***Over the last 2 months, I have been through more issues with T-Mobile then just the issues from the software side. I have spent the majority of that time working with them to try and fix a data connectivity issue I was having. After hard resets, ROM update, and then a site survey, T-Mobile found that the area where I live does NOT have adequate enough coverage to competently supply data coverage to my phone. Notes from the tech said that towers were noted as needed but NO BUDGET was available to deploy a new tower in the area. Because of this, the account rep I spoke to immediately offered a full refund on my unsubsidized HD2 and a refund for all services rendered to-date, including accessories for the phone. As of last night, I left T-Mobile and joined AT&T with a 32gb iPhone in preperation for the upcoming 4G. I'll either trade it in if within 30 days, or give 3GS to wife and get a 4HD on a second line. I have been a Windows Mobile user for YEARS. I still love the HD2 and would never have gotten rid of it, except for the fact I know that AT&T's Edge bands are going away to make room for 3G, and I don't want issues of trying to run HD2 on AT&T's network. I want to stress how much I LOVED the HD2. To me, the phone had a lot of improvement needed, but for what MS and HTC had to work with, it was the best Windows Mobile phone to-date, IMHO. That being said, I have lots of friends with the iPhone, our company exclusively carries it, so I also got a nice discount. I've used one from a distance several times, but never really had one that was mine to really dig into. So far, I am REALLY happy with the phone. I'll jailbreak it and start tweaking it, just like I have my Windows Mobile phones for years, but it's something new for me to play with. =) So, with that being said, I am going to retire from this thread and anybody is more then welcome to take it over. Nibbley15 might be able to do this. I'm still need to get him setup with some software issues he was having, but baby and family haven't left me with a lot of time. Nibbley15, I haven't forgot about you, I just haven't been home to get things configured yet. I'll be in touch soon.
Thanks! ZIMMAY!***
Ok, I did a lot of playing with the registry this weekend to try and get the same TouchResponse in the new ROM as I had in the old. That has really been my only compaint about the ROM.
I have finished making a CAB. Use at your own risk. I played guine pig and did this myself with no ill effects.
Here are the reg keys that are changed:
Settings from HD2Tweak:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:000162f2
This is the setting that seems to help the most with being able to click/touch items on screen, especially the corners:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
Settings from HD2Tweak:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"FingerPressure"=dword:000249F0
"SpeedHigh"=dword:00000000
"SpeedLow"=dword:0000000e
I am still curious what the other settings that Nibbley15 found and how they relate.
***Update 5/21: Added cab to enable Screen options in System Settings to do a screen calibration.
***UPdate 5/22: Reg entry for new CAB is as follows:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\ControlPanel\Pen]
"Hide"=dword:00000000
zim2323 said:
Ok, I did a lot of playing with the registry this weekend to try and get the same TouchResponse in the new ROM as I had in the old. That has really been my only compaint about the ROM.
Below is what I found to work for me, better then anything I've tried so far. I will be the first to warn you that I have NO IDEA what I'm really doing in relation to TouchResponse, but I do have a good understanding of the registry. The values I've applied may really be nothing more then a happy thought in my head. Though I seem to be able to actually use the close/ok buttons in the upper right part of the screen.
I can make a CAB later, but these are the settings I adjusted my settings to.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"FingerPressure"=dword:000249F0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:000162F2
I'd like to see if others could test and post what your experience is. Even better, we may get some help from the chef's to confirm, deny, correct, extrapolate, etc, etc, to find a better fix.
***Edit: Forgot to mention. While the bottom 2 did help, the first FingerThreshold settings seemed to be what made the real difference for being able to competently hit buttons without feeling like I was jackhammering the phone. =)
Thanks!
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I would have to say that there would be a way to adjust the touchscreen on 2.13 as 2.10 does not have those registries...Well I'll give it a try when I upgrade to 2.13.
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secano said:
I would have to say that there would be a way to adjust the touchscreen on 2.13 as 2.10 does not have those registries...Well I'll give it a try when I upgrade to 2.13.
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Thanks. Personally I'm running these exact reg and it's working a million times better. But like I said, could be in my head. The only other things I changed sensitivity wise is the scrolling affects that HD2Tweak has. I'll be adding those to whatever I CAB up for a complete fix. I used SKTracker to find out which reg entries changed.
Yes,
Thanks! Please keep the ideas flowing here. Thanks to all that are working this!
I'm posting this reply for folks that are using the 2.13 STOCK ROM and you may want to know the original settings to revert back too or other places to look for you REG peeps to look at.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000031 STOCK SETTING
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"FingerPressure"=dword:000249F0
STOCK 2.13 version doesn't have this key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:000162F2
STOCK 2.13 version doesn't have this key
Did find these keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\CONFIG\TOUCH]
"BaseThreshold" = dword: 20
"FingerThreshold"=dword:31 (0X00001F) <- NOTE:
"NoiseThreshold" = dword: 20
NOTE: if you change the key[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel] to "FingerThreshold"=dword:0
then this value will change to 20, hmmmm.
