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So, with all this talk of over clocked/undervolt kernals, smartass gov, setcpu, and juicedefender, I was wondering what the definitive way to optimize battery is (without doing a bump charge).
I dont need any crazy quadrant scores or anything. I just need a phone that can play the occasional game here and there, surf the web, and text message; all while being lag free.
I have done all the "normal" battery savings like turning off 4g (live in 3g only area anyways), backlight lowered, no live wallpaper, ect. My question is what is the "best" method for squeezing out the most juice?
I know there are MANY opinions as to what the best is, but I thought I would poll the masses here and get their 2 cents on the subject.
Well, I pay attention to my current widget. There's certain areas where battery drain is a problem with mobile data turned on. I turn off mobile data when I'm in those areas. Being mindful of that has been the #1 battery saver for me. In fact, I even run with automatic brightness instead of a very low brightness setting and I get better battery life now than before.
I seem to get better battery on lower, mainly because when I do auto, it goes full blast most of the time, and likes to switch about 20 times from high to low while im texting.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.) works best. I know kernals seem to give better performance and battery to some, but I read some of the kernal builds have some hiccups still.
Just wondering what you guys have found is best and most stable of the "detailed" methods.
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I seem to get better battery on lower
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Of course, I do as well. I was just saying that turning off mobile data in the areas that tend to cause my phone to draw 700+mA saves a significant more amount of power than turning the screen to low.
I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.)
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Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
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I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
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I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
Zshazz said:
Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
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Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
hehe...
This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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Never mind. I guess the thread title was fine "battery optimization". But those gas/hybrid nerds (like me) love using the term hypermiling.
I like using setcpu profiles or custom kernels
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Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
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6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
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This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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Battery optimization is just a term I figured work, but hypermiling sounds pretty sexy Increases your battery mileage of course!
I'm using Superpower to disable data connection when the screen off. Seems to be working well.
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6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
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Never game, 2 gmail accounts, fb few times a day, no twitter, net 2-3 times a day. This is stock sense on the phone though. Thats why I was looking into the dif roms to see what battery life was like with dif kernel on it. I will prob root and toss a rom on there to see if it gets me better life (which im sure it will), but considering waiting until the 16th (rumor out that fairly big update coming and want to see if that may help at all).
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I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
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Tutorial on Tasker CPU profiles can be found here
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NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
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This really is the best way to save battery at the moment.
I made my battery last the whole day after I installed Automatic Task Killer from the market. It kills selected processes as long as the screen is off. I get home after 9 hours at work and I still have ~40% battery left. Before I installed Automatic Task Killer my TB was dead after 9 hours.
There is so much random bloatware on the TB from vzw that it eats the battery fast. I just need to root I had a Eris on a custom ROM before the TB and I could go 2 days easy without a charge.
This seems to be a fix for the time being. Too bad there is no way for developers to make a one click root like on the Eris. I will have to bite the bullet and do it the old fashioned way.
Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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and what is suppose to happen with this update?
I use an app called System Panel that's got all kinds of nifty information available to the curious.
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Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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They are all just rumors (like any other update/upgrade "news") but...
http://htcsource.com/2011/03/rumour-htc-thunderbolt-to-get-gingerbread-update-in-q2-2011/
http://technology.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979166628
http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/2011/03/27/htc-thunderbolt-getting-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-in-q2/
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-getting-gingerbread-by-summer-20110326/
Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.
im having issue with my battery life can anybody give me any advice??
Can you elaborate on what kind of battery life you are getting, what kind of usage, and types of activities like bluetooth, wifi, gps usage etc.. Also, let us know if your stock, or custom rom with custom kernel etc..
I just posted some suggestions in another thread, follow link below and read my suggestions on 3rd post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339479
This is a good place to start. In general though you should be disabling radio's and features that you don't need. Think of it in terms of how you conserve, or should be conserving energy at home. You probably have about a hundred different appliances or light switches that you can turn on at home.. but just because you have them all doesn't mean they should all be on at once! ;-)
i am running the ROM 2.3.5Doctorz RomV8.1 with an infusion 1.1 kernal and i moderatley use my phone and am seeing the battery life of some other people and mines just doesn't compare
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i am running the ROM 2.3.5Doctorz RomV8.1 with an infusion 1.1 kernal and i moderatley use my phone and am seeing the battery life of some other people and mines just doesn't compare
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Things you can try!
