When I first got my G-tab I was baffled by all the instructions and the literally thousands of posts in the forum. Even now, I haven't been able to find exactly how (or why) I should update my kernel. That said, I have TNT Lite running and I love my g-tab. Exploring the possible uses and utilities on it provides hours of fun. Now - here is my question. I stumbled on some instructions for installing the ROM and I have used those same instructions to install several patches to the Rom. I see all this commentary on Clockwork, side loading, etc. and I wonder if I am missing something. Today I just installed the .25 patch for TNT-Lite. I downloaded the rar file, unzipped it on my PC to get the Recovery folder and the update.zip file. I plugged the g-tab into the pc and switched it to usb mode. Then I moved the old recover folder and update.zip to a folder (cautious me) and put the new ones in the root. I disconnected the usb and started the g-tab in recovery mode (holding the power and volume+ key. It rebooted, applied the patch and I was done. That seems simple enough. It would seem that this would work for switching roms, applying patches and probably even upgrading the kernel (If I knew where it was and why I should do it). Am I missing something? Everything seems to work.
Sounds like you got the basics ok.
The real main reason to update the kernal as i see it is to add things like driver support for devices like gps and g3, so on, also minor fixs. If your not using your gtab for anything like this you maybe happy to stay stock. But if you like myself like to use your gtab to surf with g3 or as a sweet gps, then thats what the kernal updates allow. Im sure others can correct me if ive got anything wrong or add to what ive said.
You got the basic steps right, but installing ClockWorkMod Recovery has a lot of benefits.
First, built in backup and recovery will save your skin if the gTab get "cranky".
Second, installing ROMs and/or updates saves you a few steps. From "tar" files (TnT-lite), extract the update.zip file to a folder (I created a folder named "xda", just an example) and name it after the version of ROM/update.
CWM will flash "*.zip" file. This way you can keep multiple ROMs/updates on the card and switch between them.
CWM lets you clear cache, wipe Data partition, clear Dalvik-cache (use caution there), fix permissions and so much more! It is a great tool.
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So now we peel back another layer
OK so now the question of multiple roms comes up. I am not clear about the role of the rom - can I switch roms and keep all of my apps and data intact? I'm thinking like changing style sheets on a web page - presentation is different but the underlying data is still the same? Is it that easy?
And... if I am doing that perhaps I need to "clear cache" or "wipe data partition" but although I like to investigate new things I'm not willing to just walk up and push the big red button without knowing what it is for. So why would I "clear" or "wipe" things?
I get the impression that I could switch between ROMs just like switching between browsers on a pc - today Chrome, tomorrow, Firefox and never Internet Exploder... Is that correct? It took me quite a while to get the market working and it still doesn't work optimally but I'd hate to undo all the work I've done getting the g-tab humming along by switching roms. Can I?
So - anyone care to expound on the structure and how it all hooks together? What parts can be swapped out and what parts form the foundation? I'd hate to brick the little guy in my ignorance.
One final note if you know and you answer - where did YOU learn about this. Is there a book somewhere to read?
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
The Need for A Wiki
I'm in the same boat as enigma. I'm not even sure what ROM is an acronym for, though I think it means operating system. A wiki would be a big help for many people. I bet people would be glad to contribute.
Well, I don't know about Android book, especially about "hacking android book" , but this (and others) forum has plenty of reading material and guides. Not to mention people (a lot more knowledgeable and experienced than me) who will offer advice and lend a hand. And Google search comes in handy too.
Switching ROMs is almost like switching the OS, or a flavor of. Very much like switching between Linux distributions; the base OS is the same, but the overlay changes the user experience. Some things do change deep down inside, that's why is advisable to clear data.
Android, like Linux which it is based on, uses separate partitions for different parts of the OS, like boot, recovery, data, cache and user data. Plenty of write ups and discussions on the web on that.
