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The MR2 update is out on the PCD site. Looked in some of the forums and nobody has mentioned it. Anyone install yet? I'm still downloading. Hoping for an updated Sense at least. PCD site only mentions a general update for VZNavigator, Contact Cards and Time Stamp.
Edit: I've downloaded and run the update and now I'm stuck at the starting HTC screen (now green letters on white) with the version numbers in red in bottom left. I've re-booted and sticks at the same place.
I'm having the same problem. I've heard you can go back to the MR1 update. Also, sounds like people who unlocked their phones are the ones having the issue. Anybody else have any info?
TP2 Verizon MR2 update
Found this nice summary of changes over at WMExperts:
ROM: 4.01.605.15/Radio: 2.35.00WV
Operating system has been upgraded to Windows Mobile®
6.5 COM2.5.
The HTC Sense™ user interface has been improved.
Visual Voice Mail (version 1.1.12.11) now comes preloaded on the device.
GlobalAccess Connect support. For international Internet access, you can tether your smartphone to a notebook.
Enhanced VZ Navigator® performance.
Improved auto-configuration of Daylight Saving Time.
Improved word prediction and autocorrection.
Enhanced on-screen keyboard layouts.
New, compact QWERTY keyboard option.
When composing email or text messages, type the first few letters of the recipient’s name in the To field to see a list of possible matches.
Quick setup of common email account types and an option to set up an email account manually.
However there is a problem with the update. You will need to relock it apparently to load it. Here is what they found:
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"Originally Posted by NightRaven
I also cannot boot the mr2 update. However, I dumped the rom, and rebuilt it using the boot.rgu from the MR1 update, and also removing the OEM_FLASHDRV_1.DLL module from the XIP. After flashing it did boot correctly.
I'm going to now try a straight dump and rebuild to see if it is just something in their updater thats causing the issue.
Yep, It is the boot.rgu and the OEM_FLASHDRV_1.DLL that's causing the problem!"
It is Sense 2.5, as I mentioned back in March.
One thing I noticed, is that my customized taskbar doesn't work correctly on this ROM. Some icons remain stock while others change. Some DLL's have changed names I guess.
They also mentioned that the task manager is gone, does that mean that I cant choose what to close and when to close it now?
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I got it last night but haven't had a chance to check it out.
You were right Brent!
I forgot about loosing the HTC taskbar. Looking forward to finally be able to add customs tabs now that I have HTC sense 2.5.
I'm having a problem getting my phone re-locked. I've gone back to the stock ROM, but when I try to run the RhodiumW_SPLRelocker_063.exe nothing happens. Any suggestions or can anyone point me to a thread that can help? Thanks!
UPDATE Sorry I'm a dufus, forgot to run it As Admin
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They also mentioned that the task manager is gone, does that mean that I cant choose what to close and when to close it now?
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I got it last night but haven't had a chance to check it out.
You were right Brent!
I forgot about loosing the HTC taskbar. Looking forward to finally be able to add customs tabs now that I have HTC sense 2.5.
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Which was I right about?
For task manager, download TouchX's task manager.
does anyone plan to dump and repackage for those of us that are not rom dumpy smarty people
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Which was I right about?
For task manager, download TouchX's task manager.
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I thought you were the one that said we would get it cause you saw at Verizon or something? If not nevermind lol.
Thanks I will check out that task manager.
One more thing, is their a cab to add appointments to home tab? I know there is cookie (which I did check out) but I really just want appointments without all the extra stuff. Thanks!
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One more thing, is their a cab to add appointments to home tab? I know there is cookie (which I did check out) but I really just want appointments without all the extra stuff. Thanks!
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I really don't know. I am not upgrading until I find a solution to getting a programs tab that actually works.
I had mentioned in a comment over at WMExperts that the taskmanager is gone... I now realize that you have to go into the All Programs to launch it, which is a drag. I miss the one on the top-right built in to the title bar
I added taskmanager to the quick links so it'll do but I'd really prefer the old one. I also miss the appointments on the homescreen. Boot time is even longer, but flipping through emails, photos and appointments in much snappier. I really enjoy the HTC Peep Twitter tab. The settings tab makeover is well appreciated too.
