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Orbit 2 vs. Stellar

Hi,
I'm currently using the O2 Orbit (original) phone, and have really enjoyed my time with it. HOwever, I am now due an upgrade
I am debating between the Stellar and the Orbit 2. I don't miss the keyboard on the Orbit (had the Mini IIs prior, which had keyboard of course), but I wouldn't be too depressed to have one. As far as I can see, there's not much to seperate the two phones, but from user experience, which one would you buy, and why?
(or can someone think of any other alternatives?)
A.

Hi,
I found the Kaiser (o2 Stellar) very bulky, that's why I changed. Also fm radio on orbit II, better touch flo experience. Check out the new ppc's from the Barcelona WMC2008. maybe u ll find something worth waiting for. but in any case, i don't think they will be in stock with any operator soon enough for ur upgrade. i d go for the orbit II.

Jackster said:
Hi,
I found the Kaiser (o2 Stellar) very bulky, that's why I changed. Also fm radio on orbit II, better touch flo experience. Check out the new ppc's from the Barcelona WMC2008. maybe u ll find something worth waiting for. but in any case, i don't think they will be in stock with any operator soon enough for ur upgrade. i d go for the orbit II.
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I'm slightly worried about the Polairs' video driver issue... or is this not so much of a problem?

kaiser and polaris suffer from the same driver thing
people report that htc have bulged and will pay qualcom for the driver
they so far been too cheap to pay for
otherwise another possiblity could be other devices comming out using the same chip
like toshiba

Definitely go fot the Polaris, man! I'm tellin' ya
It's slimmer, more solid, and pretty And if you don't miss the keyboard of the Mini S (heh, I also had one, then changed it for a Neo (Prophet) and didn't miss the keyboard ), the Polaris is maybe the best PPC out there.
My opinion - BioTouch is much better than an old touch screen combined with a hw keyboard. And with the number of the input apps out there, it's the ultimate choice.
Tried Opera 9.5 yesterday - amazing. This browser makes your PPC the ultimate mobile internet device and combined with the BioTouch it simply rocks!

E TEN Glofiish M 800

Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.

MercuryTyTN said:
Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080

Menneisyys said:
Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.

They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..

Forgot to mention that providing VGA resolution in qVGA size is Eten and no HTC has it!
Regards,
Carty..

Does Eten provide drivers optimized for hardware video acceleration? Seeing the limitations of recent HTC phones, and having in mind a VGA resolution requires 4x the processing power of QVGA, I would say that's a must.
And, do they offer ROM updates too? HTC gave free updates from WM 5 to WM 6 for many of their phones.

Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Yeah well if HTC keeps treating its customers like crap maybe there will be support for Eten in here(crappy phones, crappy customer support, bad or wroong drivers)

M810
MercuryTyTN said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
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if you really need a keyboard you might wanna wait for the Eten M810, the sucessor to the M800, it looks really good with good specs, from personnal experience, the devices are good quality and the roms have plenty of OEM customazation from Eten.

Carty said:
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi, I had from many years a HTC Himalaya and I loved it... but now I have bought an ETEN Glofiish M800... about the Customizable ROM here u can find a recently customized Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM for the Glofiish: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=13538
Regards,
Cristian (aka tesKing)

i dont know for these new devices but for the x500/m700 ive read in many forums that eten devices with vga screens were "slow"
but ive tested none by myself

I have a TYTNII and bought the Eten M800 due to the VGA screen. The speed is more or less the same as for the HTC, i.e. slow but still useable. However you get VGA resolution in a very good quality screen. Apart form that, the M800 is almost inusable, it has touch sensitive buttons that make the everyday use a real PAIN. The WM6 is very unstable in this device probably due to the amount of (useless) applicattions that ETEN has preloaded. I found a workaround to the problem of the buttons:
1) Disable the touch buttons using the registry (leave "OK" and the Windows logo only)
2) Change the voice comnmander by the Cyberon Voice Speed dial
Then there is the problem of the paint....mine looks like 5 years old and has les than one month. Unfortunately I sold the TYTNII... too early.