So when flashing a ROM, you'll rewrite boot and system. Your user apps and data/preferences pertaining to those apps are stored in data partition, and since you are changing the 'OS', the apps need to be recompiled for it. Backup apps, like Titanium Backup, come extremely handy here: backup and restore apps AND appdata with a few clicks.
Backups are stored on sdcard, which is a lot like Linux /home directory, and do not get wiped during flash. Also the CWM (sometimes called Nandroid) backups are also stored there. A backup-of-the-backup is always a good habit (copy of /sdcard to your PC for safekeep).
This is just a quick rundown, hopefully that answered some of the questions.
There is a world of information available out there in "ether-world", Google is your friend.
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Some links:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://lifehacker.com/#!5596108/how-to-choose-the-right-android-rom-for-you
and of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=841
(use the search on top of the screen)
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Doesn't my sticky on how to flash the roms help at all? I can try to make it clearer if you have suggestions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892090
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Doesn't my sticky on how to flash the roms help at all? I can try to make it clearer if you have suggestions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892090
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Yes, your Sticky is as clear as Florida sky.
I just installed Thumb Keyboard on my gTab last night and I guess I got carried away getting used to it!
Yes, I have found some very good step by steps (reflashed to vegan after reading that one). Step by steps are great but I 'd like to understand why I'm doing it. The market fix...I can follow the steps and it works but why? I wish I had time to research all these things but there are so many forums,so many posts to read! The explanation that did surface in this thread was great though. Thanks. I'll keep asking questions. There are a lot of smart people out there!
I have a Viewsonic G Tab that I flashed to Cyanogen 7. Now when I plug the device into my computer, it only reads the SD card I inserted (not the phone's internal memory). Plus, I can't use any file explorer programs to copy and paste from the SD card to the phone's memory. This is making things like flashing a different rom or adding the marketplace pretty much impossible. Any help? I'm new to rooting tabs, but I've hacked quite a few phones.
If there's a dev out there that has an answer that gets me up and running, I'd be more than happy to donate.
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I have a Viewsonic G Tab that I flashed to Cyanogen 7. Now when I plug the device into my computer, it only reads the SD card I inserted (not the phone's internal memory). Plus, I can't use any file explorer programs to copy and paste from the SD card to the phone's memory. This is making things like flashing a different rom or adding the marketplace pretty much impossible. Any help? I'm new to rooting tabs, but I've hacked quite a few phones.
If there's a dev out there that has an answer that gets me up and running, I'd be more than happy to donate.
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I have read other reports of this, though i don't have a solution for this problem, you could try something else.
When you are connected over usb, use adb from the android sdk and try "adb push file_on_computer file_on_device" to get some files on there.
Crap, I am not a programmer, and haven't gotten into using adb. I don't expect a full explanation of what adb is and how to get it and other android sdk stuff on my computer, as I know there are tons of posts and resources on this and other forums that will get me there.
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Crap, I am not a programmer, and haven't gotten into using adb. I don't expect a full explanation of what adb is and how to get it and other android sdk stuff on my computer, as I know there are tons of posts and resources on this and other forums that will get me there.
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Searching is always better , but i will give you some hints:
Download the SDK here
Install it.
Open the windows command prompt. (press windows button + R, type "cmd" , press enter)
If you installed it to "C:\android" go to "C:\android\platform-tools" inside the command prompt.
Type adb -h to see all available commands.
If you have further questions, google them, if you still have questions, come here and ask .
Cool, thanks. I bought this to try and save a few (hundred) bucks over the Xoom, and got the added bonus of getting to tweak it, which I kind of enjoy, I was just hoping to not have to learn this much stuff.
On a related note, if I get the device back to factory stock, do you know if I can download an app to my Android phone's SD card, drop the card into my Viewsonic, and load the apk from there? Loading the Android market on this thing sounds complicated (though it'll be child's play if I can bring it back to life).
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Cool, thanks. I bought this to try and save a few (hundred) bucks over the Xoom, and got the added bonus of getting to tweak it, which I kind of enjoy, I was just hoping to not have to learn this much stuff.