Overall, I really like this update though
I noticed some slow down with peep so I took it off. It was cool to have it right there but I will stick with the awesome moTweets. Too bad you couldn't add that to a tab.
edit: I do like that it locks now when I hit standby button. No more calling people by accidently (or less frequently).
htc task manager can be added so that the top right arrow is there again. It is attached to the following thread a few times. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=125428
Hey guys Mr. X over at PPCGeeks went through and fixed the MR2 VZW Update...go to PPCGeeks website (or MightyROM website) to download it..
Did they put the good soft keyboard with the 'control' key back in this rom?
I installed MR2 yesterday and everything went fine. Until it came to running for a few hours. When the phone first boots up, everything's great, but after about an hour, it just slows to a crawl. None of the animations are smooth, just recently it took five minutes to flip from one text message to another. But, that hasn't really been so bad as about every other time I go to turn the screen back on, it just doesn't turn on and the only thing I can do is pull the battery.
Yeah, the quick links are nice, the new settings page is great and the email/text message pages flip in the same direction (seriously, who missed that in MR1?) but I went from having a nice, reliable, snappy phone, to a brick of **** that I can hardly stand to use.
I'm going back to MR1.
I was running a custom ROM on Verizon TP2. I first tried to installed the MR2 ROM and as others have said it hung on bootup. I held vol down while pressing reset and the bootloader screen will come up and if you are connected to the PC will go in to USB mode. I ran Task29 which uploaded fine but the TP2 still hung on bootup. I then went to the bootloader screen again and ran the re-lock utility over at PPCGeeks. Tried to book and still hung. Went in to bootloader again and this time reran the MR2 installed which worked and finally it boot all the way up. I still did a clear memory 1234 and everything again booted up with no problems.
I am concerned about the guy above who reported that it would slow to a crawl but many that's a result of not running Task29? Hard to imagine such a fundamental problem. I mean, I don't doubt that it happened but I can't imagine that it will happen on all installs. I just installed mine a few hours ago so I guess I'll know by tomorrow.
Good luck!!
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I am concerned about the guy above who reported that it would slow to a crawl but many that's a result of not running Task29? Hard to imagine such a fundamental problem. I mean, I don't doubt that it happened but I can't imagine that it will happen on all installs. I just installed mine a few hours ago so I guess I'll know by tomorrow.
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This is/was a "clean" phone. never unlocked, no custom roms, just straight from Verizon to me to MR2 so running task29 doesn't seem necessary.
shrug. when I get some free time next year, I'll call vzw and ask them wtf happened.
Hello, all. Couldn't find anything on this elsewhere, so...
Was listening to all the raves about Handcent, so DL'd it from the Market on my EVO & have been using it for several days. Pretty good app & seems all the reviews were pretty much spot-on.
However, last night, when launching the app & selecting a message, my phone shut down & power-cycled. Waited on the phone to boot, went back into the app, selected another message & it happened again.
Hasn't happened since, but the only thing I know is different is that I also DL'd the text-to-speech add-on from the Market.
Anyone else experienced this?
Thanks to all the members & devs for their contributions, insights & info!
TD
I wouldn't blame Handcent for that. The EVO (and most HTC phones) have a reputation for randomly restarting sometimes.
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I wouldn't blame Handcent for that. The EVO (and most HTC phones) have a reputation for randomly restarting sometimes.
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Understood. Wasn't really "blaming" Handcent, but wondering if anyone else had the same experience since both times I was using that app & trying to select messages to read.
Never had that happen when I was just using the stock SMS app.
If it happens again you might be on to something, but I've never had any problems with Handcent in 7 months.
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If it happens again you might be on to something, but I've never had any problems with Handcent in 7 months.
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Thanks, Biles. I've read lots of posts by users that have had nothing but good things to say about Handcent, which is why I was so surprised. Since my post(s), I haven't had this reoccur.
