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The officially unofficial Tiamat Moray ROM Q&A Thread

This thread is an attempt to help out the Tiamat Developers by answering the frequently asked questions in one consolidated thread. This thread should also be helpful to those who either cannot use the search feature or are having a hard time figuring out the correct search terms to find what they are looking for. If you have suggestions or added questions/answers feel free to reply and I will update the OP.
NOTE: I am not a developer. All of the information in this thread is from other members who have helped me out or information I found in the XDA forums. I do not take credit for any of the great work that has been done on this ROM and I will point back to the original answer when possible. I am only trying to help lessen the burden on the developers so they can spend more time getting us the best features. Hopefully you find this helpful as well.
I've flashed this ROM and now I get update notifications. Should I accept the update? How do I stop these notifications?
No, you should never accept an OTA upgrade when using any custom ROM/Kernel. This could result in severe problems. Your best bet is to be patient and give the developers time to react. If the update is worthwhile I am sure they will roll it out pretty quickly.
To get rid of the notifications flash Mod pack 3 as noted here.
OK I made the mistake of accepting the OTA update and now my Xoom won't boot. What can I do?
okantomi said:
Can you make it reboot by pressing volume up and power at the same time and holding? If it reboots, wait about 3 seconds once you see the dual core logo and then tap volume down you shoud see android recovery, then tap up to choose it. I hope you did a nandroid backup. If not, you can try and get fastboot by tapping volume down sooner after it reboots.
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From this thread.
With this ROM certain websites don't load correctly or I can't get to the mobile version of a site.
This ROM by default sets the User Agent String to "desktop". If you want to revert to the stock settings flash either Mod pack 1 or 2 depending which version of Moray you are running. Look here.
I flashed this ROM and now when I click links in email or my file explorer the screen just dims and nothing happens.
This is a bug in Android 3.2 and not specific to this ROM. To solve this, simply ensure auto-rotate is enabled and rotate the device from landscape to portrait and back to landscape. The app chooser window should appear allowing you to choose which app to open the selected file.
I just flashed this ROM and the speed is amazing, so I OC'd it to 1.7GHz cuz I want more and I am now stuck in a boot loop. This worked for others why not me?
The Xoom was only specified to run at 1.0 GHz, anything beyond that is a gift. Due to part-to-part variation not everyone's Xoom will be stable at the same speed. Yes some people are able to run at 1.7 GHz, but many cannot. For your specific Xoom try out the various speeds, but do NOT click "Set on Boot". This way if it crashes it will revert back to stock speed and you will be able to boot. Once you are satisfied with a speed then feel free to enable "Set on Boot". Before you do so I would suggest making a nandroid backup so you can restore just in case.
How do you get out of this boot-loop? The only way I know of is to boot into recovery and restore a nandroid backup if you have one or perform a full wipe if you do not.
I updated to the latest CWM and I cannot find the zip card or I get "get error: E:failed to mount /sdcard (No such file or directory)."
Latest is not always the best, for the Xoom you need to either use ClockworkMod 3.2.0.0 (R4C) or CMW Rogue Recovery v1.1.1
After flashing this ROM the Motorola icon gets distorted during boot up, is that a problem?
Basically it is not a problem. This kernel has a patch provided by NVidia which causes the distortion during boot. It does not cause any problems after it boots.
Is there a way to get the stock WiFi and Battery icons?
Yes
How do I boot into recovery without ADB or my PC attached?
There are a couple methods.
1) The latest Tiamat ROM includes this if you press and hold the power button. Just pick what you want and hit OK.
2) Download and install "Quick Boot" from the market. It gives you the above options as well as others when you run the app.
3) Turn the Xoom on, wait ~2 seconds after your see the Dual Core logo, then press the volume down key. In the upper left corner it should say "Android Recovery", then press the volume up key to select it.
How do I get started? Any good guides?
There are several guides that are pretty good. The best one I have found and personally used is here.
The Xoom Heaven thread found here is also a good place to start for all sorts of information.
If you have another question please feel free to post to this thread. If you are having a problem or have a question it is likely that someone else along the lines will have the same problem or question. I will continue to update this OP with the list of F.A.Q.s.

Additional Q&As
After installing this ROM I am having issues with the market not finding all of my apps or apps are giving errors when trying to install them.
See this post for one possible solution.

One more for good measure...

HuckFinn, I think you have covered most of the hot issues. Great job!

Stickied. Thanks for posting this, and Solarnz for giving me the heads up to do so.

Sorry for the newb question, but what's "root"?

Psychokitty said:
Sorry for the newb question, but what's "root"?
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oh kitty, you funny!

Psychokitty said:
Sorry for the newb question, but what's "root"?
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It's what you pull your hair out by when something is not working properly!!

darn you... I earned 1/2 my posts responding to the "why does my screen dim" question... now I'll have nothing to say!

i performed a factory reset from the os-> settings and once again performed a wipe/factory reset from the cwm recovery but still can't get back to the initial setup screen (where you enter your google a/c, etc)
any idea?
Thanks!!

Here is one..
Why does Market show up in USD even though my locale is set to UK, my language is English British along with my keyboard layout?

Ive had boot loops twice. Both times i could get into recovery but could not get backup to restore . kept getting cant read /sdcard. also cant reinstall update .zip becuase the sd card wont mount. I have only gotten back in by letting it sit powered off for a bit.
any ideas?
should i adb a stock image and start again?
should i flash a different recovery?

madamimadam said:
Ive had boot loops twice. Both times i could get into recovery but could not get backup to restore . kept getting cant read /sdcard. also cant reinstall update .zip becuase the sd card wont mount. I have only gotten back in by letting it sit powered off for a bit.
any ideas?
should i adb a stock image and start again?
should i flash a different recovery?
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What version of recovery is installed now? If you have the version that doesn't recognize your external sdcard you should certainly flash a compatible recovery version through fastboot.

okantomi said:
What version of recovery is installed now? If you have the version that doesn't recognize your external sdcard you should certainly flash a compatible recovery version through fastboot.
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Is there a way to check version without booting into recovery? Which version would you suggest?
And thank you

madamimadam said:
Is there a way to check version without booting into recovery? Which version would you suggest?
And thank you
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There are only two recoveries compatible..
you will find them in the Xoom Android Developmet Board in the sticky threads

LPHS said:
There are only two recoveries compatible..
you will find them in the Xoom Android Developmet Board in the sticky threads
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OR here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209341

Links to both of these recoveries are also in the first post of this thread.

