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Just a quick question!
How do you think Android will stack up to Windows Mobile when it comes to functionality? Android will certainly look better and be much more finger friendly,etc, but will it be closer to the limits of the iPhone when it comes to copy paste (Android has copy paste, but dont know if it works everywhere), email, contacts, and such? Will Windows Mobile fans be dissapointed or feel crippled when using Android?
Ive played around with the Android SDK a bit, but i havent really gotten a definite feeling if the functionality suits my needs
Cheers!
Yes I am also looking for some forum information on this matter. I would like to know the opinion of anyone who has had a hands on experience with both OS's. Found a nice article in endgadget but I like user opinions better.
I definetly want to know too!
Here is what I want to know for the Droid...
Can you use it as wifi router?
Does it do push hotmail instantly?
Is there logmein support?
Does it work with orb?
i'm moving to Android when Acer A1 liquid is out, then Sony X10a.
Android got free gps navigation with realtime traffic! nice!
segadc said:
I definetly want to know too!
Here is what I want to know for the Droid...
Can you use it as wifi router?
Does it do push hotmail instantly?
Is there logmein support?
Does it work with orb?
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1. Yes
2. No, not that I'm aware of anyway, but you can forward Hotmail email to your Google Account to receive it instantly.
3. Yes
4. Yes
Anything else anyone else wants to know then feel free to post here and I'll do my best to answer it in a reasonable time.
I swapped my Touch Diamond for my G1 and I can do everything that I could do on my windows mobile (although I didn't have WinMo for long)
I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile. Android is approaching windows mobile when you think of the ability to flash other OS versions and wide range of applications on an open system. But windows mobile gives me true multitasking ability like a desktop computer, and windows mobile can be edited and programmed to be something else. Through haret windows mobile phones can run haret and even android.
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I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile........
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Yes I'm heading this way too. Android has been quite a disappointment to me. Initially I was very happy with my new Milestone that replaced an HTC Touch Pro running WM6.1. The performance difference was staggering, there really is no comparison between them. However I just find more and more things missing from Android/Milestone note this list is just a braindump, some of it's in Android, some of it's the packaging for the Milestone, I'm guessing you can tell the difference.
No Outlook Integration, I really think that should have been there out of the box, there are third party apps that i've used with varying degrees of success.
Restricted Video viewing. I used to use coreplayer to view just about anything on WM without any conversions. Now through restricted information on APIs needed to port CorePlayer to ANdroid I'm stuck with a lengthy conversion process when I want to put video on the phone.
No contact lookup while dialing from the keypad, I really miss that.
No note taking, or word editing apps built in.
Can't save attachments in email - wtf!! this is basic functionality, everytime I want to view a word file attached to an email I have to wait while it downloads form my mail server.
Can't foreward some attachment types - crazy crazy
Can't edit original text in replies or forwards - this is basic functionality missing
Cut and paste is awful - ranging from not implemented, to badly implemented depending on where you try to use it.
Can't switch an sd card without rebooting - I don't know if this is milestone specific but you actually can't remove the sd card without removing the battery.
Tethering, I'm using PDANet, I don't think there is a WMWifiRouter equivalent without rooting the phone? So I am using PDANets blueTooth Dun service, much inferior to WMWifiRouters Personal Area Network implementation.
Can't charge from my exisiting Solar charger (Power Monkey Explorer), thats a pain in the ass, not sure why it doesn't work.
Facebook Contact integration, it claims to have it but it just doesnt work
Logmein doesnt work for me, nor do citrix support it for gotomypc
I'll add more as and when.
dashauns said:
I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile. Android is approaching windows mobile when you think of the ability to flash other OS versions and wide range of applications on an open system. But windows mobile gives me true multitasking ability like a desktop computer, and windows mobile can be edited and programmed to be something else. Through haret windows mobile phones can run haret and even android.
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can you explain what you mean with real multitasking? what miss you on android?
Hi guys new to the forum and my first post
So I have both OS I just got a HTC HD2 Winmo 6.5 and a HTC g1 Android
To me the Android is a lot lot easyer to use then Winmo. And the Markit place is the best I have used. But the HD2 looks nice the layout is top notch but when I go behind the HTC front skine and in to the Winmo I get lost and it all so looks like my winmo PDA witch I dont like.
