Hi,
Since with Android you have a choice for your calls to go thru Google Voice (totally - only international or not at all) I was wondering how it works with AT&T.
If you call another AT&T cell phone it doesn't count in your minutes plan but what if you go trhu Google Voice? Is that consider like a landline to a cell phone? Or AT&T "sees" that you are using a AT&T cell and count the time has cell to cell ?
I hope I was clear in my explanation
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
mymansionisabox said:
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
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I am not sure that is correct, because when you place a google voice call, gv is actually calling you and then calling the other party and joining the calls. So for international you have a incoming local call and you get to pay GV low rates. I have a PBX at home that uses free incoming minutes and therefore with GV free unlimited calling.
Since we have android the callback is in the background, unless you have the update that allows you to call a GV number with a access code assigned to each contact so you don't have to wait for the callback and have a much faster connection.
just checked my usage... bad news...
making calls through GV counts against your minutes... each of my GV calls is going to a GV number and then going to the party i called (even though they're on AT&T as well)...
so, if you're calling an AT&T subscriber, just use your normal dialer... if you're calling any other carrier subscribers (or landlines) use either, depending on what number you want shown on potential caller ID's
just place the call through the GV web app then.
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
I have a Sprint data card that I use Skype with. A one and a half hour call through Skype only uses 25MB. Sprint is not able to "see" that I am using VoIP because Skype encrypts the data. This way I make somewhat free calls and its real cheap considering the data from my alloted 5gb. I am anxiously waiting for Skype to start working on ATT Smartphones. I did wonder how GV would work but I'd prefer Skype and use my Skypeout number.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
kyphur said:
Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
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Thanks for the press 4 trick.. i had no idea.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Yeah that is the best way to do it if you want to do a regular voice call. I didn't know ATT had the fav option!
Also what I do is use freepbx at home in a VM with a GV setup so I can make free VOIP calls to anyone in the US. I have voip phone at home and voip software on my phone. I still use GV for voicemail.
In this case i use SIPDROID.
AT&T added a fav option for higher dollar plans. I am not sure what they call it, but they did it keep up with VZW and TMo
at&t's version is called A-List. IIRC, you need to be on a $60 monthly or higher plan. You get to list 10 numbers on your account (not per line) and all in/out calls to those 10 numbers are treated as m2m...
I visit the US regularly and always pop my trusty TMO SIM into my current phone and take advantage of the data plan to make SIP calls and get over the 100 minutes limit.
I might use one of Vonage, Google Voice Callback (with a Callcentric SIP account as the callback number) Localphone or GrooveIP.
This worked fine on my last trip in August last year on my GN.
This time I found I could not make any SIP calls over the 3G network (no LTE because my phone is the international version of the N5). Calls would be placed only to be greeted with silence and GV callback would never call me back. The only method that worked was GrooveIP but apparently that's going to stop soon because of the way Google manages some API with Google Voice.
All the processes worked fine over WiFi.
Just to check I tried my daughter's N4 on the same plan and she could make all those calls without any problem.
I see TMO has blocked tethering on the N5 which can be overcome through Root and modifying some file but does anybody know if TMO has also blocked SIP calls on the N5 also?
Might have to take my GN with me next time as my US phone and keep the N5 with the home SIM card in it.
Thanks
lchiu7 said:
I visit the US regularly and always pop my trusty TMO SIM into my current phone and take advantage of the data plan to make SIP calls and get over the 100 minutes limit.
I might use one of Vonage, Google Voice Callback (with a Callcentric SIP account as the callback number) Localphone or GrooveIP.
This worked fine on my last trip in August last year on my GN.
This time I found I could not make any SIP calls over the 3G network (no LTE because my phone is the international version of the N5). Calls would be placed only to be greeted with silence and GV callback would never call me back. The only method that worked was GrooveIP but apparently that's going to stop soon because of the way Google manages some API with Google Voice.
All the processes worked fine over WiFi.
Just to check I tried my daughter's N4 on the same plan and she could make all those calls without any problem.