HuckFinn said:
Links to both of these recoveries are also in the first post of this thread.
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Guess I should have read the thread before posting here, sorry for being a troll.

I tried this ROM on my 4G Xoom, but it left me without 4G or 3G (wifi only). Any way to get this working, or do I have to wait for an update?
I did try activating the network in settings, but it never connected even half an hour.

Thanks to steps mentioned by user 'LordDeath' in another thread and a bit of experimenting with a rooted 4G Xoom and a friends 3G Xoom running Moray, there seems to be a remedy for those who are having issues with the market compatibility issues as well as missing apps. I did not activate until attempting to sign in to the market and had missing apps and compatibility issues. I simply did a full wipe & reset and made sure the full activation went through in set up then let it automatically start restoring. I took a peek in the market after a a minute and all my apps were back with no compatibility issues. Here is a copy of his original post and mine but the last step was not needed for me.
Originally Posted by LordDeath
Something more about the market:
After I restored my backup of the official 3.1 ROM I still had some issues. On http://market.android.com I still saw that my Xoom is not compatible with some apps. The market app on the device did show these apps but upon installing I got the error message: "Fehler beim Verarbeiten des Kaufs". Translated into English it means "Error while processing the purchase". It was a free app, btw.
To solve this issue I did the following:
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. Active the device during the wizard on the first boot with my Google account
3. Restore the nandroid backup of the official 3.1 ROM
Therefore it seems that the market servers check your device-compatibility only during the activation process at the first startup.
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"This fixed everything for my friend running Moray and even corrected the issues on my 4G Xoom..."
I should add that though this fixes the issue, if you change your pixel density you may run into similar issues but can correct it by setting it back to 160 before going into the market.

[Q] I think I killed my Nexus S! Please help! (unlocking process/rooting stuff)

So, this is what has happened so far:
I googled for a small and easy to follow guide to unlock my phone so that I can later on install a custom rom. I followed the steps provided here:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
What I didn't notice on the first place was the "UPDATE: DO NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE INSTEAD Please see new root method which works on all Nexus S and Nexus S 4G!" link. Don't ask why - really don't know.
The result was having my Nexus S stuck on a screen that shows Google logo on the middle and an unlocked padlock on the bottom.
It seemed, or to be exact, I figured out that, the problem was the .img file mentioned on some point in the middle of this.. tutorial.
So, I decided to follow the newer guide that can be found here:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-new/
Although all went well (didn't have to go all over the same processes up to the .img installatin point), I ended up with the same screen that shows Google logo on the middle and an unlocked padlock on the bottom.
I figured out that I could just install a rom at this point, and decided that I should go back to stock. So, I followed this guide here:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
But, when I choose to install the .zip file, I get this error:
assert failed: "getprop ("ro.product.device") == "crespo" || "getprop ("ro.product.device") == "crespo"
E: Error in /sdcard/i9020t_i9023.zip
(status 7)
Installation aborded
..let me add to this point that I have bought my Nexus S from EU, it is an i9023. Let me also add that all I wanted is to flash an ICS rom and I think I have ended with a f****d device I don't know what to do with!
Any help, really, would be so much appreciated since I need to use this phone. I have a backup for calls etc but I need some smartphone features!

I seriously doubt you killed your Nexus S. Temporarily disabled is more like it.
From off position, hold down Power + VOL-UP. You should be greeted with a screen with a green android and 4 options. If you can get there, that's the bootloader, and unless you manage to kill it (which is VERY hard to do), you can reflash everything from there via usb and adb.
What model Nexus S do you have? That's important for helping you to flash it.

nickmv said:
I seriously doubt you killed your Nexus S. Temporarily disabled is more like it.
From off position, hold down Power + VOL-UP. You should be greeted with a screen with a green android and 4 options. If you can get there, that's the bootloader, and unless you manage to kill it (which is VERY hard to do), you can reflash everything from there via usb and adb.
What model Nexus S do you have? That's important for helping you to flash it.
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Yes, I can enter this menu - there already. My model is an i9023GSM.

OK, then you DONT have a dead phone. You just need to reflash it correctly.
I'm sorry I can't be helpful for longer, because I am at work,but follow this guide and make sure you follow every detail (take note of step 6 in particular).
I know it's a long guide, but it's VERY detailed, and should get you up and running.
On a side note, for ROM selection, are you looking for an Ice Cream Sandwich alpha ROM (android 4.0) (less stable) or the older Gingerbread ROMs (2.3.7)?

nickmv said:
OK, then you DONT have a dead phone. You just need to reflash it correctly.
I'm sorry I can't be helpful for longer, because I am at work,but follow this guide and make sure you follow every detail (take note of step 6 in particular).
I know it's a long guide, but it's VERY detailed, and should get you up and running.
On a side note, for ROM selection, are you looking for an Ice Cream Sandwich alpha ROM (android 4.0) (less stable) or the older Gingerbread ROMs (2.3.7)?
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You gave me the good news so, thank you for that. Now, I should follow this guide and come back in case I have a problem.
As far as the rom, I wanted to flash an ICS since I cannot wait any longer for Google to release the official update. But right now, anything that can get my device up and running would be really good!