As you can tell im not realy in to phones that much so dont know the correct names for the stuff im talking about lol.
If I could have Android under the Htc HD2 skin I would be happy
Hi!
Is there a way that Apache + mysql + php could run on Windows Mobile?
I've searched the forums but I haven't found anything useful.
Thanks.
Not that I've seen. Care to enlighten us with a possible reason you need a webserver in a phone ?
Well... it would be useful in some scenarios
Id put 50euro in for someone to get them working. Means a lot of my Web Apps could work off like and then I just have sync page to save on roaming chargess.
maybe something like this,
but it only support SQLite3 and a subset of all php functions.
http://mobileleap.net/hph/
I remember way back being able to run apache at least.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/apache-ce.html
There was also a version of asp http://www.modezero.net/PocketASP/
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Not that I've seen. Care to enlighten us with a possible reason you need a webserver in a phone ?
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Do folks really need a reason why?
I think the answer is, 'cause it would be cool!
Having the ability to test database queries
would be great for students like me.
Imagine while in the bus, or train, or waiting at the doctors and having the ability to create tables and all!
Answer...
Here is your answer..
apache II v1.0 on mobile phones http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=apache+on+windows+mobile&btnG=Suche&meta=&aq=f&oq=
apache php mysql would be great to have an always accessible mediawiki as described in my comments here :
http://carrypad.com/2010/02/22/airlife-100-thoughts-6-days-online-battery-and-pricing/#comments
PocketHTML;
http://www.isquaredsoftware.com/pockethtml.php
or
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-hyperedit.html
For on the fly html edits.
And here an introduction to ASP.NET Mobile;
http://www.geekpedia.com/tutorial120_Introduction-to-ASP.NET-Mobile.html
Have fun,
Senax
How are you going to access the applications deployed on the web server in your phone? I dont think there is a way to get static IP for phones. This is a strange thread.
I was thinking something like bluetooth PAN, Celio Redfly or the phone itself.
But also I am thinking the wiki should be mirrored on the web so that the access to the wiki is not dependent on the 3G connexion. Seems to be doable with mysql, at least from the phone mysql db to the webserver mysql db. I guess I'd need sthg to mirror data from the webserver to the phone, maybe OpenVPN or sthg else with mysql I don't know ...
Use 2D barcodes on your webpage to obtain applications easily via
(Use your phone) http://www.i-nigma.mobi/ 2D Barcode Reader
VPN Mobile;
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-vpn-mobile.html
Total Commander (free for smartphones/PocketPC/handhelds) has inbuild FTP.
I'm thinking of changing my handset in the near future and currently I have a Nokia N95. I'm a little undecided on either Android or Windows Mobile. Android looks very promising but the HTC Touch HD2 is looking very good. If I was to go Android, I'm probably looking at the Hero or maybe if I can wait for the X10.
However my main concern is actually getting some apps which will replicate what I can currently do with my aging N95. I suppose if there is no available app then it'll make my choice between Android and WM a whole lot easier.
If it's not too much trouble, if some experienced WM/Android users could give me the names of some apps that I require it'd be much appreciated.
Call recorder - Needs to automatically record calls in the background with no beep if possible. Would be nice for it to be able to manually record clips with hotkeys from main screen.
Network client to access network shares, mainly windows shares but sometimes linux (NFS) (guess this is no problem for WM, but for Android?)
Weather application - I've seen this in action already on the HD2, not sure about Android.
Convertor application - Converts currencies (able to retrieve latest rates) and measurements, volumes, etc.
VNC/Remote desktop client - Again, should be easy for WM, but for Android?
SSH client - Needs to be able to tunnel so I can have access to secure connections when using free wifi. (I think I saw ConnectBot for Android, no idea for WM)
Application that can automatically switch profiles (silent, ring, etc.) based on a set of rules such as time or (even better) by location
Media player application (think this is built into WM - but what codecs can it play?)