Something else has happened a few times, however. Intermittently, the secondary characters on the keyboard won't pop up. For instance, long-pressing the "c" for an apostrophe or the "k" for a question mark only results in a "c" or "k" being typed on the screen. The only way I've been able to get it to work again is to PC the phone.
While they're probably not related, I haven't had this happen since the latest OTA update from Sprint, but time will tell, I guess.
Thanks for the feedback.
i can help i had this issue to,my problem was that i set a notfication sound from my sd i even had to re flash what i did was i added all to tones i wanted in media in there respective folders in the rom i hope this helps
I am using Handcent and I dont have this issue...however my timestamp is off and even if I set -5 hours, it still doesnt work
as goofy as this sounds, you might want to try a battery pull. or an uninstall and reinstall of hand cent
I've never had any probs with it either in the month I have used it
are you running JIT on your ROM?
I didn't think this would be a development thread so i'm starting it here. This is just some of the random issues I'm having.. and was wondering if anyone else was having these or any other issues.
The unknown notification on lockscreen is apparently for other people too.. and i've noticed it's dealing with the stock messaging app. Has anyone figured out how to turn off the counter on the stock launcher for the stock messaging app if you're using a different app like Handcent?
Random lockups. My phone will not come out of sleep.. or i won't be able to unlock it. nothing will be on the screen and i have to pull the battery in order to do anything.
random FC of an app.. or just not even notified of the FC just get this vibrate then double vibrate and everything crashes back to the home screen. First did it when i started setting up the device. and done it a few times since. I've also had one time that was continuous of "vibrate...double vibrate" over and over and over and over.. you get the picture.. and i had to pull the battery.
Is anyone else having these issues or anything similar? Or should I run back to the store and exchange this sucker?
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I didn't think this would be a development thread so i'm starting it here. This is just some of the random issues I'm having.. and was wondering if anyone else was having these or any other issues.
The unknown notification on lockscreen is apparently for other people too.. and i've noticed it's dealing with the stock messaging app. Has anyone figured out how to turn off the counter on the stock launcher for the stock messaging app if you're using a different app like Handcent?
Random lockups. My phone will not come out of sleep.. or i won't be able to unlock it. nothing will be on the screen and i have to pull the battery in order to do anything.
random FC of an app.. or just not even notified of the FC just get this vibrate then double vibrate and everything crashes back to the home screen. First did it when i started setting up the device. and done it a few times since. I've also had one time that was continuous of "vibrate...double vibrate" over and over and over and over.. you get the picture.. and i had to pull the battery.
Is anyone else having these issues or anything similar? Or should I run back to the store and exchange this sucker?
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No problems here at the moment, had it about a week and havent seen any of the problems you are mentioning. But this is just for me.
I get this hard crash (vibrate... double vibrate... soft reboot) at random times. It seems to be when I'm running several apps at once. For example, driving to work,I use (Google) Navigation and Doggcatcher for playing podcasts, while GPS and Bluetooth are both enabled.
These apps have been rock solid for me with the 5 other Android phones I've had. Besides, the crashes happen with other combinations of apps. Come to think of it, audio playback is usually (always?) involved, be it with Xiia or the stupid built-in music app.
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random FC of an app.. or just not even notified of the FC just get this vibrate then double vibrate and everything crashes back to the home screen. First did it when i started setting up the device. and done it a few times since. I've also had one time that was continuous of "vibrate...double vibrate" over and over and over and over.. you get the picture.. and i had to pull the battery.
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I get this hard crash (vibrate... double vibrate... soft reboot) at random times. It seems to be when I'm running several apps at once. For example, driving to work,I use (Google) Navigation and Doggcatcher for playing podcasts, while GPS and Bluetooth are both enabled.
These apps have been rock solid for me with the 5 other Android phones I've had. Besides, the crashes happen with other combinations of apps. Come to think of it, audio playback is usually (always?) involved, be it with Xiia or the stupid built-in music app.
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that's what i've been noticing. but sometimes i'm not even running many apps. i haven't put much on the phone since i've been having these issues, but these apps work perfectly even on my G1. i think i'm just having odd issues with my phone pretty sure its getting exchanged on monday.