Edit: nvm. >_<

kijp15 said:
Why don't you just use shabby's one click root. Simple & much easier. Saves all sorts of troubles.
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Will this solve the problem I'm facing? If yes, then it's fine by me.
Ok, just saw the edit, no worries!

nickmv said:
but follow this guide and make sure you follow every detail (take note of step 6 in particular).
I know it's a long guide, but it's VERY detailed, and should get you up and running.
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OK, stuck already. On Part 2 what I understand is that I have to open the CMD and copy-paste the path to the "tools" folder? Because this is what I do, and after - since this is what I have understand - I type "fastboot oem unlock" and I get "'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file."
What do I do wrong?
EDIT:
Tottaly stuck on Part 2. It seems that there is no fastboot.exe file inside "tools" folder. I don't think the problem is something else - I'm sure I give the right commands since I tryied for fun another folder I have with fastboot.exe inside and it worked - to be exact it just gave me a FAILED messsage since device is already unlocked. Plus, regarding Part 3, Step 1, the first file for download is missing so I used the second link and downloaded 5023-cyan file. Hope this was a right move to do.
EDIT 2:
Ok, here is the story so far: I followed the guide given step by step. The USB drivers has been installed correctly so the device can be connected to the PC.
In the "tools" folder there was no such fastboot.exe file so I manually added one that I've found on the newer guide given on the 1st post. The unlocking process is failing because the device is already unlocked.
I did manage to install after this, the 5023-cyan.img file since this is the only link working from Part 3, Step 1. This gone well too!
Now, I couldn't go on with Part 4, I mean, I could not install the .zip file as it describes so through recovery mode I installed the .zip file succesfully (confirmation message to Nexus S screen).
I reboot and still get the same Google logo on the middle and an unlocked padlock on the bottom.
I cannot understand what I do so wrong? Oh, I'm so disappointed..

OK, people, head's up! I did manage to install the latest stable rom of cyanogenmod and the phone is up and running! It means that somehow everything went well! Now, how do I return back to OEM? Because I just need to make things as they where before..
..or should I give cyanogenmod a chance?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664 or use ROM manager and select Stock ROM (you should then receive OTA upgrades to 2.3.6).
On the latter: You colud just back up different ROMs and switch between them using CW.

skatastamoutrasas said:
Will this solve the problem I'm facing? If yes, then it's fine by me.
Ok, just saw the edit, no worries!
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If you are still facing problems. Try locking your bootloader again with this method. Then it will let you go back on stock. Use v3 it is stable solid and easy to use.
Nexus S + CM9 kangs = Awesomeness

mixtapes08 said:
If you are still facing problems. Try locking your bootloader again with this method. Then it will let you go back on stock. Use v3 it is stable solid and easy to use.
Nexus S + CM9 kangs = Awesomeness
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Can you give me a CM9 kangs link since as new here, I'm kinda lost?

Ok new problem this time! After I installed my 3rd rom (probably, a totall noob thing to do) which was the OEM one, I tryied to re-enter recovery mode to wipe all data and re-install the rom I want. But now I get this mark of the small green android with a big exclamation mark on top of his head. What is this new hell that found me?

skatastamoutrasas said:
Ok new problem this time! After I installed my 3rd rom (probably, a totall noob thing to do) which was the OEM one, I tryied to re-enter recovery mode to wipe all data and re-install the rom I want. But now I get this mark of the small green android with a big exclamation mark on top of his head. What is this new hell that found me?
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Try re-flashing the recovery. Either threw rom manager or fastboot.
Fastboot flash recovery "nameofrecovery".img

kijp15 said:
Try re-flashing the recovery. Either threw rom manager or fastboot.
Fastboot flash recovery "nameofrecovery".img
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Worked just fine! Thank you!

skatastamoutrasas said:
OK, people, head's up! I did manage to install the latest stable rom of cyanogenmod and the phone is up and running! It means that somehow everything went well! Now, how do I return back to OEM? Because I just need to make things as they where before..
..or should I give cyanogenmod a chance?
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Nice, glad to see you managed to get it working. Honestly, the hassle is kind of worth it, because you learn more about the process anyways.
That being said, give CyanogenMod a chance. There's also several other ROMs. Unless you need stock OS for warranty service, I'd recommend going with one of the many custom ROMs we have here.
There are several minimalistic AOSP-built ROMs that mimic the feel of the stock OS, but are optimized for speed, and still have some very nice tweaks that you may enjoy. Just take a look through the dev section, and you'll see we have tons of options.

nickmv said:
Nice, glad to see you managed to get it working. Honestly, the hassle is kind of worth it, because you learn more about the process anyways.
That being said, give CyanogenMod a chance. There's also several other ROMs. Unless you need stock OS for warranty service, I'd recommend going with one of the many custom ROMs we have here.
There are several minimalistic AOSP-built ROMs that mimic the feel of the stock OS, but are optimized for speed, and still have some very nice tweaks that you may enjoy. Just take a look through the dev section, and you'll see we have tons of options.
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It did worth the hassle, that's for sure. Now I think it's so easy to unlock a Nexus plus I now have a little more knowledge regarding Android .
I will stick with CM 2.3.7 as it looks just fine. I don't care about warranty, I don't think I will ever need the official service for a software issue. Now I have to re-install my apps, re-sync my accounts and setup the phone the way I want it. It will take a little more time.
But I'm glad that I pulled this through - with your help of course! Guys, you rock!
I wish that I'll be as helpful as you at the near future.