I use the M800 and I am quite satisfied so far.
Sold my Touch Dual and apart from the weird touch buttons and the small RAM its a very nice device.
There are cooked roms available and you don't need to unlock anything. just put the ROM files on a FAT16 SD card, boot, hold a few buttons and 8 mins later its done.
GPSSlovakias WM 6.1 ROM for the M800 is stable and fast, much faster than the stock ROM.
i also disabled the buttons on the front. unfortunately they are not really usable.
the M810 is nice for sure, but only QVGA!
once you get used to a VGA screen you really cant go back anymore. the difference is huge. especially with apps that take full use of it, like the excellent Netfront 3.5 browser and PocketXpdf.
also it just looks that much cleaner. on TodayAgenda I can show much more info, the SPB Plus and Phone icons looks superb, etc...
IMHO its a great device but has a few shortcommings.
what i would love in the next eten:
128MB ram
flush screen
real front buttons
better keyboard
i would not say that the M800 is unusable. not for me, at least.
it was a great upgrade to my touch dual and as the dual has basically no hardware buttons, it doesnt make much difference that the M800 ones are unusable
btw, I used AE Button Plus for disabling the buttons as its more comfortable that way
the speed of the device is very good with the newest WM 6.1 ROM, really. and there is a new touch screen driver that resolves the 80% CPU bug when pressing the screen.

ROMs for ETEN M800
I agree that once you disable the buttons the device is just OK, specially the screen pays for the rest of the troubles (shared in part by HTC devices). However, I miss the nice send and end buttons of the TYTNII. Where do you get the cooked ROMs? Do you know if there is any available in spanish? I had to buy the WME version because apparently they don't market the device in Spain or any spanish speaking country or I haven't located any dealer selling a spanish version... Maybe it still does not exsist.
I've been able to enter in bootlader mode by pressing power+record+hw reset, then a terminal screen prompts for a USB loader and then for a SD card image file, however I haven't found any rom so far.

here:
WM 6.1 thread
but if you can wait, a new rom version will be upped, according to the thread starter.
I have the WWE version too, as they dont make them in German
no idea if there is a spanish rom.
of course good buttons would be nice, but i disabled the lower row and use the win, ok, left, right buttons and it works well that way.
btw if you click the record button twice, the touchbuttons get locked. if you click twice again, they get unlocked. maybe this is helpful for you

I see a lot of people complaining about the touch buttons but I am having a good experience with them. I found M800 really nice and usable.

Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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What program do you use to record calls?
Thank you

Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi,
Could you tell, please, what program do you use to record on both ways with an E-ten?
Thank you

hi there....
should i buy this fone for 250€ ?
i got an HTC Wizard for 3 years.

The m800 is the worst phone I ever had..
Bad paint, flimsy battery cover, 64MB RAM (too low for the VGA screen).
Even my ancient universal is faster (also with 64 MB) then the m800..
Glad to have a diamond now.
My advice: it's not worth the money.
For 250 you can probably buy yourself a second hand Diamond..

New PPC help

Hi, i want buy a new PPC and i don't want the iPhone.
I have the TyTN now and I want a new PPC more quick and compact and with GPS integrated and Accelerometer.
I want buy Diamond, is the best choice?
What else can I buy?
Bye

ssj5trunks said:
Hi, i want buy a new PPC and i don't want the iPhone.
I have the TyTN now and I want a new PPC more quick and compact and with GPS integrated and Accelerometer.
I want buy Diamond, is the best choice?
What else can I buy?
Bye
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today i had a friends diamond for the first time,and i was impressed,it sure is the best looking phone ever (except the back maybe), it is fast,the vga display is great,so precise,the dimensions of the device are perfect...i was shocked and i'd suggest the diamond
i own himalaya,magician,atom
and i had tytn,artemis,orbit,pharos,cruise,iphone,n95,loads of other nokias,samsungs,sony ericssons,siemenses in my hands
and diamond is the best,the coolest,the fastest,and the most interesting so far
only problem is that in first 15 mins of use touchFlo3D crashed...partially(the bottom bar dissapeared),but that's nothing too bad...you can always disable it

