T-Mobile customer...what phone to get?? - General Topics

Ok my G1 is done and out, i'm not sure what phone to get. I'm staying with t-mo because i'm still under contract on some of the lines on my family plan. My limit on spending on the phone is $300 so no Nexus or Milestone,I AM eligible for a full upgrade price through T-Mo though...
Here are my current options
MyTouch Slide-Not too crazy on the cpu, not a lot of feedback/hype of the phone, so maybe not alot of support will come to it after it's release?. Dont really like that it's targeted as a beginner android phone
wait 'til Galaxy S comes out- But will this thing even come to T-Mo? If so WHEN?
wait 'til Motoroi,havent heard much about it. Highly doubt it will come to T-Mo
wait and see if Nexus One comes to retail store???
wait and see what this whole "Big thing" in June 19th is all about that T-Mobile is talking about
What do you guys think I should do? I would like to get into a new android phone within the next month, I'm using an ancient brick right now and I really miss having a smartphone

Honestly, I don't like any of the phones you mentioned. If I had to reccomend a phone, or two, I would suggest the Touch Pro 2 because of the keyboard, does what you need it to do and then some, great deal of applications and custom roms available. Second would be the HD2 because of everything that I said about the TP2 but waaaaayyyyy faster.

I dont need a physical keyboard, though I want to stay with Android.
I had my eyes on the HD2 but only because of the possibility of porting Android onto it, but looks like that wont happen.
Isnt the TP2 a dated phone? How is it faster than the HD2?

hmmm well i got my nexus one for 365 without a contract but i dont think you could do that anymore since they cancelled the online store... i ordered and cancelled and just paid the ETF instead of the 529....for me its all about the support from google and the devs, since the mytouch slide has sense ui itll take wayyy longer for it to get updates from google.
I would wait out to see what happens with the nexus one bro, this phone is the best thing and i came from the g1 as well.

I know man, I want to get either the Galaxy S or the Nexus but I dont know how long I can wait..
I was thinking of getting a mytouch 1.2 or something from craigslist to cruise until something worthwhile actually comes up from T-mobile and then selling it off again.
I did this when i broke my 1st G1, i got a 2nd G1 to cruise until something comes out,but the 2nd G1 didnt last long either. IDK if I want to pay the $200 for a used mytouch 1.2 with the fear of not able to sell it later down the road....

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[Q] HTC HD2 or Nexus One? or Tilt 2?

i wanna ask everyone a question here, my birthday is coming up and i decided to get a new phone, i always wanted the HD2 but since TMobile has announced that its only going to be exclusive to them i wont be able to get 3G with AT&T, do you think its still worth getting it even though ill be on EDGE?
also one more question, the Nexus One has been released and it has similar specs to HD2, what you think is better as far as functionallity and battery would go for?
P.S. thought i wanna throw in this but i was thinking bout the Tilt 2 from AT&T i know its got a bigger screen than FUZE and i still got 3G...decisions decisions
looking foward to everyones answers, thanks!
I think you should wait it out, the year just started so newer and better phone are sure to be released. I heard the Nexus had some problems, pretty minor and can be fixed via update but you'll only beable to use edge on Att.
Definitely wait it out...it was announced at CES that AT&T would be receiving 5 Android devices (three of them HTC), for all you know one of them could be the Nexux One or Nexus One Pro! It would suck to drop $530 on a phone just to use EDGE.
That will depend a lot if you prefer Android or WM
Personally I would go for Leo or Rhodium as I think Android is to young and immature OS...I am sure in the near future it will be a good option but not now..at least for me
Good luck on your decision!
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Definitely wait it out...it was announced at CES that AT&T would be receiving 5 Android devices (three of them HTC), for all you know one of them could be the Nexux One or Nexus One Pro! It would suck to drop $530 on a phone just to use EDGE.
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damn that is true.....i just dont uderstand what AT&T was thinking, but then yet again im not ready to move into Andriod JUST YET...ATT they have the Expo but no custom rom yet
But you gotta admit the "Leo" looks better than the Nexus IMO, I never used a WinMo phone but ive always used windows(2000,XP,7).
I was wondering how fast the phone is and if it had a Dragon under the hood.
ya i wanna get the feel of 1ghz...well hopefully ATT will annouce a WM phone with another 1ghz chip very soon hopefully within the next month or so, but for now i should start collecting money and save up
btw is there an HD2 from a mobile company that runs on the same bands as ATT?? i heard Telstra from AUS runs it but i wanna confirm if it does

Help me decide what (android) phone to get!