Today's latest CM9/ICS kang is here
I'd also recommend getting a custom kernel.
For batt life, morfic's SEUV kernel.
For reg performance, perhaps Matrix's kernel
MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE CLOCKWORKMOD PERMANENTLY INSTALLED BEFORE DOING THIS. It saves time if you mess up. Also, make sure you get the latest gapps HERE
Instructions:
1. Go to clockwork recovery
2. Select data/factory reset/wipe
3. Select clear cache as well
4. Adv Mounts and Storage > wipe /system (note, this wipes android off the phone. It's a good idea since youre going from ver 2.x to 4.x)
5. Choose "flash from zip" (or whatever it's called.....NOT flash from update.zip)
6. Flash the cm9 update file first, then flash the kernel of your choice, then flash the gapps file.
7. Back out of the menu and select reboot.
Take note though, that the new ICS OS has incompatibilities with certain apps while GPU rendering is turned on, etc. It'll prob reboot on you sometimes, etc. For the most part it's stable, but that's completely subjective.
If you do run ICS, make sure you turn on GPU rendering in Dev Options. It takes full advantage of the GPU for UI animations, etc. Sometimes there's a stray app here and there that doesnt play nice, and you'll notice if the window looks really tiny or funny. Turning it off will fix the problem.

nickmv said:
Today's latest CM9/ICS kang is here
I'd also recommend getting a custom kernel.
For batt life, morfic's SEUV kernel.
For reg performance, perhaps Matrix's kernel
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Two questions:
The link you give me to download the ICS rom keeps loading for ever. So, I choosed this one instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356228
Right or wrong thing to do?
It it essential to install a custom kernel? I ask because I forgot to copy/paste the .zip file and due to lack of time, I procceded without it, installing the ROM and G-APPS.

Poking at latest OTA update for fun and profit

I am poking around the latest official OTA update (get it here).
I am trying to see if there is anything useful for aftermarket roms. I will post
here my findings, if any, and all the questions that pop to my mind. Hopefully
someone in the community will have answers.
The updating script does the following:
1) several checks on bootloader/recovery/cid/device version
2) copy fotaBoot to /data/system/fotaBoot to trigger some changes at reboot
3) checks on files to be patched
4) delete several files from /data (notably adio_checksum, DxDr,
SuplRootCert_injected)
5) delete lots of files form /system
6) apply patches
7) copy files into /system
8) set permissions
9) flash firmware.zip via
Code:
write_firmware_image("PACKAGE:firmware.zip", "zip");
Among the files being modified there are a couple of firmwares (yamato_pfp.fw
yamato_pm4.fw). I do not have them on my system (I run CM7) and I have no idea
which piece of hardware they refer to. There is also an app whose purpose I
ignore (HTC-DPM-GB-2.3-48637-11.1.apk) and a mysterious recovery.img in /system
(more on this later).
Does anyone know the exact procedure by which firmware.zip is flashed? Will any
check be performed on it? Its content is the following:
* android-info.txt: ASCII file with some version numbers.
* boot.img: should be the new kernel+ramdisk; I tried booting it with few
expectations and indeed it wont boot with a non-sense /system
* hboot_8x60_DOT_1.45.0013_20111121_signedbyaa.nb0: the new bootloader; I see no
reason to flash this unless it provides some new features.
* radio.img: fat image with radio files (should be safe to flash)
* rcdata.img: ???
* recovery.img: this won't boot; may it require the above mentioned recovery.img?
Anyway this is completely useless
* rpm.img: ???
* sbl1.img: ???
* sbl2.img: ???
* sbl3.img: ???
* tz.img: ???
Anyone has ideas on what the other files are? I assume that if we avoid flashing
hboot we will always have fastboot available to us and S-OFF to flash anything
we would like to, correct? Revolutionary team can you please explain how you
make the phone S-OFF once your exploit gives you the right privileges? Will any
of those files affect it? Has anyone here any idea of which partitions should
they be flashed to?
As I said I tried to boot both recovery.img and boot.img to get a config.gz and
kernel version with scarce success. I'd like to see whether they made some modifications to the
kernel which improved battery life. I think I will repack the new kernel with
CWM recovery and get the info from there.
Ideas of things to poke at? Comments? Helpful insights?

Related info: here .
sbl*.img might be the boot loader. (secured/secondary boot loader???) but why in 3 separate chunks?

More info: here
rcdata.img is text; it should be the configuration of the radio but if I check the content of the corresponding partition (mmcblk0p18) on my phone there is a lot of binary junk together with the small amount of text. The options are the same except for one (AGPSNVSetting) that is missing in the updated rcdata.img
Code:
# cat /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 | strings | tail -n 9
QCT_UMTS_RADIO_VER=1
DisH=2
AGPSNVSetting=1
EnDTM=0
MSCMode=10
HSDPACat=10
HSUPACat=6
GEA3=0
QCT_UMTS_RADIO_END=1

I know probably the biggest request from the community is to figure out how to root the update; it seems that the Rev. team has been notified that the exploit they used before seems to have been patched in this update.
Also very profitable would probably be zips for the new kernel and radio, if possible. Early reports have indeed been of better battery life, and also higher quadrant scores.
Anyway, many thanks for this thread, and for looking at the update

Etn40ff said:
Among the files being modified there are a couple of firmwares (yamato_pfp.fw
yamato_pm4.fw).
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Just a shot in the dark, but Yamato is refered to here:
http://code.google.com/p/synergy-ki.../system/etc/adreno_config.txt?spec=svn41&r=41
It seems to have something to do with the adreno chipset...

There's a Pre Rooted Version of the OTA Update on Rootzwiki. I would imagine those on XDA would be rooted all ready. I understand trying to find a way to Root the OTA Update for those who had it before they could root. But wouldn't a simple Temp Root, then Downgrade work? That's what I had to do with my G2 and G1.
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Litesorrows said:
There's a Pre Rooted Version of the OTA Update on Rootzwiki. I would imagine those on XDA would be rooted all ready. I understand trying to find a way to Root the OTA Update for those who had it before they could root. But wouldn't a simple Temp Root, then Downgrade work? That's what I had to do with my G2 and G1.
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the version on Rootzwiki isn't the newest update, the one that just came out 3 days ago. and the newest update has proven impervious even to temp-root so far. the only way to downgrade is if you were S-OFF before updating. there is a thread on this in the general section.....