ssj5trunks said:
Hi, i want buy a new PPC and i don't want the iPhone.
I have the TyTN now and I want a new PPC more quick and compact and with GPS integrated and Accelerometer.
I want buy Diamond, is the best choice?
What else can I buy?
Bye
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If you had a TyTN maybe the touch Pro (Raphael) could be better for you, also see the samsung Omnia, Toshiba Protegé 910, could be good options.
If you do a search there is a thread (dont remember where) where they analize the best options
Hope this helps
Cheers

orb3000 said:
If you had a TyTN maybe the touch Pro (Raphael) could be better for you, also see the samsung Omnia, Toshiba Protegé 910, could be good options.
If you do a search there is a thread (dont remember where) where they analize the best options
Hope this helps
Cheers
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nah...raphael is as thick as tytn...and thats too much,i don't like slideout devices and wouldn't recommend them to anyone because they are too think,heavy andmost of all have very vulnerable flat cables
and ssj5trunks wanted something compact...and diamond has pretty good dimensions
(compact+not too small)/2 =well balanced and that is what diamond is

What's the best WinMo phone of 2008?

This website says HTC Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com
Anyone feel the same way? I know the new iPhone has 3G but the Diamond also touts 3G speed...

The iPhone is not a WinMo phone.
Why even bring it up if you're asking what the best WinMo phone is?

My candidates for the best WinMo phone of 2008 are:
Super number 1.- Htc Advantage x7510!!
1.- Touch Pro Raphael
2.- Samsung Omnia
3.- Toshiba protegé g910
4.- Diamond
Iphone is not WinMo and can not compare with any of the ones above
Iphone sucks in several aspects.... so let´s not talk about it!
Cheers

thanx for spamming us with your site.

tom108 said:
thanx for spamming us with your site.
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Yeah, all 5 of his posts are basically cut-and-paste.

Currently I would say the HTC Touch Diamond.
Either the HTC Touch Pro or the SE Expreria might surpass it when they become available.

orb3000 said:
My candidates for the best WinMo phone of 2008 are:
Super number 1.- Htc Advantage x7510!!
1.- Touch Pro Raphael
2.- Samsung Omnia
3.- Toshiba protegé g910
4.- Diamond
Cheers
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Hahaha you're joking, right? I presume yo;ve never actually used any of the above, especially the G910...
My vote would be the i780, possibly followed by the i900 if you don't want a keyboard (too early for real user reviews yet). Forget the eye-candy and go for something that works better than any other PPC out there - at a bargain price. Not just my opinion:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411053

hello from italy
i had samsung 780,and now i have diamond and omnia, i beleve omnia is the best or will be the best, it have a good battery, superb cam, big display (alas with bad resolution), good touchscreen, write on it is easy without stylus, problem with navigators, tomtom7 needs of gps gate, garmin is free (why always this problem?), the fix is good,
some little problem with installations of some programs and games, with diamond no problems, for me however omnia is the best for NOW

next phone ?

hero - magic - tattoo ?
They all are on android ? Which one to choose ?
I'm opting for magic - with one exception, no real qwerty keyboard.
Tia,
m32

I've had a Tattoo. I sent it back. I'm gonna get a Nokia of all phones next. Decided I'll get a n97 mini. I like them, they look solid.
The Tattoo was very good. But I was disappointed by the processer. I don't think it would last a 24 month contract before I smashed it up. For example, they bundled 2 games on the phone, and neither were smooth. They were both jerky and nasty.
Android does look the way forward though.

Well they all don't have a hardware keyboard
Go for Hero or Magic, they have the same hardware, the Tattoo has a worse screen.
You can easily get Sense on the Magic, so that's not a reason for the Hero (unless you don't want to flash )

is sgh-i780
an option?
i myself would like to upgrade to this as its quite fast 624mhz
and has wm6.5(cooked) gps wlan umts qwertz touchscreen (2,2")
would someone recommend me this phone?
i want one that is quite dureable so the buildquality should be good!
as i use it very often and long everyday!

hashtowent said:
is sgh-i780
an option?
i myself would like to upgrade to this as its quite fast 624mhz
and has wm6.5(cooked) gps wlan umts qwertz touchscreen (2,2")
would someone recommend me this phone?
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No use i7500 - Galaxy, but as HTC Phones - it has no real keyboard, but hast better AMOLED touch-screen, and more memory for start 8GB (flash)
m32