So, I'm looking to get a new phone soon. I'm budgeted for $500$850 in mid-May for it, tho I'd be willing to wait as long as August or September if something really awesome is coming out.
I'm on T-mobile, so need a GSM phone that works on T-Mo, with T-Mo's 3g.
I'm hooked on Android, so whatever phone it is has to run Android (tho if I have to flash Android onto it, I'm cool with that, so long as there's a fully working ROM available!).
I've got a G1 now, and really like it, but I'd like a bigger/higher res screen (min 3.5 inches&800x400ish res), and a faster phone, so, faster CPU&more RAM. (I've got my g1 running cyanogen with the 10MB hack, and it's pretty decent, but I've got upgrade fever and want BETTER *grin*.)
I love the hardware keyboard, but have been using swype since they opened it to beta and could see myself living without a hardware keyboard. (Tho I'd rather not, as I've had phones with hardware qwerty keyboards since 2005 or so!)
I also want a good camera. The camera in the g1 is alright. I'd like a better one, but one about the same would be ok.
oh, and it definitely needs to used microsdhc. I'd prefer if the memory card slot was pretty accessible, as it is on the g1, but I can live with it being under the battery or somewhere stupid like that.
So, what phones should I be checking out?
I've only ever had 1 smart phone: HTC Desire. Can't fault it. I note you like the hard keyboard, but the Desire's soft keyboard is very good.
The Desire defintely meets most of my specs. On wikipedia it says 32Gb microsd. Did it come with a 32GB memory card, or is wiki just listing the max supported?
thats its max. it came with a 4gb, but i'd check that when you buy it. Mine was HTC branded (unlocked). The card was already in the phone, so when i was in the shop i thought it didn't come with one.
Good to know, thanks. I'll be buying it online if I get it, since I'm in the states, but I'll be sure to read the listing to see what size card it's got!
Do you have it rooted? I see it's been rooted but /system can't be accessed. Well, still, odds are that'll be done well before I'm looking to buy!
No i don't. At this stage I'm not too bothered, but almost certainly will mess with that soon.
Look at the Nexus One & it's resume' over at it's forum section
Nexus one is certainly a possibility, but after the 3g issues, I'm sorta hesitant.
I think that the Nexus 1 or the HTC Desire are the best android devices that are released. I would suggest the Xperia X10 but it's firmware is outdated and lacks multitouch and is super laggy regardless of the snapdragon processor. So, for now, and if you need 1 now, then get the Nexus 1 or the Desire.
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Nexus one is certainly a possibility, but after the 3g issues, I'm sorta hesitant.
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What 3G issues? I & most N1 owners have none & are locked on 3G all the time. The only issues are T-Mobile's coverage & towers!
I meant the 3g issues it had when released. Doesn't make sense, I suppose, but it gave me a bad initial impression of the phone, which has persisted. And I can't even go by the T-mobile store and play with the phone to dispell my bad impression, cos it can only be bought online.
An Android phone for you?
Htc Desire or Htc Legend....I would prefer the legend for a lady..my girlfriend's got it ...I tried them both...they are fantastic, I have Hero so! we are very HAPPY...you are in the right way..Android is the future.
Which Android to get??
Htc Desire of course 100% you going to be fine!!
Legend doesn't meet my desired specs at all. 600mhz processor, 320x480 screen, EW! Desire looks spiffy, but from reading the specs, I don't think it'll work on T-mobile US, will it?
I'm leaning toward the nexus one. Roomie is getting the AT&T version, and I'm going to get to play with it while rooting&romming it for her, so that'll give me a chance to decide if the nexus one will work for me or not.
On the super nice side, I've got about $350 worth of unexpected overtime coming up (someone going out of town on short notice) so my budget changes, and I can afford to spend about $850 now! If I go with the nexus one, I'll probably get it from colorware.
Yeah the Desire wont have 3g on tmo
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Well just to let you know, the desire wont have tmo's 3g access due to it being from overseas.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. So the desire is out of the running.
All-Are there any especially awesome phones set to come out in the next few months? I just don't want to buy the nexus one and then 6 weeks from now see the 'Nexus one with a physical keyboard!' released.
you should go with the HD 2. I just read that there is a ROM so it can run 2.1 with sense. but look it up in case I read wrong or something. I'm sure you would double check anyway
Yeah, I'm in the same boat, kinda thinking about ditching tmo and going for the evo4g
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you should go with the HD 2. I just read that there is a ROM so it can run 2.1 with sense. but look it up in case I read wrong or something. I'm sure you would double check anyway
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I looked for Android ROMs for the HD2 middle of last week, and concluded there aren't any good ones, which is a shame cos the HD2 hardware is SWEET.
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat, kinda thinking about ditching tmo and going for the evo4g
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The thought crossed my mind, but I'm on a family plan and switching companies would cost me too much.

