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Hello everyone. I've a sort of proposal for the developers here, but before I get into that let me first briefly introduce myself:
I'm a communication designer for print, user interface, and illustration that completely advocates everything Android. I've been lurking the Dream development forums here for quite some time, trying to keep up-to-date with the latest ROMs, apps, etc., etc and I fully appreciate everything that goes on here and the endeavors that you devs put yourself through. Amazing stuff, really.
One thing I've noticed is that there are a slew of third-party / beta apps all over these boards, and other places on the internet as well. More often than not, I find myself scouring the cloud just to find a link for these non-market apps, and I usually get referred to them via some obscure site through another site. Despite getting the .apk file or ROM in the end, the process can get to be a bit tedious; especially for incoming users and those new to the Android platform.
My proposal is this: A website with a simple and clean user interface that has direct and succinct navigation with the purpose of consolidating and listing third-party / beta non-market applications into an easy access database. This website database would link these applications and have them be easily downloaded and installed via the Android browser, without having to mount the device.
I've actually come up with a fully-functional concept site, did the branding and everything for it, and also registered a short domain name for quick access while on your G1 or whatever Android device.
Navigate to: http://anda.pk to see what I had in mind, and how the overall layout/concept of the site would work.
I uploaded several .apk files I had backed up as examples for you to see how the database section would function. I also took into account the resolution of most Android phones and made the .apk application database section fit perfectly in the Android browser when in portrait mode right when you the load the site to ensure the best possible user experience when installing these third party apps. When you scroll to the right, you'll see info on what the site is about, and in the footer there are links to the FAQ, the about section, contact, etc.
I had also noted in the about link in the footer that the applications hosted on the download section are in no way accredited to the site, and that credit goes to their rightful developers. My being a communication designer has had the idea of peer collaboration engrained, and as such I give credit it where credit is due.
That said, I hope you guys here and the developers collaborate with me on on this site, possibly help contribute apks, and agree to them being hosted. If anything, I do hope you just embrace the concept, which originally was just going to be a reference for myself and my friends whom I've turned away from the iPhone, S60, and WinMo in favor of Android. I figured since I know the Android community is only going to get bigger, this website concept of mine could be a decent resource to have bookmarked.
Appreciate you reading this wall of text! Do hope to hear some feedback, so let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
Cheers.
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
Been following this on SA and twitter and it's a great idea.
Having the devs here on board would be a fantastic way to get something solid on the go. It's the kind of thing that can really help android become more hackable and useable for the average user...and it just make things easier for the rest of us.
Sounds good to me.
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the applications hosted on the download section are in no way accredited to the site
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Credit and accreditation are different things. To be accredited is to be given credentials or official approval. I think you meant "credited".
Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
camalot said:
i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
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i second that.. it should also have update checks if possible
I was going to complain that I didn't like your site layout, but in portrait mode you only see the left side which lists the apps. I like it.
One thing you might have to be leary of is dealing with apps that are considered warez unless your going to spend the time to verify every app that is uploaded or there has to a method in place.
As well there should be some kind of version control in place. You know what works on 1.1 and what works on 1.5. Obviously almost everybody within the next few weeks/months should be on 1.5, but will all the older apps run on 1.5 or does it really matter or does anybody care? The downloader will care.
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Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
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Seconded. The text is much too light. A darker charcoal shade would be much better.
If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
Some solid input. I'll play around with the color scheme and make some changes later this evening once I get back from class. And I actually do plan on making a mobile wrapper eventually, but as it stands as far as the concept layout goes, the site is best used when in portrait mode for easiest functionality. The rest of the site is to be considered supplemental. I do however, have a lot of things I eventually want to integrate; application tags, search, possibility of user uploaded apk files, etc. But for right now, I'm trying to keep the general site as simple as possible to make the workload on my end less stressful (graduating in 2 weeks).