I hav the odd vibrating too...Not sure if I should return the phone or not.
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i think the "odd vibrating" where its a single vibration.. then 2 quick vibrations.. is a sign of an FC.. not 100% sure.. but thats what i see going on when it happens to me. I've also noticed when i'm outside and thinks i'm selecting things or moving the trackball thing. always to the right.. i think my phone is faulty..
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i think the "odd vibrating" where its a single vibration.. then 2 quick vibrations.. is a sign of an FC.. not 100% sure.. but thats what i see going on when it happens to me. I've also noticed when i'm outside and thinks i'm selecting things or moving the trackball thing. always to the right.. i think my phone is faulty..
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I like that it vibrate to tell you, but other people don't get that?Maybe mines is faulty too?
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I get the double vibrate and bam, FC's. Usually when im trying to open up and or lots of stuff at once on my phone or using a different launcher "adw" or others and it would happen. Wheres the fix ey.
is anyone having a problem with notifications? i use GoSms, and it doesn't seem to sound the ringtone i have selected, the message just comes in silently..... and same with Beejive IM, and i think K9 mail. all these things worked perfectly on my EPIC 4G.
i was using handcent.. and it was working fine.. minus the unlock screen unknown notification. but everything else has been making sounds just fine.
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i was using handcent.. and it was working fine.. minus the unlock screen unknown notification. but everything else has been making sounds just fine.
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Dang ok, well I may have to unroot mine if possible, and take it back, haha. So I'll be watching for a response to your question in the other thread.
Edit: I fixed my notifications..... somehow my notification volume had been turned all the way down, so I wasn't getting any sounds for texts, emails, etc. Not sure how it got turned down, but sometimes I guess settings can get jarred by various things we do to our phones.
What the hell is going on. I tried resetting and everything, even exchanged the device and the new one is doing the same thing! Also vibrating and force closing it is getting on my nerves! The followig seems to happen after a while I am TIRED of having to turn of my phone and turn it back on! ~ I go to play a .mp3 it says " FIle type not supported"...My .mp3 ringtone does not work the phone just vibrates the selected ringtone doesnt work. I got too take a picture or record video it says "Camera Failed"....I get a visual voicemail....the "play" button is grayed out and I have to turn off phone turn it BACK On just to check my voicemail. Also occassioally my sms wont work either. I turn my phone off and on every morning and throughout day I notice this and its getting REAL annoying !
Well first off, this isn't a software flaw, this is specific to you, as we have many users here including myself who are using these phones daily without the issues you are describing.
You had said that the issue was with an mp3, can you upload that somewhere for us to test on our phones?
As far as the camera and visual voicemail, I've never heard of that issue before, perhaps you ended up with a bad phone again?
I am getting the frequent force close with messaging. I also have had problems with the camera and idk about the mp3 stuff I haven't put any ringtones on the phone yet. This is getting really annoying I agree.
I don't have any issues with mine? Have you guys done anything like rooting or flashing anything?
Nope, completely stock. The most I have done is take a screen shot lol.
hmm maybe some have a defect? It's not all SK4g's though, as some of us have no issues at all. I would suggest getting it replaced by T-Mobile, as this is a factory defect. not sure why that happened to you guys. has anyone else had these issues and found any fixes?
That's kinda tough the hearest t-mobile is like 4 hours from here /:
One of my friends who went with me on the trip to get the SK also got one and he says he's never gotten a force close so you may be right. But could it have anything to do with the amount of texts I send/receive? Because I have to admit it is pretty excessive. The failing to send messages when I am receiving one simultaneously is expected, but not the force closes in my opinion.
It shouldn't force close on you. I know mine fails to send every once in a while too, as I text a lot (kinda the reason I got the phone). failing to send isn't as big of a deal, as it notifies you and you just have to click resend. Not entirely sure why it's force closing though? I wonder if a logcat might help? if you have adb installed, you can try adb logcat and see what shows up when you force close? if we can find the issue there, it might be fixable from our end. all depends on where the flaw lies/if it's just a bad apk somehow or if there's an actual hardware issue or something.