On a related note, if I get the device back to factory stock, do you know if I can download an app to my Android phone's SD card, drop the card into my Viewsonic, and load the apk from there? Loading the Android market on this thing sounds complicated (though it'll be child's play if I can bring it back to life).
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Well if you want tweaking you will have to learn a bit .
Depends on the app. If it is copyprotected or is using the licensing service i don't think you can copy it over.
Cyanogen came with a copy of ROM manager pre-installed on boot. A lot of features were limited to the full version, but I managed to do some reformatting and stuff (I wish I knew exactly what I did) and managed to get a different ROM installed and all seems to be working well.
I don't mind learning, but I either have to do it while I'm at work, which takes me off the sales floor, or at home, and I have a new kid to take care of, so the less learning I *have* to do, the better. But the nice thing about Android is that it is for the most part fairly resilient, and I've yet to encounter a software problem I couldn't fix.
OK.... Ive been an HTC Desire owner for a year and regularly flash ROMs but ive managed to be able to distance myself from the whole adb 'thing' thanks to Unrevoked (ie a 1-click-root).
Being an owner of a Transformer now Id love to be able to root the beast and carry on with Flashing and tweaking but the whole rooting thing now scares me a little
ive done a fair amount of googling and I believe it requires install of software and drivers but most guides are for Android 2.1/2.2 etc and I know 3.0 is a different ballgame ..... Im also running windows 7 64 bit which seems to make things more complex. I fo have a dual boot to ubuntu but ive only really been using that to play around - im no Linux expert !!
Anyone know if there is likely to be a one-click-root developed for Honeycomb ?
adb - or the initial setup of adb - scares me
ADB setup isn't that hard, there are loads of guides on the internet already. I'm running W7 x64 and I didn't really run into any problems getting ADB up and running.
ADB isnt as hard as it sounds, its worth it to learn since there so much you can do with it. its just a matter of knowing what code to use and most of the time its posted and you just have to copy and paste. i prefer to use ADB sometimes instead to scripts that way you know exactly whats going on.
but im sure there will be easier ways to root if you just wait, there's still a huge shortage and im sure lots of people that want to develop for the TF are still waiting to get their hands on one.
ADB isn't all that daunting and besides, learning new things is enjoyable My hesitancy to root rests in some of the issues that folks are having. My screen wouldn't wake up once, I had to reboot to get my TF going again. I'm waiting now
to make sure the unit is solid and stable running the stock configuration. I don't want to root only to have the thing decide to become a paperweight 3 days later.
Using ADB should not be beyond anyone who has rooted and installed bits before. I think it is the lack of GUI and reassuring responses and prompts that people miss and are used to.
if you are following this guide and ADB is responding well, you can even cut and paste the commands into your command window (on PC you can) and this helps prevents missing spaces and syntax problems.
Bottom line though - if you are not comfortable doing it, don't risk it.
lol.... OK.... ive had a go ..... and i think it has worked
didnt help that my 'installing archives' in the Android SDK Manager is now hanging due to the washing machine in the garage catching fire and blowing the fuses therefore causing my connection to the web to break halfway through downloading
... and now im having problems downloading blob5 as it says im running concurrent downloads ....
Its always the unexpected stuff that causes problems
I love the smell of an electrical washing machine fire in the morning
Yep, had problem getting blob5 too. Didn't like my IP address? Got it from work instead - Don't tell the 'IT Police' (Although I am sure their logs will grass me up)
can anyone provide an alternative link to blob5? won't let me download
You could try resetting your ADSL modem to obtain a new IP address - that might work. As I mentioned above the site decided I had abused my download limit (at my first attempt!) and blocked my current IP.
Assuming you are not on a static address?
I'm on static
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can anyone provide an alternative link to blob5? won't let me download
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Try this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3387763/CWM_BLOB_V5
cheers
that's done the trick
You're welcome.