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If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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That's not necessarily how most version checks work, but that's the simplest method I could think of, and probably one of the easiest to implement.
alapapa said:
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
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Thanks! And I feel I might need some help in the future as far as implementing the features that I want to get working. But I'm not quite sure I understand your question. Are you referring to how I choose which applications get posted onto the site?
i'm a graphic designer and web designer, i'll throw in a helping hand if you want, pm me or whatever.
(think about an android based layout to bring it to the phone like Cough*cydia*cough
very cool and much needed
Xda-dev is great, but there is alot of stuff thats not on the market and they have shown to bow down to the tmobs pressure(ie: tether app) so another place to get apps would be great, and your weppage is beautiful and looks like it would be very finger friendly on the g1, but there is a basic model in linux of repositories(which is about what ur doing) and a simple app to d/l them maybe somebody could just make a market.apk with a modded addy, depending on how much is known about the market and its inner workings... it would be nice to do it as it has been always done....but as I stated above your webdesign is very nice and would work well in the native browser(im heading there now on my g1)
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not a bad idea. I think this is great for all verified apps that are pulled from market...
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
apetit said:
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
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Haha, I just noticed that actually. Now it's all I see. But yeah, I'm hoping to have a few more apps to upload by the end of next week. Revisions to the site are imminent once I get out of this last class.
I love the idea. One bookmark to check up on all the good non-market apps will be much easier than having several bookmarked threads.
Some applications may benefit from having tags such as [beta], [stable], [experimental], [contains-ads], etc.
As others have mentioned once/if user uploads are implemented an app approval system will be crucial to keep the spam at bay. I can see this really taking off.
im a supporter
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im a supporter
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+1 this sounds like a great idea, there was something like this for apps for the dash,mda & sda.
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
Hey buddy, thank you so much for this! I feel exactly the same - I hate having a few apps & games with irregular icons contrary to the overall theme. This contribution is perfect will allow me add my own personal icons Much due respect & credit to DINIK, whom I hope doesn't mind?
If anyone else has used my blank icon template and has produced any icons they would like to share with everyone, then feel free to post them on here.
I have done a couple more... they all look good on the phone.
IF you get time is there any chance of posting steps to putting image behind template?
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IF you get time is there any chance of posting steps to putting image behind template?
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Hi,
You need to firstly have your icon that you want to put behind the template. It should have a transparent background, ideally in a good resolution PNG format. (create one in Photoshop if you can't find one)
Then in Photoshop, open the button template I have attached in the zip files above.
From the 'File' menu in Photoshop, select 'Place...'.
Locate your icon graphic, and it will be placed on the template.
From here, you can play around with shadows and effects to suit your taste. If you want to resize it, hold the 'Alt' key while dragging from a corner to maintain ratio.
Make sure the 'placed' graphic is the bottom layer in the list on the right, you can click and drag the layers to re-order them. So button blank on the top, graphic on the bottom.
When you are happy with the icon, go back to the 'File' menu and select 'Save for web', and name and save as highest resolution PNG with the transparency selected. It'll preview before you save it.
Simply save the new icon to your phone and set it as you would any other icon on your phone.
Job done.
Thank you very much for the icons and for the psd file, appreciate it very much.
I know that you dont take requests, but i would kill for an icon to ameba
nniicckkss said:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
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I hope you like my icons and my other works...because thanks to you and some other people here...i dont feel like im gonna share more works of me...your doing brings artist like me to go away!
Be proud of yourself! And all other can thank him.
Im gonna take all my works down...till...i dont know...till people like him...learn to respect creator and there wishes...
Uh oh! _
nniicckkss said:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
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@ nniicckkss, I share your point of view about creators not or partly sharing, and I believe that if you want to share anything why not share components so other creators can supplement what original creators started to share. It's quit frustrating to have a half-ass theme on your phone.
However, Dinik always shares and provides almost everything you ask for, all you need to do is show respect to the original author, look at it like copyright The way you handle this is quit disrespectful and far from decent. Why don't you just respect Dinik and ask him to help or provide? (I assume that didn't happen, if I mistake than sorry and forget my reply).
