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i will try to help as much as i am learning day by day as well and i encourage new members to search and read before and take a proactive approach in solving problems n such and learn day by day

Damnit! Some of us like flaming people
Good idea though, and I hope to be able to help...

yep, great idea, but will they ignore it, just like they ignore the rule called search?

rorydaredkign said:
yep, great idea, but will they ignore it, just like they ignore the rule called search?
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Probably! But we can hope someone notices this thread! (I mean the noobs, not just the senior members offering support)

OK, I'll give it a try then!
I'm looking for a program that intercepts incoming calls, just like S2U2 does, then displays the name, phone number and picture and has two large buttons accept or decline the call. I don't like the HTC dailer, it doesn't work for me..
I now use S2U2, but I don't need the sliding/locking part. Any suggestions?

brambk said:
OK, I'll give it a try then!
I'm looking for a program that intercepts incoming calls, just like S2U2 does, then displays the name, phone number and picture and has two large buttons accept or decline the call. I don't like the HTC dailer, it doesn't work for me..
I now use S2U2, but I don't need the sliding/locking part. Any suggestions?
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Are you only looking for apps or would skins do aswell?

oseven said:
Are you only looking for apps or would skins do aswell?
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If a skin could fix it, that's ok too.
I found a picture of what it is I'm looking for:
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This is a great idea! I think the Mods should step in and make this one sticky. Then for every noobish thread, move them to the end of this thread to keep the forum clean.
Noobies may not immediately realize this is where they should ask questions, but Mods can help. Or change the rule a bit to someone has to make at least 10 posts or so before they can start add new topics?

brambk said:
OK, I'll give it a try then!
I'm looking for a program that intercepts incoming calls, just like S2U2 does, then displays the name, phone number and picture and has two large buttons accept or decline the call. I don't like the HTC dailer, it doesn't work for me..
I now use S2U2, but I don't need the sliding/locking part. Any suggestions?
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You should be able to turn off the sliding lock in S2U2 settings. In other words, turn off "Lock when device wakes up" and "Lock when backlight turns off."

brambk said:
If a skin could fix it, that's ok too.
I found a picture of what it is I'm looking for:
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In the S2U2 setting you can enable or disable one feature called: "Slide to asnwer"..
if you disable it it will work just as these 2 screens (these screens are from s2u2).. else it will work using the slide feature...
all good?
=D

mienh said:
You should be able to turn off the sliding lock in S2U2 settings. In other words, turn off "Lock when device wakes up" and "Lock when backlight turns off."
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ogabriel said:
In the S2U2 setting you can enable or disable one feature called: "Slide to asnwer"..
if you disable it it will work just as these 2 screens (these screens are from s2u2).. else it will work using the slide feature...
all good?
=D
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Thanks for both tips, I'll give it a try!

Very simple Profile Manager
I'm looking for a very simple profile manager (Nokia like), I need only to switch from "normal" to "meeting" or another or two custom profiles, then I need the possibility to choose for how many time, then, after this time, automatically switch back to normal.
I dont need to switch wifi or bluetooth on and off, only the possibility to change ring volume and/or switch vibration on and off.
Thanks, Andrea

WELL DONE...
Finally a great idea....
Why doesn't a mod stick this thread??
I mean... Not here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397610 but in the first page of "Development and Hacking" section.
Because surely noobs don't read the sticky rollup thread....

Excellent Idea
I plan to put this in my signature for sure. I may come here as well if I have a question, answer/resolution, or after thought. It's an excellent way many to give back to the community as well.

robosiris said:
I plan to put this in my signature for sure. I may come here as well if I have a question, answer/resolution, or after thought. It's an excellent way many to give back to the community as well.
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An other great idea!
Just done.....

Noted
l3v5y said:
Probably! But we can hope someone notices this thread! (I mean the noobs, not just the senior members offering support)
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One Noob reporting for dutey sir

Let me try as well
I have been looking for a Calendar similar to iPhone. I am not an iphone fan. But I like the calendar, I mean their agenda view. I would like to have software which shows agenda view for a year or so. I am using today agenda which is good one but that shows only 30 days max. Dont ask me to try agenda fusion and the other huge applications I have tried them too heavy and complicated. I dont use most of thei funtionalities. What I am looking for is a simple program which can show agenda view for a year or may be more
THanks
jug

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Reply to jugulator:
In my opinion , I would def recomend Thumbcal. Type it in on google search, it is on here somewhere. Thats by far the most iPhone like calendar I've used, pluse it's pretty, it's functional, and No bugs, that I've noticed.
Also, I would really like to thank the noobys that have actually used this thread. That has saved four unneccisary threads from getting started already, and look how fast your questions got answered. If you would have made a new thread, then you would have just got flamed. I really hope more ppl support this thread, and the mods stick it. More noobs would see it, and therefore use it. Once they see how quick the replys are, then why wouldn't they. But thanks for the support, and I hope you keep it up, and get others involved. This is my cotribution to help clean up. Also , I'm going to start something new.
For every question that gets posted, and then gets answered, I will personally PM the person who asked , to let them know that its answered. I will check the site every night, and morning, and for sure do this. I hope this helps provoke more use. Thanks guys.

[Unsupported - Version 2 is Out] NotATreoFan's V1 Final ROM

NotATreoFan's V1 Final​Clean ROM based on AT&T's 3.57.502.2 Build​
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I want to thank all the people here on XDA who took the time to flash my ROM several times throughout it's stages of progression, and report any issues found. Without them, this process surely would have taken longer then 6 days to complete. This ROM has been stripped down to it base little by little over the last week. According to my Recycle Bin, 49.1MB of "junk" has been pulled out of the original AT&T WM 6.1 ROM. Full list of removed applications in Post #4.
Please Note:​
This ROM does not include a radio. I am not too partial to the original radio included by AT&T, as are many other people (battery life), so I decided to allow you to choose your own. Please Note: This ROM requires a radio that is compatible with the latest HTC builds. For a list of compatible radios, check out AllTheWay's Ultimate Radio Thread.
In order to achieve optimal performance with this ROM, 99.5% of the files not required for error-free operation have been removed. Immediately upon flashing this ROM, I strongly suggest flashing a Task Manager, such as the one in Post #3 below.
This ROM is UC Compatible. If you are not familiar with UC, check out the UC thread for details. PLEASE NOTE: UC runs automatically upon Initial Customization finishing, so it is normal to see the progress bar restart several times (and turn orange). Your phone will automatically reset after about 1 minute.
Big Thanks Go Out To:​
AllTheWay
Raiisak
Laurentius26
mbudden
futbolkeeper
scotchua
...and everyone else I forgot...​
Helping Support the NATF School of ROM Cooking:​
cushcalc - $10 USD
Knumb - $10 USD
Donations are never required, but always appreciated.​
Please read the entire thread before posting a question.​Posts relating to V1 Final start at Post #255​

Download Links:
NotATreoFan's Official V1 Final ROM (Rapidshare)
Password for RAR file: NATF_Final
Mirrors:
NotATreoFan's Official V1 Final ROM (4Shared) - thanks mbudden!
NotATreoFan's Official V1 Final ROM (Direct) - thanks hjlow

