Where are all the decent games? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

Is it just me or is there a lack of decent games available for the HD2. I have Xtract, and enjoy it too, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of other games around. I'm not talking rubbish time killers. I'm on about the ones with good graphics and G-Sensor integration.
Anyone shed any light?
And before anyone mentions it, I don't want an iPhone, or games console. I would just like to play a reasonably good game or 2 on my HD2.
Seg

Hi Mate,
Have you tried this;
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I have games such as Avatar, Assasins Creed, Sonic (total about 15 games loaded onto my HD2). Enjoy

If you want a few games for when you're bored, you can try one of these:
Experiment 13
Bejeweld 2
Ivy the Kiwi
Virtual Pool Mobile
Worms
Flight Commander
Zuma
Archibald's Adventures
Resco Bubbles (G-sensor)
Resco Snake (G-sensor)
Morphgear (SNES, Genesis, Gameboy etc. emulator)
These are cool games I like.
I hope this will help you.

Hi guys.
Thanks for your replies.
Awliyah, tried your link mate, but come up dead, but google is my friend, thanx.
Nafi, tried Experiment 13, not bad.
Thanx again guys
Seg

Seg2009 said:
Awliyah, tried your link mate, but come up dead, but google is my friend, thanx.
Seg
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Apologies, here's the correct link;
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awliyah said:
Apologies, here's the correct link;
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Thanx mate. Thats what my friend google gave me. Cheers
Don't look a bad site.
Seg
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i'd suggest trying fpsece - playstation emu..its very, very good
www.fpsece.net
get the supporters version 5euros+ its well worth it

skilty said:
i'd suggest trying fpsece - playstation emu..its very, very good
www.fpsece.net
get the supporters version 5euros+ its well worth it
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I tried the free one, couldnt really get the controls to work to well.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I tried the free one, couldnt really get the controls to work to well.
Seg
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You should really get the supporter version. I got multi-touch working, supporter version includes more frames to add keys (unlike the 4x3 in the free version) I think you get 7x6
More options. Ive been playing RPGs, gran turismo with no problems.

The thing is that there are lots and lots of working apps and GAMES for winmo But the problem is that most of them are very graphically UGLY! such as assassins creed, avatar, asphalt, ferrari evolution and the longest list in the world goes on! Those are all ugly! and pixelated!
ive DL an play so many games and the only ones that i keep are the ones that are graphically good. those are, and are the only ones ive have on my HD2 are
crayon physics
experiment 13
xtract
flight commander
starcraft
teeter
resco snakes
oregon trail (not the best, but itll do)
sbp brin evolution
pool rebel
simpsons 2 (not the arcade one!)
archbalchs adventure
and that's it!
I have not found any good games that are both good and graphically better.
If anyone can add to my list, id appreciate it!

Ivy the Kiwi rocks my world.

awliyah said:
Apologies, here's the correct link;
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Umm.. i just want to say, I FREAKING LOVE YOU SO MUCH MAN, thank you so much for this sight, i looked SO much for it. i love you man. LOVE you. haha
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I agree with you. There aren't many games that have goods graphics.
But these games I would add to your list that I enjoy to play:
Tiki Towers
Super Boxing 2 (with BsB tweak)
Boom Blox
Electopia
NFS (maybe)
lemonspeakers said:
The thing is that there are lots and lots of working apps and GAMES for winmo But the problem is that most of them are very graphically UGLY! such as assassins creed, avatar, asphalt, ferrari evolution and the longest list in the world goes on! Those are all ugly! and pixelated!
ive DL an play so many games and the only ones that i keep are the ones that are graphically good. those are, and are the only ones ive have on my HD2 are
crayon physics
experiment 13
xtract
flight commander
starcraft
teeter
resco snakes
oregon trail (not the best, but itll do)
sbp brin evolution
pool rebel
simpsons 2 (not the arcade one!)
archbalchs adventure
and that's it!
I have not found any good games that are both good and graphically better.
If anyone can add to my list, id appreciate it!
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lemonspeakers said:
The thing is that there are lots and lots of working apps and GAMES for winmo But the problem is that most of them are very graphically UGLY! such as assassins creed, avatar, asphalt, ferrari evolution and the longest list in the world goes on! Those are all ugly! and pixelated!
ive DL an play so many games and the only ones that i keep are the ones that are graphically good. those are, and are the only ones ive have on my HD2 are
crayon physics
experiment 13
xtract
flight commander
starcraft
teeter
resco snakes
oregon trail (not the best, but itll do)
sbp brin evolution
pool rebel
simpsons 2 (not the arcade one!)
archbalchs adventure
and that's it!
I have not found any good games that are both good and graphically better.
If anyone can add to my list, id appreciate it!
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I know what you mean. I FREAKIN HATE how the iPhone/iTouch comes nowhere near the hardware that the hd2 has, but as far as games and apps it has some of the best graphics around. I know not all Windows Mobile phones have the same specs as the iPhones all do, but they DEFINITELY need to take advantage of the higher end models.\
btw, that hd2blogs is a warez site. Dunno why that idiot makes it so obvious.

awliyah said:
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Please do NOT post links to websites that provide warez, it is AGAINST the rules of XDA. Please remove the link.
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GUys,
Warez is not allowed on this site. Read the rules.
Thanks
WB

wacky.banana said:
GUys,
Warez is not allowed on this site. Read the rules.
Thanks
WB
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Apologies...will bear in mind. Thanks for removing.