Download CPUSpy from the Market. Check to see if your phone is even going into a deep sleep, If you notice heavy cpu usage then you need to find out exactly which app is causing it and delete it. Widgits and other gizmos that eat ram will also cause bad battery life, try turning sync off, turn data off if your not using it, turn GPS off if your not using it. If you just installed that rom, you need to give it a few days of charge and discharging it completely before the battery can settle in and give you accurate results.
Edit: JuiceDefender is not an option, Recently deleted it to see that I gained back 2% battery after unistalling. Goes to show you battery saver apps don't work.
I had the same issue with mine as well... Charged completely last night before going to bed disabled wifi gps bt etc... Woke up this morning with 38%... I was blown away.... Since have odin back to till i get home to mess with it.... I know everyone has there oww personal preference and i respect that... You have aby suggestions on rom "with working bt", kernal, modem etc... And tweaks/ non tweeks that will get good use?
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Well my experience is Juice defender works very well...especially if you understand how it works and what it is doing. But in your case you are probably have other unrelated issues.
Cpuspy might point you in the right direction but it could be as simple as looking at your settings: applications : running and see if any are continuously "restarting". On new roms I typically see what's running (i.e. sns is problem app for myself) and if I don't like it then use TitaniumBackup to freeze the apps. That combined with juice significantly increases my Infuse's battery life on the various ROMs I've used.
I'm running the original stock Froyo 2.2 UCKH1, I've been on battery for 1day and 17 hours before going dead. Check your apps, check cpu usage. Otherwise you got a bad battery.
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okay so i downloaded cpu spy and i seen that my phone was running at 1.2 ghz most of the time so i set up voltage control to conservative and I saw a big difference and i un installed my task manager
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okay so i downloaded cpu spy and i seen that my phone was running at 1.2 ghz most of the time so i set up voltage control to conservative and I saw a big difference and i un installed my task manager
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Glad your getting things straightened out, Check out an app called Android Assistant from the Market. Gives a lot of details about your battery, what processes are running and allows you to kill them, also allows certain apps not to run when you boot the phone, cleans cache and history, allows you to move apps to SD, it's got a bunch of tools you may find useful and best of all its free and uses absolutely no battery as for it doesn't run as a service or hang in the background.
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Glad your getting things straightened out, Check out an app called Android Assistant from the Market. Gives a lot of details about your battery, what processes are running and allows you to kill them, also allows certain apps not to run when you boot the phone, cleans cache and history, allows you to move apps to SD, it's got a bunch of tools you may find useful and best of all its free and uses absolutely no battery as for it doesn't run as a service or hang in the background.
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i just have one lil problem whenever i set my govenor to conservative and save it as save on boot it want save always says on demand when i reboot
xjeffx said:
i just have one lil problem whenever i set my govenor to conservative and save it as save on boot it want save always says on demand when i reboot
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Are you sure it's not a kernel issue?
I want to share my setup with you guys for getting good battery life which lasts the day without making you compromise on the features. The primary things I've seen on the forums so far has a lot of involved setup and frankly by the time you get it perfect, you will flash a new ROM and have to re-do a lot of it and so on, overall it's not the worth the hassle.
This is usually what my days look like and I manage to last the entire day:
I keep wifi and GPS on always, regardless of whether I'm using it or not.
Get a fair bit of calls because I live away from family so they all call a lot (I have a massive family, so we are talking about 5-6 hrs of talking everyday).
I like to read news from news republic and I'm subscribed to a lot of stuff there so I go through like 2000+ articles in a given day.
XDA like every few hrs (damn ICS!).
Text messages are also flowing throughout the day with the woman being on the other side of the country and all (100+ a day?).
I have facebook on push (not an addict but active enough to mention)
My gmail, school and exchange are all on push for email so they I see a fair bit there
The setup is VERY easy to setup and replicate. It doesn't require you to lose out on features or use your phone at an anorexic level either. You don't need a task manager or watch your processor non-stop either.
So without further delay, here we go:
Pick a ROM
I'm using Seanster_GBaxe EX v1.5.1 from the T-Mobile section, you can find it here.
Get faux's kernel
The reason for this particular one is because it's given the best results when it comes to undervolting and overclocking without SOD. You can find the kernel here.
Get System Tuner
This is available on market. There are alternatives but for this post, I will be making all the references from this app.