Addons / Extras:​

Applications Removed:​
Adobe Reader
AT&T Mall
AT&T Music
Bluetooth Explorer
Bluetooth FTP
Cingular Video
HTC Home
HTC X-Button
HTC Zip
Java
MobiTV
Music Today Plugin
PTT (Push-To-Talk)
RealPlayer
Remote Desktop
SIM Manager
Task Manager
Transcriber
Voice Recorder
Wireless Modem
XM Radio

Shadow7789 said:
Nice work, but from the look of the screen shots, there is still a bit of bloat there. Your default background and color scheme seem to indicate that.
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Well your statement seems to indicate your kind of an idiot? Am I rash to jump to such a conclusion? Why would you post this? If you look at the picture you'll see that there is 148MB of free program space. I'm pretty sure that's now a lot of "bloat". If you think you can do better, then cook your own rom, otherwise keep comments like that to yourself.
@NotATreoFan
Thanks for this release, i appreciate your time take to strip this rom clean for us.

Wow another fine contribution to the community. Thank you for sharing.
Shadow7789 said:
Nice work, but from the look of the screen shots, there is still a bit of bloat there. Your default background and color scheme seem to indicate that.
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Please think before you open your mouth. If you think the background and color make a the ROM bloat you need to do a little more research.

Shadow7789 said:
Nice work, but from the look of the screen shots, there is still a bit of bloat there. Your default background and color scheme seem to indicate that.
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The idea behind this ROM is for it to have the look and feel of AT&T's ROM, but without TeleNav and all that other crap they install and slow down the phone. I intentionally left the AT&T blue theme in the ROM because their dialer is blue, and it looks goofy against the WM default green theme.
I'm aware that there is still some bloat in the ROM, as I stated above. I will be working to clean it up more in the coming days. In the meantime, if someone wants an OEM-looking ROM that is pretty damn quick out of the box without any tweaking, this is for them.
I also state above that I will be releasing more cooked ROMs based on this one, but they will include additional applications and tweaks to color scheme and performance.

I'll be waiting for the newer ROM with tweaks and additional applications.
But for now, looks good to have a clean, fresh ROM from AT&T without crap

Thanks. I will be downloading and trying it this weekend. I have been less than satisfied with the ATT ROM and before I make the jump back to 6.0 I had hoped to get a stripped ROM to play with.
I appreciate your efforts. By the way, I have been reading for weeks, but have never seen what UC represents. Can someone enlighten me?

NotATreoFan said:
if someone wants an OEM-looking ROM that is pretty damn quick out of the box without any tweaking, this is for them.
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going to flash this to a few of my co-worker's tilts since they don't like flashing every other day like me i'll report back anything they find as i'm sure this rom is best for non-flash junkies.
thanks again for this release, i know it's a pia to take these things out properly.

Hi NotATreoFan
here's problem then I need,AT&T Ship ROM Clean.
You to reconsider because download link:ERROR,please!
Thanks a lot!

NotATreoFan said:
The idea behind this ROM is for it to have the look and feel of AT&T's ROM, but without TeleNav and all that other crap they install and slow down the phone. I intentionally left the AT&T blue theme in the ROM because their dialer is blue, and it looks goofy against the WM default green theme.
I'm aware that there is still some bloat in the ROM, as I stated above. I will be working to clean it up more in the coming days. In the meantime, if someone wants an OEM-looking ROM that is pretty damn quick out of the box without any tweaking, this is for them.
I also state above that I will be releasing more cooked ROMs based on this one, but they will include additional applications and tweaks to color scheme and performance.
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God bless you man for taking the time to do this... You have my support.. And, Big Congratulations... I will flash soon, as I am an avid proponent of OEM, and will post testing and findings.
Thanks again.

scotchua said:
@NotATreoFan
Thanks for this release, i appreciate your time take to strip this rom clean for us.
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You are most welcome. Of course this ROM is so light, that it might have a hard time surviving Alaska .
ourtech said:
By the way, I have been reading for weeks, but have never seen what UC represents. Can someone enlighten me?
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Site search for "UC". First result will explain it all.
ndn715 said:
going to flash this to a few of my co-worker's tilts since they don't like flashing every other day like me i'll report back anything they find as i'm sure this rom is best for non-flash junkies.
thanks again for this release, i know it's a pia to take these things out properly.
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Please do keep us updated.
asfoor said:
God bless you man for taking the time to do this... You have my support.. And, Big Congratulations... I will flash soon, as I am an avid proponent of OEM, and will post testing and findings.
Thanks again.
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Thank you for the kind words.

I guess we just have two different ideas of what no bloat is. I personally believe it is a cosmetically debranded device (more in line with a Kyphyr release) , obviously you see it otherwise. Besides, beyond that, I personally see SIM Manager and CapSure as bloat. If you see it a different way, that's fine.

nhatt said:
Hi NotATreoFan
here's problem then I need,AT&T Ship ROM Clean.
You to reconsider because download link:ERROR,please!
Thanks a lot!
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Downloading fine right now for me...

Excellent FIRST Effort NoTATreoFan !! I look forward to more great things!
BTW which radio are you using currently with this ROM?? Your in my neck of the country and I assume a AT&T customer. Looking for best signal/BT/Battery.
All the Best!

nhatt said:
Hi NotATreoFan
here's problem then I need,AT&T Ship ROM Clean.
You to reconsider because download link:ERROR,please!
Thanks a lot!
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The Rapidshare link is working, since I can see the downloads adding up. If someone wants to mirror this for me, I will add it to post #2.

Thank you so VERY much. This is great. I have been playing with the AT&T ROM and like it, but it does need a lot of cleaning. I'll be downloading this when I get home and install it ASAP. Thank you for all of your work. We ALL thank you.

this is amazing i always liked official roms but the extra bulls is very annoying...great job thanks alot for doing the work most of us would enjoy thanks again

njguy0712 said:
Excellent FIRST Effort NoTATreoFan !! I look forward to more great things!
BTW which radio are you using currently with this ROM?? Your in my neck of the country and I assume a AT&T customer. Looking for best signal/BT/Battery.
All the Best!
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you can tell which rom he is using from the first post its in one of the image...i believe 1.58.27.12

Possible new XDA feature set? Configuration Profiles per phone? (Ex: my T-mob Wing)

