Verizon Htc TP2 Unlocking to GSM? - General Questions and Answers

I tried doing a search for this thread and couldn't find anything, so if it has been talked about already my mistake.
So, my question is, Can a Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 be unlocked to U.S. GSM Carriers?
It is a global phone and has a GSM radio and a Sim card slot. The thing I don't know is if the GSM radio is the proper frequency, if it isn't can that be changed? And if it is possible, how do I it do it?
And finally, does it need to be Sim unlocked or will I just have to switch the radio from CDMA to GSM?
Thanks much, Any help is much Appreciated.

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HTC Touch Pro Locked?

Hi,
I'm planning to buy a HTC Touch Pro off Ebay but they say Sprint. I'm in Australia, if I flash the rom will it be able to work still?
Thanks.
theoneonly said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy a HTC Touch Pro off Ebay but they say Sprint. I'm in Australia, if I flash the rom will it be able to work still?
Thanks.
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does your current phone provider use CDMA or GSM
the phone you are looking at is CDMA... if your phone provider is GSM, then NO... if your phone provider is CDMA, do they allow activating ESNs from foreign phones?
My provider is GSM.
If I flash the phone to a new rom, will it work then?
Thanks.
no... the phone is CDMA, but you are using GSM
AFAIK, there is no way of changing a CDMA phone into a GSM phone (someone correct me if i'm wrong)
You are correct to say that there is no way to convert between CDMA and GSM. The underlying technologies are different on a hardware level.

TP2, Not using CDMA any more, flash to GSM

I don't know if it is ok or not for what I want to do. I currently have a Sprint Touch Pro 2, but I have no plan to use the CDMA network, so is there a GSM ROM I can flash to? Thanks.
Never flash a GSM specific anything to your CDMA device. To gain GSM access you'll need to HSPL unlock, SIM unlock then flash a new radio. Search or check the Rhodium CDMA stickies for more info and step by step instructions.
lan_baba said:
I don't know if it is ok or not for what I want to do. I currently have a Sprint Touch Pro 2, but I have no plan to use the CDMA network, so is there a GSM ROM I can flash to? Thanks.
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I have a Sprint TP2 (i live in London). I bought it just for the 3.5mm jack. The sprint CDMA phones (as far as I'm aware) are already GSM unlocked to make it easier for their customers to ROAM. Mine definitly was, I just inserted my Vodafone Sim Card and switched it GSM (All Settings/Phone) and hey presto it's all good.
But definitley do NOT flash a GSM ROM to this phone it may brick it. There are plenty of good CDMA ROMS about here and on PPCGeeks (which leans a little more to CDMA).
Cheers.
this is like the 4th thread about this from the op, hopefully it has sunk in that this can't be done.

what to do?

I have an unlocked tp and i talked with verizon trying to set it up to use it on there network and they say i cant use it with them even tho i have the good esn number and all? what should i do have you guys heard of this or was that guys just being stupid?
I think im going to resell it or trade it for a verizon version. if any one wants to trade for a sprint version thats unlocked and comes with many extras in the orignal bo x with a 1 gig card and the mighty rom with android I will sell or trade it for 160 its in great condition Davey
there are two types of wireless networks in the world: GSM and CDMA. your phone is GSM in hardware = can't be changed), and verizon's network is CDMA = not comaptible.
correct me if im wrong but the sprint is the cdma and the att is the gsm. this phone has mightys cdma rom on it. it would have bricked the phone if it was gsm right at least that is what all the info i have read has told me. I have even flashed it to the stock verizon rom which is cdma and it was fine. I have found a few pages in the wiki about how to use it on the verizon network i will try they look kinda complicated tho.
DadamsJR said:
correct me if im wrong but the sprint is the cdma and the att is the gsm. this phone has mightys cdma rom on it. it would have bricked the phone if it was gsm right at least that is what all the info i have read has told me. I have even flashed it to the stock verizon rom which is cdma and it was fine. I have found a few pages in the wiki about how to use it on the verizon network i will try they look kinda complicated tho.
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sprint & verizon are cdma, t-mobile & at&t are gsm.
i haven't tried flashing a cdma rom on my fuze... i know it is highly unrecommended. but i am sure there is a way to tell if ur phone is gsm or cdma, probably by looking at the sticker under that battery.
Dad is correct.. Sprint is CDMA jsut like VZW... and there is an easier way to tell if it is GSM or CDMA..... Take off the batter cover.... Do you see a Sim Card? If Yes, then it is a GSM... If No, Then CDMA unless it is GSM and no sim card is in it.. then power it up... it will say SIM CARD MISSING... That will tell you that it is GSM.....
Hope that helps.
I know its cdma for a fact it has sprint across the front and it has a cdma rom on it

What exactly is the point of SIM Unlocking?