Many thanks
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I'm thinking of changing my handset in the near future and currently I have a Nokia N95. I'm a little undecided on either Android or Windows Mobile. Android looks very promising but the HTC Touch HD2 is looking very good. If I was to go Android, I'm probably looking at the Hero or maybe if I can wait for the X10.
However my main concern is actually getting some apps which will replicate what I can currently do with my aging N95. I suppose if there is no available app then it'll make my choice between Android and WM a whole lot easier.
If it's not too much trouble, if some experienced WM/Android users could give me the names of some apps that I require it'd be much appreciated.
Call recorder - Needs to automatically record calls in the background with no beep if possible. Would be nice for it to be able to manually record clips with hotkeys from main screen.
Network client to access network shares, mainly windows shares but sometimes linux (NFS) (guess this is no problem for WM, but for Android?)
Weather application - I've seen this in action already on the HD2, not sure about Android.
Convertor application - Converts currencies (able to retrieve latest rates) and measurements, volumes, etc.
VNC/Remote desktop client - Again, should be easy for WM, but for Android?
SSH client - Needs to be able to tunnel so I can have access to secure connections when using free wifi. (I think I saw ConnectBot for Android, no idea for WM)
Application that can automatically switch profiles (silent, ring, etc.) based on a set of rules such as time or (even better) by location
Media player application (think this is built into WM - but what codecs can it play?)
Many thanks
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Hi, I've been using android for the past six month (never touched WinMo) so hopefully I can help out
1) Call Recorder - No idea, I really don't think this is possible on Android at the moment
2) Next work shares - There are apps in the market for accessing files, but I'm not sure if they will suit your needs
3) Weather - If you get a Hero, you will have HTC's very nice forecast app, very similar to the one present in TouchFlo on WinMo phones. Which has widgets of several sizes. There are also apps in the market which offer more functionalitybut aren't quite so sexy.
4) Currency conversion - Haven't installed one because I haven't needed it, but I'm sure there will be one in the market.
5) VNC - There are a couple of free VNC apps in the market which are both very good.
6) SSH - No idea, sorry.
7) Profiles - There's an app in the market called "Locale" which I'm fairly sure does everything you asked for
8) Media Player - This is where android falls short. Mp4 or 3gp are the only natively supported codecs, and I've yet to see an app which supports any more.
SSH with COnnectBot
I'm looking for an eWallet app, like Ilium Software's eWallet for PPC, which runs both Desktop (WinDOS and/or Linux) and Android PDA.
Joe
joebacsi74 said:
I'm looking for an eWallet app, like Ilium Software's eWallet for PPC, which runs both Desktop (WinDOS and/or Linux) and Android PDA.
Joe
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This looks good: Splash-ID. Has a desktop client as well. I don't use it so I can't say much else about it.
I personally use B-Folders which is a Free app and works great for me.
Security
I am a little suspicious about installing and using certain apps. Many state that they have full access to the phone and internet, meaning they can send all of my personal information elsewhere...and in an e-wallet application, that can be devastating. A goldmine for ID theft criminals... learn some code, and write an e-wallet application. Make it free and watch the information roll right in!
Can b-wallet be trusted? They are based in Spain and Bulgaria. Not much information out there about them.
Splash ID looks great and legit, but $30 is a ridiculous price for this software. $10 maybe for both desktop and phone.
Like the other guy said, B-folders does the exact same thing Splash ID does, and it's free, they are asking way too much money for that app
Have you considered KeePass?
Open source, no internet access (internet access not requested in the manifest upon install) & has an open source desktop counterpart too!
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-android-keepass-qtw.aspx
I was a long time eWallet user and contacted them recently because they don't have Android or WebOS clients. They said that they have no plans to create anything at this time for other platforms.
Seems like they are not doing well these days. I looked at Splash ID and while it seems okay, they way they license desktop software is insane and I hear that databases are not compatible with other version of their software so if you get a new phone you'd be out of luck.
I am now using CallPod's Keeper. It is very simplistic which I hate but it works with most major phones and desktops (PC & Mac, etc) I run it on my iPhone and Android.