don't expect much
Lets be real here guys...to be honest looking for any high caliber game currently for the hd2 is a lost cause. Unless you're playing games using an emulator (morphgear, fpsece...which I might add aren't perfect...oldschool compared to today's games, and bring a load of headaches i.e. control issues, mulitiouch issues, gamepad issues, sound issues - (be prepared to do your homework to get good playability out of them) there just isn't much being offered.
High quality WVGA games are extremely hard to find. Now bear in mind I'm not saying there are no fun games...but don't expect high quality out of the games from gameloft, etc. They don't focus on the windows mobile platforms...i.e try playing need for speed undercover on the hd2 vs the same game on the ipod touch FIRST GENERATION. The 1G Ipod version puts the hd2 version's to shame.
Zenonia 2, the new squaresoft rpg game coming out, etc...none of it is available for our precious hd2 unfortunately. I certainly didn't get the hd2 for gaming, but after using my Ipod 1g for a very long time, and coming to windows mobile for the first time w/ the hd2...I didn't really expect the huge gap in the amount of quality current generation games vs apple. I had actually thought because of the sheer hardware power, the hd2 would be a gaming powerhouse (which it could be), but I really have been blown away by the huge lack of quality game software.
Anything apple wins because of the apps available argument...it does have some truth in it (regardless of hardware specs). W/o xda I'd really be regretting the purchase.

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Better games

hey guys. I just thought.. since we can find the thread for developers working together to port android / linux n stuff like that onto the hd2, with a bounty as well..
Why not better games for the hd2? im pretty sure the hd2 can handle games with as good graphics / gameplay as the iphone. or probably even better. but its so tough to find fun games that get u addicted.Even if u do, u probably have to pay like 10-15bucks or more for it. I honestly think that's just crazy.
I know this might be because the hd2 is one of the few WM phones that has incredible specs..the first with multi touch support as well, therefore not many developers are willing to develop games for WM, which probably only hd2 or the toshiba phone can support. I'm hoping some of the great developers on xda can help us hd2 users out!
I've got some of the better PPC games like Prince of Persia n Assassin's Creed and all.. but honestly, as much as I hate to say it, look at iphone games. Graphics are easily better. It also doesnt have to be too complicated ? short simple games just to kill time when say.. ur friend is late in meeting u or something like that would also be cool, as long as it has awesome graphics n good gameplay
I also think all hd2 users would greatly appreciate it if the games made use of multi touch. I have the Asterix n Obelix game with a virtual gamepad,which i really like. But it doesn't support multi touch n that's just kinda disappointing..
Haters can hate all they want. Sorry if i get anyone upset, im a Newbie here. It's well known that though overall the HD2 can kick iphone's ass.. in terms of gaming, we can't really put up much of a fight
You need to look a bit further mate.
For starters there is FPSECE... a full speed fully functional playstation emulator (with MultiTouch for HD2). Meaning you can play the entire library of PSOne games on your phone.
Then there is morphgear... also an emulator... capable of playing the entire library of NES,SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance and GameGear titles.
I dont care what anyone says... i very much doubt that the iPhone has as many quality games as the original Playstation let alone all the other consoles on top of that.
Happy Hunting!
Also... before anyone says anything... yes the IPhone has a Playstation emulator also but:
a) you will need to jailbreak your device to use it
and
b) It is a complete joke compared to FPSECE
see comparison here:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13819
Audio Oblivion said:
You need to look a bit further mate.
For starters there is FPSECE... a full speed fully functional playstation emulator (with MultiTouch for HD2). Meaning you can play the entire library of PSOne games on your phone.
Then there is morphgear... also an emulator... capable of playing the entire library of NES,SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance and GameGear titles.
I dont care what anyone says... i very much doubt that the iPhone has as many quality games as the original Playstation let alone all the other consoles on top of that.
Happy Hunting!
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thanks a lot for your comment man. and yea i know bout FPSECE, thinking of getting the supporters version for multi touch support and all too. lol. but i dunno i kinda like simple games too, just to kill a few minutes if say.. im waitin for a friend or something like that. games like paper toss or bubble wrap are pretty fun too. and yea i know about WiToss, but even that's not as good. And just so everyone knows.. i am not an iphone fanboy in any way. lol. i love my hd2 way more than the iphone. just wished the hd2's specs were made btr use of.
Ok i get what you are saying. Here is a list of standard WinMo games i have currently installed (if you search you shall find):
Teeter
Xtrakt
Virtual Pool Mobile
Zen Table Tennis
Warcraft 2
DragonBall
Need For Speed Undercover
Electopia Demo
Arcade Park
Boom Blox
Crayon Physics
Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2
Experiment 13
Pangya
Warfare Inc
Tiger Woods 09
Prince of Persia HD
Drum Kit Ace
Spore
Tower Defense
Doom 2 RPG
Flight Commander
Assasins Creed 2
Crazy Taxi
Monopoly Here and Now
Worms 2010
Mini Golf Wacky Worlds
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Ok i get what you are saying. Here is a list of standard WinMo games i have currently installed (if you search you shall find):
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Thanks a lot
i have most of the games on this list.. but im gonna try out those i don't already have. thanks!
Audio Oblivion said:
Ok i get what you are saying. Here is a list of standard WinMo games i have currently installed (if you search you shall find):
Teeter
Xtrakt
Virtual Pool Mobile
Zen Table Tennis
Warcraft 2
DragonBall
Need For Speed Undercover
Electopia Demo
Arcade Park
Boom Blox
Crayon Physics
Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2
Experiment 13
Pangya
Warfare Inc
Tiger Woods 09
Prince of Persia HD
Drum Kit Ace
Spore
Tower Defense
Doom 2 RPG
Flight Commander
Assasins Creed 2
Crazy Taxi
Monopoly Here and Now
Worms 2010
Mini Golf Wacky Worlds
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hi, where can i find all those games for download? are they free? or paid? links? thanks in advance!
Call of duty MW2 graphics are a joke just like all the other games
Jammie_1989 said:
Call of duty MW2 graphics are a joke just like all the other games
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yea.. the whole problem is because HD2 is one of the only few windows phones that can support better graphics, while still providing smooth gameplay..
anyway, guys check out http://wvga.pda4you.org/.
pretty good collection, updates regularly, free!
i agreeeee!!
i agree completely with what you are saying football fan! i too love my htc hd2! but it almost appears like developers are just not interested in making "clever" and "simple" yet still entertainer games for hd2. btw every time i look at the marketplace i almost laugh and how inferior it is to the app store (also not a iphone fanboy, but have to admit i am a app store fan boy for the time being!)
Is there a car driving game with g-sensor support? Asphalt 4 HD don´t work with g-sensor.
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i agree completely with what you are saying football fan! i too love my htc hd2! but it almost appears like developers are just not interested in making "clever" and "simple" yet still entertainer games for hd2. btw every time i look at the marketplace i almost laugh and how inferior it is to the app store (also not a iphone fanboy, but have to admit i am a app store fan boy for the time being!)
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yea thats true i think im an app store fanboy too. oh well hope some kind programmers are gonna make some awesome games that can utilize the awesome specs on our hd2
Bib_x said:
Is there a car driving game with g-sensor support? Asphalt 4 HD don´t work with g-sensor.
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im not too sure man.. u can check out that site i posted. shld be able to find it there.
Bib_x said:
Is there a car driving game with g-sensor support? Asphalt 4 HD don´t work with g-sensor.
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Need For Speed Undercover has a g-sensor version.
Nice one mate, wkd link!
football_fan said:
yea.. the whole problem is because HD2 is one of the only few windows phones that can support better graphics, while still providing smooth gameplay..
anyway, guys check out http://wvga.pda4you.org/.
pretty good collection, updates regularly, free!
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Might be a stupid question, but: Is this site legal?
regards
1IV54IV3 said:
Might be a stupid question, but: Is this site legal?
regards
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that site is illegal delete it!!
Hi there guys, i know its been quite awhile since anyone posted here..
I was just wondering if anyone would be interested in sharing their top few games for the hd2, on fpsece and any other games? I'm sure some of us might learn bout games that we have not heard about before
FPSECE
-Street fighter alpha 3
-monster rancher
-gran turismo 3
others
-Zuma
-super ko boxing 2
-colorstone's Tower Defence.