In my sigfile below, you can see what I am currently running on my T-Mobile Wing.
The XDA site, for a long time, has been incredible in terms of specific app development, ROMs, etc. But I am now looking for "the next step": Total configuration recommendations: specific recs on which apps to use together with which ROMs on a given device, to achieve a user's most important usability functions and requirements.
I am going to layout the current issues I have been having problems with, mention my priority requirements, and I'm seeking recs on a smart configuration suite that begins with the ROM, includes recs on the overall interface and app launcher, down to specific APP recommendations to best meet my needs.
I think it would be great to eventually create, for all phone models, a series of consumer-end-user "Configuration Profiles", so right now, this is a first request: Help me optimize my T-Mobile Wing for how I want to use it.
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My current configuration:
ROM: OpenTouch 6.5 by ttran001
INTERFACE & APPLICATION LAUNCHER: iFonz 1.1.2 by ssj5trunks
BASIC PHONECALL FUNCTIONS:supbro's iDialer + iContact (via larna)
SOFT KEYBOARD: PCM Keyboard by tene w/ iPhone theme by 2manyphones /
PRIMARY BROWSER: Opera Mini (strengths: Speed, lightweight. Weakness: data input is 2-step process; no copy & paste of web content)
SECONDARY BROWSERS: Opera Mobile (but for some reason the SIP is always overriding my preference, and going back to Windows soft keyboard). Skyfire (great for Youtube; lacks setting your own startpage URL), NetFront (I think their zoom/context scroller is fantastic)
MUSIC PLAYER: A_C's s2p
VIDEO PLAYER: for YouTube videos I use Skyfire Browser; otherwise YouTubePlay by milesmowbray
PHOTO VIEWER/EDITOR/SLIDESHOW A_C's s2v and HTC Album
FILE EXPLORER: Total Commander (has drag & drop!)
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I am having compatibility problems, and I can't seem to troubleshoot the conflict sources. So it's time for a new ROM install, and rebuild my suite of apps. I'm hoping I can get a few recs on ROMS, application launchers, dialers.
USABILITY REQUIREMENTS: I am a power user, but not a techie. I currently have been using iFonz, have liked it a lot. Large target areas for finger navigation is very impt to me, especially when driving. Any of the basic windows soft key areas, scrollbars, OK button, Top-bar icons are not big enough, creating for me constant flow of mistakes and "stalls" in completing just the baseline functions of "Speakerphone On/Off", Hide Keypad/Show keypad etc.
If I had my way I would never have to touch any aspect of the Windows Mobile Interface.. but alas, that is not yet a reality. But getting closer day by day, example: supbro just today released a "green button" app that ties his iDialer app to the windows default dialer. A major breakthrough in usability.
What's Impt to me and Not Impt to me: (for Recommendations' sake):
NOT IMPT: I never run games, don't care. Weather is nice, but not impt. SMS and MMS are lo priority for me, I rarely use them.
MOST IMPT:
1. Basic phone functions, that allow me to take the phone out of my pocket and not end up accidentally ending the call before even getting the phone to my ear. Similarly, not having something accidentally trigger DIALING A FRIEND's NUMBER, or last redial. Big large phone dialpad, with large phone number display, bullet-proof "speakerphone on/off", bullet-proof "SAVE TO CONTACTS" without all the windows mobile backflips of "select Save to Contacts" then do I press "NEW CONTACT" or what? Just terrible usability design. Easy to find REDIAL.
2. Contacts: Contact manager with THUMBNAIL PHOTOS list, jump to alphabet letter, LARGE target area for finger to tap-and-dial in 1-step, not going to a detail screen to select WHICH number, or do I want to send email or SMS.
3. MP3 player: big obvious target area for volume control, and timeline slider, next song, etc. Integration with hard keys for next song, pause, mute. (S2u2 already does this, but there are still some squirrely problems, which create that dreaded problem of wanting to turn it off asap but no, gotta do backflips to get to the interface.)
4. CLOSE ALL APPS: since the Wing has the crappy old processor of its predecessor (MDA), and limited RAM, there are always times when apps lock up, and you just want to close everthing
5. one-click WIFI ON/OFF -- I don't want to go through some cumbersome Communication Manager. When I get home to my network, or I am at a Starbucks and want to use Tmobile Hotspot, it should be a no-brainer: wifi is turned on, all available networks show by default, all in one step. Just as if I take my Macbook Pro to a cafe, click one icon, see all networks. To me it would be even greater if, when I was at a Tmobile Hotspot, 1 click would *turn on wifi, *launch Tmobile's hotspot utility
6. Voice Command, Handwriting SIP, and a bunch of other things.
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I'm hoping someone will take me up on this big-picture request. Thank you

(reserved for photos/ videos of my current configuration)
saving this space to come back and add some photos and videos that demonstrate the problems I want to solve.

You've been a member long enough to know that "Recommend a Rom" threads usually get closed.
You've done a good job listing what exactly you're looking for but still the title is along the lines of a noobie swooping in and asking for the best rom.
Where you do differ is that you've obviously put a lot of thought into what you're looking for but alas the thread title doesnt accurately reflect the depth of your post.
Honestly this sounds like the idea that launched a project. The question is will you step up and coordinate the project?
If so I would recommend you retitle this thread and take the concept to the next step.

kyphur said:
You've been a member long enough to know that "Recommend a Rom" threads usually get closed.
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Hey thanks for replying, kyphur. Honestly, I actually didn't know that... but hold on -- there are 2 reasons why is this. So I will explain, because my intention is not to break rules & protocols -- i have too much respect for this community:
(a) I'm actually not a regular here to see those patterns. I started with an MDA, learned how to use XDA-dev site to try to find answers, went through my initiation of asking dumb questions, getting slapped to "use search, damnit", found my way to understanding the cultuyre and rules.. but even after a year I was too scared to ever try a mod on my MDA. And it wasn't til I got my Wing that I finally jumped in to do the whole shebang -- from hardSPL, to ROM installation, etc. With great help from various members here, like papamopps. And once I get something working, I am not frequenting the site, other than for subscribed threads to Apps that are still in development that I am using -- like for example iContact and iDialer. Because I really rely upon my phone for work, and once it's doing what I need it to do, I generally am not cruising looking for "the next great thing".
I want to add, though, that inasmuch as it may sound as though I am merely a taker and not a giver, the way that I give is by donating to the app developers and ROM chefs whose products I have used. And if you ask A_C and ssj5trunks, for example, my donations are large -- as my best way to compensate back. Also, I volunteer to host websites, and for example A_C hosts part of his new site www.A2-s2.com with me -- and I am happy to be of service that way.
(b) The second reason I didn't explicitly know that was a rule here is because I tend to mostly be in the WING/Herald "silo" -- and there, the user Pureskillz is known for doing thorough Reviews of Roms -- which are amazing -- and I have asked before in threads in that section for recs on which ROM might be fastest for me to use to run iFonz, and I have gotten really helpful replies.
This is all quite different from a newbie parachuting in to say "hey guys, what should I use on my Wing, i want to have an iphone type of phone". So thank you for letting me know - i honestly did not know this was verboten
You've done a good job listing what exactly you're looking for but still the title is along the lines of a noobie swooping in and asking for the best rom.
Where you do differ is that you've obviously put a lot of thought into what you're looking for but alas the thread title doesnt accurately reflect the depth of your post.
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Gotcha. Okay, I will go rename it: How would this sound?
Request: Suggested Apps for configuring my T-Mobile Wing for specific functions
I don't know if that's any better... but
Honestly this sounds like the idea that launched a project. The question is will you step up and coordinate the project?
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Actually, this is exactly part of what I want to do, but on a "clean page" so as to give newbies an easier pathway IN to understanding what is even AVAILABLE to them. But my interest is in mainstream users, not so much in the tricked-out overclocked custom registry code-writing userbase. Because to me, the whole site in its entirety is geared for those users.
So yes, I am wanting to create a website that places a mainstream-friendly "front end" to this amazing knowledge-base. All links would be attributed and linked to the actual XDA threads. But I want to provide capsule summaries that help users understand where they are being sent, and how they should approach a "Release" thread... What they can expect, the protocols for asking for help, etc.
So yes, I have given a lot of thought to what I think, as a Usability and Information Designer, is a huge gap between mainstream phione users who are finding out about XDA for first time -- largely thru YouTube videos which kinda blow their minds -- because its functionality is so beyond what is marketed to them as possible via carriers like (in USA) T-Mobile, AT&T, etc -- and the ability to comprehend this site -- which is gargantuan in nature, and a maze of complexity for a newbie.
Let me give a very tangible example: I would bet you that probably less than 1% of the users of Windows Mobile in the USA, who are using for example, the T-Mobile Wing, have any idea at all that they can get for free GPS location tracking on their phones, right now, today, just by using Google Maps. It's not ever presented to users. So you have this huge population of people who have a truly awesome function available for their phones right now -- that they have no idea is the case.
I was just discussing this in San Francisco the other day with the Product Development Manager at Google for the Google Maps product line.
So: re stepping up to the plate: one of the parts I have in mind is to help facilitate the assembly of -- the creation of -- these "Configuration Profiles" which would seek to create common function-sets that certain types of users would likely say "YES, THAT ONE, that's matches the kinds of things I am looking for.
So, with that in mind, I wanted to try it out here, and see if this would be something users here would support as being worthwhile, or more of just a pain in the ass. And, the timing is such that I really have had more and more problems having my Wing function effectively, and I know from my own experiences that the selection of a ROM is really quite critical to building the suite of apps & functionality I desire.
If so I would recommend you retitle this thread and take the concept to the next step.
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I am fine with your deleting the thread if it really isn't appropriate for the site. I was looking very carefully for where to post this, and this seemed like the best place. What are your thoughts?
thank you.