If you updated, please view this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405859

I had pulled the new google talk app and made it flashable on request, here's the link:
Gtalk update
There are a couple others if anyone wants them - deskclock, wifi calling, t-mo mall and carbon backup, netflix, and two logging utilities.
The rest is all small updates to a lot - what I wanted to look into first were the GPS updates to make sure my patch stays as current as possible.
You can either pull apart the package directly, or flash the update and do an adb pull to grab new stuff - backup guide in my sig tells you all about using the adb pull command.
Now that we know you can rewind the changes and get root back after the update, either should be fine. I've been going through the download zip, but haven't had much time at my workstation.
I have a couple emergency shifts to work, kept me offline yesterday & today, I'll check back on a break later and see if I have anything else to add.
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Blue6IX said:
I had pulled the new google talk app and made it flashable on request, here's the link:
Gtalk update
There are a couple others if anyone wants them - deskclock, wifi calling, t-mo mall and carbon backup, netflix, and two logging utilities.
The rest is all small updates to a lot - what I wanted to look into first were the GPS updates to make sure my patch stays as current as possible.
You can either pull apart the package directly, or flash the update and do an adb pull to grab new stuff - backup guide in my sig tells you all about using the adb pull command.
Now that we know you can rewind the changes and get root back after the update, either should be fine. I've been going through the download zip, but haven't had much time at my workstation.
I have a couple emergency shifts to work, kept me offline yesterday & today, I'll check back on a break later and see if I have anything else to add.
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could i get deskclock, wifi calling, and netflix

Yamato is gpu proprietary files. U would use them in a compile against source code for the improvements. I would say kernel fixes would be the main thing if reports are better quadrant and battery life
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I flashed the t-mobile signed stock rom PP59IMG.zip through the bootloader then proceeded to download the OTA's. After that I placed the new recovery image in the appropriate place and rebooted bootloader to prepare pushing the recovery through fastboot. What I noticed is that even after installing the OTA in a unrooted totally stock rom, S-off remains, however where "revolutionary" once was written now displays "**Locked**" , so apparently HTC has managed to relock the bootloader even though it shows S-off. It's not totally locked, as I had to reflash the PP59IMG.zip to downgrade hboot again so that I could reuse the revolutionary tool to flash the 4.0.0.8 recovery, then install CWM to update the recovery. As long as "Locked" was sitting where "revolutionary" normally is, I found it impossible to use fastboot, so my guess is security remains off but fastboot is locked. Just my guess anyway.

Where did you get the stock/signed T-Mo PP59IMG.zip? Can't find it anywhere here. Thanks.

monakh said:
Where did you get the stock/signed T-Mo PP59IMG.zip? Can't find it anywhere here. Thanks.
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yogi2010 said:
sure Blue, it is pretty much the usual...
To undo the update/restore the stock firmware that came with the phone:
(Note: this will only work if you are still S-OFF even tho you have the new HBOOT version. If you are S-ON with the new HBOOT, then at this time there is no known way to revert... hopefully we can get the devs. of Revolutionary, etc, to update the root methods. Also, if you want to update just to check it out, make sure to turn S-OFF first if you'd like to give yourself the option to revert later.)
1. Download the stock firmware package from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178082
2. Rename it PG59IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard.
3. Boot into the bootloader('adb reboot bootloader' or power down the phone then hold volume down + power), let it read the update package, and press 'volume up' to update when prompted.
4. At the end it will prompt you to press Power to reboot. It scared me because when i pressed Power, the screen went off and seemed to not come back on, so i pressed power once again, and it booted into the system.
That's it! Just remember that if you do this, it will of course erase all your data... your phone will be like it was out of the box.
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I'm not sure if this helps anyone, but here is the boot.img taken from my nandroid of the newest OTA ROM:
http://db.tt/GHfzWNIj
come to think of it, looks like you might already have this in the OTA zip... although this one is a bigger file...

Two questions:
1. How do you flash this update? When I click the HTC Update, it gave me the ~5MB update, however not the ~40MB one. So is there a way to manually flash it?
2. Is there a way to doing so without loosing the recovery and root?

Sinfamy said:
Two questions:
1. How do you flash this update? When I click the HTC Update, it gave me the ~5MB update, however not the ~40MB one. So is there a way to manually flash it?
2. Is there a way to doing so without loosing the recovery and root?
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You can download the update and run it manually. I can't remember if I renamed it update.zip and flashed it through stock recovery or used the bootloader.
If it was the bootloader, rename the downloaded zip to PG59IMG.zip, put it on the root of your sdcard and boot into the bootloader. The device's screen should prompt you with install instructions.
As for keeping root and recovery, no. As long as you are S-OFF *before* doing this, however, you can re-flash a custom recovery and re-root using these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433805

Yeah, the update flashed nicely thru the stock recovery. I learned once you get to the recovery screen, you press volume up + power to get the options to show up.