Get the AGPS patch from crypted
This isn't for battery directly but it does get locks VERY fast and you waste less clock cycles getting the signal. Less clock cycles wasted, more battery saved. The patch is available here.
I personally use the v3.0 Google CWM Build (scroll down his post and you will see it)
Get the V6 SUPERCHARGER from zeppelinrox
This is available here. Why the beta one? It works fine.
Okay, at this point you can pretty much store these things together in a neat little folder on your SD card because it makes a perfect library. So let's get started, I'll assume that we are starting from scratch. The order for everything will be as follows:
Get into recovery and install your ROM
This I shouldn't have to explain, the instructions you can find on the ROM thread.
Install the kernel
Same with this, read the kernel thread.
Install the GPS patch
Same with this as well
Boot into ROM
Hmm.... hopefully you can manage this
Restore all your backups and apps, accounts and whatever else
Using titanium here is always good
Install System Tuner
Okay, let's get started. Although faux has done an amazing job with the kernel, there's always the personal bias that goes into making things so his balanced settings might not reflect yours (nor mine but you will be tweak even those soon).
Inside System Tuner, go to CPU:
The first you thing you should choose is whether you want to keep the 1.72 GHz OC or not. I kept it but if you want to get even more you can lower to stock 1.56 GHz or go even lower, your choice. Once you set the max, set the min to 384 MHz. Set it once and you don't need to do it again after. Leave the governer to ONDEMAND.
Now go to the Voltage tab:
Be careful here, this can crash you if you go too far. What we do here is globally undervolt, you can do that by hitting the -12.5 mV button over and over. I use -75 mV (press the button 6 times, for those bad at math). Keep in mind that all chips are NOT THE SAME!!! -75 mV might be too much for you or you might even be able to get to -100 mV, find out by doing it.
Now go back to the CPU tab and hit Boot Settings:
Hit Screen-off behavior:
Governor - No changes
Max frequency - 384 MHz (push doesn't lag at all still so don't worry about notifications)
Max frequency/in call - 384 MHz (yes, calls don't require full blast, they work fine even under 500 MHz)
Now go back
Hit Governors behavior:
Sampling rate - Unchanged (faux has it done perfect)
Up-threshold - 75 (what's this? This means that the CPU will scale to higher frequencies when the load is above 75%)
Power-save Bias - 70 (what's this? This means that the CPU will be "biased" towards lower frequencies when load is below 70%)
Setting the Power-save Bias higher than the Up-threshold is obviously stupid so make sure you did it right.
Now go back
At the bottom, there is a whole bunch of tweaks:
Hit Re-apply CPU settings, choose init.d script (you can choose boot too but init.d works 100% of the time)
Hit Boost app loading, choose init.d
Hit Clear cache, choose init.d
Now go back
Find the Startups section and disable whatever you don't want running at boot (this is purely a personal thing).
Install V6 script
His instructions are very good so I'll assume that you have gotten it installed. Once you have it running, choose option 9, the 1000 HP one. Reboot. Run script again, make sure you've got it at 100% supercharged. Done. Reboot just to be sure again.
All done! Now, I know that was lengthy but here's the awesome part. Make a titanium full backup of System Tuner and you NEVER have to do that again for ANY ROM as long as you use the same kernel!! The script is unfortunately the only thing you have to re-apply, probably that has a quick setup too but I'm new to it so I can't give you shortcuts on it.
Hope you have luck with this and it works for you. I promise nothing and if you break your phone please don't come crying to me because you chose to do this yourself. It works for me so I shared it!! Any suggestions are welcome of course.
Note: NO task manager required!! I will modify this for cm7 if needed.
nice job. thanks a lot!
You're using the rc6.1 correct?
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Thanks for the detailed write-up.
Are you in an LTE market? A full day on LTE would be pretty awesome.
For the screen-off behavior, do you think one can get away with using the smartass governor instead?
I'm using the RC6, tad older I guess.
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jedah said:
Thanks for the detailed write-up.
Are you in an LTE market? A full day on LTE would be pretty awesome.
For the screen-off behavior, do you think one can get away with using the smartass governor instead?
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I'm not in LTE area :-(... Would be nice because that's why I got the phone but then I had to move so can't say anything about LTE.
As for smartass, what kernel are you using? Smartass works very similar to the modified ondemand settings that I set up so it wouldn't make a difference as far as I forsee.