I'll do a log next time there is a fc, I'm having another issue or it may be related, but this one is with WidgetLocker I believe. Sometimes when I go to unlock the phone it'll freeze up and then I dont know how to explain it, but it almost seems like it resets but it really doesnt. The phone will blackout for a little then the homescreen will pop up and service will gone for a while until the cards are read just like if I rebooted.
That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.
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That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.
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Yeah I know it does that from time to time, but on my previous phone it wouldn't do that reboot thing where it would lose connection then resend my latest text messages once it reconnected.
I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.
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I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.
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That's what I was thinking too, I'm gonna uninstall it for a bit and see if anything changes.
is anyone else having an issue with notification volume? everytime i reboot my SK, my notification volume gets pushed all the way down to nothing, so i don't get a sound notification for texts, emails, etc, until i move the notif. volume back up in my settings. i did root with the one-click for the Epic 4G.
This is a new UI so alot of the apps i.e. widgets you may put on will cause issues. If you like certain apps contact the dev so your device is supported correctly. Still to new to get mad at it till sum of the bugs get worked out. I did notice a couple of times when I left screen on in pocket on accident that when I go to use it again it doesn't respond to any touch but can move courser around till rebooted then its ok. If some don't already know the sk4g is almost the same as the epic. The sk4g is still a badass phone for 100bucks.
Same as the OP
I know this is a little old, but I've experienced the same problem as the OP so it seems they are not alone with this problem.
I actually tried two different newly formatted SD cards (because I thought it may have been the SD card), and still would have the problem. Then I actually did swap phones about a month ago and it seemed the problem would now take several days to resurface instead of several hours. And I could deal with that.
Since the OTA update about 2 weeks ago, the phone has been back on it's original BS as the OP posted and it's driving me nuts. I actually missed some emergency calls last night because the mp3 ringtone didn't work so I'm finding a solution to this issue today or trashing this phone.
My belief is that there is something interfering with the phone's ability to read the SD card for media. Because other apps I have that save to the SD card or read from it work fine. So I'm going to master reset it and not download any of my apps and see what happens when I set an mp3 ringtone. If it makes it through the day with no hiccups, I'll slowly add back one app at a time until hopefully I can find the culprit.
bipoler if you'd like, we can exchange via PM what apps we both have downloaded and see if we have some in common that may be problems.
I'll post back with any progress.
I've been having the problem with ringtones not working, just getting silence when I get a call. for me it seems to happen when I set a ringtone from the app Zedge, I don't think it happens when I use ringtones from the Android System, which would make sense if the issue is related to reading the sdcard. gonna go back to a system ringtone and see what happens today.
Yeah my phone had all those problems, but I installed the Lightning rom and all those problems went away, except for the ones about messages failing...I text A LOT
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Thanks for that info on the Lightning Rom. I will check that out. Phone has been working flawlessly all day with the mp3 ringtone and no extra apps besides the master reset. I might give it until the morning before I start putting them back on.
On stock id install so many apps that ran on the background that id get delay from opening closing swiping and turning onthe phone.. so I wiped it installed a custom rom and just kept the essentials.. havnt had a problem since... well.. occasionly ill have to odi but that's on purpose
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What's going on with notifications? They are showing up at completely random times on my Pixel. Just got a gmail notification from an email that arrived 3 hours ago. This has been happening constantly. I wake up in the morning, look at the phone, see no emails, then suddenly a bunch pop up. I thought it might be related to some sort of doze feature, but it's happening even when I've been using my phone quite regularly.
This is ridiculous. Never had this happen before.
I agree. It's gotta be doze.
I'm shocked this isn't a widely discussed topic. It's happening non-stop. I just missed an email fro 4 hours ago and I was even using my phone several times to make calls during that time, so it wasn't even idle.
WTF is going on?
I KNOW YOU SAID GMAIL APP
However, a LOT of apps are not updated for 7.1 so any number of old apps that control notifications in some way may be breaking things.
