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Logmein Remote Control "Ignition for Android"

I've been waiting for this app and am not disappointed. What a great way to remote control your desktop. All you need is this client on your Evo and a free account at logmein.com. Total no brainer setup. The App is in the market as of today. Very cool.

This is by far the most underwhelming product logmein has come up with. I was a beta tester and I can tell you I would recommend waiting on this to mature (or not buy it at all).
This app force closes, has a memory leak, sometimes will randomly log me out of my pc, and my personal favorite - restarts my phone at will.
I have tried it with
- stock rom
- rooted rom
- diff evo
- new sd card (for giggles)
- on wifi
- on 3g
To ask 30 bucks for this is absolutely crazy. It's a pitty really. I would almost think about it if it was reliable.

Yeah, seriously, this is one of the worst product ever and definitely the worst ever from LogMeIn.
Everything that fr0st said + the app doesn't even let you use your finger as the mouse. Rather, you have to drag the screen around to your static mouse position... W.T.F!
The web interface for LogMeIn is WAY better than this app AND it's free. $30? Again, W.T.F are these guys smoking...?

I've been satisfied with PhoneMyPC since I got my first Android device.

This was the reply from logmein.
We did make changes after the beta ended. If you purchase the finished product and are still having issues, you can call in to our support team at 1-800-993-1790 to get assistance with resolving them.
I hope this helps. Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.
Wendy Merrifield | Sr. Support Representative
· ·· LogMeIn, Inc.
www.LogMeIn.com | [email protected]
p. +1-800.993.1790
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Ah, no. Not giving you 30 bucks to call tech support.

I used the beta too and found it difficult to navigate the pc with the static mouse. The 30 dollar price tag is WAY too much for an app in my opinion. Unless it does something amazing.
HTC evo

for those with the technical knowledge and ability, Wyse has a VERY nice RDC/VNC client available. (basically, configure your home pc to accept rdc connections and configure your router to allow the traffic through and viola...direct RDP connection...no logmeinscrewyou needed.)
http://www.wyse.com/products/software/pocketcloud/android/index.asp

fr0st said:
This is by far the most underwhelming product logmein has come up with. I was a beta tester and I can tell you I would recommend waiting on this to mature (or not buy it at all).
This app force closes, has a memory leak, sometimes will randomly log me out of my pc, and my personal favorite - restarts my phone at will.
I have tried it with
- stock rom
- rooted rom
- diff evo
- new sd card (for giggles)
- on wifi
- on 3g
To ask 30 bucks for this is absolutely crazy. It's a pitty really. I would almost think about it if it was reliable.
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All those issues pretty much stink. I've been using it for a couple days pretty hard and have not had a single issue....yet. I'm using a rooted 1.47 and have used it on wifi, 3g and 4g without a problem. The screen movement under the mouse takes a little getting used to but I kind of like it now. I'm new to android and have not tried any of the other remote apps but it sounds like I need may to, to get some perspective. For now it is the only way I can run my company scheduling program on my Evo.

What about a remote control software for mac?
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I haven't had any force closes with lmi for android and I've been using it for over a month. To be able to remote into the more than 100 pcs that I support, from my EVO, is a huge time saver. Worth the money to me.
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Its actually a known issue.
http://community.logmein.com/t5/User-to-User-Support/android-force-close/m-p/40391
I am just saying I would not recommend it. If it works for you thats awesome. I support clients all over the US and logmein would be a great benefit to me. However even when you contact tech support the tell you "its a new app, give it time". So I am waiting for it to improve.
Also. Please provide the rom your using a point of reference. I would like to do some additional testing.

Whooaa 30 bucks for that program? Hmm maybe a penny is what its worth.
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*

Second the request for a Mac option. So far, LogMeIn is the only one i know of that supports Mac, but if there's another way, I'd love to know!

DraginMagik said:
for those with the technical knowledge and ability, Wyse has a VERY nice RDC/VNC client available. (basically, configure your home pc to accept rdc connections and configure your router to allow the traffic through and viola...direct RDP connection...no logmeinscrewyou needed.)
http://www.wyse.com/products/software/pocketcloud/android/index.asp
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Wow! This is awesome! Thanks a bunch. So much better + free.