Where does one get "HD Games" for the HD2?? (Droid beating WM?)

Hey been getting irked abit that the windows marketplace sucks.. I know EA has games on their site one can download.. however.. if you noticed lets take Need for speed games. WM version looks o.0 crap. While Iphone and hell Droid versions of the game are \o/ and fun with motion control.
Now Im sure the HD2 has some good things too.. but where are they hiding? Anyone know? Or is this online game world turning into iphone droid only (For the best gameplay stuff)
Quite like Asphalt 4d - motion control is a feature but I turned it off. Xtract (free) is good too with nice graphics. If you want really good HD style games though on the HD2 get the playstation emulator and you'll never look back (and other phone owners will be very jealous). There's a free version but it's worth getting the supporter version as it makes it a lot easier to control the games. Search "tekken 3 on hd2" on youtube and you'll get the idea.
James
So the supported version plays better on HD2? I tried the regular one before.. didnt get anywhere with it.. Now before I do get it... is it enjoyable WITHOUT Cobolt ps3 controller software?
I guess im more annoyed that the only reason I like my iphone 2g.. is just for its games.. has some nice ones, even my G1 has nice ones, then I have my HD2.. and all I can say is "My Puzzle Quest is fun.." >.> Yea.. heh.
totally agree that there aren't that much quality games for hd2, but you might give a go to:
Electopia
Experiment 13
OddBlob
Platypus
Catcha Mouse
Police Range
Super Boxing
Tiki Towers
Droplets
These are really good games and I would say that their quality even matches the ones made for an iphone.
Mysticales said:
Hey been getting irked abit that the windows marketplace sucks.. I know EA has games on their site one can download.. however.. if you noticed lets take Need for speed games. WM version looks o.0 crap. While Iphone and hell Droid versions of the game are \o/ and fun with motion control.
Now Im sure the HD2 has some good things too.. but where are they hiding? Anyone know? Or is this online game world turning into iphone droid only (For the best gameplay stuff)
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You're right. The game selection sucks. Lots of the developers are saying it's just too hard to develop a nice graphics game for Windows Mobile. While some like Xtrakt or Project 13 are ok, they aren't fully supported. They require little work arounds that I just feel makes the games not live up to the "fully supported" title. They just work. Then there are some that are just sprites cut into different poses like the ones Zarpy makes. They aren't bad but not the high def like you're asking for. So far, yeah the PSX emulator will be your best bet. It's pretty much the only one worth having and paying for in my opinion.
there are abunch of games just have to look.
NFL 2010
NBA 2010
Assasins Creed
LASW
Qualcom
Spidrman
Avatar
Splinter Cell
Hawx
Earthworm Jim
Sonic Racing
Bejeweled 2
Machines at War
Xtrakt
DopwWars
Spy Hunter
Search for
HD2apps
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Sorry
Dont forget about Cops nad Robbers
Pls stop posting Warez links....
There are plenty of games out there but we dont need Warez links round here.....
If you want a list of what games are available try here
Or here is another one I found
There are tons of these threads about... Just Google it..
Plebs posting Warez is getting worse these days.....
Here's anther thread I want closed out...
Do you want XDA to loose its credibility and get shut down?
You want something? Go and pay for it like the rest of us!
Eroc, one can search sure, but you got any links to what your posting? Now that blogspot had some good apps I needed. Like the Jspa program manager.
Snowblind what are you on?? Who is asking for Warez?! Im asking what games are good that are in higher quality. Marketplace sucks for finding anything decent, even going to EAs website doesnt give you much. Yet the HD2 came with some "HD" versions of games. yet you cant find them.
Now forum posts I know there is a "Apps thread" and so, however its not like its linking "Hey here is EA, Gameloft, website for HD2 games" or so.
So again, so far no warez links are on this thread, nor was it being asked for. Im just getting annoyed that Android phones of the same thing for HTC are getting better games then Windows mobile is.