@ Dinik, thanks for all your material, I specially love the Anastasia series. You can also think of it as a great compliment, only great artists are worth copying It would be a shame if you'd take offence to this and withdrew your material due to this lack of moral.
I think both of you should handle this in a mature fashion, Nniicckkss, next time ask and pay respect and Dinik look at this as a compliment and just continue providing us with your beautiful artwork.
I take down ALL my works!!!
Why?
Because of some users like nniicckkss.
What did they done to make me take that decision?
Most people here are rely GREAT! But there are some...that just dont respect Artists like me...they dont respect my wishes...they just rip my works...modifiy them and post it.
I clearly have writen my Rules...Here:
ATTENTION!!!
01. You are free to use my works for private use.
02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)
03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)
04. You are not allowed to include my works in your Roms. (Without my Permission)
05. I welcome modifications and fixes from other users but please contact me first via private message before posting you modifications in the thread.
P.S.: This are my Rules, simple and fair. If you break them. I gonna contact the Admins.
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I posted to Admins for help...but in last time there is no response from them.
So i right now i see no other way.
I dont gonna stop working on Modifications and skinning!
I just dont gonna post any of my new or old cabs.
Thank thous people.
I dont know for how long...but for now...thats it!
nniicckkss said:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
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Thanks nniicckkss for sharing your files. I also have Diniks icons and it bothers me to have some regular icons mixed in with the others. I am not good at photoshop at all but I managed to figure out basic layering and I made my own icons (albeit nothing compared to Dinik's). So thanks for sharing the blank layer as that is one I cannot do at all.
I don't see what the big deal is here. nniicckkss said he was not taking credit for anything and we (those who have anastasia icons) know that it is all original Dinik. So Dinik, man, get a hold of yourself! You are fighting with almost everyone in this forum (like DJC)! I love your work but man, it seems like you cannot work with others or take too many things seriously!
I don't think you don't see the point of nniicckkss post. Do you really want everyone to bombard you with requests for icons for everything? Unless you provide us with all possible icons that we will install in our phones then we will gladly erase all copycat or self-made icons as your icons are definitely high quality BUT IN THE END, THEY ARE JUST THAT...ONLY ICONS. You could move on to bigger and better things like skinning the hell out of the hd2 interface and make a full on anastasia theme which everyone loves!
That said, DInik, thank you for your icons, You should be flattered that everyone wants to copy you. ANyway, I hope you change your mind after you have cooled off. This is the most drama I have seen in this forum for icons.
PEACE!
Thanks for the icons, looks great to have a complete Games folder. CBA about whos is who, its not like he copied your icons, he just made the missing ones, right?
If i had any idea how to use Photoshop i would have done this long ago. Sucks to not being able to get your requests done. And yes, i know you have alot to do, so agian, thanks for helping Dinik out with the requests
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Firstly, I have removed the ink from 'your' thread, that was insensitive of me, I apologise. Although somebody has quoted the link in their pointing out my error!!
However, I have not set out to try to out do you, or rip you off. Simply to help people fill in a few gaps in their icon sets.
Your icon set is really nice. Nice one for sharing your work with us all. There was a long wait for the second icon pack, but everyone was patient and when it came I think everyone was pleased... but I personally was only 90% satisfied with the contents (not in quality, but is the completeness of the set - quality was top stuff). You only have to read your own thread to see that there are quite a few people who have a few icons outstanding to 'complete' their icon sets for popular programs. (Personally I think it is impossible to 'complete' a set as there will always be an icon that somebody still wants.) People still seem to post on there almost daily to request something...
You make it quite clear how you are a busy man, I can completely understand as I wouldn't have time to 'do all that you do', as a hobby (or do you make living out of this...?). I have waited and waited for the next update but you seem tied up in other things, which also look quite nice too. So I decided to complete my own set of your famous style of icon.