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I tried this, will post results later. Thanks for the great tutorial
If you could post screen shots of your CPU Spy that would be helpful! How well does your phone do on going into deep sleep? On average from what to what time does yours last you? I'm just skeptical about setting the screen off behavior cause that usually prevents the phone from going to Deep Sleep.
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If you could post screen shots of your CPU Spy that would be helpful! How well does your phone do on going into deep sleep? On average from what to what time does yours last you? I'm just skeptical about setting the screen off behavior cause that usually prevents the phone from going to Deep Sleep.
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You're right about the deep sleep, don't let it go into deep sleep. It lasts me 12 hours normally. I'll get you screenshots when I get a chance.
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Mine goes into deep sleep with screen off behavior setup.
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You're right about the deep sleep, don't let it go into deep sleep. It lasts me 12 hours normally. I'll get you screenshots when I get a chance.
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Dont you think the phone waste alot more battery though when it doesn't go into deep sleep? I've also found that WiFi tends to create a nasty wake lock. My set up is Sky ICS Speed with Faux Clock 1.296 ghz max -384 mhz min. -37.5 u/v LTE on all day, extremely heavy usage. 12 hour battery life on average.
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InstigatorX said:
Mine goes into deep sleep with screen off behavior setup.
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Which kernel are you using?
kr3w1337 said:
Which kernel are you using?
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Using faux kernel with foxstar rom.
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DANIEL133337 said:
Dont you think the phone waste alot more battery though when it doesn't go into deep sleep? I've also found that WiFi tends to create a nasty wake lock. My set up is Sky ICS Speed with Faux Clock 1.296 ghz max -384 mhz min. -37.5 u/v LTE on all day, extremely heavy usage. 12 hour battery life on average.
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From what I've noticed with the faux kernel, it goes into deep sleep after some time on it's own, regardless of the screen-off behavior. I haven't opened up the source to check it out for a better explanation but that's something I doubt is worth exploring since the performance doesn't take any hit.
I haven't chosen to underclock to 1.2 but it should do better than the 12 hrs I get now if I did do that. I have a tendency to start GTA 3 and start playing whenever I get bored so that's why I went OC rather than under. For others looking strictly to use the phone with minimal gaming, this would be a good option. LTE isn't available in my area so I can't test with it but the WiFi radio uses just as much battery as the LTE, if not more I have a feeling.
Trying eugene's kernel from today to see if the lionheart governor does better than the current setup. I will know in a couple of days because every ROM flash needs a couple of charge cycles before it accurately shows battery status.
InstigatorX said:
Using faux kernel with foxstar rom.
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Do you get any SOD? Everything working okay? Is the setup different than what I've got up there? Would like to know and try it out, can update the OP accordingly.
Just finished with eugene's kernel and the results were pretty disappointing. Looks like the second core is always kept on regardless, faux's kernel turns the second core offline until usage demands need it.
If anyone knows how to tweak eugene's to stop that from happening, do share.
kr3w1337 said:
Just finished with eugene's kernel and the results were pretty disappointing. Looks like the second core is always kept on regardless, faux's kernel turns the second core offline until usage demands need it.
If anyone knows how to tweak eugene's to stop that from happening, do share.
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Can you clue me location of his latest ROM? Or is it somewhere in the Macnut thread on TMO side of the fence?
InstigatorX said:
Can you clue me location of his latest ROM? Or is it somewhere in the Macnut thread on TMO side of the fence?
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Using darkside ROM at the moment with the faux kernel, had the Eugene kernel but I noticed that the second core is kept alive regardless of usage and that wasn't helping so I changed back to faux.
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thanks for the awesome write up!
Did it last night, and lasted the day without a sweat! However, my min frequency wont stick? I have it set to stock frequency 1.5, using faux kernal, and my voltages arent as low as yours (im not a crazy user like you.. maybe an hour of talking a day, lots of texts and emails tho), but i cannot get my min frequency of 3xx to stay. Suggestions?
Thanks!
edit- running stockMod v1.0
im sorry, i have a hard time believing you talk for 6 hours and scroll thry 2000 pages of web and get a day of use. I myself could get about 1.5 days on battery strictly by staying home, connected to wifi all day and barely talking on the phone. i would like to see a screenshot of battery usage at the end of your day
So i just got a deal for a cheap Sensation and decided to give it a try. After a few days, i really like the Sense UI + ICS but find the battery is pretty bad compare to my GS2.