Upgrade to Inspire?

My Contract with AT&T ended on the 14th. They will upgrade me to the Inpsire for 69 bones with another 2 yr Commitment. I looked and the only other phones they have right now that I am interested in are the Atrix @ 199 and the Iphone 4 @ 99 for a refurb...
I have scoured these forums for the choices I have, and Inspire seems like the best. With that said tho, should I wait? Is there anything worthy coming out that I am missing? I do not see anything anywhere slated, but Two years is a long time and I will be stuck with my choice. Would make me a sad Panda if something great comes out in two months that I could have waited on.
I Just want to make the best decision, I am upgrading from a iphone 3g. ..Like I said, two years is a long time...
There won't be anything of interest for at least a couple months, likely longer. As for being stuck with your choice you can always sell your inspire and buy a different phone later on. The only other thing I would consider is holding onto your upgrade (maybe for iPhone5 to resell when it comes out) and just buying the inspire on here from someone with one for sale. Probably be about 340 for one.
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My Contract with AT&T ended on the 14th. They will upgrade me to the Inpsire for 69 bones with another 2 yr Commitment. I looked and the only other phones they have right now that I am interested in are the Atrix @ 199 and the Iphone 4 @ 99 for a refurb...
I have scoured these forums for the choices I have, and Inspire seems like the best. With that said tho, should I wait? Is there anything worthy coming out that I am missing? I do not see anything anywhere slated, but Two years is a long time and I will be stuck with my choice. Would make me a sad Panda if something great comes out in two months that I could have waited on.
I Just want to make the best decision, I am upgrading from a iphone 3g. ..Like I said, two years is a long time...
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In my opinion, it's taking AT&T this long to offer a brilliant phone like the Inspire 4G. You may be waiting a long time till something better comes out. And the Atrix is a joke. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
There's just so much choice as far as customization goes and with the right set up...an Inspire 4G is as fast as any dual core processor out there.
But it also depends on your personal choice. If a Front Facing Camera is important to you. Then the Inspire isn't for you.
mmmm *hugs my inspire* I am glad I bought you out of contract.
I was in the "should've waited two more months to use my upgrade" situation, myself, with the captivate->inspire, so I understand your concern.
However, spending an upgrade on an inspire is a lot less likely to give you "used my upgrade remorse" than if you had done it with a captivate, only to have the inspire come out a couple months later.
This is a solid phone that will make you wonder how you managed to get it for that low of a price.
And that's coming from someone who paid full, Off-contract price, even.
Inevitably, though, a new phone will come out. You may want to consider, as mentioned, grabbing one Off-contract, and save your upgrade for when the new phone does come out.
(By the time that happens, I'll personally be up for another upgrade, and I know I will be much more discriminating in how I choose to spend it, this time around.)
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Hmmm, Thanks guys. I just looked at ebay and I can get 200 - 250 for my 3g unlocked. It broke 2 months ago and Apple gave me new one so this one is in perfect shape. Looks like I can get an inspire out of contract for 300-350 bones. That might just be the best solution for me.