Other notes: I think that BaseThreshold is where it starts?
I think that the Fingerthreshold here is where it all starts from after learning?
I think that the NoiseThreshold is the amount of "noise" from your fingertouch is allowed before it recognizes before it knows your finger is really touching the screen?
2nd half of post: I'm posting this for folks that may want to know what was in the 2.10.1 STOCK ROM:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"FingerPressure"=dword:000249F0
STOCK 2.10.1 version doesn't have this key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:000162F2
STOCK 2.10.1 version doesn't have this key
Did find these keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\CONFIG\TOUCH]
"BaseThreshold" = dword: 0
"FingerThreshold"=dword: 20 (0X000014) <- NOTE: now this is interresting
"NoiseThreshold" = dword: 20
This is what I recommend folks to change their 2.13 Builds to match the 2.10.1 Build for Touch Response.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\CONFIG\TOUCH]
"BaseThreshold" = dword: 0
"FingerThreshold"=dword: 20 (0X000014) <- NOTE: this may change automatically on you from the above change (Setting\TouchPanel)
"NoiseThreshold" = dword: 20
i'm a newbie!!!!
can anyone tell me how cani get to those registry or what kind of program that i need to see the registry? do i need to connect with the computer to see it and change it?
ipsaa said:
i'm a newbie!!!!
can anyone tell me how cani get to those registry or what kind of program that i need to see the registry? do i need to connect with the computer to see it and change it?
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Hello,
I will try to put this simply, please do not mess with your registry unless you know what you are doing it can crash your phone. When we finally find the fix for this, a cab file will follow shortly. The cab file will do the work for you and you don't have to worry about killing your phone.
If you really really really want to try then please search the threads and there you will find your answers.
Please refer to post #5
zim2323 said:
Ok, I did a lot of playing with the registry this weekend to try and get the same TouchResponse in the new ROM as I had in the old. That has really been my only compaint about the ROM.
Below is what I found to work for me, better then anything I've tried so far. I will be the first to warn you that I have NO IDEA what I'm really doing in relation to TouchResponse, but I do have a good understanding of the registry. The values I've applied may really be nothing more then a happy thought in my head. Though I seem to be able to actually use the close/ok buttons in the upper right part of the screen.
I can make a CAB later, but these are the settings I adjusted my settings to.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"FingerPressure"=dword:000249F0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:000162F2
I'd like to see if others could test and post what your experience is. Even better, we may get some help from the chef's to confirm, deny, correct, extrapolate, etc, etc, to find a better fix.
***Edit: Forgot to mention. While the bottom 2 did help, the first FingerThreshold settings seemed to be what made the real difference for being able to competently hit buttons without feeling like I was jackhammering the phone. =)
Thanks!
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Did you have to add the last two? I am running the release leaked on HTC last week and do not see the last two.
mmeyer4663 said:
Did you have to add the last two? I am running the release leaked on HTC last week and do not see the last two.
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I just tweaked the ones that I posted (to a 21903 2.13 BASE build);
I did not add those other 2 registry keys and it is a great improvement;
still testing myself.
Nibbley15 said:
I just tweaked the ones that I posted (to a 21903 2.13 BASE build);
I did not add those other 2 registry keys and it is a great improvement;
still testing myself.
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Interesting. I do not see the last two entries in my reg.
I guess the difference is, the HTC version for TMO HD2 leaked last week is 21892.
Nibbley15 said:
I'm posting this reply for folks that may be using 6.5.X and not know the original settings to revert back too or other places to look for you REG peeps to look at.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000031
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"FingerPressure"=dword:000249F0
6.5.X version doesn't have this key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:000162F2
6.5.X version doesn't have this key
Did find this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\CONFIG\]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:31 (0X00001F)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\SETTING\TOUCHPANEL]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:31 (0X00001F)
some others worth looking at possibly:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\HTC\TouchGL]
"DBCLKFingerDistance"=dword:45
"DBCLKFingerInterval"=dword:350
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THANK YOU for posting this info. I hadn't got back to do that yet.
mmeyer4663 said:
Did you have to add the last two? I am running the release leaked on HTC last week and do not see the last two.
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Both of those keys/values were there. Although the one thing I had already installed and run was BSBTweaks and HD2Tweaks. Either of those 2 could have created the values. They seem to actually work, but that's kinda why I was posting, to see what others experience was with it.
mmeyer4663 said:
Interesting. I do not see the last two entries in my reg.
I guess the difference is, the HTC version for TMO HD2 leaked last week is 21892.
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Just to clarify,
I am using a completely stock build of the new TMobile ROM. Based on the information I've read and that has been posted here, it looks like older ROMs may, or may not have those reg keys/settings implemented depending on the ROM timeline.
For those that have had a chance to try these settings, does it seem to improve things?
The numbers I used were just numbers I kept increasing. I have no idea what the max value is or could be.