@ quicksite
The concept sounds great. I agree with you in that many people want functionality but who dont have the technical knowledge, (or want it initially) but who wish to maximise their devices usefulness. They also may not want to risk damaging something they have just paid £500 for. How many times have i had my friends come upto me and say, how did you do that? can i have it? can you do it for me? haha....
Whilst some may say this is not in the spirit of xda as one should not venture into the depths of winmo without technical knowledge, i believe it adheres to its basic principles and that xda should continue in its evolvement (sorry my spelling is crap today); the more the members the greater the knowledge.
Whilst i only have a Polaris and Prophet, i would be interested in this dev project as it could encompass all devices. It would benefit xda in that noobies who dont or cant get to grasp with the technicalities have somewhere (one place) to "glorify" their device. I think once the new members have blinged their device, their interest and curiousity expands... "mm i wonder what else i can do". THis leads to further reading and learning and such new blood and knowledge can only be of benefit.
Count me in.

@quick site
Sounds like you want to either get into cooking your own rom, or should grab an ultralite rom and install everything you want.
You may want to try task facade for a task manager. everything pops up with a large screenshot and to close apps you just have to long hold them.
You can set task facade to a hardbutton (or if your hardbuttons are all full you can use hbutton which allows you to map several programs to one key)

An introductory video example: to orient a new user
timmymarsh said:
@ quicksite
The concept sounds great. I agree with you in that many people want functionality but who dont have the technical knowledge, (or want it initially) but who wish to maximise their devices usefulness. They also may not want to risk damaging something they have just paid £500 for. How many times have i had my friends come upto me and say, how did you do that? can i have it? can you do it for me? haha....
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Thanks for replying. ... Here's the video I recently added to YouTube just to show in a non-technical way WHAT one could do on their T-Mobile Wing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSc0Qz8tf_c
As I told the Google Maps Mobile product manager, I don't think a tiny fraction of people know about the GPS functioning just via Google Maps usage. This video would not appeal to the vast majority of XDA Members, however, because it is meant to be a soft-introduction to "outsiders", vs an information-packed walk-through or installation guide.
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Whilst some may say this is not in the spirit of xda as one should not venture into the depths of winmo without technical knowledge, i believe it adheres to its basic principles and that xda should continue in its evolvement (sorry my spelling is crap today); the more the members the greater the knowledge.
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My area of professional expertise is usability design, consumer content design, information design. I spent over a year getting the feel of XDA site before I jumped in to try to mod my Wing. I learned the culture, realized there were LOTS of preliminary things which I had no idea about, and had to first assemble a macro knowledge set up: what is Hardl SPL, what is an RUU, what is a radio rom, does a ROM have Windows Mobile OS in it? If so, Is it a legal license? what does "brick my phone" mean? ... I went to the Herald wiki, I saw guides for noobs to read, I read them, but then circular questions like: "Be sure to read XXXXX's great guide to flashing"... So I read this guide, many of them, and they'll say "be sure to make sure whether you have version x or version y; if X, never Hard SPL, if Y, it's okay; then a thread "Hard SPL working on WING!", then more guides how to Hard SPL your phone. Then you're supposed to pick a ROM.
If you ask for advice, you're told "start reading; everyone has different needs". SO you read up, use search, end up on a thread you think applies to ROMS for your phone, only to be 12 pages into the thread before you grasp the concept that this thread and this ROM is only for an HTC Himalaya. ANd it's completely irrelevant to my quest.
But senior people here would say "It's obvious, you were in the wrong area; look at the wiki, it has a list of phones, only search for ROMS for that phone"... but some ROMS are for many phones. Anyone, this is nothing new to those experienced with XDA. And I understand the frustration of senior members who keep posting stickies to help Newbies prep properly and not just dive in to ask "how do I get iphone on by HTC Touch?" etc.
But as can be seen very clearly from THIS SEMINAL THREAD, "Let People Ask Whatever They Like", that there is a culture "war" developing on XDA between those who feel adamantly: this site is for tinkerers, and if you've come just to get "kewl" stuff for your phone, you're in the wrong place. While other senior members are adamantly in the other corner of "why not help people? So what if they ask stupid questions? Just move on, ignore them, you don't need to chastise everyone."
Whilst i only have a Polaris and Prophet, i would be interested in this dev project as it could encompass all devices. It would benefit xda in that noobies who dont or cant get to grasp with the technicalities have somewhere (one place) to "glorify" their device. I think once the new members have blinged their device, their interest and curiousity expands... "mm i wonder what else i can do". THis leads to further reading and learning and such new blood and knowledge can only be of benefit.
Count me in.
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This is nice to hear. The biggest problem with any knowledge base is in formation design. Despite the wiki, despite the sticky threads, despite the SIG LINES with links to Help Guides, despite the warnings, it is my professional opinion that this spectacular knowledge-base called XDA-Developers, is like a big tinker-toy project with new arms constantly being added, and nodes that even everyday users don't even know about, because they are specialized areas for particular phones etc. And now there is a whole new initiative ( A GREAT ONE!) to develop for the Android platform.
To me, creating some landing pages that help orient newcomers without overloading them with a huge maze of a dense site -- helps everyone:
* for sure helps the newbie
* helps the senior members (who will see yet another 100 threads open per day with same old new questions) from having to constantly look at "101" type questions.
* helps the software authors in getting donations for their works by more easily shuttling newcomers to the specific kinds of apps they have been looking for.
I think we are seeing a crossroads right now, with the launch of the Apple Apps store, the Android Apps store, Blackberry's store, and Windows' expected entry (what's it called, Skyapps ?)... Critical mass has now been reached in the marketplace for owners of toucscreen devices to now embrace specialized apps and functions that fit specific needs, and manufacturers and carriers are finally figuring this out. XDA sits is a very unusual place amongst all this, given the open-source spirited "knowledge-share & donate" philosophy of the site. I think there will be longtime veteran members here who will not be happy with influxes of even MORE news trying to get the latest & greatest. I just believe the dam has broken, and it might be good to filter newcomers and orient them (my interest), vs having them flood in and irritate the **** out of the people who built this community...
Sorry for the lenghts of these posts. I'm just wanting to be clear.