Maybe i should go in and try it out for 25 days or so and ensure I like it. I need it to mostly stream Sirius XM at work. But as my 3g does that I am sure this will have no issues.
I was without a contract for a good long while, so I replaced my Tilt with an Inspire. Now that there is a model of the Evo with a REAL keyboard, I'm starting to wish I had waited longer, for the possibility of an Inspire with a REAL keyboard.
I get REALLY REALLY tired of having to retype everything 2-3 times on the fake keyboard phones.
I am happy with the on screen keyboards. But I don't use my phone for texting. Sometimes I'll reply to the wife. Most times I don't even do that. Lol
I need/want Siruis XM and a Book reader. Truthfully I could prolly just stay on my 3g. Its slow, but both of those things work perfectly. Stanza Reader is amazing.......I would just like a new shiney.
I had a tilt, I loved it, flashed a rom every other day and then made my own. Which is another reason I am looking at this phone. I was completely addicted to customizing when I could.
I have an Evo and the Inspire is basically an Evo with better specs, so yes definitely take the Inspire. DO NOT TAKE THE ATRIX. You can't do much with it in terms of rooting, etc. The whole phone screams GIMMICK. Either get the Inspire, or:
1. Get iPhone 4
2. Sell iPhone 4 for $400-$500
3. Get Inspire 4G
4. ???
5. PROFIT!
Ha, that buying reselling thing aint my bag.
Go for the inspire. I compare it with my mom iphone and my phone KILLS it. Once it gets the speed it deserves you wrong be disappointed
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Get inspire 4g after what people say on this forum they will have an atrix and go back to inspire...
Thanks for the feedback! I'm in the same situation (have a 3GS and currently out of contract). Actually had a Captivate for a week when they first released and took it back due to all the issues. I think I'll actually grab the Inspire now.
Yeah thanks peeps. I have been inspired to leave apple. I'll try it for 25 days and if I like I will keep.
Hard not to just get the iphone4 for 99 bux tho.......
tweaked said:
Yeah thanks peeps. I have been inspired to leave apple. I'll try it for 25 days and if I like I will keep.
Hard not to just get the iphone4 for 99 bux tho.......
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I work for an AT&T Dealer ... I strongly discourage you from buying anything refurb from AT&T/Apple.
You will do much better scouring your local craigslist for a gently used iPhone 4 and buying a $2.00 microSIM adapter off amazon then doing your upgrade to the inspire and enjoying the freedom to come and go as you please from the confines of the apple OS.
I might also suggest you research the Samsung Captivate. Lots of outlets have it on clearance right now for as little as $.01. You will find much more customization options for it and better battery life.
Then again, love my Inspire ... thats why I have two phones, one for work and one for play.
Good luck!
Not sure I feel ya on that referb stuff man. I bought my current Iphone from ATT referbished they replaced it a year and 7 months after when I dropped it and broke it... For free. Not underwarranty, had no insurance...They just hooked me up.
A phone is nothing but a toy for me. Spending money on a used Iphone and then also on an inspire is out. That is just to much money on somethin I use to read books and listen to stern at work on. I think getting the inspire and still having my 3g will be plenty. If after 25 days I still use my 3g more, well, then I'll take the inspire back and get the iphone 4. ../Shrug.