I'm hoping tomorrow I'll have a chance to post the reset of the reg tweaks I used from HD2Tweaks that would be apart of the entire TouchResponse "package" that I've been working with.
Also, just in case someone wonders, don't ask for permission, TAKE PERMISSION to use this information however you want. You can say you figured it out and incorporate it into "My Awesome ROM". I really don't care. It's about getting things fixed we don't like, and making them better. I could care less who gets credit. I know for a fact that there are chef's and others out there that know a bazillion times more about this stuff then me. I just like know that I helped, if in fact it really does help.
Peace out!
I only had the first value in my registry:
"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000031"
But I did make the change and it absolutely made a huge difference, for the better.
Thank you for this. I just made the first tweak and things are 100% better. That eliminated my one big gripe about the new stock ROM.
xanderdad said:
I only had the first value in my registry:
"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel]
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000000
"FingerThreshold"=dword:00000031"
But I did make the change and it absolutely made a huge difference, for the better.
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So maybe that alone is the fix. I included the other keys because they were apart of the HTC Sense settings in HD2Tweak. Those keys may be more for scrolling issues.
Please put out a cab file for this mod. The lack of responsiveness is killing many here. Thanks.
NickPP said:
Please put out a cab file for this mod. The lack of responsiveness is killing many here. Thanks.
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Well, before I did that I wanted to know exactly what was "fixing" the problem and what exactly those settings were doing or how it may interact or affect other functions of the phone. So far I have had nothin but positive response to this.
I have a little more testing to do and then I will putting out a CAB with all the fixes I apply that are related to making TouchResponse behave like I would expect it to. Expect something in the next 24 hours. In the mean time, you can always use a registry editor and apply the reg values yourself.
I'm dealing with job and a new baby so my time is short. =)
Related
For those interested in my current ROM, here you go.
Notes:
MD5Sum ff713c7f13afb3db4ce26a51a487940d
Weighs in at 62 meg
No bootloader, boot splash or radio included.
I recommend radio 1.58.25.17
With above radio, first gps fix took 1.5 minutes
Removed all the AT&T junk software & games, jbed, RealPlayer
Removed MS Office apps (I only use/accept ISO Standard docs like PDF)
Enabled HSDPA & Icon , no service icon problems (no X)
Left AT&T service settings
Left in MS Voice Command since its hard to find
Vers 1.6.19214 MSVC works better than 19209 on this rom
No HTC Home, use a cab if you like it so much
Screen doesn't turn off when you wake it up like other ROMs
16meg page pool
Removed Themed dialer skins (I use the non themed dialer)
So far all my apps & SIPS work (iGo8)
Internet works consistent on AT&T, even when set to disconnect after 1min
Bluetooth file xfers work fine, just reboot phone after you pair first
I just realized that "Show SIM Contacts" has stayed disabled, cool!
Graphics benchmark: 1588.25*
Known Issues:
File system cache is disabled by default
Security is not disabled (you get the not certified warning)
Install KaiserTweak or AdvancedConfig to adjust above settings
Its the best** ROM I've used to date.
Use HTC Rom Image Editor to add or remove files to your liking.
4Shared Download
Ps: V1-V3 were failures
* I didn't really benchmark the graphics.
** Best: Meaning everything works decently, not as fast feeling as L26Vx Roms though.
Tip:
Heres a setting that I'm starting to enjoy: I set my data connection timeout to 1 minute using AdvancedConfig (Schaps), then set the "Connection Established" notification to sound a "bink" (Quietest) AND my email is set to retrieve every 15 minutes. That gives me an audible indicator that email is being checked, and to expect a possible voice announcement. Also, when I don't hear the "bink" I know now that I left an app like Opera 9.5 running, which keeps the data connection alive, consuming more power. Its like a heartbeat to let me know that I'm running optimal.
Moved yor post to a new thread. All Cooked Roms should have a thread...
kyphur said:
Moved yor post to a new thread. All Cooked Roms should have a thread...
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I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
rotohammer said:
I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
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Every Cooked Rom deserves it, makes it easier for Flashing Junkies to find & discuss it.
rotohammer said:
I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
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Downloading now. Let you know what I think. I'm a big fan of lite roms.
I dont normally post requesting anything, I just search and find it myself, but.......I cannot find the radio you are using. I've looked everywhere I can think of, and cannot find 1.58.25.27.
Thanks
Tin
tinpusher said:
Downloading now. Let you know what I think. I'm a big fan of lite roms.
I dont normally post requesting anything, I just search and find it myself, but.......I cannot find the radio you are using. I've looked everywhere I can think of, and cannot find 1.58.25.27.
Thanks
Tin
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i have 1.58.25.17 which i think is what roto means??
its i my 4shared account under radios.
thesire said:
its i my 4shared account under radios.
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Thanks, but I've found the NEON radio 1.58.25.17.
But he posted about 1.58.25.27. And I've seen several different posters with 1.58.25.27 in they're sigs, so I figured it couldnt be a typo. Is there a 1.58.25.27?