not enough power for ps2 roms ??

hi,i take it the experia play wont be able to handle a ps2 emulator and roms ? FPSE is good but a lot of roms wont work & crash a lot
kenf2210 said:
hi,i take it the experia play wont be able to handle a ps2 emulator and roms ? FPSE is good but a lot of roms wont work & crash a lot
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Sadly it is the case.. It's too great a task to emulate a system with 1/4 the hardware of the host. Sony could do it, I fathom, because they can reprogram all they like as the original kit is theirs, but it is not in their plans as it would cost them dear.
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My old 2.2 ghz duo core PC with 4670 Radeon couldn't smoothly run PS2 emulators.
A stock Xperia Play has no chance.
An overclocked Play at 1.4-1.6 ghz with a massively optimised PS2 emulator MIGHT be able to run some games smoothly.
But it won't ever happen.
No developer is going to spend all his time doing this for free, and based on the extremely poor PS1 sales, Sony won't bother either.
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My old 2.2 ghz duo core PC with 4670 Radeon couldn't smoothly run PS2 emulators.
A stock Xperia Play has no chance.
An overclocked Play at 1.4-1.6 ghz with a massively optimised PS2 emulator MIGHT be able to run some games smoothly.
But it won't ever happen.
No developer is going to spend all his time doing this for free, and based on the extremely poor PS1 sales, Sony won't bother either.
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i doubt the PS1 sales would be so low if they had some decent titles available.
I don't think they care about their PS1 sales at all. The cost of making an emulator (provided that you MADE the original hardware), ripping some ROMs off their database and encrypting them is minute. I am sure licensing Final Fantasy games alone would be more costly than any other cost involved.
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i doubt the PS1 sales would be so low if they had some decent titles available.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
The graphics and gameplay are quite bad in all honesty in PS1 games.
The Xperia Play is getting a nice list of games worth purchasing that are way better than the PS1 titles.
Backstab, Spiderman, Nova 2, Assassins Creed, Guns n Glory, Bruce Lee, Cordy, Asphalt 6, Sacred Odessy, Tom Clancy.
The list goes on and on and on. All of these games are excellent. And Gameloft and Glu and others are continuing to make excellent games.
The graphics rock, the games rock.
And best of all, you can pick them up for £1. (about 1.5 USA dollars).
Incredible value for money.
Why bother with PS1 games again?
Why bother with PS1 games again?
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Maybe because almost every game in the Android market was probably taken from a PS1 game idea or from prior consoles, and shown in its best quality there? Or even in Android itself?
Backstab, Assasin's Creed and so on can be perfectly compared to Tenchu and Metal Gear Solid.
Cordy is an absolute COPY of Pandemonium.
There were Spiderman games in PS1.
Asphalt has much more interesting counterparts (Gran Turismo, Need for Speed, Ridge Racer, Test Drive...).
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six... erm... well, featured in PSX.
And needless to say, there are 6 or 7 sagas of fighting games which wipe the floor with Bruce Lee.
Sacred Oddysey? Take Diablo, Vagrant Story... surely those games which stood the test of time did not need any DLC to keep gamers hooked.
NOVA 2 does even have a counterpart in the PSStore: Syphon Filter.
I won't even comment on a tower defense game such as Guns and Glory.
The list does go on and on and on and on. I'll pick interesting gameplay for 2002-worthy graphics any time.
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Maybe because almost every game in the Android market was probably taken from a PS1 game idea or from prior consoles, and shown in its best quality there? Or even in Android itself?
Backstab, Assasin's Creed and so on can be perfectly compared to Tenchu and Metal Gear Solid.
Cordy is an absolute COPY of Pandemonium.
There were Spiderman games in PS1.
Asphalt has much more interesting counterparts (Gran Turismo, Need for Speed, Ridge Racer, Test Drive...).
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six... erm... well, featured in PSX.
And needless to say, there are 6 or 7 sagas of fighting games which wipe the floor with Bruce Lee.
Sacred Oddysey? Take Diablo, Vagrant Story... surely those games which stood the test of time did not need any DLC to keep gamers hooked.
NOVA 2 does even have a counterpart in the PSStore: Syphon Filter.
I won't even comment on a tower defense game such as Guns and Glory.
The list does go on and on and on and on. I'll pick interesting gameplay for 2002-worthy graphics any time.
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I have been gaming since before the spectrum 48k. Playstation games are copies of their previous incarnations of games machines before them too.
I guess you started gaming when the ps1 came out and your mind sees it as "the originator of everything"
Don't get me wrong, I have a ton of ps1 games on my phone and play them with fpse. Currently playing point blank and time crisis, both of which I owned with the force feed kick back gun btw
My point wasn't to bash the ps1, but rather highlight the fact that gameloft games are pretty dam awesome that makes the ps1 titles take a back seat
Logseman said:
Sadly it is the case.. It's too great a task to emulate a system with 1/4 the hardware of the host. Sony could do it, I fathom, because they can reprogram all they like as the original kit is theirs, but it is not in their plans as it would cost them dear.
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While this is true for emulation, it isn't necessarily for ports. The PS2 uses a RISC-Processor and with a bit luck, it's features are still (partly) present in our ARM-Processor, which is basically a RISC with more features (altho possibly completely different ones). This holds also true with PSP games, which are probably even easier to port, as the PSP has a much less complex processor than the PS2 and just more power.
So, basically, we COULD see PS2/PSP ports on the Play - it's just a question if Sony can be arsed to produce them. Then again, they're apparently currently hard at work porting PSP games to the PS3 as "HD Remakes" - so who knows, maybe they'll port them with the Playstation suite already and as such, they'll work on our Play/Tegra 2 Android Devices/NGP.
My first real conscious gaming was on the Sega MegaDrive/Genesis (I was 5 yo when I beat Sonic The Hedgehog ). But there is no denying that the PSOne, as the first successful 3D-console, allowed for the first time to explore concepts then-revolutionary which are now, almost 20 years later, dead horses. Your point is valid, the PSOne had very successful sagas coming from very old ideas, such as Worms...
The problem is not only that these Gameloft, Glu and other big name companies' games are not innovative, which can be of course excused because you can make good unoriginal games anytime, but that their innovations tend to focus on three aspects: quick gaming and gratification (achievements), social gaming (aka more MMORPGS and social-cooperative games like Farmville and the whole lot) and the ways to monetize said gaming (in-game adverts, DLC).
Of course, these characteristics make sense in a smartphone, a multi-tasking device which you won't usually use for the same purpose for hours, and particularly not gaming because it is uncomfortable; aside of that, it's a device you use to communicate with other people, so it makes sense that the "social" angle of gaming (sharing achievements, shed light to MMORPGs and SCGs) is exploited: and of course, given that they're simple games that people don't like to be charged large sums for, it's normal that you want to explore advertising as a revenue source.
