor said:
Wow you guys are actually considering doing this to a functioning magic just to get root? daredevils !
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and here I have jtaged other peoples working dreams to give them root
not yet tried a magic.. but will likely in the near future
I like to send my MyTouch Fender to someone to have it unbrick it; If anyone can please let me know. I live in the US but can mail it anywhere.
ezterry said:
and here I have jtaged other peoples working dreams to give them root
not yet tried a magic.. but will likely in the near future
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i would love to try it on the htc magic 32A.
cmarti said:
I like to send my MyTouch Fender to someone to have it unbrick it; If anyone can please let me know. I live in the US but can mail it anywhere.
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lol. be careful with that. you might not get it back.
anyways, i'd be scared to try this. it seems like a few things could go wrong and you might just end up being out of one phone. probably need REAL steady hands.
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lol. be careful with that. you might not get it back.
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heh
It is also assuming (seems likely but I don't think we can promise it) that the fender has the same jtag ports as the 32a/32b phones..
Also since there is so much problems rooting these things.. (And even the root now seems to be with the original kernel only) what will happen when it meets my jtag hack?
basically:
* If you are lucky it will just become a 32a/EBI1 w/ headphones.. [no I don't think I see a problem with that]
* a bit less lucky it will become a 32a/EBI1 w/ useless headphone jack
* even less lucky whomever is rooting it gets to chase down the fender firmware to make it go.. and additional radio hacks
* and unlucky damages a trace removing glue from the magics main board. (the rogers magic 32a has some brown epoxy that is hard as a rock filling the gap between the processor and ground shield over the jtag points.)
r3s-rt said:
lol. be careful with that. you might not get it back.
anyways, i'd be scared to try this. it seems like a few things could go wrong and you might just end up being out of one phone. probably need REAL steady hands.
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Honestly I don't mind if it gets lost, It's paper weight anyway now...
cmarti said:
Honestly I don't mind if it gets lost, It's paper weight anyway now...
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Same situation here as well. I'd love for someone to help me unbrick - it just goes straight to trying to update the radio but then the screen fades out and it hangs. Sigh.
Tereno said:
Same situation here as well. I'd love for someone to help me unbrick - it just goes straight to trying to update the radio but then the screen fades out and it hangs. Sigh.
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So via some experimenting on my JTAGed dream I think I understand where the issue some people are having with the radio flashes on the 6.x radio.
When you flash a radio the SPL loads the radio image file into ram and calls a 'radata' command in the radio bootloader. The exact location and size are passed to the radata function.
* The 1.33.* SPLs load the radio image this near 0x103B5300;
* The 1.76.2007 SPL loads the radio image near 0x19500000
This major change in memory location appears to be important. The 6.x radio will loop forever validating the image when it is loaded at the lower memory address.. while flashes as usual at the higher address.
This means if you still have 1.33.2010 installed and flash a radio it will fail.
Flashing via fastboot this will get stuck (maybe fade the screen) until you pull the battery/usb; then boot the device as normal.
However if you do this via recovery: recovery will set the SPL boot mode to flash the radio from cache; and since the radio flash fails to ever return this setting is never cleared. Thus every time you boot the radio attempts and fails to flash.
(This appears to be many peoples problems if you really have 1.76.2007 and stuck in radio flash mode [boot mode 4] my guess is the radio.img has some bit errors or newly formed bad block in /cache.. causing the signature check to fail [despite the radio.img being validated when the zip file was opened via recovery].. I have seen this on one Dream I de-bricked)
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PS: the 6x radio is a no go on the dream.. blue light mode goes.. and with some prodding via JTAG I can softboot a SPL or re-flash a 3x or 2x radio.. but that is about the extent of what appears to work.
anyone willing to give my tmobile mytouch 3g a shot?
Not sure the radio/spl that is on it now since its bricked only get splash screen
But when I got the phone it was
spl: 1.33.06 30000
26i
willing to send it to anyone
Press and hold volume down and press Power. Can you get into fastboot? If so, you're not bricked.
Me too Success unbrick my touch 3g 1.2
Ezterry you are genius, as i follow your guide,with a lot of pain process,trial and error, i built my own JTAG wiggler interface and with a little mods.
everything has working..Good Job Ezterry..
now i can smile .
good job brother
bart9984 said:
As done some weeks ago for the G1 now there is a success in de-bricking a Magic 32A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6260574&postcount=510
Cheers,
bart99
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I am success too with Tvalls Mytouch 3 g..but cant send it back ,cause shipping so expensive here in Indonesia,,
Really sorry