I wouldn't know where to start with the other things you do, or that a lot of the people on this forum get up to, it does impress me. Actually, I'm a little bit hooked on browsing this forum because of the things people are doing with their phones. I wouldn't want to criticise or negatively comment on anyone's hard work as most of it is beyond my capabilities. Likewise I don't like the way some people keep on requesting things, whether it is an icon, an app or something of the like, and sometimes they seem to do it impatiently. I had requested on your thread, but maybe you only do icons for your friends, but I will not repost and insist on you doing them for me.
No, instead I thought I'd have a go at completing your icon set myself, and as I could see that a lot of other people were missing the odd icon or few, I thought I'd try and help them complete their set too by posting a half decent template (maybe until your next set comes out when they can change them back to your icons, but their choice).
Anyway, this way people don't have to wait (if they don't want to), and the odd program that might not ever get an official icon can be created as required and still match the set.
As for you removing all of your recent projects from the forum and making me look like I am ripping you off - please, I am not doing this at all. I don't want credit for creating this template, I do not ask for donations, I don't really want to do requests either. I just wanted to help a few people to make their phones look nice and tidy.
It would be good for the forum if you could reactivate your posts. 'People like me' really can't get near people like you when it comes to knowledge of doing all of this stuff, the best I can do is crop a couple of images in Photoshop and share my effort with people. I am a taker without the knowledge/time/ability to give much back.
I think you are over reacting somewhat with your actions (I won't say that you are being childish, but some might). I am a bit surprised at how you handled this. I would encourage you to keep up the good work, it is interesting to see yours and others developments, and with all the time you have spent doing all of that it would be a bit of a waste of time.
Lastly, I apologise to everyone who this has effected, in the other posts being taken down. What can I say - I was just trying to help...
@nniicckkss and others
you might think that im over reacting....or that my distinction is to hard...but...i was hard working on all my projects...not only for me...for all you here...and many of you using something from me...most of the roms using my icons or sliders. only my 1st hd2 iconset was downloaded over 10.000dls...and by the way i was working on new projects and planing to do much more for all you here!
i think im doing much for all of you here...so why the hell you dont accept my wishes?! if i post some rules...and the rules are fair enough...why you dont follow them...why you breaking them...it was not for funn to post the rules.
Many romcookers asking me to use something from me...and i never ever said no to anyone...because they asking me and follow some simple and fair rules.
do you think i have no rights as an artists? do you really think if i do something...im ok with that if somebody do with my work whatever he wants? if it where so...i would write it down...by telling that my works a free stokes.
@nniicckkss...did you asked me if im all right with that...did you asked me...hey dinik...could i post a template for your icons...no you dont...because you dont respect other creators wishes...even now...you didnt removed your zp files...i have spent countless hoers...to make many people happy...this is not my work...and i dont get rich from that...the only think what i want...is to show me respect...and follow some simple rules of me.
but as you and some others thinks...that i wonting to much...i cant go on with that.
@nniicckkss Remove your riped files
@admins start response on my messages...and give your statement to this...if its ok for xda...then im in the wrong forum...and go away for ever...because i as artist...want to have some simple rights!
guys...i rely like this community...but dont forget...you cant always only take and dont give anything back...i worked hard...to try giving you all something great...and i was asking nothing much...think about it
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Lastly, I apologise to everyone who this has effected, in the other posts being taken down. What can I say - I was just trying to help...
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Congratulations for not asking Dinik in the first place and not being patient enough to let him do his own work in his own time. One icon not skinned as the rest doesnt mean "he's busy, so ill make a DIY icon so anyone can knock off his style"
All you had to do was ask, and respect his wishes, but now you have ruined it for everyone. To all those who think hes over reacting, well you have obviously never had any personal work stolen and or used / modified for someone elses benefit.
If you did actually mean the apology, then you would take down this thread and then think about why hes pissed so much.