However, I would say that heavy gamers (the people who buy this phone) crave for something deeper, games with complex stories, puzzles and strategic thinking: RPG's, strategic games à la Fire Emblem, graphical adventures... None of that is present in our devices: Zenonia is a fairly good game for a Zelda-like, but the English translation is absolutely horrible, which deprives a lot from the story's epos. Spectral Souls costs $15, no thanks. Sacred Oddysey requires DLC...
It's just too big a clash: when I was young enough to be scammed into buying game magazines, games like Angry Birds would have been massacred in magazines and panned in sales, and now they're all-present and hailed as some sort of vanguard. I am terrified that some day Superman 64 will come back to life with slightly improved graphics, revamped with some of its multiplayer karting and become a smashing success.
Logseman said:
My first real conscious gaming was on the Sega MegaDrive/Genesis (I was 5 yo when I beat Sonic The Hedgehog ). But there is no denying that the PSOne, as the first successful 3D-console, allowed for the first time to explore concepts then-revolutionary which are now, almost 20 years later, dead horses. Your point is valid, the PSOne had very successful sagas coming from very old ideas, such as Worms...
The problem is not only that these Gameloft, Glu and other big name companies' games are not innovative, which can be of course excused because you can make good unoriginal games anytime, but that their innovations tend to focus on three aspects: quick gaming and gratification (achievements), social gaming (aka more MMORPGS and social-cooperative games like Farmville and the whole lot) and the ways to monetize said gaming (in-game adverts, DLC).
Of course, these characteristics make sense in a smartphone, a multi-tasking device which you won't usually use for the same purpose for hours, and particularly not gaming because it is uncomfortable; aside of that, it's a device you use to communicate with other people, so it makes sense that the "social" angle of gaming (sharing achievements, shed light to MMORPGs and SCGs) is exploited: and of course, given that they're simple games that people don't like to be charged large sums for, it's normal that you want to explore advertising as a revenue source.
However, I would say that heavy gamers (the people who buy this phone) crave for something deeper, games with complex stories, puzzles and strategic thinking: RPG's, strategic games à la Fire Emblem, graphical adventures... None of that is present in our devices: Zenonia is a fairly good game for a Zelda-like, but the English translation is absolutely horrible, which deprives a lot from the story's epos. Spectral Souls costs $15, no thanks. Sacred Oddysey requires DLC...
It's just too big a clash: when I was young enough to be scammed into buying game magazines, games like Angry Birds would have been massacred in magazines and panned in sales, and now they're all-present and hailed as some sort of vanguard. I am terrified that some day Superman 64 will come back to life with slightly improved graphics, revamped with some of its multiplayer karting and become a smashing success.
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I think you have overlooked some gameloft games to be fair.
Most of them have the depth that you talk about.
Could you give me some examples? Maybe I'm missing out on something.
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Could you give me some examples? Maybe I'm missing out on something.
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Sure.
Here's a list of games i think that are either superior or just as good as any PS1 game in the same genre (mostly i think they are superior btw) -
Nova 2
Asphalt 6
Need for Speed Shift
BackBreaker 2
Dungeon Defenders Second Wave
Assasins Creed
Bruce Lee
Sacred Odyssey
Star Battalion
Guns n Glory
BackStab
Cordy
Hockey Nations 2011
Aporkalypse
Age of Zombies
Modern Combat 2
Guerrilla Bob
Toki Toki
Reckless Racing
Real Football 11
Spiderman
Air Attack HD
Brother in Arms 2
Avatar
Lets Golf 2
That's quite a few excellent games for a machine thats only just been released.
Don't forget that the Sega Saturn only got released with 4 games.
Playstation 1 only launched with 8 titles - http://thiskidplaysgames.com/home/playstation-one/256-playstation-one-launch-titles
I think the lineup of the Xperia Play games are better than the PS1 launch titles.
What you have to remember is that todays systems suffer from fragmentation. You do not get massive marketing deals with everybody playing the same thing. When everybody plays the same games it creates more of a buzz and can make the experience better.
Yea, todays gaming can be more lonely, sometimes you can feel like you are the only one playing a particular game. But you have to overlook this and go by the quality of the actual game.
Xperia Play has already some excellent games. Is it going majorly mainstream? No, ofc not. But still, the game quality of already released titles is excellent.
I am afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. Casual-oriented games and sports titles with PS2-worthy graphics are not what I'd call compelling. Have you tried Real Football? They move like dolls. PES 2006 and 2007 in the PSP were actually good... sigh.
Let's see what the E3 brings, but I'm afraid that so far I'm unconvinced.
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I am afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. Casual-oriented games and sports titles with PS2-worthy graphics are not what I'd call compelling. Have you tried Real Football? They move like dolls. PES 2006 and 2007 in the PSP were actually good... sigh.
Let's see what the E3 brings, but I'm afraid that so far I'm unconvinced.
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Ok fair comment.
I just fail to see how you can call most of the games in my list casual.
Most of them are in depth, have excellent storys and take ages to complete........
dsswoosh said:
Ok fair comment.
I just fail to see how you can call most of the games in my list casual.
Most of them are in depth, have excellent storys and take ages to complete........
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almost all gameloft games are rehashed versions of console games with decent graphics but awful gameplay.
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Ok fair comment.
I just fail to see how you can call most of the games in my list casual.
Most of them are in depth, have excellent storys and take ages to complete........
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Suuure, Asphalt, Star Batallion, Bruce Lee... incredibly long, with captivating stories. They can dethrone Chrono Trigger or Tales of Symphonia any day
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Suuure, Asphalt, Star Batallion, Bruce Lee... incredibly long, with captivating stories. They can dethrone Chrono Trigger or Tales of Symphonia any day
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Yea I totally forgot to compare beat em ups like bruce lee with rpgs.
hur dur :/
stupid comparison is stupid.
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Yea I totally forgot to compare beat em ups like bruce lee with rpgs.
hur dur :/
stupid comparison is stupid.
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bruce lee is a moist pile of **** compared to any street fighter playable on fpse.
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bruce lee is a moist pile of **** compared to any street fighter playable on fpse.
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Street Fighter wasn't original to the ps1 though was it. And that was a main point about our debates.
Tekken was the closest "original" beat em up on the ps1 imo and that was even an arcade port.
Bruce Lee is better than Tekken imo too although I am not a fan of any 3d 1v1 fighting game if I am going to be honest. I think they all suck.
Can't beat street fighter 2 turbo edition for 1v1 fighters