I've just ordered myself a Transformer and will no doubt want to root it after a while, if there any particular ROM that's considered the 'best so far'?
from what I gather most of the roms are still very early days. at this point I'm after root for nandroid and some of the root apps.
ok... very noob question
the root guide says to copy the blob/files to your 'adb directory' ... which directory is that ? the android-sdk directory ? or a sub folder of that ???
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ok... very noob question
the root guide says to copy the blob/files to your 'adb directory' ... which directory is that ? the android-sdk directory ? or a sub folder of that ???
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copy it to platform-tools
android-sdk-windows/platform-tools/blob (all files + blob should be here)
also you can hold shift + right click platform-tools and choose open cmd window here.
Ok, for anyone who finds this. I'm writing out a quick guide for what I was led through. I've borrowed a few lines from some other threads as well
This guide will take an original stock SideKick 4g that has not otherwise been modified, flashed, etc and lead you through the steps to running a custom ROM. This should lead to a smoother running system with less lag, longer battery life, etc.
[Edit] I was pointed later to a nice FAQ by xmeatizmurderx, which, while not a guide, does have some questions answered you might have, along with some definitions and whatnot that might help make things clearer for you or if you just like know what it is something actually does or is. ^..^
I personally updated to Gingerclone v2, BUT any of the custom ROMs are installed exactly the same way. I do not list links to all of them, so you might have to find the one you want when you get to that stage if you do not want to use Gingerclone.
While I did originally update to GCv2, I had some issues and we're not sure why. So I changed over to CleanFusion v3. It's much more similar to the stock system in looks and all. I would also suggest, make sure you have a backup of all your stuff (contacts in particular) off your sim, on another card/phone/google/whatever. Most of my contacts dissapeared, we think because it's an old sim that likes to be wonky with some of the new phones. But still, be forewarned.
After the device is rooted, you can use MyBackup Root (free in the market) to backup all your applications and data to your SD, which you can then copy to your computer as well.
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First, download SuperOneClick from http://shortfuse.org/ . Whatever the most recent version is.
The file you downloaded of SuperOneClick is a .zip file. You'll need to extract it to its own folder (if you don't have a program to do this, download .7zip here http://www.7-zip.org/download.html).
Download the Samsung drivers ~ In this case, the Samsung Vibrant drivers work for the Sidekick 4g. Drivers found under the 'software' tab here http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-T959ZKDTMB
Install the Drivers to your computer and reboot it.
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With the phone unplugged, enable USB Debugging. On the home screen of the phone select Settings > Applications > Development and then select USB Debugging so that a Check appears on the selection box.
When enabled, connect the phone to your PC.
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Run SuperOneClick (the .exe file) which is on your computer. When the program has opened click 'Root'.
The program will pop through a bunch of windows, if it asks to install something like mine did, say yes. When it finishes, it asks if you would like to test it. Say yes.
Your phone is now rooted.
I disconnected from the computer and rebooted the phone (turn off and then on again).
Plug the phone back into the computer.
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Next step is to go to this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124453
[EDIT/UPDATE] Krylon360's files moved or something, find the recovery.zip and update.zip here http://db.androidspin.com/Developer_Display.asp?DeveloperID=248
I was advised to go through the first post, as I’d learn more. But apparently there’s an automated script somewhere in this same thread if that’s your preference. I quite enjoyed learning how to access everything myself, in case I ever need to use it for something.
You will need Root Explorer ($3.99) from the android market. I tried Astro File Manager, and it’s lovely, except for the fact that you need to buy the Pro edition in order to access the /system files. >:C
(Basically you need a file manager on the phone that will allow you to copy files into your /system/bin file on the phone.)
Download both of the files listed in the thread I just gave. You will mount your SD card (on the home page of your phone, drop down that little black menu thing at the very top, select USB storage and enable it).
Place the file ‘recovery’ and the zipped file ‘update’ onto your SD card. Nowhere in particular, just in that main area that appears when you open the SD.