[Q] Looking to up grade from Tilt2

I've had a HTC Tilt 2 for the last year and its starting to get less desirable than it used to when i got it. I love the phone is just that it is now to the point that i have to push the reset button at least 3 times a day...minimum. used to have to hit maybe once a week. it also sucks that there is a minimal amount of decent apps for it. so I can decide if i want to upgrade to the Inspire or the Iphone 3gs(can't afford an Iphone 4). My only big problem with either is that neither has a slide out keyboard like my Tilt does which i love because I can poke out messages real well on the virtual...i would probably get better if i was forced to though and that the battery life is kind of crappy on the Inspire. Can anybody out there help me out? Let me know if yall need more information from me to help any.
Battery life is manageable if you intend to MOD your Inspire. Stock ROM battery life is poor, trade off for the screen size.
If price is really an issue, look for a Captivate. Some retailers offer it for free and it is a BLAST once it is flashed (so is the Inspire).
Whatever you choose though, I can only advise you avoid the 3GS and don't fall into the trap of purchasing the LG Quantum or Moto Flipout just because they have real keyboards. You will just be SAD and BORED.
The iPhone is so last week ...
Just traded my Tilt2 in for the Inspire, and I love it. I too loved my keyboard and thought I would miss it but I don't. Yeah the battery is just okay but my Tilt wasn't any better and if you wark like I do I always have a USB close. I also ordered an extra battery, like I do for all my phones. Go for it, you won't be sorry and around here, it's 99 bucks.
I came from a T2 as well and haven't looked back. I don miss the keyboard at all. If anything I can type faster with the Inspire. In landscape the keys are much bigger & if you don't like the stock one there are dozens more to try in the market.
The community is much better here too. Dev's respond frequently to questions in general as well as Rom topics and there is a much better sense of humor around here.
Take the plunge. You won't look back either. After a day or 2 when you finally put the T2 in a drawer it will feel tiny.
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Year ago I went from the Tilt2 to Captivate. Night and Day Difference in Operating systems. I had stuck with WM even coming from the days of IpaQ's. I sold the Captivate which you can one on Craigslist and Bought the Inspire. I really enjoyed the Captivate but The Inspire is a solid device. You will not go wrong with either choice. Do not get caught up in the subsidized price search around and you will find good deals on devices.
I switched too.
I went from the Tilt2 to the Inspire also, and I LOVE it I was a die hard windows guy, but microsoft lost me with mobile ver7. if you really want a T2 i still have my old one with extended battery and already hard spl'd
Once you get used to not using a stylus it's not that hard, i did find it is easier if i calibrate the keyboard after i flash a new rom, might just be a mental thing
Just say no to apple!! get the Inspire!!
God there's a lot of tilt 2 users in this forum. As for me i will buying the inspire near the summer. I still have hopes in the XDANDROID project, hopefully we'll have BT working.
the only reason i am slightly worried about price is because i am in a two year contract with ATT and i am to the point that i can stand the locking up anymore and I'm willing to pay 115 bucks to get out. as far as changing the roms on the Inspire are they easy to change? only im i changed the rom on my T2 was because that new stock rom with sense came out and i had been wanting to get it. on the inspire is there away to get a lot of the apps on the store for free?
i have noticed that amazon wireless has the inspire for like 70 bucks but i have to be ready for an upgrade. i wonder if i call att and pay them the money to end my contract if i will in turn be able to go straight to amazon wireless and buy the phone? what do yall think?
I've heard of some long time at&t customers calling customer service and getting an upgrade early, especially if the topic of switching carriers comes up. I recall this being brought up here in Inspire General, do some searching.
As far as switching roms goes, it couldn't be easier. If you backup your apps with google using a gmail account & and your contacts using the multitude of options available everything but your widgets, home screen layout and side loaded apps gets restored very shortly after 1st boot.
This process makes windows mobile look like a joke. No need for scrips like UC to get everything back the way it was.
I upgraded from Tilt2 mid February.while still half way through my contract. Called & asked how much was my early termination fee coz i was thinking of switching to Verizon (been with ATT for 4+ yrs). They asked why and told them I was looking at iPhone 4 or Thunderbolt. Also told them I was interested with inspire only if i could get an early upgrade. They said ok for 199. I told them I saw an upgrade offer for $69 @ Walmart.com & radioshack. I think I saw it somewhere recently for 49 bucks.
Long story short, they honored the price & I got the phone in 2 days with an early term fee of 350 if i cancelled within 2 yrs. Unlimited plan grandfathered.
Maybe I shudda waited for the Thunderbolt or Sensation from T-MO but I'm happy with this phone even without the front facing cam for now.
Still enjoying stock ROM.
Never had any problems with the Tilt2 with energy ROM. I stuck with the version shown below my signature. Didn't flash to any updated versions as it was stable for my usage.
The only thing I miss is outlook task syncing. Calendar is ok but i dont get appointment & tasks notifications anymore. Something I should research when i get a chance.
Hope that helps.
Sorry for the long response.
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Galaxy Nexus/ Nexus prime.