Samsung Galaxy Relay 4G Information Portal

I'm going to start collecting the various little tid-bits of information that we have scattered across the threads here to hopefully compensate without having a dedicated forum. Eventually I'll add some other guides and such from personal experience, if you know of any Relay related threads or other information located on the interwebs, please drop a link here!
Standard Disclaimer: I am not responsible for what you do to your phone. The information contained in this thread is here to help you do [anything] correctly. If you follow the instructions listed there-in you will be fine, and ask questions if you don't understand something. I am not responsible for what you do with and/or to your phone. If you are unsure about a procedure's outcome, do not proceed with the procedure.
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How to Get Into Download Mode:
1. Hold Power, Vol Down, and Home button simultaneously
2. When "Samsung" appears on the screen let go of the power button but keep the other two pressed down
3. Voila!
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ROMS:
[CM9][ALPHA]Galaxy S Relay 4G [12/8]
(Use the updated link below instead.) Stock + Odin Flash (+ Rooted System Img File)(Simplified Instructions)
Updated Stock ROM (Has LH1 flash-able via ODIN) Post + tested Tethering Fix(1)
How I reverted my phone to stock + root.
Update from LH1 to LMA2 On Stock ROM w/ preserved root (doesn't remove if you have root, but doesn't give you root) (Untested)
Update from LJ1 to LMA2 on Stock ROM w/ preserved root (doesn't remove if you have root, but doesn't give you root) (Untested)
Root:
[root]\{cm9} samsung galaxy relay 4g (updated 11/19)
General Discussion:
Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread
Miscellaneous Information:
Keyboard Customization:
Dillalade's Explanation on How To Set Custom Key Mapping(1)
jarrodlombardo's Key Mapping (Follow Dillalades's guide first)
orange808's Key Mapping
Unsorted, Need to Organize and Determine Relevance (If still applicable or OLD information) or Flesh out supporting information:
nopty's Hiemdal Method (Need to use Heimdal 1.41RC1 or Higher from This Post) (gee ones building heimdal for ubuntu 12.04)
AndriodForums Relay Forum
Sim Unlocking (Need to Verify - Unknown Method) (Sorta Verified)
Nardholio's Links to Create an Odin Flashable Image
NV Dump Backup (Important in case of corrupted IMEI)
Nardholio's Flash Counter Information
gee one dive's into nard's stock rooted img in response to Qualcomm secure boot
nopty's CWM recovery post (10-11-201) Odin Flashable of nopty's CWM Recovery
kornyone's introduction
How to change/remove startup/shutdown sounds
dillalade has issue with 64gb card w/ resolution to issue
fantomex's Andriod WPA2 PSK Authentication issue and resolution
Skinomi Skins for the Relay
gee one fixes his bootloop
gee one's list of bloatware Bloatware gee one was able to remove
Sim Unlocking for those who purchased Retail (no contract)
dillalade's guide to getting Google Now to work on the stock ICS Rom
Nardholio's Untested Tethering Fix
T-mobiles KIES LH1 Update Support Page
gee one investigates the efs partition on the relay Nardholio's response
CWM-Only Flash-able LJ1 Modem
Some changes from stock LH1 to LJ1

Reserved

Reserved 2

Just in Case

how about a link to the original factory rom to restore back to before CM9 ?

Kaczman said:
how about a link to the original factory rom to restore back to before CM9 ?
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I found one that might work for you, update the OP with the info.
I've got to flash my relay to stock and when I do I'll create a small guide. For now I found an older flash that could be used then KIES could update this ROM to the current LH1 (Need to verify build number).
I need a stock rooted rom, while traveling through the mountains the switching in CM9 isn't working correctly (phone constantly looses service when switching from 4g>3g>Edge frequently).

Here's another sim unlock. I can verify this one as working since I am now using my phone with Solavei. I purchased my phone directly from t-mobile (no contract). I used an AT&T sim to do this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36400199&postcount=783
Sent from my SGH-T699 using Tapatalk

Spoxy said:
Here's another sim unlock. I can verify this one as working since I am now using my phone with Solavei. I purchased my phone directly from t-mobile (no contract). I used an AT&T sim to do this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36400199&postcount=783
Sent from my SGH-T699 using Tapatalk
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Thank you!
Update OP. It's still in the unorganized section, but it's there!

Thank you, is a very useful guide ! :good:

You should post your first post from this thread in the request thread to show everything going on. Should work better than just posting "Samsung Relay, please"

That's the plan after I get it organized. I'm also going to follow the instructions given by kinfauns.
It's a start.

Never really notice that many steps when you go through it quickly, but this is the process that I used to revert my CM9 + CWM recovery to Stock rom + Stock Recovery. I don't know if it was supposed to happen that way, but it did. After flashing the stock PDA file (via odin) I was able to flash the CWM recovery again while adding root to the stock rom.
All of the items talking about (roms, odin, root, ect) except a program to unzip the files can be found in links in the thread in my signature. For reference, I use 7zip and just rightclick>7zip>extract to folder.
How to go Back to stock w/root from CM9:
Download stock rom (newest is the LJ1 tar.rar).
Download Odin
Unzip LJ1 into it's own folder. Navigate to where you unzipped the file.
Rename unzipped file to remove .md5 so it ends in ".tar" instead of ".tar.md5"
Unzip Odin (into it's own folder, navigate to the folder)
Put phone in download mode (Instructions are quoted in the OP of the thread in my sig)
Start Odin (assuming that you have already plugged the usb cable into your computer)
Connect phone (that's in download mode) to computer via USB cable.
ODIN Will have blue "Added!" box after it's recognized the phone (2nd box from the top left)
In ODIN, click the "PDA" Box and select the .tar for LJ1 (the file you unzipped and renamed)
Uncheck the "auto-restart" radiobox under "Added!". Then Click Start.
Wait for odin to finish. Do not touch your phone or click any buttons in the odin program. After It's done, reboot the phone.
Go into recovery mode on the phone (Vol Up Instead of Vol Down)
Wipe SDCard and cache
Reboot phone. It may take a few minutes to pass the samsung screen. The phone will vibrate briefly as is finishes booting
Sign into the phone (google, facebook, ect...this is probably a skipable step).
Turn off phone. Reboot into download mode (Vol Down)
Download nopty's CWM recovery
Unzip file (into it's own folder, navigate to it), removing the .md5 like the file above
Connect phone to computer, after ODIN recognizes ("Added!") it click the PDA button
Navigate to the unzipped and renamed (".tar") CWM file and select it.
Unceck "Auto-Reboot". Click start
Wait to finish, then power off and reboot phone
After phone has re-booted connect to computer
After connected to computer, transfer SuperSU zip(CWM Flashable) to SD card (You'll need to download this too, can be found in the Updated Stock Roms link)
After that's transferred, reboot phone into recovery mode. (Vol Up)
Use CWM to flash the SuperSU zip
Reboot phone
Congrats, you now have a stock rooted phone!
Just the basic frame for the guide, will update with links and what little troubleshooting I know and add guide to OP after it's finished.