Having used eWallet for a long time, on all platforms (pc, iphone, winmo), I hope they make ewallet for android soon.
Otherwise I have to find a new password program as well...
If enough people mail them, they must sooner or later make an android version
Otherwise I recommend lastpass(.com). Not ecsactly the same as ewallet, but really good. However, it requires internet access...
I am actually hoping for SPB Wallet to made for Android. SPB did announce Mobile Shell for Android so I am hoping they are gonna port more of their software library over as well.
I've been hassling Illium for ages about this, they don't seem interested in the slightest
**EDIT** Hang on, Splash actually charge you more if you buy the desktop and phone client together than if you buy them seperate! How does that work!?!?!
+1 for KeePass.
It is OPEN SOURCE and it does not require internet connection.
And it has desktop app as well, which is good.
For this kind of app which we use to store "sensitive information", I cant easily trust any closed source app.
That's why I am heading to KeePass when I got my Android device (ordered).
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Have you considered KeePass?
Open source, no internet access (internet access not requested in the manifest upon install) & has an open source desktop counterpart too!
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-android-keepass-qtw.aspx
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Well your wish was partially granted eWallet Viewer.
You can sync with your windows PC and view on your Android, but you cannot add or edit.
awesome, at last..
Now hopefully they do a full version also.. I see a lot of WM6.x users switching to Android at the moment...
double post
Woo hoo!!!!
Finally!
Viewer is good enough for me. It sync's to the desktop too (I've even paid for an upgrade to v7 so this works )
I would like to introduce keywords like AES or encryption on this post. I have been looking on and off for days for an encryption package for Android and pretty much drew a blank, with a couple of notable exceptions. It was only through trying to find out more information about JointLogic (makers of B-Folders) that I stumbled upon this very useful discussion. I also deeply distrust the anonymity of these vendors. I am deeply sorry if I offend them, but these days we are used to look a gift horse in the mouth. JointLogic is trying to make us suspicious of Google with backdoors in their engine, yet we are supposed to trust an anonymous company in who knows where?
I read somewhere that an android version of Ascendo Data Vault could be out sometime soon. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?
FireWallet
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FireWallet
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...is a totally different type of app. Good addition to the conversation :roll:
worse of all, the viewer has no SEARCH function!!!
After 8 months and still not a peep.
I really love my Android phone, but I also love the WP7 interface and I think it has great potential, especially after Mango has been released.
Since I am on Verizon, I am possibly looking to get the HTC Trophy, but I wanted to first ask some questions I hope you all can answer. I apologize in advance if some of these are stupid questions, but any help you all can provide would be greatly appreciated.
1) Is there a good Remote Desktop app for WP7 that uses native Remote Desktop functionality? i.e., I don't want to have to install a VNC-type server on my machine for it to connect to. I also want to be able to set the machine resolution, much like the Windows-desktop based RD application
2) Microsoft Exchange app - the native Android mail app sucks, so I purchased Touchdown for Exchange, which is a MUCH better MS Exchange client. Does WP7 have something similar? Or, is their native Exchange mail app good? (I want to be able to view HTML emails, and if possible, send HTML emails)
3) Flash- I know Flash is currently not supported. From what I read, Mango was supposed to bring Flash to the platform, but I see that it isn't the case. Will Flash ever be supported? Or, is there a way to hack the phone so that we could add support for Flash?
4) Sideloading apps - Android allows to sideload apps without unlocking/rooting the phone. Can this be done with WP7, or do we have to unlock/jailbreak the phone first? I read somewhere that up to 10 apps can be sideloaded... any info on this would be great.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
1) There is only 1 at the moment and it's called Remote Desktop and it's a little pricey at $5.99. There's only a few reviews on it so far but people seem to like it.
2) The default email client is excellent and can view html emails with no problems at all. There isn't any rich text editing when composing an email.
3) We can only guess but I don't see it happening. I don't know of any browser that supports flash and hacking IE9 to support it is extremely unlikely. Perhaps one day it will happen but don't expect it any time soon.
4) You have to dev unlock the phone to sideload apps. There are free methods or the official method by paying Microsoft $99 for a dev account.