What's the best RPG?

Hi everyone. Just want a bit of help really. I want a good Final Fantasy type RPG to sink my teeth into, and was wondering which you all think is the best. Every time I look on the Market I just keep getting MMO's, lol. It can be either 2D or 3D.
hey, i visit these forums everyday but i just forgot i had an account xD by the way, i know some titles.
Symphony of Eternity (JRPG)
Eve of the Genesis (JRPG)
Zenonia 1,2,3 (Action-JRPG much like 2d zeldas)
Eternal Legacy (JRPG, its the gameloft version of FF13, i think its quite boring)
these are also endless possibilities with emulators. even if you don't have an xplay, JRPGs are playable on touchscreen
i'd also like to expand the topic a little bit. I'm searching for western rpgs, as close as elder scrolls as possible. On android, there are some open world games like GTA3 or GOF2, but they are not rpgs, also there's no fantasy medieval setting. Earth and legend is kinda sucky and boring. Dungeon hunter 2 is a bad diablo/torchlight clone.
Then, there are emulators. On the psx theres diablo which is awesome and addictive, but its far from being a WRPG. There is also a jap-only version of ultima underworld but its, ya know... jap-only. On the snes there is ultima 6, might and magic 3, and eye of the beholder. The former has a strange system (can't really figure out what to do), the latter two are candidates even if they have parties and the action window is small. Haven't tried them yet. Exact same for Mazes of fate on the GBA. On the n64 there's gauntlet legends which is like diablo if i'm not mistaken. Then there's of course zelda OOT, MM and a bunch of horrible games like quest 64. The zelda titles are of course awesome but they're not what i'm looking for.
Someone has managed to get daggerfall running on andosbox. I tried and it went slow and laggy as in his video. However he pm'd me saying it can be made to run at full speed.
In the end, i'd really like suggestions, on android games and emulators alike. I hope i haven't gone off topic, just wanted to help bluescorpion and to not get clumsy with a redundant topic.
rubbergnome said:
hey, i visit these forums everyday but i just forgot i had an account xD by the way, i know some titles.
Symphony of Eternity (JRPG)
Eve of the Genesis (JRPG)
Zenonia 1,2,3 (Action-JRPG much like 2d zeldas)
Eternal Legacy (JRPG, its the gameloft version of FF13, i think its quite boring)
these are also endless possibilities with emulators. even if you don't have an xplay, JRPGs are playable on touchscreen
i'd also like to expand the topic a little bit. I'm searching for western rpgs, as close as elder scrolls as possible. On android, there are some open world games like GTA3 or GOF2, but they are not rpgs, also there's no fantasy medieval setting. Earth and legend is kinda sucky and boring. Dungeon hunter 2 is a bad diablo/torchlight clone.
Then, there are emulators. On the psx theres diablo which is awesome and addictive, but its far from being a WRPG. There is also a jap-only version of ultima underworld but its, ya know... jap-only. On the snes there is ultima 6, might and magic 3, and eye of the beholder. The former has a strange system (can't really figure out what to do), the latter two are candidates even if they have parties and the action window is small. Haven't tried them yet. Exact same for Mazes of fate on the GBA. On the n64 there's gauntlet legends which is like diablo if i'm not mistaken. Then there's of course zelda OOT, MM and a bunch of horrible games like quest 64. The zelda titles are of course awesome but they're not what i'm looking for.
Someone has managed to get daggerfall running on andosbox. I tried and it went slow and laggy as in his video. However he pm'd me saying it can be made to run at full speed.
In the end, i'd really like suggestions, on android games and emulators alike. I hope i haven't gone off topic, just wanted to help bluescorpion and to not get clumsy with a redundant topic.
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Thanks for the help man, I'll try them out. And I totally forgot about my emulators, lol. I'm gonna DL FFV and Secret of Mana.
I wish you could get the original Fallout on Android.
I've had a hell of a fun time playing Eve of Genesis. There are so many hidden items to obtain, extra bosses after the "final" boss and a lot of customization with the characters and skills.
Zenonia 3 was also a lot of fun. Very hack and slash but good for a playthrough. This game also has extra content after beating the game the first time. There is a "Hard" mode and a "Hell" mode as well.
SNES RPGs are plentiful. Don't think I need to go into the mainstream ones but if you haven't played Treasure Hunter G, find a translated ROM immediately and play it. Only released in Japan but it's an amazing game.
No problem man fallout is completely mouse driven, right? dunno if that could work for me. I also thought about GemRB for baldur's gate ecc., is it worth it? does it work on the gamepad? I think many of those games need mouse anyway.
as for JRPGs, if you take emulators into account there's a whole lot even of non-mainstream ones. On the SNES try Star Ocean, Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia, on the PSX try Persona, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve (the first one), Chrono Cross and Wild Arms. Of course if you don't know them already.