Working with you guys is awesome.
Anyways, you guys know the drill.
New Device Request Forum
I may be naive, but I would like to equivocate a thanks with a "signed" on the post above.
PM'd kinfauns, lets hope that he can help us get to the right people!

thanks
thanks

So, has anyone else gotte the software update notification and felt brave enough to run it? I don't want to have what happened with the G2 with their first update and lose root.
Also, the damn notification icon won't go away despite postponing the update.

zakiancel said:
thanks
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your welcome
mikeybot said:
So, has anyone else gotte the software update notification and felt brave enough to run it? I don't want to have what happened with the G2 with their first update and lose root.
Also, the damn notification icon won't go away despite postponing the update.
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Not yet for me. I'm playing around with a stock rooted (debloated) rom that gee one made right now, I didn't get the OTA update message though. If you do "update" you should still be able to flash CWM and enable root/superuser again. Keep up updated!

Help
I am thinking of buying this phone with such great hardware....but one important question....does this handset have a common 'broken compass' issue?!!!...came across a couple of post with such issues....btw why dont we have a dedicated forum for this famous device?

tany.jags said:
I am thinking of buying this phone with such great hardware....but one important question....does this handset have a common 'broken compass' issue?!!!...came across a couple of post with such issues....btw why dont we have a dedicated forum for this famous device?
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Broken compass?
I remember seeing a few posts about it too, but I didn't flag them unfortunately. Post the question in the Development thread and we may be able to get you an answer quicker :good:.

tany.jags said:
I am thinking of buying this phone with such great hardware....but one important question....does this handset have a common 'broken compass' issue?!!!...came across a couple of post with such issues....btw why dont we have a dedicated forum for this famous device?
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Broken? No, but on occasion, it does momentarily glitch up, but once you start moving it clears itself up. Nothing like what would happen with the G2. (I do also have GPS Status installed as well)

I did run the update after taking a look through the zips and deciding to take the plunge and see; and it does reflash the recovery, and while I do have Odin, I have as yet been unable to flash any CWM again. There are no errors, it just doesn't work. I am as yet hopeful though and will report my progress. I didn't see anywhere in the update where it updated the bootloader, so flashing should still work.

[Q] Rooting, Flashing, Upgrade services needed!

I've searched & found 'How to....' threads on here but TBH I'm not a techy and most of it doesn't make sense to me.
I did try to upgrade from 4.0.4 to 4.1 this week and almost succeeded until some 'signature not recognised' message appeared. So I'm going to attempt another way (if possible/allowed) and ask if there's anybody out there who'd be willing to root (whatever that means), flash (ditto) and upgrade to 4.1 for me in return for payment.
I really hope this isn't against forum rules - it's a genuine, last-ditch attempt.
I live in the West Mids but travel a big chunk of the country each week so could possibly deliver the thing.
Here's hoping for an avalanche of replies.....

Can anyone tell me why I get the 'signature not verified' message please?
I've downloaded the upgrade from an October thread on this forum.

Which xoom do you have (wifi, 3g/4g, international, family)? Are you rooted yet?

dfib1 said:
Which xoom do you have (wifi, 3g/4g, international, family)? Are you rooted yet?
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Thanks for replying!!
It's the wi-fi model. As for 'is it rooted?' - I would say not. One, because it's hardly been used and two, because I have no idea what 'rooted' means.

junctiontwo said:
Thanks for replying!!
It's the wi-fi model. As for 'is it rooted?' - I would say not. One, because it's hardly been used and two, because I have no idea what 'rooted' means.
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Sorry I took so long to answer.
As for being rooted if you are the only one to have own the xoom and don't know what it means then you are most likely not rooted. Root is like getting administrator rights in windows. It gives you the ability to customize your device, install custom roms and also completely screw up your device .
You should be able to go to settings-about tablet--update (or system update) and it will check for your update and ask you to start the download and install. If this does not happen then you can flash back to Honeycomb (which I can walk you through this will also wipe all your data or maybe for a fresh start) and let your device automatically update to ICS (4.04) and the JB (4.1).
I can also walk you through rooting and installing a custom JB rom like you asked for free.

dfib1 said:
Sorry I took so long to answer.
As for being rooted if you are the only one to have own the xoom and don't know what it means then you are most likely not rooted. Root is like getting administrator rights in windows. It gives you the ability to customize your device, install custom roms and also completely screw up your device .
You should be able to go to settings-about tablet--update (or system update) and it will check for your update and ask you to start the download and install. If this does not happen then you can flash back to Honeycomb (which I can walk you through this will also wipe all your data or maybe for a fresh start) and let your device automatically update to ICS (4.04) and the JB (4.1).
I can also walk you through rooting and installing a custom JB rom like you asked for free.
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Please don't apologise - you're the only one to answer!
I've tried the system update and have been told that there are none. (In my ignorance I actually thought it would update to 4.1.2 automatically!).
Your offer to walk me through the rooting & upgrade is extremely generous and I accept without hesitation.
If it's flashed back to HC, will it default back to ICS or move to JB?
A huge 'Thanks'.
James
PS. Having tried numerous times very recently to upgrade there's no data to erase so that's not an issue....

I am going to give you the steps to unlock your xoom, install a recovery, root, install CWM Rogue Touch recovery (better than the one you used to root) and then install stock JB.
Now that we are talking root I am going to ask a moderator to moved this thread to the root section.
Here is how I rooted my xoom.
follow the directions here but instead of doing step 1 follow this for adb install http://www.support-4-you.com/main/i...ged-adb-installation&catid=40:how-tos&Itemid= it is a 1 click adb install then follow from step 2 on.
When you are done there you can install CWM Rogue Touch screen recovery
Download CWM Rogue Touch zip and put on the root of your external sd card. ( if you don't have a sd card we will do it another way just let me know)
Boot into recovery by turning your xoom off.
1. press power
2. when the moto dual core logo comes on wait 3 seconds and press volume down
3. recovery should be displayed across the top press volume up.
You can skip steps 1- 3 now that you are rooted if you download Quick Boot open it, select recovery and the grant Super user permission
4. go to install zip from sd card (just like when you rooted) and find the CWM Rogue Touch Zip and install
5. reboot your xoom
6. you now have CWM Rogue Touch installed.
To install JB on your xoom you do need an sd card for this part
DownloadJB stock for wifi xoom and copy to your sd-card
Here is the thread discussing this [JB]Stock Android 4.1.1 JRO03H, Root, via CWM Recovery (US Wi-Fi MZ604) and also there steps for installing it but I will post them for you here.
boot into recovery
select backup and let it backup your current system (a Parachute)
then select wipe factory/data ( I Can't remember excactly what it says because I use a different one)
then select install zip from sd card
locate the JB rom you copy to your sd-card and install.
reboot system (it will take some time the first time)
sign in to android with your gmail account.
You are on JB
Good luck and don't worry if something goes wrong we can get you out of 99.99% of any issues that arise.