Congratulations for not asking Dinik in the first place and not being patient enough to let him do his own work in his own time. One icon not skinned as the rest doesnt mean "he's busy, so ill make a DIY icon so anyone can knock off his style"
All you had to do was ask, and respect his wishes, but now you have ruined it for everyone. To all those who think hes over reacting, well you have obviously never had any personal work stolen and or used / modified for someone elses benefit.
If you did actually mean the apology, then you would take down this thread and then think about why hes pissed so much.
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thx mate..i just gave up my hopes...to find someone who understands me...and dont think that im crazy
i just dont understand where the admins are...there are here to solve things like that...to push the community the right way...but no...nothing happens...as i said earlier...im writing them since more then a week...without any response
WTF; really?
I call BS on diniks (especially in light of the earlier fracus with DJC)! Yes sir, this is childish behaviour! I almost always stray away from these kind of altercations on XDA, but for this, I want my opinion heard...
@Dinik: Your icon set and theme is superb (THE best IMO, and MOSTLY more complete than others), but maybe so much that it's gone to your head... This isn't a contest!
I also am forced to believe that nniicckkss ALSO LOVES your Anastasia theming and icons, as he's gone to the lengths to do his best to recreate your work to finish theming his phone in your style, am I wrong here?
You're a busy man, self-exclaimed. I have many icons that you have not done yet; and let's be honest, if I'm the only one requesting icon 'A' or icon 'B', are you really going to get around to it, just for ME? I want a FULL theme, not something half-arsed!
I was already fiddling around with Photoshop myself when I came across nniicckkss post; saved me some time, I tell you (and if I wasn't so busy outside of my ORD, I prolly woulda' posted a template too!)! All he did was add some eye-candy to my phone, which was already themed in Anastasia...
Let's get to the heart of the matter: Did nniicckkss 'steal' from you? NO!: He emphatically proclaimed on his first post that it was only about 95% of what you've done. He also stated the (what I knew to be the case at the time, but is only now coming to light) obvious fact that you wouldn't like what he had done... Claiming no credit for your original work (I mean, quite obviously it was you he was referring to), he tried to help out a few others, like me, to have a full icon set.
Let's get to the 'legal' heart of it, shall we:
"02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)"
"03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)"
What is meant by "modify"? Legally, it means taking an ORIGINAL, which you have never posted, and tweaking it. What nniicckkss has done is essentially this: a complete reworking from scratch, based on the same software you also (I assume) use! What that means is, he CREATED it himself!!! You can 'thank' Photoshop for that if you're so inclined...
If I sketch out the Mona Lisa in a notepad, scan it, and post it to the webz as a desktop background: Have I stolen from DaVinci??? Think not... Have I maybe brightened someone's day? Doubtful on that account (I'm a horrible sketch-artist), but you never know... Maybe somewhere in the world there's a desktop background (other than mine???) that has a lousy Mona Lisa sketch!
Lastly: it's not as if he was competing with you at all (not a contest, remember?); he stated 'no requests' and NEVER asked for donations ($$$), right off the bat!
I LOVE XDA, and I hope the admin's see 'right' in this one...
@nniicckkss: Chin up, brah! Regardless, I have my(your) template saved, and if dinik feels he should remove his work from online, then I'll use yours solely!
Okay, /rant ...
Completely Agreed !!!
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I call BS on diniks (especially in light of the earlier fracus with DJC)! Yes sir, this is childish behaviour! I almost always stray away from these kind of altercations on XDA, but for this, I want my opinion heard...
@Dinik: Your icon set and theme is superb (THE best IMO, and MOSTLY more complete than others), but maybe so much that it's gone to your head... This isn't a contest!
I also am forced to believe that nniicckkss ALSO LOVES your Anastasia theming and icons, as he's gone to the lengths to do his best to recreate your work to finish theming his phone in your style, am I wrong here?
You're a busy man, self-exclaimed. I have many icons that you have not done yet; and let's be honest, if I'm the only one requesting icon 'A' or icon 'B', are you really going to get around to it, just for ME? I want a FULL theme, not something half-arsed!