Tin
Fast ROM! The only "bug" I've encountered, and it's more of a customization thing, is that the security is not disabled (you get the not certified warning), therefore my UC did not run correctly. So now I've installed all my apps, and sync'ed with exchange, and everything is running great.
I dont use HTC Home, but SPB Mobile Shell 2.1 is running as fast as ever.
I'll probably stick with this for awhile.
Thanks for your time!
Tin
tinpusher said:
Thanks, but I've found the NEON radio 1.58.25.17.
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Busted! Yep, I think I copied/created the same typo that everyone else did early on during the frenzied excitement of ATW disclosing that the radio worked. My device information applet clearly says 1.58.25.17.
tinpusher said:
Fast ROM! The only "bug" I've encountered, and it's more of a customization thing, is that the security is not disabled (you get the not certified warning), therefore my UC did not run correctly.
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After running so many cooked ROMs, I was startled by the warnings at first. Then I realized, man, I have to play catchup and create an archive of tweaks to apply to new factory ROMs. So I let it go in hopes I can find a bunch of other useful tweaks, which, if we collect here (before 19215) I'll make a new version of this ROM.
FWIW, I favor lite ROMs for the purpose of debugging. I'll be posting an Add-Ons package with all the apps that I install. If there were more releases done like this, folks would end up with just what they wanted.
The whole HTC Home & IGo8 bug is such a thread waster as every ROM thread deals with the same applications issue over and over. The two apps don't work together, there is no fix, get over it!
I realize some folks like the "batteries included" ROMs as it saves them (theoretically) setup time. I seem to still spend hours getting my phone just right
Where was I going with this rant? I need coffee.
V4
Congratiolations my friend!
Didn't know you where interested in cooking.
Let me know if you need anything!
Regards,
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Didn't know you where interested in cooking.
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Neither did I! This ROM was born while comparing your V9b1 against the stock 19214 AND while playing with the ROM editor due to my dislike of HTC Home. It just so happened that I created a ROM that I actually liked!
I'm looking forward to running a lite version of your next ROM after the bugs are squashed, as I do enjoy the speed of your ROMS.
Long term I just plan on passing feedback to you and use your ROMs
rotohammer said:
I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
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You're in the SHOW now buddy
Congratulations
Hey Roto,
Been playing with this for about 2 hours now and I am really impressed. It is a clean, fast, stable AT&T based Rom that I can customize to my liking. It is so clean and fast I don't know what to load on it
Edit: This is a keeper
mcfarlan said:
It is so clean and fast I don't know what to load on it
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Thats funny you said that, as I had the same feeling. I ran it for a day before loading a lot of my apps just to see how it worked. Now I'm being picky about what to load
Benchmark
Roto- Thanks for taking the time to cook this rom.
Does iGo work? just kidding!
Don't know how you feel about benchmarks and I do not believe anyone has posted a 19214 bmark other than the vid-only gxmark (1588 anyone?)- Anyone attempt a more comprehensive test like SBP benchmark on this rom yet?
gasman858 said:
1588 anyone?
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Exactly! I've gotten zippo out of comparing the benchmarks. When someone does shoehorn in new graphics drivers, then we'll see the big jump. As far as OS benchmarks, its pretty much bound by the cpu speed and whether theres any other apps running. +/- %5 isn't even discernible. I read once that in order to notice a performance change, the factor has to be equal to/greater than 2x.
I love this. No HTC Home crap. I always disable it to put in WP and cnetx face contacts.
I'd run SPB benchmark, but it apparently requires a windows computer. I'm content in saying it feels frickin snappy.
YO! Did you disable the file system cache? Copying WP themes and icon packs is taking forever.
cbass said:
YO! Did you disable the file system cache? Copying WP themes and icon packs is taking forever.
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The only tweak I made was to enable HSDPA. If file system cache is disabled by default, lets add that to the list of fixes to do. I didn't pay attention as I ran though AdvancedConfig to setup my own defaults.
Hi people,
I come from the other side of the fence "Palm"
I just upgraded to the X7510, sweet piece of hardware and beautiful 5" display
So i'm very familiar in the Palm Treo world on customizing my own ROMs.
After reading & searching A LOT in here and other PPC forums, i still have a few utilities i can't seem to find.
So i read there is also a BootLoader screen in the PPC world, very typical of the HTC devices, makes custom ROMing very simple.
However, i still haven't come across the name of the applications you guys use to Dump (backup) the current ROM, and the Upload the new ROM into the device.
Or it seems like the only way is via ActiveSync 4.5 ?
Another doubt i have is about the Unlocked part.
My device is straight from HTC unlocked, does it mean it is fully SIM and CID unlocked, or it's only SIM unlocked?
By that i want to figure out if i need to run the CID unlock before doing the Custom ROMs etc.
And last but not least...