It sounds exactly like something is interfering with the ability of phone to check or deliver notifications on time. Like a faulty app making a request or insisting some loop then crashing finally and allowing notifications through.
I think Doze is interfering with SOME of my notifications, but my problems don't seem as severe as all of yours.
You can troubleshoot by removing old apps and testing if notifications are blocked, then add apps back 1 by 1.
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i noticed this non stop until I disabled battery optimization for those applications (calendar, email, messenger, gmail, etc). Battery is still fine and I have zero issues with notifications
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i noticed this non stop until I disabled battery optimization for those applications (calendar, email, messenger, gmail, etc). Battery is still fine and I have zero issues with notifications
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It would be *really* interesting to know exactly which app's (the full list? you disabled battery optimization on. Could you list them all in more detail?
I just disabled it on Calendar, Gmail, Messenger and I am still getting delayed notifications in Gmail!!!
This is a *BAD* problem, Google!
I know people who had this exact issue on the Nexus 6P. It made the phone *unusable*. The Pixel may not be quite as bad, but it's not acceptable to me.
I'm wondering if some of the other "Google Services" like all the "com.android...." app's or maybe some of the qualcomm, like com.qualcomm.fastdormancy maybe? I guess I can start trying them, but there are a lot, so if you know the key ones, it would help.
Thanks for any further info.
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Apparently this problem with Gmail is discussed here -- many have had this issue. Google should be ON THIS or they will lose customers:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...tars Reporter Opened&groupby=&sort=&id=197805
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Ok... I just installed Maildroid Pro and didn't see the problem with it, and coincidentally also received Gmail messages at the same time... even after uninstalling Maildroid, Gmail is still now showing notifications... but perhaps the delay is just still random. Like some component of the OS happens to be loaded right now or "not dozing" and so everything is fast... but time will tell if the delay comes back.
This really needs to be fully ironed out by Google. How can they release brand new devices that don't receive timely notifications?? Isn't that something "mission critical" that you would test? This is a major error by Google -- hope they fix it fast, but some people have been waiting for a year with their Nexus devices and apparently it's still not fixed, even on 7.1.1.
Happens on my 6p too. Definitely a 7.1 issue
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It would be *really* interesting to know exactly which app's (the full list? you disabled battery optimization on. Could you list them all in more detail?
I just disabled it on Calendar, Gmail, Messenger and I am still getting delayed notifications in Gmail!!!
This is a *BAD* problem, Google!
I know people who had this exact issue on the Nexus 6P. It made the phone *unusable*. The Pixel may not be quite as bad, but it's not acceptable to me.
I'm wondering if some of the other "Google Services" like all the "com.android...." app's or maybe some of the qualcomm, like com.qualcomm.fastdormancy maybe? I guess I can start trying them, but there are a lot, so if you know the key ones, it would help.
Thanks for any further info.
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Apparently this problem with Gmail is discussed here -- many have had this issue. Google should be ON THIS or they will lose customers:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...tars Reporter Opened&groupby=&sort=&id=197805
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Ok... I just installed Maildroid Pro and didn't see the problem with it, and coincidentally also received Gmail messages at the same time... even after uninstalling Maildroid, Gmail is still now showing notifications... but perhaps the delay is just still random. Like some component of the OS happens to be loaded right now or "not dozing" and so everything is fast... but time will tell if the delay comes back.
This really needs to be fully ironed out by Google. How can they release brand new devices that don't receive timely notifications?? Isn't that something "mission critical" that you would test? This is a major error by Google -- hope they fix it fast, but some people have been waiting for a year with their Nexus devices and apparently it's still not fixed, even on 7.1.1.
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Most likely an individual application problem. It's not the phone or it would affect all apps.
I get timely notifications for text, calendar, and Keep. I don't use notifications for email so cannot comment on that.
It does look like perhaps turning off the battery optimization for Gmail may have fixed this? Either that or my phone just hasn't yet had time to go into "deep doze" vs. lighter doze. I'll be watching during my 15 day potential refund period . Other than this issue, there are maybe a few minor tweaks that would be nice, but it's otherwise an amazing phone so I want to keep it!