I was already fiddling around with Photoshop myself when I came across nniicckkss post; saved me some time, I tell you (and if I wasn't so busy outside of my ORD, I prolly woulda' posted a template too!)! All he did was add some eye-candy to my phone, which was already themed in Anastasia...
Let's get to the heart of the matter: Did nniicckkss 'steal' from you? NO!: He emphatically proclaimed on his first post that it was only about 95% of what you've done. He also stated the (what I knew to be the case at the time, but is only now coming to light) obvious fact that you wouldn't like what he had done... Claiming no credit for your original work (I mean, quite obviously it was you he was referring to), he tried to help out a few others, like me, to have a full icon set.
Let's get to the 'legal' heart of it, shall we:
"02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)"
"03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)"
What is meant by "modify"? Legally, it means taking an ORIGINAL, which you have never posted, and tweaking it. What nniicckkss has done is essentially this: a complete reworking from scratch, based on the same software you also (I assume) use! What that means is, he CREATED it himself!!! You can 'thank' Photoshop for that if you're so inclined...
If I sketch out the Mona Lisa in a notepad, scan it, and post it to the webz as a desktop background: Have I stolen from DaVinci??? Think not... Have I maybe (I'm a horrible sketch-artist) brightened someone's day? Doubtful on that account, but you never know... Maybe somewhere in the world there's a desktop background (other than mine???) that has a lousy Mona Lisa sketch!
Lastly: it's not as if he was competing with you at all (not a contest, remember?); he stated 'no requests' and NEVER asked for donations ($$$), right off the bat!
I LOVE XDA, and I hope the admin's see 'right' in this one...
@nniicckkss: Chin up, brah! Regardless, I have my template saved, and if dinik feels he should remove his work from online, then I'll use yours solely!
Okay, /rant ...
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Need I say more ??? I completely agree with you ... I myself have no skills in photoshop or any other Winmo/Manila skinning (I am in to complete different field) ..however I want my phone to have the best look possible ...
AFAIK so many people requested a blank template from Dinik, to cover up the missing icons till he is done with his busy schedule but never fulfilled... I do understand the way Dinik feels but same time I want to have a complete theme in my mobile.
@nniicckkss, because of you I manage to get some of my uncommon icons done. Thanks a lot mate ...
@Dinik, chill out man..everybody respect you as an artist & believe me I do understand your feelings .. However everybody expect to have a complete theme rather than a half baked one including all the uncommon icons, which I think impossible to cater ... Anyway all the best with your work mate ... but keep in mind if you do not share or if nobody uses your work, the value of your countless hours and your value as an artist will be waisted & gone forever..
All the best mates ....
dhanu1978shka14 said:
AFAIK so many people requested a blank template from Dinik, to cover up the missing icons till he is done with his busy schedule but never fulfilled... I do understand the way Dinik feels but same time I want to have a complete theme in my mobile.
@nniicckkss, because of you I manage to get some of my uncommon icons done. Thanks a lot mate ...
@Dinik, chill out man..everybody respect you as an artist & believe me I do understand your feelings .. However everybody expect to have a complete theme rather than a half baked one including all the uncommon icons, which I think impossible to cater ... Anyway all the best with your work mate ... but keep in mind if you do not share or if nobody uses your work, the value of your countless hours and your value as an artist will be waisted & gone forever..
All the best mates ....
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YES, we are in COMPLETE agreement!
Hi,
This is the first time for me to post a Request, and since my Samsung Intrepid isn't on the list below, I'm posting here. I hope it's not out of order, if it is, then Admin please do not delete, but just move it to the appropriate place and email me as to new location.
I'm running Titanium, and one thing I've been looking for high and low, on this and other forums, is an app that allows me to put the day of the week, in addition to time & date on the taskbar.
Haven't found one yet, which is surprising. Anyone know of one that'd work on Titanium WM 6.5, or can create one?