I'd like to contribute with the 7510 ROM original dump, seems like the Wiki doesn't have it yet,
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_Upgrades
so i'll probably need the same whatever tool you guys use, as asked in my first question, to backup the old ROM.
which will also help us fill the empty space in the Wiki left for the very same question
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
"How to dump the ROM"
Thanks
Cheers!
well... since i got no response from anybody
Thanks to myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408519
found the tool i was looking for to build my own rom.
and to top it off i finally found the ROM backup topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
now beats me on the mobile 6 subsection, and something that is totally on another area for another phone... oh well...
Good on you allgamer for taking a lead here. Some of us have been pushing for a separate 7510 forum under the Athena section. Without that we 7510 owners are continuously looking for "needles in haystacks".
cktlcmd and eaglesteve have been burning the 7510 candle for us. With your input we'll get this device on the map yet.
Hey i also just got a x7510, and id love see a x7510 rom!
hell yeah, you can say that again.... it was so hard to find anything, some times stuff like this the Search engine did not pick it up
like the rom dump, on another phone, i understand it is all PPC, but still it might have been different for some models
at least that was true in the Palm world, so i guess in the PPC world we'll have it easy, since it looks like all models dump appears to be the same.
as for the utility, never would have guessed it would have been found mentioned within a thread about something completely different.
anyways, now that i know, i'll be writing more about it, once i start working on it.
robjhellis said:
Without that we 7510 owners are continuously looking for "needles in haystacks".
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Vico100 said:
Hey i also just got a x7510, and id love see a x7510 rom!
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well, i don't mind sharing my custom ROMs, once i start cooking them.
but don't expect too much since, what i usually like to do is simply clean up all the junk that i don't need
then replace them with Freebies, or registered software, which if that is the case, i wont be able to share it here.
x7510 owners - forward march!
Something several of us are keen to see is a work around to make RealVGA work with Spb Mobile Shell. AllGamer, you mentioned in a post under "SPB Mobile Shell incompatible with Real VGA 96 dpi on the X7510" that you got a solution posted elsewhere working. Can you share with us how you did that?
Also, my devise is definately not running as smooth and quick as I would like it (or expect it to given its processor). As a prelude to getting some cooking going (and I'm not a chef) could we start to identify some tweaks that will make the stock ROM more efficient? For example I always ramp up the siz of cache etc. via MemMaid but to be honest I'm never sure whether it does any good or not.
Hi robjhellis,
Are you saying the performance in x7510 is not as smooth as it should be ? Can you please tell during what operations ie. Video etc it becomes sluggish.That would be a good place to start with.
Thanks,
Srini
Just guess, but i think that is the so much talked about behaviour of the video drivers issue on all HTC products
Videos are great no lag (well when i play them in coreplayer full screen, with specs up full). Only one "problem" lol...the audio is exactly -0.512milli seconds behind (when you hear it). So stupid tried all kinds of videos same result lol so thankfully coreplayer has an option were you just put "-0.512" in and ill kinda sync up the audio.. windows media player is pretty much pointless to play video now since you can't put -512 anywhere and the audio lags big time.
the audio in general is really bad, put on real expensive headphones and you can hear ssshhhhh hissss - the background noise.
Note: i was so shocked/surprised that i did a hard reset thinking maybe its something that i might of installed, but nope problem still there
srigopal said:
Hi robjhellis,
Are you saying the performance in x7510 is not as smooth as it should be ? Can you please tell during what operations ie. Video etc it becomes sluggish.That would be a good place to start with.
Thanks,
Srini
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Hi Guys, my issue isn't playing video - I haven't got to that stage yet on my 7510. Rather its just slow moving around menus, reloading after a soft reset, opening programs etc. I can sometimes count up to 3 and even 5 after selecting a tab before the tab appears e.g. Settings-System. I've also now started to see the start icon in the top left corner not redraw after a soft reset. There is much more lag than I see on my TyTN which, of course, is running a custom ROM
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Hi Guys, my issue isn't playing video - I haven't got to that stage yet on my 7510. Rather its just slow moving around menus, reloading after a soft reset, opening programs etc. I can sometimes count up to 3 and even 5 after selecting a tab before the tab appears e.g. Settings-System. I've also now started to see the start icon in the top left corner not redraw after a soft reset. There is much more lag than I see on my TyTN which, of course, is running a custom ROM
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I will suggest to check in the ATHENA WM6 section the thread how to speed sogarth base rom....
Basically install netCF3.5 , FDCsoft Taskmanager 3.1 and start changing how/stopping started services and applications (There are many lauchxx keys in the registry to change to avoid self application startup)
sergiopi said:
I will suggest to check in the ATHENA WM6 section the thread how to speed sogarth base rom....
Basically install netCF3.5 , FDCsoft Taskmanager 3.1 and start changing how/stopping started services and applications (There are many lauchxx keys in the registry to change to avoid self application startup)
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By any chance, do you know how to exlude Biotouch from starting list? It is not started from startup links, or at least not directly. I was browsing the regs also, but could not find anything. I use FTouchSL and UL for cube effect on Today screan, so Biotuch seems to be useless.
Also, do you now what a wt5portm or something like that is for ?