joel2009 said:
@quick site
Sounds like you want to either get into cooking your own rom, or should grab an ultralite rom and install everything you want.
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Thanks. Yes, that's what I have done to date. I started with a PapaMopps ROM, then moved to an OpenTouch ROM, and now am trying to consider WHICH ultralite woud work best for my configuration. It's these snags like dialers that confound me. AND which topbar is overriding another -- for exmaple, when iFonz is in use, it overrides the top bar with access to windows start logo, etc.
You may want to try task facade for a task manager. everything pops up with a large screenshot and to close apps you just have to long hold them.
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Thank you for the rec. i will search for Task Facade.
I also just found WkTask from a thread here at XDA -- and tried it out. Now THAT's what I'm looking for... but again, it's the conflcit with apps or interfaces that overlay that top bar so that it is not a constant.
You can set task facade to a hardbutton (or if your hardbuttons are all full you can use hbutton which allows you to map several programs to one key)
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Ahh, I never new until now about Hbutton. That's exactly what I need! I will search for it too. I am guessing it is context sensitive -- and offers a different default action depending on which app is the one in use?
thanks very much.

@ quicksite
Assume you are going to set up your own site for this project or is this something you are going to do on xda? im interested in assisting in this in which ever direction you want this to go, so let me know and i will find some time and buy some more coffee....

I'm not sure quite what you want to achieve, but I think what you want is a less technical (i.e. suitable for normal people) way to access the information here.
This sub forum was brought about because it was decided that new users probably wouldn't have a huge technical knowledge, so it woul be better to let them ask about "what's x" somewhere where people want to help rather than hack. So in a sense, this sub forum goes part way to achieving that.

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I am locking Tutorials to try and keep them clean, Please try to add a page to the wiki or add to another page (all hero tweaks under the page for their specific rom) with what you posted.
If you need a support question answered PM me and I will reopen it.

Rom Devs Read this before posting!
BE Forwarned!
If you are a rom Dev, and you post a rom on this forum, I will be checking the roms for warez.
As a dev, I know how hard it is to put out good quality work, and if your a rom dev you should know as well.
Because of my respect for other devs, whether its roms or apps, and my respect for XDA (Who could be sued for warez being present here), I will check every rom posted.
If I find that your rom contains warez, I will remove the links to your rom and let you know that I have done so. I will ask you to remove the warez before putting up a link to your rom again. At the time that you post the new link to your rom, I will check it again for warez. If I check your rom again and there are warez present I WILL lock the thread and remove your links untill you present me with a clean rom, at which time I will unlock your thread. If I lock your thread and it remains locked for 7 days with no response from you, the dev, I WILL delete the entire thread.
What Constitutes as Warez?
Any application that is a paid for app.
Any Applications listed below:
QuickOffice
Other Mods, feel free to add to this.

woot keep up the good work! and when did you become a mod? )

bbuchacher said:
woot keep up the good work! and when did you become a mod? )
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*Off-Topic* he didn't we just edited his status
*On-Topic*
Links to help you find out if the app you wanna install is a paid app or not:
http://www.cyrket.com/
http://www.androlib.com/
http://www.android.com/market/ Blah of a site

Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4746727&postcount=110
The basic idea, not pointing to Sprint only.

out of curiosity if someone got permission from the dev to redistribute the app would u allow the rom to remain? and what kind of proof would u need to be given?
one more question! is it considered warez if the app on the market is a paid app but the developer has it online on another site for free is it classified as warez if it is used in a rom?

acejoker25000 said:
out of curiosity if someone got permission from the dev to redistribute the app would u allow the rom to remain? and what kind of proof would u need to be given?
one more question! is it considered warez if the app on the market is a paid app but the developer has it online on another site for free is it classified as warez if it is used in a rom?
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I think in this situation, proof would be a copy of an email or something similar.
And I think if an app is available for free from the dev themselves, and also paid on the market, it should be ok but permission prefered. For example the A2SD app when a2sd was new. The app was posted on this forum as free download, and in market at £1, I know devs made their own a2sd scripts, but I think if the app was to be included in a rom, permission would be appreciated
But that's just me, not too sure really

acejoker25000 said:
out of curiosity if someone got permission from the dev to redistribute the app would u allow the rom to remain? and what kind of proof would u need to be given?
one more question! is it considered warez if the app on the market is a paid app but the developer has it online on another site for free is it classified as warez if it is used in a rom?
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If its a paid app in the market, or anywhere for that matter, then it is warez.
You MAY use a devs app in your rom as long as you have permission. However that permission must be verified and it WILL be looked into by me or another mod in order to make sure it is authentic.
In a case like this it would be best for the dev to contact a mod at the forum to let us know this is ok.
Stericson

what about things like setcpu? like I bought it on the market and all, but the dev has a thread on xda here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
yea.
Edit: i saw that you made kingklick remove setcpu from his rom?????

Yes, because he didnt have permission from the owner and the owner actually confronted him about it...

No offense but.....
lmfao..this thread is so hypocritical. I love it! You redefine the word warez to fit your own personal standards, then force said standards on the rest of the users. You would have been a great asset to the Christians during the crusades.
So let's get this right. The things you listed are warez, but TGE, SenseUI, BlurUI, Windows Mobile roms, etc isn't? Please enlighten us on exactly how you reached this conclusion. The way you are handling this makes it seem as if you are being an advocate for only independent devs, and saying f*** the corporations and their devs. Steal from them all you want.
I understand that banning all warez would be restrictive enough to make devs go elsewhere to post, but what good does banning some do? Protect xda from the small time devs who can't afford legal teams anyway? If you really wanted to cover xda's a** you would be banning redistribution of the big boys' software.
Please don't take offense to this. This is meant to have a humorous tone (in other words I'm just BSing around). I don't mean it as a personal attack or anything like that. I have much respect for the people here who help make android better, and understand what you guys are getting at. I just found the obviously flawed nature of your actions way to funny to not point out.