The Sensation drains about 8% overnight while the gs2 drains 2-3% overnight, both with nothing on. When playing music (doing nothing else,screen off) the battery drains a whopping 5%/h. while i dont think the gs2 would drain more than 1%/h just playing music. I thought the battery life on both phones should be more or less the same given the same specs and battery capacity (1650 vs 1520).
To be more specific, my ROM is ARHD 6.5.0 ICS, i havent installed any new app yet, i have the follwing widgets on : email, messages, weather, contact, task, music. I'm not sure if the drainage is coming from those widgets.
One more question, is there any way to quickly change brightness ? (like sliding the status bar as with the gs2). Auto brightness may be draining more battery but going through setting->display->brightness every single time is painful.
Any tips would be appreciated. Thank you.
download just defence i got a good result of it underclock your phone a bit to
Is there a kernel that allows undervolting which is fully compatible with ARHD6 ICS ?
dullahan263 said:
Is there a kernel that allows undervolting which is fully compatible with ARHD6 ICS ?
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something like this should do im not sure havent seen any other kernel for sensetion 3.32 base UV'ed
Juice Defender is a good option to test out, even using default settings it's pretty good with helping battery usage/drain.
Otherwise ARHD is using Sebastian's kernel at this point and you have the choice of using the 1.2 or OC'd 1.5 Ghz speed when flashing. If you're concerned you can use the 1.2 version or flash the 1.5 and just set the clock speed using something like SetCPU, available here on XDA, or System Tuner, from the Market.
As far as I know right now, the kernels are not allowing UV because the official source hasn't been released yet. Once source is released/obtained then things like UV and other deeper optimizations can be done by the awesome kernel developers here.
torumsie said:
Juice Defender is a good option to test out, even using default settings it's pretty good with helping battery usage/drain.
Otherwise ARHD is using Sebastian's kernel at this point and you have the choice of using the 1.2 or OC'd 1.5 Ghz speed when flashing. If you're concerned you can use the 1.2 version or flash the 1.5 and just set the clock speed using something like SetCPU, available here on XDA, or System Tuner, from the Market.
As far as I know right now, the kernels are not allowing UV because the official source hasn't been released yet. Once source is released/obtained then things like UV and other deeper optimizations can be done by the awesome kernel developers here.
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or you use a funny app called antutu cpu master and just UV yourself
Alienator9191 said:
or you use a funny app called antutu cpu master and just UV yourself
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Actually didn't realize it would do it, awesome and thank you!
I normally perform my UVing through System Tuner Pro, but the options are not available at this time, I just checked, so I didn't realize another app that also allowed UV would still allow it. See what I get for assuming...... lol
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&feature=search_result
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I'm actually looking at it right now and the others and thinking about getting the Smart Profiles app by AnTuTu, my Volume Control+ Pro has been giving me problems recently.
torumsie said:
I'm actually looking at it right now and the others and thinking about getting the Smart Profiles app by AnTuTu, my Volume Control+ Pro has been giving me problems recently.
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because its for sound boost only, idk what u seek but it wont handle your volume into time but just boost it, i also noticed it doesnt work on sense but will on nonsense roms
Battery problems absolutely solved with "3g off" widget, on the market. I don't need anything more than basic phone and sms for hours at a time so I just hit the widget. Takes a few seconds to sync latest mail when it comes back on but less time than that to just find a 4g link. Great when I'm at the ofc where my mail gets pushed to my laptop anyway.
Very useful also in a weak-signal area, stops drain due to signal-search.
Juice Defender is very good for battery life but this solution is even better although the widget does require manual intervention when the screen comes back up. I use both. Possibly JD paid app automates the whole process.
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Battery problems absolutely solved with "3g off" widget, on the market. I don't need anything more than basic phone and sms for hours at a time so I just hit the widget. Takes a few seconds to sync latest mail when it comes back on but less time than that to just find a 4g link. Great when I'm at the ofc where my mail gets pushed to my laptop anyway.
Very useful also in a weak-signal area, stops drain due to signal-search.
Juice Defender is very good for battery life but this solution is even better although the widget does require manual intervention when the screen comes back up. I use both. Possibly JD paid app automates the whole process.
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use at JD the data traffic enabler sets it of when u tik it
on again when u tik it then you can set the acc to push when u want it idk if jd does that to i think i did find it once