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Only one "problem" lol...the audio is exactly -0.512milli seconds behind (when you hear it). So stupid tried all kinds of videos same result lol so thankfully coreplayer has an option were you just put "-0.512" in and ill kinda sync up the audio..
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Can you be specific where to change this setting on Core Player?
its in advance - > near the bottom "manual A/V offset +/-"
but it still dosn't work...anyone got a solution plz....i don't know what to do the audio is always out of sync for any video..
I've found the same lag on audio and it is SO annoying! Nothing seems to fix it!!
I've created a quick "how-to" on dumping the x7510 ROM, which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org/dumping-your-x7510-s-rom-t6.html#p7
I will follow up with a "how-to" on re-constructing the ROM (unless somebody else feels inclined to do so instead). [Edit - found this how-to] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
However, we still need HardSPL or similar. CMONEX told me she and Olipro are working on an unlocker with that functionality, so we'll need to wait a tad! Once we have that we can start cooking some ROM's.
Im running THIS ROM, and it has the version of PIE thats included with wm6.1, despite being a wm6.5 ROM.
Im not in any way complaining about this ROM as it is very fast, stable etc.
But, im just wondering if its possible to upgrade to the newer build of PIE.
I dont know if its PIE6 or whatever, as Ive lost track of which is which.
But i cant seem to find a cab for it anywhere (and yes, I have searched)
Is it possible to extract files from a 6.5 emulator and copy them across to your device to use? If yes, could anyone advise me on which files I would need?
If it isnt as simple as this, then, it sucks. lol
So yeh, if anyone can help me with this, ill be very happy.
Plus, i think many others may want to know about this too.
Thanks
Cris
I'm pretty sure it is possible to install IE Mobile 6 separately, but I'm not sure how. Somebody will probably be along to explain.
That said -- I'm not sure I'd recommend doing so! IE6 is a decent browser, but I'd say that Opera 9.7, Iris, and Skyfire are all better. I actually prefer to DOWNGRADE to the old PIE, because it handles mobile sites better than any of the "full" browsers.
yeh, despite the features available in more recent browsers, I still enjoy the simplicity of IE mobile.
If it's basically running PIE 5, then most likely the chef disabled PIE 6.5 with a regedit. Here's how you 'upgrade' it (whether or not it's an upgrade is debatable, lol):
Go to HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer and change the value of 'MSHTML' from 0 to 1 and soft reset. That should do it, unless the chef actually replaced all the PIE stuff with one from an old build (I kind of doubt it).
well, im gonna try this now
If it works, I will be incredibly happy xD
Well, there was no 'MSHTML' entry where you said it would be
Damn.
It appears he did actually replace it.
Oh well. Cant blame me for trying.
At least i now know what to tell others for this problem
THANK YOU TED
You can always try entering the 'MSHTML' value, setting it as a DWord=1. It's worth a try. Just delete it if it doesn't work.
Sounds like the chef may have removed the BROWSINGIE, widgets, and/or another package or two from the ROM.. you could make some cabs out of those missing packages and install them, that would probably set you up and running But afaik there are no existing cabs for this right now, so you'd have to create them.
From reading a few post after doing a search here on XDA_Devs it seems that unfortunately ie needs to be cooked into the rom, there are no cabs available, and the ones that are... don't work! Sorry!
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You can always try entering the 'MSHTML' value, setting it as a DWord=1. It's worth a try. Just delete it if it doesn't work.
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I did try this
Still no luck.
Thanks for your help anyway ^_________^
OK, I'm officially frustrated with my ATT Fuze (Raphael). I've looked and looked, but I haven't been able to find a definitive answer...so I need some major help, please.
1) I use my WM Phone to keep me together, business-wise...so I need more than just today's appointment on the home screen. I need something that will integrate my appointments and/or tasks into TF3D, either by altering the home tab, or providing a new one. That's why, after searching, I tried Manila-Today (I think that's name)...it showed promise, but the very things I need (appointments, tasks), it doesn't support. I don't want TF3D-Detached or SecondToday if I can at all avoid it...I want something integrated. Is there a definitive answer for this?
That's the big one I've been researching...for a while now, too. I have a couple of other questions I haven't dug too deeply on (I've been researching the above like crazy!), but I'd love to have answered if someone has the time:
2) I'd like to get rid of the AT&T "trial-/bloatware" that comes on my phone. Does anyone know if the same trick for the tilt works with this device (soft reset after initial set-up, before countdown ends)...and without damaging it?
3) A lot of the things I'm looking at in terms of altering the TF3D requires that you know the version of it, and I'm a bit confused by all the names being bandied about (TF3D, TF3D2, Rhodium version, etc.). How in the heck can I tell what I have? At least that will give me a place to start in terms of adding new tabs, changing that god-awful landscape menu, getting some backgrounds, etc.
Sorry for ranting...it's just that I have this supposedly incredible phone, and I feel that I can't do jack with it. I appreciate anyone's help...thanks.
1. Try SBP Mobile Shell, short of using SecondToday or the Detacher, its the only other inerface that will run in conjunction with TF3D.