I see TMO has blocked tethering on the N5 which can be overcome through Root and modifying some file but does anybody know if TMO has also blocked SIP calls on the N5 also?
Might have to take my GN with me next time as my US phone and keep the N5 with the home SIM card in it.
Thanks
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tmobile didnt block tethering on the n5, i tether my other devices and tablet to it frequently. but tethering is a paid service with tmobile(free unlimited on all plans except the completely unlimited high speed data plan, 2.5gb of tethering comes with that plan). but tmobile wifi calling does not work on the n5.
ok, so im getting the 100 minute, unlimited data 30$ tmobile plan on my sprint nexus 5 cause sprint totally sucks.
i have a google voice number and i was just wondering, now that hangouts has calling integrated, can i just use google voice number to make and receive calls over data?
im reading conflicting things, like some people want call forwarding from tmobile (im thinking they want their cell number forwarded to google voice) which 1)isnt an option and 2) not really needed since people will be calling my seperate google voice number
also reading that tmobile blocks google voice on their prepaid plans for some folks
is anyone using the 30 month 100 minute unlimited tmobile data plan and making and receiving calls using a seperate google voice number?
It's working for me. Just make sure you check the option in hangouts settings to receive calls on the device, as well. Now trying to forward phone calls made to my T-Mobile number to my GV Voice Mail doesn't work since it's prepaid. At least, last time I tried it didn't.
As long as you have good service it works fine. Tried it over edge and kept falling to place calls. Where as edge works fine to place calls over normal cell network not using data.
Google confirmed calls to and from your Google voice number that you answer through the hangouts app are 100% data usage.
For any of you who have merged hangouts with Google Voice, is sending SMS *incredibly* slow?
Even when the keyboard doesn't freeze, a fast text message takes about 5-10 seconds to send.
App loading and navigation is also laggy. I wonder if it has to do with the mmssms database merged and having to load it.
First, you sure can just use Google Voice number to make and receive calls over data. In fact, Hangouts only use data, not voice/talk minute at all.
Second, prepaid mobile phone plans do not have conditional forwarding which is required to forward incoming calls to mobile DID (Direct Inward Dialing -- telephone number) to Google Voice DID. Therefore, you are correct. It is not an option. Moreover, you are also correct as to there is no such need to forward calls from mobile DID to Google Voice DID due to people will be using separate Google Voice DID. I would suggest you port Sprint mobile DID to Ring.to and have Ring.to forward all incoming calls and texts to your Google Voice DID. Consequently, people have been using your current Sprint mobile DID will continue be able to contact you without changing your DID. You just get a new DID from T-Mobile when you sign up for $30 prepaid plan for 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and data with first 5 GB up to LTE speeds.
Third, I am using $30 prepaid plan for 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and data with first 5 GB up to LTE speeds and using Hangouts for outgoing calls. It just work flawlessly! I use Voxox for incoming calls and do not use mobile DID came with T-Mobile $30 plan at all.
Am a small business owner and need to be able to access incoming and outgoing texts while on a cruise.on at&t.
WhatsApp seems to require the other party to be signed up which is not always the case. Is there another way around this besides buying the high-priced cellular plan? For example can I forward my phone to Google Voice and receive messages this way over WiFi?
I have purchased eSIM data plan with DENT eSIM because my carrier does not have option to use on my galaxy watch.
Now I get all notification etc on my watch normally but calls are not forwarded... Is there any way to achieve this?
Thank you
Configure just normal call forwarding from your main phone number to the secondary. And you should have calls enabled on your eSim, not only internet.
Well I only have data plan on my watch so I am looking for solution that calls are forwarded via mobile data. And when I call from the watch the call should be going bia mobile data to the phone which would then make a call.
Thank you any help appreciated
I don't think this is possible at all. Only through Bluetooth, or on highly customized smartphone ROM (like Samsung is using on their phones to achieve such functionality over Wi-Fi). And for sure - no - on any stock ROM.
Bluetooth-WiFi watch versions with non-Samsung phone, Remote Connection also work with WiFi.