dfib1 = I cannot thank you enough.....
The frustrating thing is I'm about to leave the house and am working away until the weekend so can't try it until then! I'll let you know the outcome.
Have a great day :good:

If you need help with his excellent guide just post here or hit with a pm
Sent from my Xoom using xda app-developers app

Ok, a quick mid-procedure question....
(I'm doing something fundamentally wrong because I can't quite finish the upgrade).
Do I install the folders onto the Xoom from the SD in a zipped or un-zipped state? I've tried both but no luck so far in completing the task.
I've rooted successfully as my PC recognizes the device. I believe I've installed CWM ok - is there a way to confirm this?
On the final 4.1 install I get the 'installation aborted' message as 'signature not verified'. One thing I may be doing wrong is installing the wrong files? On selecting the JRO03H folder I'm then given file choices and I'm clicking on what I think are the most obvious. I can post a list of the choices if it helps?
Sorry to be such a newbie pain - I realize that these questions are irritating to those 'in the know'!

did you reboot after fastbooting the recovery? the recovery says clockwork at the top. It should also be touch screen controlled
When you move the zip over leave it as a zip on you xoom and when you flash the recovery will unzip it for you.

what step are you up to?

Sorry for the late update. I've tried the whole procedure several times from the very beginning, even removing previously installed Rogue & JB software, but STILL get the same error messages as previously described. I've re-booted at the right time according to the instructions but this still makes no difference, and have checked the 'USB de-bugging' option.
I did make a couple of basic errors in the Command function to begin with but realised these & corrected them. My device serial no. appeared so I assume I rooted successfully? I'm able to change Developer settings which I couldn't before. I even installed the USB drivers independently via the Motorola website.
I have a free day today so am going to make a bucket of coffee, make myself comfortable and start again.
One quick point - I'm in the UK and assume you two helpful guys are in the US? Looking at numerous sites it seems our respective Xoom models have different procedures which is maybe why this isn't working?
Thank you again for your seemingly endless patience.......

i believe you are getting these issues because you might still be running the stock recovery.
lets just backup and start fresh.
You followed the instructions mentioned before and I assume you have adb and fastboot installed.
Connect your xoom and make sure usb debugging is on.
open up a command line and type adb reboot bootloader
I'm going to assume because of the previous steps you unlocked the bootloader if not type in the command line fastboot oem unlock
You can download the recovery from here http://bit.ly/iLRAIV
If unlocked at the bootloader type fastboot flash recovery recovery-Tiamat-R4c-100611-1150-cwm.img Note:make sure the img file is in the same folder where your fasboot.exe is in the sdk
after it has been flashed reboot device by hold volume up and power.
Move the JB stock rom into your sd card. you can download the rom from here http://www.mediafire.com/?qhbhlbvu859bv0f
after the device restarts type adb reboot recovery
in recovery Wipe everything except the sd card. Then flash the above jb rom. In theory everything should work. If you keep getting the error get back to us because Im going to give up and guide you through the install of the Team EOS Jellybean 4.1 rom that I know works without issues. PM if you want to have my direct contact info for gtalk so we can discuss further for any issues.

OK I've just tried another 8 times to root the thing, c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y following the instructions step-by-step.
1. I don't have the 'from SD card' option, instead have 'from USB drive'. I have a 16Gb flash drive connected via an adaptor for the Xoom which doesn't appear to prevent anything as it reads the contents of the card just fine, unless you can tell me otherwise?
2. In Recovery I get these options:
* reboot system now
* apply update from USB drive
* wipe data/factory reset
* wipe cache partition
3. Even when trying the very first install (Rogue), I get:
--Install /sdcard ...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
I love a challenge and always get a buzz when I manage to do something that is foreign to me i.e computers. On this occasion however I'm fast getting to the stage where I think it'd be easier to leave things at 4.0.4.
My reason for wanting the upgrade in the first place is because I'm comparing this tablet to my work-supplied Galaxy Tab 2 running 4.1.1. Realistically I don't think the two will ever be comparable and I'm probably foolish to think this could be the case. It only remains to say that I am so very grateful to both of you for taking so much time & effort in talking me though the procedures.
I consider myself pretty 'switched on' but this has me foxed!
Cheers guys - have a great weekend. Hope the snow doesn't cause you problems!

here are the outline of the steps
1. unlock your xoom
2. fastboot a recovery to install custom recovery on your xoom
3. reboot into new recovery
4. flash universal root zip to root your phone
5. reboot phone that is now rooted.
6. reboot phone into custom recovery again
7. flash jb update
I think you have missed step 1 or 2.
When you type fastboot oem unlock what does it say?

Hmmm, I MAY be one step closer?
After typing' fastboot oem unlock' the tablet has gone into 'Starting Fastboot protocol support' but appears to be stuck. Do I wait until it's done it's thing?
OR would it be a whole lot easier for all concerned if we tried your other suggestion dfib and flashed back to HC and then to JB?

What if you type adb devices? Does a bunch of numbers show up or does it say waiting for device?

Hold the front page!!!!!!!
I just watched a video on how to unlock and it's worked. You were quite correct - I had missed your point 1 above and probably point 2. I'm moving onto the next bit now....

Great let us know what happens. I will be around for a while.