The calendar tab does provide some details but there is no appt tab.
2. Yes
3. Go to your settings tab/About, the version is there.
I was like you when I first got my Fuze because the Tilt development had gotten so far and ther was nothing initially available for the Fuze.
Patience, flash a couple of cooked or stripped ROMs and read all you can because it IS a different device with different anomalies, and you'll be lovin' it in no time.
One important one is that the RUU wrapper does not completely wipe the previous ROM, so you can experience bugs if you do not flash back to stock ROM every few flashes.
Before you flash:
understand the risks, ideally have flashed roms before, have hspl and spl 3.7, maybe not ideal for people who use it daily as a first or only device due to possibilities of things not working straight out of the box.
New Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tqivt9[/url]
A lot of changes addressed, I believe there may still be issues with the camera though
***Please note this is a test build(not Tested) do not complain if you brick your device, I welcome feedback good or bad but please respect the amount of time it takes me to cook these ROMS, if something doesnt work be patient as I have a full time job and a family that come first***
hey guys come on you don't want a wm6.5 rom with latest build??
hurryyyy
saied 1 said:
hey guys come on you don't want a wm6.5 rom with latest build??
hurryyyy
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If there is no interest I will still build one for you 2 to test, and we can see where we go from there. Hopefully have something for you for tonight or tomorrow depending if I can sort out the problems with my kitchen
Hello I would be a tester but the problem is I don't have a original WM6.1 Dutch rom so I can't reverse to original if i want to.
I heard HTC wil come with an update when this happens it is possible for me to test roms till then i will stick to the original rom.
got experience of rom flashing with wizzard, Iphone and a MIO A701.
greetings
Oebele63
Maybe I Can be a backup tester
I plan to flash in the next few days, but I'm not experienced with this. But I have read up on the subject for some time now so I've read about the things which go wrong from time to time and I'm aware of the risks. Be glad to help out though, i'm sick of my beloved x7510 being so sluggish
I will be your tester. Hope your rom work well
Just flash your lastest build rom. Your Roms is not for X7510. The flash errors occurs
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Just flash your lastest build rom. Your Roms is not for X7510. The flash errors occurs
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thats because you have flashed the clearly marked for x7500 not x7510, i will be cooking an x7510 build tnight or tomorrow and releasing to the people who expressed interest in beta testing, either you have misread my post here or not understood and i would advise you to wait for a release or your device
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thats because you have flashed the clearly marked for x7500 not x7510, i will be cooking an x7510 build tnight or tomorrow and releasing to the people who expressed interest in beta testing, either you have misread my post here or not understood and i would advise you to wait for a release or your device
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Heck yes I still want the ROM!! I'm always interested and once we work out the bugs, I'm sure everyone will be on board. I'm willing to help out wherever I can with this and if it means walking me through the kitchen and creating the .nbh then I'm game still.
Just my two cents...lol
will try and put a beta together when i get home from work probably be around 1am gmt, will pm download link to beta testers and update here and twitter when its up
Its done Beta1.01, links to download sent to selected beta testers, please do not publicly post download link until tested fully and I release a version for general release, feel free to post feedback here.
BETA testers, make sure you are on SPL3.5!!!!!
Try out as much as you can and then report back any issues etc, please try not to request things that are available via cab install as its not worth me installing specific software etc at the cost of module space in the native kernel. This rom should be very quick due to modifications to the space used in slot 0 of the native 6.1 memory kernel(0 modules). Also please be aware that some issues may be down to me using a leaked beta from MS and I may not be able to change some things.
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Its done Beta1.01, links to download sent to selected beta testers, please do not publicly post download link until tested fully and I release a version for general release, feel free to post feedback here.
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I didn't receive any links to download Beta1.01. So you didn't choose me, did you?
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Its done Beta1.01, links to download sent to selected beta testers, please do not publicly post download link until tested fully and I release a version for general release, feel free to post feedback here.
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6.5 Beta Issues:
1. The memory allocation sucks badly. Only 30mb left for program memory. This is a problem for running other programs or simutanious ones. There also appears to be a memory leak because the memory is going down slowly. A soft reset takes care of this for a little time.
2. Audible manager does not work. My personal feeling is take it out, never use it anyway.
3. Some of the icons do not render well. I would be more than happy to create a couple for you to insert in there place: Comm Manager, Clear Storage, Backlight and others. Not smooth on the edges.
4. G sensor works well, but again, not really a use for it. I would add it as an extra .cab to install for an additional cab package.
5. Real VGA - Another personal preference. Although I don't mind it being there.
6. VueFlo - Really? Wow, haven't seen that in a while and haven't tried it yet.
7. The Calculator wants to be in portrait mode at all times. Not a big issue, but I usually never use my device in portrait mode.
8. The ROM is fast, actually blazin fast for 6.5. I'm still trying to get use to the bottom bar but I do believe I'm stuck on 6.5 now. Very stable rom and runs without any hiccups.