Now is a good time to put the ROM you want to flash onto the SD as well.
[EDIT]: Please keep in mind I'm not a developer and I don't plan to live on this forum. So new ROMs will be developed and I probably won't be around to update this list. So make sure to look around for threads about new ROMs to start with or update to. ^..^
Those suggested to me were :
Gingerclone: Apparently themed very green.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231021 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
TouchMIUIwiz: Very similar to Gingerclone, but more greys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207328 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
Smooth Maximus: Themed very blue and black
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158250 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
Clean Fusion: Clean and pretty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204131 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
Of course, there are likely other ones out there, these are just the main ones my supporter knows intimately enough to note. He had a really hard time recommending just one. XD
Whatever you go with, it's always a good idea to have a backup of your phone system, which we go through later in the guide when you need it, so don't fret.
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Feel free to use whatever new ROM you'd like, either listed above or another on the Development Forums, I was told all the following steps would be exactly the same, just using a different custom ROM.
I’m going with Gingerclone v2, as I was informed that while it did crash on my helper once, it seems to be overall the most consistent one that he’s tried.
The above linked thread for GingerClone has two files, I’m using the top one, as I do not have the original release installed.
This .zip file you just downloaded can be copied onto the SD root menu (the main menu available when you access the SDcard from 'My Computer').
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Unmount your SDcard from the computer (that little black bar on the top of your phone's home screen, turn off the usb connection). Disconnected from the computer even if you want.
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Open Root Explorer. Navigate to access the SD card (it has its own file in the root menu you start off in). Copy the ‘recovery’ file, navigate back and paste it into /system/bin (to get there, navigate back by tapping the top option 'parent directory', select 'system', select 'bin', paste it in there). Do not delete the original 'recovery' file in here. It will automatically ask if you want to overwrite the file. Say yes.
If it give you the error “you cannot paste here because the file system is read-only.’ Then at the top, tap the “R/W” square so that it then reads “R/O”. Paste again, select ‘yes’ to overwrite the file.
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Next you’ll turn the phone off so you can boot into recovery mode. To do this, while turned off, you’ll hold the volume up and volume down buttons together, then, while holding them, press the power button. Let go of all three together once the screen starts up.
If you get some blue text, a little warning looking sign over the droid dude, and some yellow text, then you're in the right place.
In here use the volume up and down buttons to navigate through the options and use the power button to select something.
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Highlight “reinstall packages” and use the power button to select it once it’s highlighted.
You’ll have orange text now. So first, let’s backup the phone, JUST IN CASE something goes funky. (nothing went wonky for me)
Navigate to ‘backup and restore’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘backup’ and select it.
It should be backing up now, with a little nasty coloured yellow progress bar at the bottom.
Once the backup is done, you should be back at the original orange texted screen.
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This next bit is important:
Navigate to ‘mounts and storage’ and select it.
It should read:
unmount /chache
mount /data
mount /sdcard
unmount /system
(My phone said “unmount /sdcard” which isn't important. The only thing that NEEDS to read correctly is 'unmount /system' - If it says 'mount system', you need to navigate to it and select it so that it reads correctly)
If your list reads like the above, then you’re good. Click the ‘back’ button, which is the arrow on the bottom left corner of the phone (if you're holding it the way I am. ;p).
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Navigate to ‘wipe data/factory reset’ and select it.
Navigate to the ‘yes -- delete all user data’ and select it.
Repeat this twice more. (That’ll be three times total.)
Navigate to ‘wipe cache partition’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘yes -- Wipe Cache’ and select it.
Repeat this twice more. (Again, three times total.)
Next, navigate to ‘advanced’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘wipe Dalvik Cache’ and select it.
Repeat this twice more. (Three times total.)
I was told to go back to the mounts and storage menu to make sure it still says ‘unmount /system’. Mine did still say this. If it doesn't read correctly, it won't boot right. Fix it if you need to.