OK, well Wyse looks very cool and I configured it and all, but just get a Could not connect to server message...

mmm...
i use it to connect to both work and personal systems...in local network and through firewalls...both RDP and VNC...to a few flavors of Windows and one flavor of linux. aside from not being on a 22" wide screen it works quite well.
the only thing i can think of off the top of my head would be this....
on the username line - did you enter it like "mydomain\myaccount" or "MyComputerName\MyAccount" or simply "MyAccount".
also, you may want to try connecting via IP address...to eliminate DNS issues.

Got it all sorted out, thanks. Awesome program. WAY better than LogMeIn. Hopefully their price is reasonable when it leaves beta.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Got it all sorted out, thanks. Awesome program. WAY better than LogMeIn. Hopefully their price is reasonable when it leaves beta.
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Just out of curiosity, what fixed it? It didnt work for me at first, then i set up a desktop password and it worked. My only issue with it is that you log into the computer as another user and cannot use it as to start music and have it played through the home computer.

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Just out of curiosity, what fixed it? It didnt work for me at first, then i set up a desktop password and it worked. My only issue with it is that you log into the computer as another user and cannot use it as to start music and have it played through the home computer.
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The Windows Operating System requires a password be used on accounts that allow a RDC session (just a baseline level of security).
not sure about your last sentence.
- my assumption is that you are remoting into your desktop...double clicking on MediaPlayer...and not hearing anything on your EVO....i would expect that behavior.
- if you wish to stream audio from your home pc then you'll need an application designed to that.
- if you meant that you basically wanted to be able to scare your girlfriend by remoting in and turning on winamp with some deathmetal...you should be able to do that, but i have not tested it.
and yes, i pray they provide pleasant pricing for the product.

I just logged in using 3G instead of WiFi (so off the network) and it worked fine.

Good News for Developers, Bad News for Pirates!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/new-licensing-service-replacing-existing-copy-protection-metho/
Looks like pretty soon the days of people copy and pasting apk's all over the place are coming to an end.
I hope this doesn't make theming harder.. We'll see.
From reading that article,
Seems like airplane mode or a firewall would crush all the hopes and dreams of google and app devs.
It seems that every time we open an app it needs to verify that it's been paid for by contacting a "licensing" server and retrieving a response.
I feel like that could slow down launch times, and being unable to use an app when offline would be like UBISOFT hell all over again.
I really hope google puts a lot of thought into this..

I wonder if this if already being done? Every time I try to play that golf game on my EVO on an airplane while the radios are off I get a FC when it starts. As soon as I an on the ground and turn the radios on the game works fine.
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what if you are in an area with no signal or on a plane or something? you cant open any apps???

This is already in place in a number of apps, one is IP Cam Viewer.
I paid the money for it. I transferred all my files to my wife's Evo 4G, and thought "hell I'll see if it works..." Well it didn't. When I try to open the app, it tells me that I have to purchase it from the marketplace.
I'm all for buying apps when they're good, and I understand single user licensing. Guess I was just hoping I wouldn't have to spend double the money for all the apps I use.

simplyphp said:
This is already in place in a number of apps, one is IP Cam Viewer.
I paid the money for it. I transferred all my files to my wife's Evo 4G, and thought "hell I'll see if it works..." Well it didn't. When I try to open the app, it tells me that I have to purchase it from the marketplace.
I'm all for buying apps when they're good, and I understand single user licensing. Guess I was just hoping I wouldn't have to spend double the money for all the apps I use.
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I've heard of couples sharing the same email as apps get replicated on the two phone

I can confirm that they don't get replicated..
I have two evo's right now under the same email and they're definitely not replicating crap.

cahiatt said:
I wonder if this if already being done? Every time I try to play that golf game on my EVO on an airplane while the radios are off I get a FC when it starts. As soon as I an on the ground and turn the radios on the game works fine.
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Now that's a problem I understand about paying for apps but not working when I'm in a place with no signal. I see a law suit brewing up. I paid for the app I should be able to use the app whenever I want to. Class action law suit coming real soon.
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Crap....
"A limitation of copy protection is that applications using it can be installed only on compatible devices that provide a secure internal storage environment. For example, a copy-protected application cannot be downloaded from Market to a device that provides root access"
...Seriously???
EDIT - the above quote was misrepresented in the place I copied from...research shows it to be misleading. the actual bit of Google's text is posted over on page to of this thread. disregard my indignation in this post...

