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Hi everyone, I'm not sure if this is the best forum to post this, but here goes.
I use Windows media Player on my WM6 phone, well Duttys 6.1 actually, but i don't think that will change anything.
I know its not generally the preferred player, but I like it. Anyway, my question, is there a way to tell it to ONLY scan a specific folder to add media to the library, or does it have to always scan then entire memory card.
The thing is, I use my TyTN II as my portable MP3 player, so I have alot of music stored on my memory card, but I also have newsbreak download all my pod casts to my memory card too, and media player adds these podcasts to the library too.
So is there a way I can tell it to just scan my Music folder so these other audio files don't get mixed in with my music library.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
ps. if your solution is 'use a different player' please don't bother.
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Has nobody any idea's.
Even a 'No, give it up' would be better than nothing.
I will like to know too also a way to keep my radio streams easy to play
Bump, this is actually a good one. It's such a hassle when you add one or two songs or videos and then have to tell WMP to update and watch it re-read and re-add 500 files. I have a 4GB micro and that can take awhile!
Please, somebody, anybody.....
Make playlists that is what I do. I have oodles of audio books on my memory card and to avoid them get scrambled in when I shuffle I just load a playlist.
As for the using a 2nd media player I do that also when I don't want to load navigate to find the playlist and change settings from shuffle to consecutive playback. I just use HTC Home with HTC Audio manager for in a hurry playback of music. Hope this helps.
Edit: Just wanted to add I decided to play with WMP a little more after posting and fund that If you use the ID3v1/ID3v2 tags and sort that way it is really useful too. But to simplify a solution again I recommend a playlist. You can create and edit you playlists right on the phone. If your tags are accurate you can make a proper playlist in no time.
Playlists are the things I really wanted to avoid, I add and remove songs and albums pretty much everyday and having to recreate the playlist everytime seems silly.
Thanks for the contribution though.
Hi everyone,
As you know WMP has an "Auto playlist" option that lets you create playlists on a set of rules. However, when it syncs it to the WMP mobile, they turn to regular playlists.
E.g if I have a playlist that is "Not played in last 5 days" and I play some songs from it on the WMP Mobile, all the songs will still be there. Is there a way for truly dynamic playlist on WMP Mobile? If not, what other player you know that supports this feature?
Thanks!
I'd love this feature as a way to create a playlist that stays filled with the latest podcasts downloaded from RSS Hub -- and ideally that deletes the ones I've listened to. Any suggestions?
Yeah I've been really disappointed with the media player features as well as the alternative media players in winmo. I hate having to carry my earbuds as well as a jabra bluetooth dongle, so I've switched back to carrying both an ipod and my phone. I'd pay $100 for a decent player with similar features to my ipod touch or my wife's zune.
Conduits Pocket Player. All you'll ever need, including dynamic playlists.
Robrecht said:
Conduits Pocket Player. All you'll ever need, including dynamic playlists.
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I'll try that out; looks like it has a 30-day trial. I've been playing with Mortplayer, and it does at least some of what I'm looking for, for free.
Pocket Player's finger-friendly library is great: it has smooth flick scrolling, handles large libraries (2000+ tracks) effortlessly and is very customizable. Hope you like it too.
Try out Kinoma's Player. Not sure if this one does what you're trying to do, but there is a free version and so far in my use of it, is ridiculously cool. Also supports Orb.com and other streaming content providers, has RSS podcasts that will stream in (not sure if there's a way to download them to the device, again, haven't been using it very long).
http://kinoma.com/freeplay/download/
I've been playing with the Conduits Pocket Player trial and the Kimona FreePlay, which is a crippled version of the full Kimona Player. It's hard to compare them, because Pocket Player is a 30-day trial of the full version, whereas all of the relevant features are turned off in Kimona's free version.
Pocket Player does everything I need. It's great.
Kimona FreePlay's interface, though, is fantastic. If the full version does everything Pocket Player does -- dynamic smart playlists, especially -- it would probably be better than Pocket Player.
(I listen to podcasts on my 30-minute drive to work. Pocket Player has a smart playlist called "recently added", which stays full of various podcasts I subscribe to through RSS Hub -- which is great for one-tap skipping ahead and so forth while I'm driving).
A year has passed.
Has anyone come up with something less clunky for Windows Mobile smart playlists of podcasts (automatically or on demand download new episodes, add to playlist and delete old episodes) than using having to deal with using 2 different apps?
Seems like a really common request that's being ignored for Windows Mobile while good apps are made for Andorid, Blackberry and iPhone.
Even Stitcher.com has elected to make apps for every major smartphone OS except Windows Mobile.
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.
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Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?
When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?
WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.
Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows of a program that not only syncs with itunes but can also convert the music to a lower bitrate, like the option in itunes...using mediamonkey now, but would reallyyy love to be able to sync with itunes
my question is why are you using itunes?
I started using it when I bought an iphone..I like the option to only sync checked songs, smart playlists, uncluttered ui, etc. windows media player never seems to sync album art, and mediamonkey has an ugly ui. Anyway, happen to know the answer to my question?
program that syncs with itunes?
um, thre are programs that will do mass bitrate conversions but idk about that sync q.
It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
mwxiao said:
It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
I feel your pain; I've had trouble finding a music player I really liked too. As of now, I'm just using the stock Samsung Music Player.
...which actually isn't that bad. It works well enough and the 5.1 feature is awesome.
check doubletwist. very good GUI and has itunes compatibility but I have not used that personally
DoubleTwist is a good music player and can export your playlists from itunes. They syncing is a bit slow tho.
I really had a hard time with doubletwist, and it took forever to start up on the pc.
I would recommend 'Songbird' on the desktop. It's built on top of a Mozilla Firefox framework, has great plug-ins and extensions, and via MTP can sync playlists with M3Us to the captivate, and then mixzing as the player on the captivate.
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Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
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Thanks a lot. The Android music player is much better than the Samsung one. Though I have a few bugs for just 10 min of try. Well, it's actually not a big of a deal. Playlist works fine, album art works fine. And that's all I am asking for.
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I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
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+1 on this app, you can use the stock samsung player, and double twist recongizes the playlists as well. it was much easier and faster on my computer as well. syching around 6 gigs of music only took around 15 mintues as opposed to over 2 hours with double twist.
ANOTHER good and easy to use apps is called "itunes agent". All you have to do is plug in the phone as USB drive and use it to sync you songs. Check it out. I use it for my WinMo phone and it is probably one of the best tool for sync songs to my phne.
mwxiao said:
Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
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I had all my music in iTunes (many files were AAC - ripped that way before i knew better) and I learned the hardway that iTunes some funky things. I actually used MP3tag to fix the tags - lots of Android phones don't like the tags if some fields are empty - this has the effect of showing uknown artist and maybe empty album art. iTunes added some funky stuff to some of the tags, so once i got it all cleaned up and made sure the album artwork was embedded in the tags all was good.
As for playlists - you could try Samsung Kies - it does sync with the phone and allows you to make playlists. I have not tried it for syncing yet.