Huh, onlive has the witcher. Can it be played on the xplay? I can't try as i'm not in uk/us. Maybe there's a way around that
You can always emulate classic PsOne RPGs like FF7 8 9 on FPSE if you're feeling
android RPGs are bad..
On my case I'm still playing Spectral Souls and its a good one for me.. Id also want to try out Generation of Chaos but buying a second pricey RPG game is too much for me right now. But hyperdevbox games speaks for itself, their games are good compared to other games which looks like it was made from RPGmaker.
Ive tried Eternal Legacy since it has nice graphics but I quit playing after a few hours since I find less action and effort of Gameloft here to actually even clone Final Fantasy. I hate that you can only select commands for the main character and just select a command profile for the other party members.. *sigh*
that's my main thoughts on the turn-based RPGs.
If Im going to play a slash-and-destroy-your-way RPG I'd definitely pick Dungeon Hunter over cartoony Zenonia series but both are good games you should get.
But right now, aside from hyperdevbox RPGs, I'd say PSOne RPGS are still best.
rpg games
there are many great rpg games on psx
Try legend of the dragoon ps1
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I recommend Castle of Shadows.. looks pretty good, kinda interesting story and it's fun
But.. I'm not sure if it's the sort of game you are looking for.
For me, there's not a single mobile game that has the character or charm of even the worst console/PC game.
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For me, there's not a single mobile game that has the character or charm of even the worst console/PC game.
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Truthfully, I would have to agree with you on that. I'm not feeling the love for many of the mobile games. Maybe I'm just old, I dunno. Although I do like plenty of newer PC RPGs. **cough Skyrim** But that is a different animal all together. The Zenonia series deserves a good score though, it's a good action RPG. Also, Pocket Legends seems good enough to be a totally free MMO. Neither of those are really like Final Fantasy though. Run all the PSOne Final Fantasy games though PSXPeria and/or FPSE and you'll be in heaven. I'm playing through Final Fantasy Tactics right now. I'm also after the dozens of PSOne RPGs that I never got too, such as Xenogears, Grandia and Chrono Cross. Google something like Top PSX RPGs and you'll find tons of top 10 type lists with lots of RPGs.
Use GameBoid to emulate Golden Sun and its sequel.
Final fantasy tactics, front mission 3,
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For me, there's not a single mobile game that has the character or charm of even the worst console/PC game.
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You won't find a single mobile phone game at sixty dollars either. I'm afraid good story telling, scripting and so on has its price and it will never get cheaper, it's not like graphical power which has catch-up economies and gets cheaper to use with time.
I agree with logs, your comparing 2 diffrent genres, mobile games are cheap to make and cheap to buy, console games have massive budgets and hundreds maybe thousands of people involved in the development, where as mobile games would be lucky to have a team of 10 programmers.
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If you're looking for something that's actually console-quality, go for Spectral Souls and Generation of Chaos.
Kind of unfair listing those since they are actually full-on console ports, but hey... they're in unplayable condition on PSP, so Android's pretty much their only real releases. I'll let you know right now that, if you can leap over that psychological "Holy ****, that's $15 for a goddamn phone game!" barrier, you'll have found the games that don't 'feel' like mobile phone RPGs.
Honestly, I don't mind the mobile phone RPGs either. Symphony of the Eternity, Alphadia and Eve of the Genesis have brought me something I've been wanting for a while... some Final Fantasy-like games from their 2D prime that have a new, fresh feel.
yeah, i forgot about Spectral Souls, but i've never been into strategy RPGs, i thought he didn't want that stuff.
Hey TLR, i sent you a pm on youtube about open world WRPGs, could you give it a look when you have time? It can also add a bit to the discussion here
Logseman said:
You won't find a single mobile phone game at sixty dollars either. I'm afraid good story telling, scripting and so on has its price and it will never get cheaper, it's not like graphical power which has catch-up economies and gets cheaper to use with time.
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You have a fair point there. And that's why I bought a PLAY tbh, because I wanted to play games that was £40 once. But we're just waiting for more ATM, lol Hurry up with PlayStation Suite Sony.
I'm using AnDosBox and playing Betrayal at Krondor
uh, how does it run? how about daggerfall? aaaaand... can you map buttons?

best w7 game?