This is discouraging, because a lot of people like to try the full before they buy it expecting more than what full has to offer, only to be disappointed later.

willwgp said:
This is discouraging, because a lot of people like to try the full before they buy it expecting more than what full has to offer, only to be disappointed later.
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You do get a 24 hour refund option when you buy from the market so I'm not worried about trying before you buy. I do worry about not being able to play something when I'm in the bathroom at work because I don't get a signal there.

well how many ppl do actually piracy apps??? oh my bad forgot that this is Android, for a second i though it was apple!!

Just to clarify a couple of things:
There are 2 ways to use the Licensing - one is Strict - you CAN NOT USE THE APP WITHOUT ACCESS TO MARKETPLACE. Personally, screw that.
Option 2, however, is a non-strict policy. Server managed, where the license is 'cached' to storage. You also can programmatically set how long your app can be used without any license check.
That'd be the way i go

josue85 said:
You do get a 24 hour refund option when you buy from the market so I'm not worried about trying before you buy. I do worry about not being able to play something when I'm in the bathroom at work because I don't get a signal there.
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That'll be up to the developer. I like this approach, as I'd be happy to do say... a 5-7 day turn around on the license check. After 7 days with no data signal, seriously, where the hell are you? LOL
Besides, if you've used a paid app for 7 days, and by that time can't decide if you need it or not - wow.
And of course, as soon as you got signal again, the license check would go through and you can use the app again, no problem.
I'm sure there will be UbiSoft and EA style implementations though - way too damn draconian for my tastes. I don't care to know every single second that someone's using my app. I would just like to know that they haven't 'copied that floppy' as it were LOL
I have no doubts this will be defeated in time, though. All it would really take is mimicking the server license response, which can be extracted from the locally cached license of an actual paid product.
People that pirate software are going to do it, regardless. Don't make the honest people pay the price of draconian DRM.
The best approach I can make as a developer, is give my customers the features they want, in a stable, good performing package, and discourage 'casual' piracy. Beyond that, it's out of the developer's control, and honestly, any more than that usually just pisses off the customer and annoys the pirates for about a day and a half.

Ok...had to read the SDK paperwork as I really wanted to know this...my previous post was incorrect and here is the update...
From Google:
Android Market Licensing is a flexible, secure mechanism for controlling access to your applications. It effectively replaces the copy-protection mechanism offered on Android Market and gives you wider distribution potential for your applications.
A limitation of the legacy copy-protection mechanism on Android Market is that applications using it can be installed only on compatible devices that provide a secure internal storage environment. For example, an application using the copy-protection mechanism cannot be downloaded from Market to a device that provides root access, and the application cannot be installed to a device's SD card.
With Android Market licensing, you can move to a license-based model in which access is not bound to the characteristics of the host device, but to your publisher account on Android Market and the licensing policy that you define. Your application can be installed and controlled on any compatible device on any storage, including SD card.
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Also...there are options for the Devs to allow for apps to be used a chosen number of times before they need to check in for licenses. Strict has to check in every time....other option allows dev to choose based on times used or time since last check in.
SO...all in all I am much less worried about this now.

topdnbass said:
I can confirm that they don't get replicated..
I have two evo's right now under the same email and they're definitely not replicating crap.
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With licensing the dev can choose whether an app can be accessed from different phones. It is an option...
(greeked...multiple times)

Question: Does that mean we won't be able to open, modify, and resign apks? Like...to change the appearance (make a widget clear, etc).

More like bad news for paying consumers. That's who always pays for everything. Those of us who actually buy the products.
I plan on speaking with my wallet. I wont buy any app that requires I have an internet connection.

A limitation of the legacy copy-protection mechanism on Android Market is that applications using it can be installed only on compatible devices that provide a secure internal storage environment. For example, an application using the copy-protection mechanism cannot be downloaded from Market to a device that provides root access, and the application cannot be installed to a device's SD card.
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Wait so according to google us rooted folk couldn't download copy-protected apps before now?
Urrr, i think im missing something

This is actually a nice implementation for both the software developer and the user. Most will implement this where it only has to check-in every week or two. So the odds of getting caught in a spot where there is no connection is low.
At the end of the day, it is a pretty straightforward way to handle copy protection that really shouldn't inconvenience anyone.
Also it will bring more developers to the platform if they know they don't have to worry as much about piracy.

Piracy will still run rampant. People will find ways to circumvent this, that's just how it is. At least it will curb some piracy since copying and pasting an apk file wasn't much of a deterrent.

[APP] UPnP Media Server for Android - Works with PS3!