9. SMS text received. When you click on notification and it opens the sms, it doesn't mark it as read. You have to click on it or scroll up onto it with the arrow keys for it to appear read and then no new messages waiting to be read.
10. The dialer....strange. I don't know if you have added a new one or if it is a component of the new 6.5. It does not render properly in portrait mode and the names/numbers on the left of the dial pad is very annoying. You cannot read the full name of the contact that comes up. The dial pad is not all the way on the screen. You can see the right numbers are a little off the screen.
11. Quickmenu - Don't understand why that was incorporated. The x doesn't close even though quickmenu is set up to close it.
12. While in the sms/text screen to read or create a text, when the phone rings, the caller id does not pop up. That is a bad one for me. I like to see who is calling before I answer...lol.
13. The Comm Manager isn't the normal one. I understand the quickness of it, but I prefer the original style. No issues with bluetooth or connection to the internet via media net.
I do believe that is it right now. I would literally call it a RC version. You did a great job, but like I said, the memory consumption is to much/great to be used heavily. I'll look forward to your next release.
New Release post 1, changes
Just about right said:
6.5 Beta Issues:
1. The memory allocation sucks badly. Only 30mb left for program memory. This is a problem for running other programs or simutanious ones. There also appears to be a memory leak because the memory is going down slowly. A soft reset takes care of this for a little time.
Hopefully this release will be better have removed a lot of unused packages
2. Audible manager does not work. My personal feeling is take it out, never use it anyway.
Removed
3. Some of the icons do not render well. I would be more than happy to create a couple for you to insert in there place: Comm Manager, Clear Storage, Backlight and others. Not smooth on the edges.
I dont do graphics so any help would be appriciated
4. G sensor works well, but again, not really a use for it. I would add it as an extra .cab to install for an additional cab package.
This has been left in unless I get more requests for removal as I do not have a cab
5. Real VGA - Another personal preference. Although I don't mind it being there.
This has been left in unless I get more requests for removal as I do not have a cab
6. VueFlo - Really? Wow, haven't seen that in a while and haven't tried it yet.
This in the dump from the original rom, I will remove at some point but involves digging into OEM files, will do this when closer to full release
7. The Calculator wants to be in portrait mode at all times. Not a big issue, but I usually never use my device in portrait mode.
Think I removed this calc but not sure now
8. The ROM is fast, actually blazin fast for 6.5. I'm still trying to get use to the bottom bar but I do believe I'm stuck on 6.5 now. Very stable rom and runs without any hiccups.
I recmod a lot of modules meaning that memory slot0 has zero modules in leaving it free for just the device kernel
9. SMS text received. When you click on notification and it opens the sms, it doesn't mark it as read. You have to click on it or scroll up onto it with the arrow keys for it to appear read and then no new messages waiting to be read.
Maybe a feature of 6.5 **not addressed in this build**
10. The dialer....strange. I don't know if you have added a new one or if it is a component of the new 6.5. It does not render properly in portrait mode and the names/numbers on the left of the dial pad is very annoying. You cannot read the full name of the contact that comes up. The dial pad is not all the way on the screen. You can see the right numbers are a little off the screen.
**possibly due to the build having the bigger bottom taskbar, cant remember if I included advanced config, if I did disable the phone skin, if not search for advanced config and disable**
11. Quickmenu - Don't understand why that was incorporated. The x doesn't close even though quickmenu is set up to close it.
**Removed I think**
12. While in the sms/text screen to read or create a text, when the phone rings, the caller id does not pop up. That is a bad one for me. I like to see who is calling before I answer...lol.
**Not address yet, but may be fixed through other changes, please report back**
13. The Comm Manager isn't the normal one. I understand the quickness of it, but I prefer the original style. No issues with bluetooth or connection to the internet via media net.
**Removed, back to original**
I do believe that is it right now. I would literally call it a RC version. You did a great job, but like I said, the memory consumption is to much/great to be used heavily. I'll look forward to your next release.
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I appreciate the fixes and await the release for download and install. I did do some research and the 0409 and other res are an integral part of the new 6.5. I found this weird because of the consumption it takes up in windows, but what do you do. Let me know what size icons you need and I'll fix the ones up and shoot them over to you. If it comes down to it, I'll strip the original and replace it with a doctored up one.
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I appreciate the fixes and await the release for download and install. I did do some research and the 0409 and other res are an integral part of the new 6.5. I found this weird because of the consumption it takes up in windows, but what do you do. Let me know what size icons you need and I'll fix the ones up and shoot them over to you. If it comes down to it, I'll strip the original and replace it with a doctored up one.
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Download was added to first post last night
No-one tried it?
Hi Mate,
I'm downloading now and wil let you know in a few days how I got on. Thanks for the ROM (beta or not, this is progress!)
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Hi Mate,
I'm downloading now and wil let you know in a few days how I got on. Thanks for the ROM (beta or not, this is progress!)
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If you could let me know if it boots etc as I dont have an x7510 to test with, many thanks