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Next I’m going to install GingerClone.
To reiterate, if you want to use a different custom ROM, go for it, the steps are the exact same, you just need the correct ROM download (which should be a .zip file).
Go back up a menu, navigate to ‘install zip from sdcard’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘choose zip from sdcard’ and select it.
Navigate to the GingerClone.zip (the name is longer than that, but you should know what I’m talking about.) and select it.
It’ll go through installing GingerClone now, with that ugly yellow progress bar at the bottom again.
When it’s done installing. Go back again to the ‘mounts and storage’ menu to check that the system is still unmounted (should still read ‘unmount /system’) Mine did mount my SDcard, but that’s fine. If it reads ‘mount /system’ then navigate to it and select it so that it reads ‘unmount /system’.
Good job so far! Go back to the main menu and navigate to ‘reboot system now’ and select it.
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Bit odd seeming. It did take longer to boot up. First my phone talked to me, which I was told was the Voodoo LagFix. Then it started blowing sparklers into an X which is also good as that means it’s booting up. (I'm not sure, but it might look different for other custom ROMs.)
The normal screen that’s still ‘locked’ before you would go to the home screen should have the options to slide up (Start Using) or down (Tune a few things first). I was told to go ahead and do the tune bit and “just hit next a buncha times and get rid of it.” ;p It’s pretty straight forward setup stuff.
In case you’re wondering, that ‘update.zip’ that you downloaded earlier when you downloaded the recovery file? Well, when you reinstalled packages, it did that one automatically. So it's taken care of, no worries.
From now on, if Voodoo LagFix is on and you go into recovery mode (when you turned it off and held the volume buttons and turned it back on) then the text should be red. You can check if you want though it's not necessary, the red just indicates that Voodoo LagFix is indeed installed.
I was told that there are options in recovery mode to disable Voodoo LagFix or to convert back to the original file system. I haven't messed with them and don't plan to so long as this keeps working nice for me.
So. Yay! Have fun exploring and customizing your improved system!
I may have typed this sucker up, but basically all credit goes to the hours of support given to me by yogi2010 who is entirely awesome.
If there *is* anything that's a bit off or inaccurate, place the blame on me as interpreter, I just wrote out what I did, and if I thought it might be necessary, how something worked to the best of my very limited knowledge.
Great work!
I tried installing a new rom on my sk4g a few months ago and couldn't get it to work so i left it alone in fear of bricking my phone. I finally got the balls to try again and used this link and it worked perfectly. Thanks so much and good work yogi2010 and Kediil!
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I tried installing a new rom on my sk4g a few months ago and couldn't get it to work so i left it alone in fear of bricking my phone. I finally got the balls to try again and used this link and it worked perfectly. Thanks so much and good work yogi2010 and Kediil!
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Glad you got it all working!
Why do you think posting a noob/how to guide after we have like 4 is a good idea? How many of these guides do we need already? This forum is getting filled with junk and overposting
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Why do you think posting a noob/how to guide after we have like 4 is a good idea? How many of these guides do we need already? This forum is getting filled with junk and overposting
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If there's another guide that has all the steps, from very beginning to finish, I'd suggest you find someone to sticky it. I spent three days going through the forums and could not find a single guide that took me through everything, step by step, which is why I put this together, assuming that because I could not find it, it did not exist.
Be it this one or another, there needs to be a guide for a know-nothing-noob such as myself to follow without having to hunt down the separate bits and hope I put them together in the right order, and it needs to be stickied in the top of one of the forums, preferably in the General or Development area.
that has all the steps, from very beginning to finish, I'd suggest you find someone to sticky it. I spent three days going through the forums and could not find a single guide that took me through everything, step by step, which is why I put this together, assuming that because I could not find it, it did not exist.