Hey all, i found this cool little app last night so i thought i better share it with you all.
Its called ShareMe Free (although there is a paid version also) and its on the market.
It sets up a UPnP/DLNA client on your phone and can stream to other devices via wireless So damn easy to setup, and it just works.
ShareMe Free is limited to 5 files only, so only really good for testing purposes, but the full version has no limitations.
I connected to my wireless, started the ShareMe server on my phone and it just popped up on my PS3. I was able to stream an episode of Family Guy straight from my phones SD card.
And btw, it works on 2.2 AOSP also
Hopefully this helps someone out

And as it is a free app, i might as well attach it here.

Thanks for sharing!

Also, keep your eye on "Remote Media!". It also claims to do the same thing.
Edit: I guess there are a few in the market that do the same thing now that I look more closely.

sparkdroid said:
Also, keep your eye on "Remote Media!". It also claims to do the same thing.
Edit: I guess there are a few in the market that do the same thing now that I look more closely.
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ahh cool, i have not seen that one. Ive been playing with Twonky client now, seems to work ok - able to long press on media in mediascape and send to mediaplayer is a handy function

iCloud = Free?

OK so Jobs just announced that iCloud is free for nonripped music, any ideas on the price of Google Music? I would imagine they won't price themselves out of the game.

Google Music is free while in Beta. Beta for Google is what, two years? So, you won't have to worry about it until then.

yes icloud is basically free if you don't count giving your soul and mind to the all knowing and almighty steve job's bwaaaahaaa. dang i think i just felt i chill run down my spine.

You also only get 5GB of space...

I don't see Google charging for Google music. They already make tons of money off of us from ad revenue.

I just got my Google Music invite today. I have to admit, its pretty awesome. App works great too.

antoniouslj said:
You also only get 5GB of space...
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Music doesn't count against that 5 GB. That part of iCloud is more comparable to Dropbox, minus the multi-platform aspect and the nice web interface. The iTunes side is more like a hybrid of Amazon Cloud Drive, where music you buy from them doesn't count against your cap, and Google Music Beta, in that the music you don't buy from them is measured in the number of songs. It is nice not having to upload, but realistically it's one or two days and then I don't have to worry about it again (Music Beta will do 'watch folders'). I'll take being able to stream the music over having to download it to each device (i.e. upload once, never download vs. never upload, download to every new device). It also saves me having to have enough space available on my phone. If for some reason I'm bandwidth averse, desktop music syncing has always been dead simple, and I'll still keep a local copy on a hard drive no matter what.

lbingham said:
I just got my Google Music invite today. I have to admit, its pretty awesome. App works great too.
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do you get invites to send out when you get into gmusic beta? im trying soi hard to get in! dannnnnngit!

this is a android forum.... who cares about apple and their copy cat storage cloud
icloud = fail

It's going to cost 25 dollars a year
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Isn't Gmail still in beta? Isn't all of Google's apps still in beta? lol
I dunno. My thing of iCloud = exchange aka Google sync.
One thing I hate about my iPad2 (sue me) is that it relies on a freakin' PC to do ANYTHING. Why would a "PC" need another PC? My Netbook doesn't require a PC for first boot. My phone doesn't need another PC to boot.
I think iCloud is going to be what Google already does to us... lets user sync their devices to a "virtual PC" on the internet.... backs up your contacts, music, wallpapers, keeps a record of apps to redownload, etc.
I was watching a special about it today on TV where they were broadcasting the event and airing clips.
The whole time I kept thinking iCloud = Apple playing catch up.

Suprah said:
this is a android forum.... who cares about apple and their copy cat storage cloud
icloud = fail
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If you read the question you would know it wasn't about icloud. The OP was asking if anyone knew whether Google Music would be free, and speculating that since icloud was free, Google Music might be as well (to remain competitive). Icloud was simply juxtaposed against Google Music...for the purpose of that speculation. I personally think a question about Google Music in an Android forum is right on target.
And apparently there are quite a few people who care about this issue judging from the 250+ views just three hours after thread was posted.
I apologize if you read the OP and truly didn't understand what was going on. If on the other hand, you didn't read the question and just blindly commented...or were just posting a negative comment simply for the sake of posting a negative comment...then not so much.