I'd also like to be able to put the day of the week on the cclock panel on the Today screen, or else have a separate panel that shows time, date, day of week.
Now, I know you can alter the .cpr file, BUT unfortunately I'm not a developer, and don't know what to put in the Titanium xxxx.cpr's at the various resolutions. Also, I'm rather nervous about experimenting here, since these files are in the ROM, and if I screw up my phone in the process, my warranty may be voided.
So, to make a long story short, I'd just like to be able to install another panel, or whatever, something like a Titanium plugin, like notifications, that I can install/uninstall w/o touching the ROM.
Again, I'm rather surprised there isn't anything like these apps to place the day of the week on the taskbar & Today screen. And leave it to MSFT to leave something like this out, ESP since they had it for the previous WM OS's. 8(
Well, that's why I'm posting here. The Xda forum is an invaluable resource, and I've learned a lot lurking and reading thru some of the incredibly long threads.
Any help for my 2 requests would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
No response?
I'm surprised there isn't any response or interest.
Well, I found battclock, Zuinige's excellent program, to take care of the day on
the taskbar, but nothing for on the Titanium Today screen.
There is canalog clock, but it's way too big fot my blackberry sized screen on my wm samsung intrepid.
I was hoping someone would have some suggestions, or maybe develop a cclock panel alternative not as huge as canalog, or digital like cclock with thday and date thrown in.
I found coding suggestions for modifying the titanium.cpr, but they're all different and 2 are for the Hero, so that's a deadend.
I know there are a lot of developers on this board; I'm just surprised no one's come up with an "enhanced" cclock.
Anyway, just a request, if anyone'd care to help. Thanks
I have been programming with Java for about 6 years now. I am currently getting my masters in college for Computer Science (Programming).
I just finished reading the book Hello, Android by Ed Burnette. It was a pretty good book I must say and got me on my feet towards developing for an Android device. For those who do not know the book, each chapter you gradually build a Sudoku game. In the later chapters it discusses some openGL, sound, video. Overall the game is pointless and a waiste.
I never really liked game programming, I wish to do something such as tools, or a feature. However I have hit a roadblock and do not know where to go from here or what to read. I get the structure of the app, the XML setups, etc but the book did not give me a good enough background on the Android System for what I would like to do.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help in advanced.
Travmanx I think the way to go from here is use your Java experience to assist in unlocking these phones. I know these guys that are doing the hard work would appreciate all the help they can get.
ZC
I'm very new to android programming too and I agree there does seem to be a big gap in going from the usual tutorials and guides to really getting your feet wet and digging into proper coding.
I think the key here is to think of a simple idea and start to program it, by choosing something simple you can get the basics working quickly, while still giving you room to experiment further with extra features and improvements later on (where the real learning happens).
As to what idea... that is more difficult, I would suggest you do something which you will use so that you've got a drive to keep working on it and improve it.
i.e. If you travel, then a quick currency converter could be useful...if you play tennis then perhaps a score board...it doesn't matter much as long as the incentive is there to code it.
Look forward to hear what you decide to write!
hello there
I would suggest you do something which you will use so that you've got a drive to keep working on it and improve it
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first of all +10 for ^ meltwater
i did an app to (scoreboard) for a card game, instead of using paper and pen.
then:
i am a Java Developer to,
and recently started doing some android apps
i already have 2 of them in the market...
i am just like you, don't like to do games, i prefer tools and other staff...
however, my point is, whenever you can build an app whatever it is,... all you need now is an idea
try to find an idea and start developing it, and on every problem you face try to dig and fix it, then continue on ur main target... otherwise i don't see any advantage of reading more books, because you have to find something to do, then try to find how to do it (based on your input with 6 years java dev)
otherwise i think you will get lost.
my opinion, find an idea and start with it, then fix every block you face.
Good Luck
So I have thought about this for a long time. There are some great custom roms/mods/hacks out there. But even they can lack features or have features you don't want.