Be it this one or another, there needs to be a guide for a know-nothing-noob such as myself to follow without having to hunt down the separate bits and hope I put them together in the right order, and it needs to be stickied in the top of one of the forums, preferably in the General or Development area.[/QUOTE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135634
It's the 3rd post down in the development section and takes everything from start to finish, you obviously didn't search very hard
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Why do you think posting a noob/how to guide after we have like 4 is a good idea? How many of these guides do we need already? This forum is getting filled with junk and overposting
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Wow, I find that comment extremely rude and out of place. I personally find this guide much easier to follow, and many may agree with me. I don't see anything wrong with having different tutorials on the same operation. Look around, I guarantee you will see it happening everywhere, not just on these forums. So long as it doesn't purposely mislead people, I don't see the harm in it. In fact, it seems to me that, your comment is the one adding more 'junk' to the forums. As you have now posted a reply that does not benefit the community at all, instead its provoking unnecessary posting. If it is so bothersome to you, and if this post really falls into your 'junk' category, discuss it in private if your position in these forums allows it, but not here where you are making a comment which puts down someones good-hearted attempt to help out the community.
@Kediil Thank you for this post. There can never be 'too many' helpful people.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135634
It's the 3rd post down in the development section and takes everything from start to finish, you obviously didn't search very hard
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I did go through, and I did see that one, but I had no idea what it was. The name of the thread didn't make it obvious to me, who knew absolutely nothing, that it was a guide. I didn't know what rooting was, or if I needed to do it, or how (for all there's a guide within the rooting thread). I didn't know what CWM was. I didn't know what a kernal actually was, or how to 'flash' it.
Looking at the guide you linked, if you know more or less what you're doing, then it could prove helpful, if a bit blunt. But coming at it from the perspective of knowing absolutely nothing, it didn't help me in the least.
I know it can be difficult to know something and have to deal with people who know nothing, but if there's no sure-fire, solid way for the new person to learn without needing a knowledgeable person to help, then you'll just continue to be needlessly frustrated.
@ merman123 Thank you very much for the support. ^..^ It's already helped at least one person, so I'm satisfied. There will always be haters or frustration or drama. It's the internet! ;p
Kediil said:
I did go through, and I did see that one, but I had no idea what it was. The name of the thread didn't make it obvious to me, who knew absolutely nothing, that it was a guide. I didn't know what rooting was, or if I needed to do it, or how (for all there's a guide within the rooting thread). I didn't know what CWM was. I didn't know what a kernal actually was, or how to 'flash' it.
Looking at the guide you linked, if you know more or less what you're doing, then it could prove helpful, if a bit blunt. But coming at it from the perspective of knowing absolutely nothing, it didn't help me in the least.
I know it can be difficult to know something and have to deal with people who know nothing, but if there's no sure-fire, solid way for the new person to learn without needing a knowledgeable person to help, then you'll just continue to be needlessly frustrated.
@ merman123 Thank you very much for the support. ^..^ It's already helped at least one person, so I'm satisfied. There will always be haters or frustration or drama. It's the internet! ;p
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Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.
Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
xmeatizmurderx said:
Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.
Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
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I came across XDA by typing 'sidekick 4g lag fix' into google, obviously because I was experiencing lag and was hoping for a fix. One of XDA's threads was the first thing listed and people here seemed to know what they were doing and talking about here. I did spend quite a lot of time searching. I would gladly take full fault for posting something unneeded if anyone would but show me a link to a full, step by step, easy to follow guide. *shrugs* I'll eat my words if there is one.
I need help
So I'm trying to run a custom rom on my new SK4g but no matter what I do, I keep softbricking it... just gets stuck on the sidekick logo during boot. I've followed this guide STEP BY STEP a few times and with different roms, same result. After the rom install is complete I confirm the mounts are correct and then reboot to system but it never gets to system. I end up having to start over from stock via ODIN
HELP HELP HELP... what am I doing wrong. The only POSSIBLE thing I can think of is when it comes time to overwrite the recovery binary, I use adb shell and mount the system with:
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# mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p25 /system
then I copy the file with:
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# cp -f /mnt/sdcard/recovery /system/bin/
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# reboot recovery
please someone help me and tell me what im doing wrong
not too sure what's wrong, but if you are flashing ROMs, you probably are getting into ClockworkMod properly. are you checking your mounts BEFORE you install the ROM as well as after?
xmeatizmurderx said:
Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.
Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
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Wow, your a real ass. I think this guide is probably the best one here. Very clean and very thorough. Its not people like him that cause developers to leave. Its people like you with no respect and a big attitude. And a HUGE head!!
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Thanks so much for this post
Thanks for explaining in layman's terms how to do this. It is very helpful for me and I too had trouble making sense of the other how-to posts. With something as sensitive as flashing hardware it is really important for a novice to clearly understand the steps. I for one really appreciate and applaud your efforts Kediil and Yogi2010!
I'm glad that this has helped some people! I know for those that have been around here a while, it is basically the same thing we already know, but I do think this guide was very clearly written, and is helpful to those who are completely new to this and don't have any idea where to start, and just want to get their phones rooted and modded. kudos to kediil for the great write-up!
I get mad everytime i try to do this because whenever i try to reinstall the packages it just says failed to verify whole signature or whatever then it aborts it , help me please , im tired of this **** ass stock rom
JayNycWepa said:
I get mad everytime i try to do this because whenever i try to reinstall the packages it just says failed to verify whole signature or whatever then it aborts it , help me please , im tired of this **** ass stock rom
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It sounds like the modified recovery didn't get properly moved into system/bin. Have you followed the steps and pasted the recovery file you downloaded into system/bin, replacing the recovery file that was already there?
Kediil said:
I came across XDA by typing 'sidekick 4g lag fix' into google, obviously because I was experiencing lag and was hoping for a fix. One of XDA's threads was the first thing listed and people here seemed to know what they were doing and talking about here. I did spend quite a lot of time searching. I would gladly take full fault for posting something unneeded if anyone would but show me a link to a full, step by step, easy to follow guide. *shrugs* I'll eat my words if there is one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206991
Like I said, SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
It took me all of 10 seconds to find this, it's on the second page of the development section and there are only 4 pages. It took you far longer to type this up than it would have to search.
The reason we don't have stickies is because moderators don't pay attention to us because we have no developers anymore (this is about to change though one of our members was recently sent an invite)
If this were any other phone this overposting wouldn't be tolerated, you guys treat the forums like it's facebook and would rather start a thread than take the time to search for your answer, and it clutters everything up with useless threads. When I joined XDA and had a G1 I didn't post anything for like 2 years because I was able to find the answers by searching.
I am an asshole, so get used to it but I mean you no harm. I am trying to give advice because I have been on here since day one and personally seen devs leave out of irritation with the members lack of forum etiquette. If we can all try and keep the forums clean then we have a better chance of getting support, and this will also help you guys in the future when you move onto more popular devices. If you think I'm a **** you have no idea what some of the senior members can be like lol
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Wow, your a real ass. I think this guide is probably the best one here. Very clean and very thorough. Its not people like him that cause developers to leave. Its people like you with no respect and a big attitude. And a HUGE head!!
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That's what she said
Alright I'm done trolling now
xmeatizmurderx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206991
Eat 'em up bro
Like I said, SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
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Um, you posted a link to a FAQ, not a step by step guide...
xmeatizmurderx said:
Alright I'm done trolling now
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Quit trolling, noone is impressed. Unlike you, Kediil is actually adding to this forum.
vitriolix said:
Um, you posted a link to a FAQ, not a step by step guide...
Quit trolling, noone is impressed. Unlike you, Kediil is actually adding to this forum.
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faq, guide, whatever
I have posted several links that tell you in plain terms how to root and put roms on from stock. If people find this one easier to read for some reason then good for them, I don't have the power to moderate the forums
My point has been made, I don't know why you are responding to me if you don't like what I have to say
P.S.
I have sent in a request to have this thread stickied for you guys