Sounds fair enough =]
It would be awesome if ROM devs create their own apps and have it exclusively on Their roms. It will definantly spruce up the experience

gurnted said:
So let's get this right. The things you listed are warez, but TGE, SenseUI, BlurUI, Windows Mobile roms, etc isn't? Please enlighten us on exactly how you reached this conclusion. The way you are handling this makes it seem as if you are being an advocate for only independent devs, and saying f*** the corporations and their devs. Steal from them all you want.
I understand that banning all warez would be restrictive enough to make devs go elsewhere to post, but what good does banning some do? Protect xda from the small time devs who can't afford legal teams anyway? If you really wanted to cover xda's a** you would be banning redistribution of the big boys' software.
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The whole point here is to keep xda out of trouble. For the most part, Microsoft, HTC, Motorola, etc. don't care that we're tinkering with their stuff. When they do mind, xda has to stop it (like what happened with Cyanogen's C&D). You can't ban all redistribution of "intellectual property" (I hate that phrase, it's stupid to think that knowledge could be someone's property, but that is the current view of the law), or people would leave xda, but you have to ban outright swapping of paid apps, or xda gets in big trouble.
That said... I question the free here/paid on the market apps. There are some apps on the market that are paid, but are open source (in some cases GPL) and can be freely downloaded from the dev's website. In this case, certainly permission would be best, but in the case of the dev not responding, certainly this would be okay? I mean, in this case (open source), it's completely legal to redistribute. Therefore, including it in your rom should absolutely be allowable, yes?
That said, I thought I had read somewhere that betterterminal was free software? Or am I wrong....? I will go look into it.

So that means that all devs must NOT include any of the Google apps, right?
I mean every dev must come up with a way just like Cyanogen did, right?
Afterall, the C&D letter to Cyanogen set a precedence. Everyone is well aware of Google's position.
That makes it far more serious for everyone to comply.

carnegie0107 said:
That said, I thought I had read somewhere that betterterminal was free software? Or am I wrong....? I will go look into it.
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Better terminal has A free Version:
Free Better Terminal 1.3
Gain access to the Linux internals of your Android device with Better Terminal Emulator. Features include enhanced scrolling, paste, selectable font size and color. New version with Soft Keyboard available, see magicandroidapps.com for selection guide. Also try Better Terminal Emulator Pro v1.41 with programmable shortcuts.
Better Terminal Emulator was developed for Android by MagicAndroidApps.com
Package name : com.altair32.betterterm
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Better Terminal has a PAID Version:
Better Terminal Pro 1.55
Unlock the Linux potential of Android with Better Terminal Emulator Pro. www.magicandroidapps.com
v1.5 ASH shell with command history and editing.
v1.52: soft keyboard in full screen/landscape fixed
v1.53: Pipe (|) added, fix for Hero rotate crash, Android 1.6 (Donut) and WVGA support.
v1.55: Fix GC hang issue
Better Terminal Emulator Pro was developed for Android by MagicAndroidApps.com
Package name : com.magicandroidapps.bettertermpro
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The free Version is fine in ROMS, obviously not the paid version

Ok, This is cut and dry. Yall need to quit trying to make this bigger then what it is.
In XDA's eye,
All paid for apps are warez.
Quickoffice is warez.
If the app in question is open source, then its open source and can be used, link that states it is open source would be great to display.
Quit trying to blow this bigger then what it is. We could stand here all day and argue over the "technacalities" of whats legal and whats not. So lets just not waste our time writing long posts to argue something that isnt even worth arguing here, IMO.
Once again, untill further notice, on XDA, in specific regards to content in relation to android, the term warez will reference Paid apps, and quickoffice.
In the future we may add to this, but not at this time.
Stericson

I am the developer of Better Terminal Emulator. Better Terminal Emulator 1.3 was for Android 1.0. It's best to use Better Terminal Emulator Magic v1.5 for Cupcake and later. I recently updated Better Terminal Emulator Pro for the new Android devices coming out, and will be upgrading the free version of Better Terminal Emulator Magic to include all the soft keyboard bugfixes that went into Pro. Essentially "Magic" will have all features of "Pro" except the Enhanced Shell and Virtual DPAD.
Any ROM developers who wish to include Better Terminal Emulator Magic are free to do so.
Also, I made a Wiki to cover Better Terminal Emulator:
http://www.magicandroidapps.com/wiki
My goal is to make Better Terminal Emulator Magic the best FREE Terminal Emulator for Android, and to add some great features to Pro for people who want to be on the cutting edge with the latest improvements. I am also planning to support x86-based Android devices, and have posted Better Terminal Emulator Magic to many app sites, since I know many development devices don't have access to the official Market.
Thanks for your interest in, and support of Better Terminal Emulator.
-Howard

Kudos for protecting the app devs, but...
When did XDA become a soap opera?
For f*%#s sake, people, if a dev says so, then it is so!
If you don't like it, find another forum!
Hell, I don't totally agree with the definition of "warez" they seem to be using, but this isn't MY FORUM, so I don't have ANY REASON TO COMPLAIN WHEN THEY MAKE RULES!
Dammit, just be happy they're leaving stuff alone that they're leaving alone! If you can't live without quickoffice, or stealing paid apps, then FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIND THEM YOURSELF!
Some of you want to argue about the most ridiculous crap! At least you can still download the friggin roms!
STFU already!

[BETA] Quizzer

Hey everyone,
a user from the android-hilfe.de forum mentioned the idea of an app that i found very interesting. I then started implementing stuff and here i want to present you the first usable beta version of the app.
It is a community quiz. You can post quiz questions, other users answer them and place their bid on their answer. At the end you close the question with the correct answer and everyone is rewarded according to their bids.
Please help beta testing that app. Please note that in this very first beta, no work has been done for layout and design. See it as a functional prototype. Although i would be very thankful for design/layout ideas, maybe some even wants to help me?
I'm really looking forward to your feedback
Here is the link to a simple beta page that i hacked together: http://quizzer-android.appspot.com
And of course the corresponding QR code:
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added some screenshots...

FC on clicking questions.
Galaxy S, Darky's 9.5 Froyo

Goddchen said:
I'm really looking forward to your feedback
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good concept for an app, will probably be pretty fun when its finished, but right now the app is extremely unstable, sometimes it just exits right after I opened it, it always force closes when it tries to load the "by date" list in the "list of questions" section. The "by potsize" list usually works though that sometimes crashes too, in addition to all that the app seems to sometimes crash at completely random times.
In running the app on the LG Optimus 2x Phone, running CM7 Nightly build 21.
ps: on the registration part of the app, you only ask for the password once, its pretty common to ask for the password twice to avoid people mistyping the password, this does't really bother me that much but when you are typing on the android virtual keyboard it pretty easy to mistype something and not notice it, before you try to login to your app account.
ps2: If you don't mind me asking, I'm a bit curious about how you store account information, do you store the email & password in plain text? or do you hash & salt them? I'm just curious because I don't like to use services that doesn't protect their user data properly.