Notifications on the Pixel phone are pure garbage IMO. Half the time I don't get one really. Either the LED light does not light up or Ambient display does nothing. Love everything about this phone except notifications. I am almost thinking about switching to the Oneplus 3T because of this...I hope Google is aware how crappy they are on this phone....
As a member pointed out, it's not the phone but something in 7.1. So no point saying u will return the phone. On my OP3 also i had delays in notification using cm14. So ya it's probably something software related and can be fixed easily.
Hmm weird that I'm not seeing this issues. If Gmail is giving your the issue use another email client?
See topic at Pixel support site:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/phone-by-google/7cgUThrhS7U
My post there:
I'm actually a Pixel (Android 7.1) owner now (never mind my user name). I've had the notification delay issue too -- mainly on Gmail. I disabled battery optimization and that seemed to have helped some during the day when I use my phone from time to time. What I noticed is that after leaving it sitting at night (tho' still plugged in) it seemed to have entered "deep doze" perhaps (tho' it's not supposed to while plugged in, if I understand that correctly). At any rate, it missed a Gmail notification in the early morning, but then after "waking up" the phone it seems to have been acting normally through the rest of the day.
I have a Galaxy S7 that I was using as a test comparison. It's on Android 6.X (Marshmallow -- also supposed to have doze) and it got an email notification no problem this morning when the Pixel failed.
Google really needs to listen to this and fix it!!! Professional business users cannot afford to miss email notifications!!!
The problem is also on 7.1.1 not just 7.1
Gmail gave me sync issues (and therefore delayed notifications) on my g4 with 6.0 once. Couldn't get it to work until I wiped the data for it.
On pixel, you also need to be sure the data saver option isn't the culprit. Either turn it off, or make Gmail an exception. That option will cause delayed notifications for nearly any app, as it won't be syncing hardly at all on mobile networks.
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Unrestricted data usage (i.e. no data saver) and background data are both set to "on" for Gmail in my Pixel (7.1)... battery optimization is also turned off.
I now believe the problem is associated with "deep doze". I appear to get Gmail notifications ok during the day, but if the phone sits idle overnight, then by the morning I will NOT receive Gmail notifications until the phone has been woken up. I actually have to manually check / refresh Gmail and then after that it appears to be "awake."
This problem is really serious -- very unprofessional to not have timely notifications in a "professional" device / OS. Android / Google teams need to escalate this. I've seen reports since way back in 2015 on Nexuses.. some people have pounded Google w/ requests for over a year and this is still not fixed yet!!!
There must be a way to fully disable "deep doze" for an app and all related services required for its operation.
This tempts me to consider delving into AOSP and cooking up a ROM which would give total control over doze and anything else needed to make the phone actually *work*.
so at the people who got problems... do you marked the app that are effected in the settings/battery opt-out for the battery improving option in standby so they can stay connect for push?
wedouglas said:
I'm shocked this isn't a widely discussed topic. It's happening non-stop. I just missed an email fro 4 hours ago and I was even using my phone several times to make calls during that time, so it wasn't even idle.
WTF is going on?
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I have delayed gmails on my xperia z3. Always have. If you want an instant message, use an instant message client. Emails are seen as something you can wait for, to save battery life. Obviously if you are also having delays on Facebook Messenger etc then you have some other problem.
Webern said:
I have delayed gmails on my xperia z3. Always have. If you want an instant message, use an instant message client. Emails are seen as something you can wait for, to save battery life. Obviously if you are also having delays on Facebook Messenger etc then you have some other problem.
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That's hardly a solution. That doesn't fly in the business world, nor do I would I want companies and clients messaging me on a bunch of random instant message apps.
wedouglas said:
That's hardly a solution. That doesn't fly in the business world, nor do I would I want companies and clients messaging me on a bunch of random instant message apps.
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In the "business world" - that is, on my work pc - my emails arrive immediately. But i'm not using gmail on my phone. You probably want something a little more robust if you're going to rely on emails turning up immediately. They were never designed to be instant, or secure.