whats the best game for w7 now?
my
king of the sea, Breeze, Flowerz, Sudoku, 3D Mahjong Free, Backgammon Pro,
BBB: App-ocalypse, Brain Cube, Buzz, Call of Carlos, ChalkMaster, Ctazy Ivan, Drag Race, Fish Fortress, Hard Blade, Monster Stack, Monster Stack 2, NosePicker, Paper Dash, Poker KinG Online, Save The Roundy, Solitaire, Solvr, Storm Flight, Taptitude, Woolensheep Free, Yaht 3D, Zombie Madness.
This is my games
No Zynga games yet? Do they have any particular comment on why they haven't released any of their games for Windows Phone? Annoying.
I'm personally seriously loving Armed!.
As to zynga who knows - what games do they actually make? The only one I know is farmville and other 'ville games.
shardnet said:
I'm personally seriously loving Armed!.
As to zynga who knows - what games do they actually make? The only one I know is farmville and other 'ville games.
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They also make Words With Friends, Hangin' With Friends and they now own Draw Something. Super popular games on iPhone and Android.
My favorite game once I first got on Windows Phone has been GeoDefense. Definitely worth checking out.
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They also make Words With Friends, Hangin' With Friends and they now own Draw Something. Super popular games on iPhone and Android.
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Must be outside my social circle\language then. Since I'll admit that I've never heard of them before outside of the net. Didn't consider interesting because of that and had no clue they were from zybga.
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Must be outside my social circle\language then. Since I'll admit that I've never heard of them before outside of the net. Didn't consider interesting because of that and had no clue they were from zybga.
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Same here.... My wife has a iPhoney and 2 of my family members have Android devices (I am their techs but, have not gotten them to move over yet) but, I have never heard of any of these apps.
DavidinCT said:
Same here.... My wife has a iPhoney and 2 of my family members have Android devices (I am their techs but, have not gotten them to move over yet) but, I have never heard of any of these apps.
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They are social games that you play with other people which is why I've found all my other friends have gotten addicted. Also, probably another reason why Zynga stock has been going up like crazy (in addition to their Farmville type games).
uptempo777 said:
My favorite game once I first got on Windows Phone has been GeoDefense. Definitely worth checking out.
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+1...over addictive game, i can't wait for its sequel!!!
i also have nice times with Farm Frenzy 2, Star Wars Battle for Hoth, Plants vs Zombies, Tiki Towers (xbla part)
on the other side, Evac, BBB app-ocalypse, Lushington Springs, Virus Invasion, Armed! are great games too...
and there's so much more to give a try to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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+1...over addictive game, i can't wait for its sequel!!!
i also have nice times with Farm Frenzy 2, Star Wars Battle for Hoth, Plants vs Zombies, Tiki Towers (xbla part)
on the other side, Evac, BBB app-ocalypse, Lushington Springs, Virus Invasion, Armed! are great games too...
and there's so much more to give a try to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They are coming out with a sequel to GeoDefense? Now I'm excited too!
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They are coming out with a sequel to GeoDefense? Now I'm excited too!
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GeoDefense SWARM is in the XBoxLive roundup. Can't wait for it to come out.
I'm loving DODONPACHI MAXIMUM
Wordament
Orbital
Bullet Asylum
Astro Flare
Chromatic
Logic Games
Dragon's Blade
anseio said:
GeoDefense SWARM is in the XBoxLive roundup. Can't wait for it to come out.
I'm loving DODONPACHI MAXIMUM
Wordament
Orbital
Bullet Asylum
Astro Flare
Chromatic
Logic Games
Dragon's Blade
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I'm actually having massive issues with both dodo and bullet asylum. The apps themselves work great, but fill the screen with so many effects it makes it actually impossible for me to see and control what's going on, in connection with fingers leads to a deadly scenario.
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I'm actually having massive issues with both dodo and bullet asylum. The apps themselves work great, but fill the screen with so many effects it makes it actually impossible for me to see and control what's going on, in connection with fingers leads to a deadly scenario.
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Yeah I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of Bullet Asylum and Donpachi becaue they flood the screen with so much effects that it's overkill. As much as I love impressive graphics and effects, I can't even see my character(s) because they are being overshadowed by explosions and other effects.
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I'm actually having massive issues with both dodo and bullet asylum. The apps themselves work great, but fill the screen with so many effects it makes it actually impossible for me to see and control what's going on, in connection with fingers leads to a deadly scenario.
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Yeah I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of Bullet Asylum and Donpachi becaue they flood the screen with so much effects that it's overkill. As much as I love impressive graphics and effects, I can't even see my character(s) because they are being overshadowed by explosions and other effects.
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That's kinda the function of those games though. What's nice about DODO is that you can control the ship from the negative space at the bottom of the screen. That way, you don't have your finger in the middle of things. I also tend to use the thumbsticks for Bullet Asylum so my view isn't obstructed.
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That's kinda the function of those games though. What's nice about DODO is that you can control the ship from the negative space at the bottom of the screen. That way, you don't have your finger in the middle of things. I also tend to use the thumbsticks for Bullet Asylum so my view isn't obstructed.
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Got a link to a reseller of the thumbsticks? I couldn't find anything that supports wp7. Or that at least mentions it.
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Got a link to a reseller of the thumbsticks? I couldn't find anything that supports wp7. Or that at least mentions it.
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Sorry, I was referring to the thumbstick control option within the game itself. You can choose between touch/drag or thumb controls.
My top 5 are:
1. Tentacles
2. The Harvest
3. Plants vs. Zombies
4. King of the Sea
5. Words By Post
Also, vNESLight is a very good NES emulator and that opens you up to lots of classics.
I think that depends on each one of you. For me the best games are Poker King Online, Bug Village, Full House Poker, Fragger ( a lot better than angry birds, which I own and like ), Breeze and sudoku like someone already mentioned, Minesweeper (which I never pass a level but still its fun xD) and chickens can't fly. If there is a cool multiplayer game feel free to post it's name
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