There was a FC-bug when displaying a question without any tag. Please reinstall with the new version (same url).

I think once there are a wider range of questions it will be better (I know thatis on us, the users) .
I am also interested in knowing how my information is being stored.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

It takes time for me to make up all the false answers to make funnier quizzes.
It allowed 0 QZR for a bid.
Admob area's size need to be fixed.
Anyway, I will love it when it's all finished.

Goddchen said:
I'm really looking forward to your feedback
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gmail seems to categorize your emails as spam, just thought you would like to know.
oh and btw, not to be rude or anything but it would be nice if you could actually give us some kinda response to the feedback we have given you instead of just completely ignoring it.

Hey everybody,
it has been two busy days for me, unfortunately not two busy Android days... I really thank you for you feedback so far and i am excitingly reading through the notification mails as they arrive. I just didn't have the time to answer or even code on the project.
@mikael, is this really the level you want continue this conversation? I do also have a reallife besides Android, sorry. Did you ever try to get one of your cars throught german TÜV? Then you know what is was doing the past two days...
I'll get back to you guys tomorrow and answer all the questions
Goddchen

Goddchen said:
@mikael, is this really the level you want continue this conversation? I do also have a reallife besides Android, sorry. Did you ever try to get one of your cars throught german TÜV? Then you know what is was doing the past two days...
Goddchen
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sorry, as I said it was not meant as an insult, I do understand that you probably have other non android related stuff to do, It just that when you posted a post after I posted my feedback without responding at all, it seemed like you were intentionally ignoring my feedback, but if thats not he case then sorry I misunderstood you, I'm usually a pretty nice guy so please don't get the wrong idea, I have nothing against you or anything like that.

Ok guys, here we go
Sorry that i weren't able to respond in the past two days, you already know why It was hard to find the time to fix that annoying FC bug when opening the questions list but i thought that was more important at that time then responding here since it renders the app useless.
Ok let's start
FC on clicking questions.
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Should be fixed in the current version
good concept for an app, will probably be pretty fun when its finished, but right now the app is extremely unstable, sometimes it just exits right after I opened it, it always force closes when it tries to load the "by date" list in the "list of questions" section. The "by potsize" list usually works though that sometimes crashes too, in addition to all that the app seems to sometimes crash at completely random times.
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There was an additional bug in the update code for the header of the main screen. Hopefully that is fixed now too and you won't experience those random FCs.
ps: on the registration part of the app, you only ask for the password once, its pretty common to ask for the password twice to avoid people mistyping the password, this does't really bother me that much but when you are typing on the android virtual keyboard it pretty easy to mistype something and not notice it, before you try to login to your app account.
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Good idea, will definitely integrate it
If you don't mind me asking, I'm a bit curious about how you store account information, do you store the email & password in plain text? or do you hash & salt them? I'm just curious because I don't like to use services that doesn't protect their user data properly.
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The password is hashed on your phone so that it never get's transmitted over the network in plain text and i can't see your plaintext password either. The email is stored as plaintext so that i can send you a mail if anything important is going on (like yesterdays mail about that critical bugfix). The backend of the app is hosted on GoogleAppEngine by the way. Feel free to suggest any other strategies on storing or transmitting values. The values that are stored for a user are: your activation token, an active flag, answer count, question count, key of your avatar in the gae blogstore, mail, nickname, pass (hash), and your QZRs.
It allowed 0 QZR for a bid.
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damn, thanks for the note.
Admob area's size need to be fixed.
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What do you mean?
gmail seems to categorize your emails as spam, just thought you would like to know.
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damn, will have a look at this. They arrive just fine in my gmail inbox.
And a question from my side:
I have also implement a function for sending mass in-app notifications (appear on your notification screen in the app). Which way to be informed about critical updates do you prefer? mail or in-app notification. In one of the next versions i will add an optional background service that shows incoming notification on the phone's notification bar, too.
Looking forward to read your responses Goddchen

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Looking forward to read your responses Goddchen
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as for the admob thing I'm guessing what todayist meant was that when the ad placeholder was displayed in the the top of your app it was wider than the app itself which allowed you to scroll within the admob object, but this only seems to happens with the placeholder ad, real ads seems to work as they should.
as for the notification thing I don't mind getting them by email, but there are a lot of people that probably do mind that, so if I were you I'd implement some preference thing that allowed a user to choose between email notifications and in app notifications.
I also have a couple of questions/feature requests:
first of all I think it would be nice it the person that has created a question would be able to actually see what people have answered on the question, that would be useful information to see whether or not the question was to hard or too easy.
in addition I'm wondering how you are going to stop people from screwing around with the questions, because as it is right now, you rely on the people creating questions to actually include and choose the right answer, somebody could easily screw people by simply choosing the wrong answer as the right answer, doing that could probably also be used cheat.
I also think that when a question is closed the users that answered on that question should be able to see what the right answer was, maybe you could even add a "report wrong answer" button that, if enough people pressed it would make a mod check whether the answer was actually correct, and if it wan't the people answering on the question should be refunded the game money that they bet on the question.
I know that would probably be a bit complicated but it would decrease the problem of people cheating by choosing the wrong answer as the right answer.
in addition to all that I have a question, its pretty obvious that acquiring QZRs is pretty important in this game (you even plan to allow people to buy QZRs using paypal and in-app purchase) but my question is, what is the point of the QZRs right now they can only be used to place bets, do you plan on adding some kind of store or reward stuff that can only be bught/unlocked by using QZR?

as for the admob thing I'm guessing what todayist meant was that when the ad placeholder was displayed in the the top of your app it was wider than the app itself which allowed you to scroll within the admob object, but this only seems to happens with the placeholder ad, real ads seems to work as they should.
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strange i have set a max height now so that this shouldn't happen again
as for the notification thing I don't mind getting them by email, but there are a lot of people that probably do mind that, so if I were you I'd implement some preference thing that allowed a user to choose between email notifications and in app notifications.
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In latest dev version a setting has been added to the profile to choose between notification/mail/both
I also have a couple of questions/feature requests:
first of all I think it would be nice it the person that has created a question would be able to actually see what people have answered on the question, that would be useful information to see whether or not the question was to hard or too easy.
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available in beta2 a pie chart with the answers and their counts
in addition I'm wondering how you are going to stop people from screwing around with the questions, because as it is right now, you rely on the people creating questions to actually include and choose the right answer, somebody could easily screw people by simply choosing the wrong answer as the right answer, doing that could probably also be used cheat.
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Good point. But to solve this? Forcing the set the correct answer on question creation? Any other ideas?
I also think that when a question is closed the users that answered on that question should be able to see what the right answer was, maybe you could even add a "report wrong answer" button that, if enough people pressed it would make a mod check whether the answer was actually correct, and if it wan't the people answering on the question should be refunded the game money that they bet on the question.
I know that would probably be a bit complicated but it would decrease the problem of people cheating by choosing the wrong answer as the right answer.
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displaying the correct answer on closed questions is available in beta2. I'm working on the report button
in addition to all that I have a question, its pretty obvious that acquiring QZRs is pretty important in this game (you even plan to allow people to buy QZRs using paypal and in-app purchase) but my question is, what is the point of the QZRs right now they can only be used to place bets, do you plan on adding some kind of store or reward stuff that can only be bught/unlocked by using QZR?
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Not sure how to do it exactly but in the future i'd like to give users additional benefits for their QZRs besides being on top of the leaderboard. Any ideas how to do it?
I really wanna thank you for your feedback. It has helped me a lot in the development for beta2. And i will make sure that most if not all of it will be available in beta3
Goddchen