I mean like choosing individual options that show up in the settings menu, etc...
Isn't it possible to have some source code that contains all the features of all the roms, and have an application that you use to design your own custom version of that rom. Say I want to fix my homescreen to have 4 screens and each screen to have its own background image... If we could just hardwire that capability into the OS via a custom designer/compiler off the source code, and flash it to the phone, that would be awesome...
Maybe that is asking a bit too much, but it seems possible. Although I am on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to coding and modding, so I may just have no idea what I'm talking about. Maybe there are others out there who have thought of this, or are working on it, or maybe it already exists, but anyway... Just an idea...
Kinda hard with all these different devices and UIs, making compatibility an issue.
Ummm there is an app that lets you have different wallpapers for each home screen
ya... I mean it would have to be restricted to certain devices or something... but i dunno... just a thought.
If only every phone company only released 1 or 2 models.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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So I have thought about this for a long time. There are some great custom roms/mods/hacks out there. But even they can lack features or have features you don't want.
I mean like choosing individual options that show up in the settings menu, etc...
Isn't it possible to have some source code that contains all the features of all the roms, and have an application that you use to design your own custom version of that rom. Say I want to fix my homescreen to have 4 screens and each screen to have its own background image... If we could just hardwire that capability into the OS via a custom designer/compiler off the source code, and flash it to the phone, that would be awesome...
Maybe that is asking a bit too much, but it seems possible. Although I am on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to coding and modding, so I may just have no idea what I'm talking about. Maybe there are others out there who have thought of this, or are working on it, or maybe it already exists, but anyway... Just an idea...
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I completely understand what you are trying to achieve over here. But there are various factors in place. You are trying to make a kitchen more advance so we can fully customize it but it is not possible with the number of device that are out there and the number of processors. Its not impossible but quite hard to achieve
I am very pleased with the thought and don’t feel like adding anything in it. It a perfect answer.
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I am very pleased with the thought and don’t feel like adding anything in it. It a perfect answer.
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Which answer.....?
Android with a WebOS UI=Better than Sense.
that's a good idea actually.
Well, I mean, start with one phone model on a specific carrier that is very popular among developers and general users. If a large number of people who work on mods/roms and other customizations got together... then they could probably whip up something.
But, yeah... doing it for a large number of phones would be very difficult...
but starting off simply, could slowly add in features, or a select your phone and carrier type thing...
In other words, an xda phone. Well gluck rounding up the devs to a particular phone.
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Great
Thank you for your work
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In other words, an xda phone. Well gluck rounding up the devs to a particular phone.
$1 gets you a reply
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So everyone should get an HD2?
that's a good idea actually.
I really would like to see a newer HD2 like device. I mean like the phone that runs everything. but those come with time they aren't made that way
It's not impossible. I mean it would take a lot of time to complete but you could do it device by device. First you achieve the idea within 1 device. Combine all the roms and put features together and maybe if you add a UI to the application End Users can pick the features they want and tailor their own rom. Developers instead of updating roms they'd add new features to the application. After that you could combine phone's from the same company. Like the Sony X10 & X8. They're not that different and porting won't too hard. And then eventually you get to a General app. Some phones have some features other don't but it'd be just like Market. Some apps are compatible with your phone some aren't. It's a good idea~
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That's a good idea actually.
What about a GUI rom "cooker"? Devs build their standard roms, but let the end users crunch them through a GUI that lets the users filter what little things they want or dont want to keep in the rom. GUI then repackages it and then we flash it.
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What about a GUI rom "cooker"? Devs build their standard roms, but let the end users crunch them through a GUI that lets the users filter what little things they want or dont want to keep in the rom. GUI then repackages it and then we flash it.
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Ya, thats pretty much what i mean. So you can choose what options show up in the settings menu, completely customize the power/lock button menu and actions, etc...it seems like it should be possible. Just take a highly customized rom and create an intetface to remove features and compile it. It could all be done in the cloud and notify you when its ready for dl.