You know you all have been looking at it, waiting for tomorrow to see this thing. Anyone been thinking about getting it?
none of them convince me
I'm thinking about getting it. hope it has an sd slot available. I know that I certainly will miss my wifi calling, I get no reception at my house but great reception every where else.
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Shaquiel Harris said:
You know you all have been looking at it, waiting for tomorrow to see this thing. Anyone been thinking about getting it?
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Absolutely I plan on getting it, the Sensation will be the LAST non stock (Sense, Touchwiz, Crap In A Bucket, etc.) Android phone I ever buy. Hopefully it comes to Tmobile soon, since I cant stand dealing with the Sensation (on my third now) any longer.
Galaxy Nexus looks delicious. But if I actually changed phones every time I wanted to, my wife would have my head. Especially since I'm the one who pried her away from her silly iPhone world to go Android.
Definitely keeping an eye on this device though.
No plans yet, but will keep an eye on reviews ...
The way it's looking right now, I'll be leaving T-Mobile for Verizon and getting the Nexus Prime. It's been over 2 months since the data speeds in my area have dropped to EDGE. T-Mobile stated that they need to replace the T1 cables, and that there is no ETA on the completion of this work. It seems that T-Mobile's quality of service has taken a dive over the past few months, so I'd rather pay a few bucks more and actually get what I pay for.
The Sensation has been a great phone. It's the service that's lacking. At least I'll be able to cover the ETF by selling the Sensation.
nice! so many complainers btw.
Only thing that sucks is that 299 price tag. Apparently there are two models the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Verizon Exclusive) and then there is the Samsung Nexus Prime that will be coming to t-mobile, sprint, at&t. Why wouldnt the Nexus, of all phones NOT come to tmobile since they debuted Android and carried the Nexus one and Nexus S? I'm assuming t-mobile won't be selling the device directly but we should be able to use a upgrade you have through t-mobile to get the device on contract correct? this is the first time i'm gonna attempt to get a nexus phone.
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I'm thinking about getting it. hope it has an sd slot available. I know that I certainly will miss my wifi calling, I get no reception at my house but great reception every where else.
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With 32 GB's of storage, i highly doubt there will be a SDslot. But the only thing i'm actually concerned about with this phone is porting roms to the device. With a resolution its supposed to come with, we wont be seeing MIUI for a while. also i never see it but hell even porting the ice cream sandwich version of HTC sense. as much as i don't like it, i do like flashing to get a different feel from AOSP for a while. Anyone concerned about that?
Ive thought long and hard about this phone...I was all ready to sell the sensation and go for the Prime but....
1-Once that thing is out, the sensation value is going to plummet.
2-Id have to buy it outright since I used my upgrade for the sensation. (Made worse by 1, above)
3-Once I go through all the trouble of getting it, a whole new species of phone will likely be on its way (not just a memory upgrade, but a whole new tech worth having, like some crazy quadcore phone or something).
4-Once ICS is out, the sensation will likely show its true inner beast and thus still be a contender with the Prime.
If I am going to spend big $$$ to get a phone, it better be revolutionary! If I find that the sensation only falls a short distance behind the Prime once the sensation is "fixed", then I would be pissed.
Id rather "suffer" with a fully optimized sensation and wait for next upgrade's SOB phone.
Matt
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Ive thought long and hard about this phone...I was all ready to sell the sensation and go for the Prime but....
1-Once that thing is out, the sensation value is going to plummet.
2-Id have to buy it outright since I used my upgrade for the sensation. (Made worse by 1, above)
3-Once I go through all the trouble of getting it, a whole new species of phone will likely be on its way (not just a memory upgrade, but a whole new tech worth having, like some crazy quadcore phone or something).
4-Once ICS is out, the sensation will likely show its true inner beast and thus still be a contender with the Prime.
If I am going to spend big $$$ to get a phone, it better be revolutionary! If I find that the sensation only falls a short distance behind the Prime once the sensation is "fixed", then I would be pissed.
Id rather "suffer" with a fully optimized sensation and wait for next upgrade's SOB phone.
Matt
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They are announcing the device tomorrow night. I'll be watching and thats when ill make my final decision on selling my sensation. I've never had a nexus device so i really want to try one, and i don't think this phone will disappoint since i know they want to try and fix their mistake they have with that fail Nexus S. im actually concerned now about the price. If its SUBSIDIZED at 299 for Verizon, and there is no guarantee that it will be subsidized for other carriers (if it even comes to other carriers) what will the price be. I'm not going to get it if i'm forced to pay full retail price which i know will be expensive, i have a upgrade which i'd like to use to get the device.
Now, what does this have to do with the sensation?

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