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I really wanna thank you for your feedback. It has helped me a lot in the development for beta2. And i will make sure that most if not all of it will be available in beta3
Goddchen
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no problem
I do actually have some feedback about beta2 as well, primarily its seems like a good update, but there are still some things that bother me, first of all, after the beta2 update one of my questions seems to have become corrupted somehow.
The question I'm referring to is the "is the official name of android 3.1 icecream sandwich" question that I created under the user name mikael. The question has 2 answers, "True" and "False", but after the beta2 update my question now has 3 answers according to the pi-chart, the new option that suddenly appeared was "" in other word an empty string, currently 1 person has answered True, one has answered False, and 6 has answered "", which confused me since "" is not actually something you can select when you answer the question.
But I figured that out when I tried to close the answer, if I try to close the answer while the False otpion is selected the confirmation dialgue asks if I want to select "null" as the correct answer, the same happens if I try to select True as an answer, in other words both the true and the false answer point to the null string, which means that If anyone anwered the question after this bug occured their answer would be registered as null, instead of the option they actually selected, which expalins why 6 people apperantly answered "null". I have no idea what caused that bug, but I'm guessing its a database issue of some kind, so it something you will have to take a look at.
other than that I have another complaint, and I know that this is intentional but I think that allowing questions to stay live infinitely until they are closed is a bad idea, primarily because a lot of the questions seems to have been abandoned completely which means that everybody that answered on those questions basically just threw their game money away.
I think there should some time limit to when you have to close your question, something like 1 week or perhaps one month if you think that one week is too short. I have currently answered 7 questions on your app but only 2 of them has been closed, the other questions seem to have been abandoned by the question creator.
other than that though the app seems pretty good, I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into this app and I hope I don't put too much work on your shoulders with all of my complaints, questions and feature requests.

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I do actually have some feedback about beta2 as well, primarily its seems like a good update, but there are still some things that bother me, first of all, after the beta2 update one of my questions seems to have become corrupted somehow.
The question I'm referring to is the "is the official name of android 3.1 icecream sandwich" question that I created under the user name mikael. The question has 2 answers, "True" and "False", but after the beta2 update my question now has 3 answers according to the pi-chart, the new option that suddenly appeared was "" in other word an empty string, currently 1 person has answered True, one has answered False, and 6 has answered "", which confused me since "" is not actually something you can select when you answer the question.
But I figured that out when I tried to close the answer, if I try to close the answer while the False otpion is selected the confirmation dialgue asks if I want to select "null" as the correct answer, the same happens if I try to select True as an answer, in other words both the true and the false answer point to the null string, which means that If anyone anwered the question after this bug occured their answer would be registered as null, instead of the option they actually selected, which expalins why 6 people apperantly answered "null". I have no idea what caused that bug, but I'm guessing its a database issue of some kind, so it something you will have to take a look at.
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That bug got introduced in beta2 and fixed in beta2.1 update. I'm really sorry.
other than that I have another complaint, and I know that this is intentional but I think that allowing questions to stay live infinitely until they are closed is a bad idea, primarily because a lot of the questions seems to have been abandoned completely which means that everybody that answered on those questions basically just threw their game money away.
I think there should some time limit to when you have to close your question, something like 1 week or perhaps one month if you think that one week is too short. I have currently answered 7 questions on your app but only 2 of them has been closed, the other questions seem to have been abandoned by the question creator.
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Yeah that really is a big problem that is bothering me for days now. beta3 (which will be released today) introduces the 3 other limit types (days, date, answers). Those will be fine and exactly what you are explaining. I am unsure if i should keep the unlimited option in the app. Do you think it would be a good idea to remove it completely?
other than that though the app seems pretty good, I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into this app and I hope I don't put too much work on your shoulders with all of my complaints, questions and feature requests.
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You are not putting too much work on my shoulders. I am happy about every feedback that i can get. Keep up giving me work!
Goddchen

Yesterday i was thinking about how to make the release to the market. I want the beta testers to have a bonus for their work and help. So this is what i have come up with for a possible release to the android market:
Reset all beta tester accounts
Give all beta tester accounts 50 bonus QZRs
Remove all answers from all questions
Keep the questions so that there are some initial release questions
Make those questions owned by my account so that abandoned questions won't be a problem.
Do you have any suggestions to this?
Goddchen

Just uploaded beta3
http://quizzer-android.appspot.com/

Goddchen said:
Yesterday i was thinking about how to make the release to the market. I want the beta testers to have a bonus for their work and help. So this is what i have come up with for a possible release to the android market:
Reset all beta tester accounts
Give all beta tester accounts 50 bonus QZRs
Remove all answers from all questions
Keep the questions so that there are some initial release questions
Make those questions owned by my account so that abandoned questions won't be a problem.
Do you have any suggestions to this?
Goddchen
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sounds pretty good to me, but if you are expecting a lot of new users and questions after making the app available on the market then wouldn't it be a good idea to get some extra moderators to moderate the questions? Maybe you should pick some of the beta testers to be mods. thats your choice though, other than that I can't think of anything else to do before you put the app on the market.
oh and btw I am still receiving "null" answers on some of my questions which probably means that there are still someone who use the old app, would it be possible to somehow block "null" answers on the server side, so that so that people who still use the old version would not be able to submit answers without updating the app.

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sounds pretty good to me, but if you are expecting a lot of new users and questions after making the app available on the market then wouldn't it be a good idea to get some extra moderators to moderate the questions? Maybe you should pick some of the beta testers to be mods. thats your choice though, other than that I can't think of anything else to do before you put the app on the market.
oh and btw I am still receiving "null" answers on some of my questions which probably means that there are still someone who use the old app, would it be possible to somehow block "null" answers on the server side, so that so that people who still use the old version would not be able to submit answers without updating the app.
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Good point, i just pushed the update to the server, "" is now not allowed anymore.
Good point with the moderators. I can use any help Anyone interested?
Greets, Goddchen

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Good point, i just pushed the update to the server, "" is now not allowed anymore.
Good point with the moderators. I can use any help Anyone interested?
Greets, Goddchen
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I wouldn't mind helping you I have plenty of free time and as you have probably noticed I'm a pretty tech-savy guy, so I think I would be a pretty good moderator.