Amnesty for Pirates?
Check out this article. It appears that the $25/yr product allows you to upload your music.. it then finds those songs on the cloud in HQ and gives you those as a replacement. Basically, the music you uploaded is removed and you have replacement songs by Apple from the cloud..
Interesting indeed - http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/

schmit said:
Check out this article. It appears that the $25/yr product allows you to upload your music.. it then finds those songs on the cloud in HQ and gives you those as a replacement. Basically, the music you uploaded is removed and you have replacement songs by Apple from the cloud..
Interesting indeed - http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/
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Apple has commoditized music piracy.

Apps other than Entertainment on the Nexus Player

As the title states, do you guys think it is wise to develop an application for the Nexus Player if Google isn't going to allow apps other than games and entertainment (no truth behind the statement, just looking at the play store as it stands)? I have a couple of apps that I have been currently working on and I believe they would work well with the player in the home. Just a thought, have any insightful ideas of what you may want the Player to do?

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As the title states, do you guys think it is wise to develop an application for the Nexus Player if Google isn't going to allow apps other than games and entertainment (no truth behind the statement, just looking at the play store as it stands)? I have a couple of apps that I have been currently working on and I believe they would work well with the player in the home. Just a thought, have any insightful ideas of what you may want the Player to do?
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Great thing about android compared to most other systems, you can basically do what you want. I definitely see a lot of useful non-entertainment apps on a system such as this. The Xbox-Playstation interfaces give some good ideas about integrating social media into the living-room, but well beyond that as well. Cooking apps, Do-it-yourself apps, Kahn acadamy, World Science U, etc, etc. The system is ripe for growth in the app department.

Elrondolio said:
Great thing about android compared to most other systems, you can basically do what you want. I definitely see a lot of useful non-entertainment apps on a system such as this. The Xbox-Playstation interfaces give some good ideas about integrating social media into the living-room, but well beyond that as well. Cooking apps, Do-it-yourself apps, Kahn acadamy, World Science U, etc, etc. The system is ripe for growth in the app department.
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I agree, I guess only time will tell when the "Play Store with Nexus Player" updates to more than limited selections that we currently at the moment.

N!TROO said:
I agree, I guess only time will tell when the "Play Store with Nexus Player" updates to more than limited selections that we currently at the moment.
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I'd assume they'll expand the leanback interface as time moves on. But, again, a great strength of android on the tv is you don't have to stick to what Google gives you. I have no doubt other launchers will be adapted or created in short order, from Nova, etc. It'll be interesting to see how Google handles the visibility of alternative launchers considering how tight they've integrated search in the existing leanback and, I assume, want to preserve that built-in advantage. Unlike other systems like the Roku, AppleTV or even FireTV, however, being based on android means the end user will always have other relatively easily installed choices.

Elrondolio said:
I'd assume they'll expand the leanback interface as time moves on. But, again, a great strength of android on the tv is you don't have to stick to what Google gives you. I have no doubt other launchers will be adapted or created in short order, from Nova, etc. It'll be interesting to see how Google handles the visibility of alternative launchers considering how tight they've integrated search in the existing leanback and, I assume, want to preserve that built-in advantage. Unlike other systems like the Roku, AppleTV or even FireTV, however, being based on android means the end user will always have other relatively easily installed choices.
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Yea I figure they are going to keep this environment very closed and tight knit for some time. I read somewhere, where they are individually reviewing each app as it has to meet a certain criteria. This is good for a couple of reasons, I hated how Google TV apps work so poorly or never worked at all. Also, this will allow the users to add an app to their "custom" environment like a nova launcher. Only time will tell. Enjoyed this convo, look forward to hanging out with this community.

hulu plus app
Can anybody grab hulu plus app apk file and send link over here, so that non US users can install that.
Thanks

bobbyd-nexus said:
Can anybody grab hulu plus app apk file and send link over here, so that non US users can install that.
Thanks
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You can find the latest apk's for most of the more well known publishers from apkmirror.com. For Hulu in particular:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hulu/
There are other apk downloading services you can find through google for a wider variety of apks as well.
Good luck.

Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (or wired over OTG) and google docs or some other cloudbased office. I don't see why not use it like a miniPC.
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reverenddak said:
Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (or wired over OTG) and google docs or some other cloudbased office. I don't see why not use it like a miniPC.
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To be honest, I feel like if its done right, the possibility is honestly there.

I think if you're using it primarily as an entertainment device, you might not want business apps or document apps on there; for example, I don't mind that anyone in the house can pick up the remote and watch Netflix or listen to my Google Play Music, but it's probably for the best there's not a Facebook or Gmail app on it.
However, if you intended to use it just as a mini PC, you'd want those.