I was just wondering what the point of doing this is? Like is it just so I could use like the Verizon CDMA network or what?
I have the Sprint Rhodium400 and its STOCK radio version is 2.32.00.WU, so I mean according to what I read this is unlocked.
anyway, I was just wondering what if any point doing the Security Unlock has for me?
the SIM unlock is to use it on US GSM networks such as ATT and TMobile, it doesnt allow it to work on other CDMA networks like Verizon
Oh ok, thanks for the heads up on that one.
Good looking out (I was wondering about that for the longest time)
Jamio88 said:
I was just wondering what the point of doing this is? Like is it just so I could use like the Verizon CDMA network or what?
I have the Sprint Rhodium400 and its STOCK radio version is 2.32.00.WU, so I mean according to what I read this is unlocked.
anyway, I was just wondering what if any point doing the Security Unlock has for me?
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If your radio says WU that means that you can use any GSM sim card (not CDMA) on any network w ur phone. Security unlock - HSPL will let you flash your phone with custom roms. You can find more info about HSPL by following thread by OLIPRO. Of course thank him for his work. Have fun flashing.
FYI... Do not flash your phone w CDMA roms.
mboguc said:
If your radio says WU that means that you can use any GSM sim card (not CDMA) on any network w ur phone. Security unlock - HSPL will let you flash your phone with custom roms. You can find more info about HSPL by following thread by OLIPRO. Of course thank him for his work. Have fun flashing.
FYI... Do not flash your phone w CDMA roms.
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This is not true. The stock radio in verizon roms has a wu but all sims are locked minus the stock vodaphone sim. The locked sim does not have to do with the radio on the verizon tp2.
drewcam888 said:
This is not true. The stock radio in verizon roms has a wu but all sims are locked minus the stock vodaphone sim. The locked sim does not have to do with the radio on the verizon tp2.
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first. he has sprint..
second. verizon doesnt have wu.. unless you flash it w one (stock is always wv)
i do give you credit cuz i did not know that wu may still be locked.
no hard feelings.
peace
The Sprint TP2 has no SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM is lacking support for the US bands. So while the Sprint TP2 will accept any SIM it will not get a SIGNAL in North America unless you pay for the security unlock and apply a patched radio.
The Verizon TP2 HAS a SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM has full support for the US bands. So if you just want to use a SIM card, then all you need to do is get an unlock code from Verizon.
Both version radios have support for Euro bands.
Default behaviour:
Sprint = Use any SIM you want, but only get a signal in Europe and Japan when in GSM mode.
Verizon = Can't use *any* SIM except Verizon until you unlock, but to unlock you can do it by requesting a free code from Verizon CS.
so u can use ur phone on a different network (phones with sim cards obviously)
SiL3nTKiLL said:
so u can use ur phone on a different network (phones with sim cards obviously)
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Yes. Once unlocked, you can switch the phone to GSM mode and use any GSM SIM card.
I do have Sprint (The Rhodium400).
It has been HSPL Unlocked for about 6 or 7 weeks now, just was curious about the Radio unlocking stuff (as I have never messed around with it).
I have already run the gauntlet of the various Custom ROMs out there. All (well most of) them seemed to be very VERY well built, however none seemed to suit me to quite 100%, so I have been working on my own for about 3 weeks now give or take.
It is a slow going process (mainly due to working so much), but it is very fun and a learning experience none the less. Looking forward to the day it is finished (So that I can start on the next one, lol).
gamescan said:
The Sprint TP2 has no SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM is lacking support for the US bands. So while the Sprint TP2 will accept any SIM it will not get a SIGNAL in North America unless you pay for the security unlock and apply a patched radio.
The Verizon TP2 HAS a SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM has full support for the US bands. So if you just want to use a SIM card, then all you need to do is get an unlock code from Verizon.
Both version radios have support for Euro bands.
Default behaviour:
Sprint = Use any SIM you want, but only get a signal in Europe and Japan when in GSM mode.
Verizon = Can't use *any* SIM except Verizon until you unlock, but to unlock you can do it by requesting a free code from Verizon CS.
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..also thought I read somewhere in CMONEX thread a recap saying if unlocking sprint radio/SIM you'd be able to use Verizon towers... (will look for post & put hyperlink here soon)
also, from ppc/cmonex sticky:
BIG NOTE: if you have the Sprint branded TP2, then after running this SIM/Sec Unlocker, you'll need to flash a patched sprint radio (in other thread) to finish the process.
... sprint is a Security (CID) unlocker, which needs unlocking first, then a "patched" (unlocked?) sprint radio also...
"Originally Posted by Syriel View Post
By default, the stock Sprint radio only has support for GSM 900/1800 (Euro bands) even though the hardware supports GSM 850/900/1800/1900. When you flash Oli's WU radio to the Sprint TP2 it re-enables support for GSM 850/1900 (NA bands).
The reason that Sprint disabled the (NA bands) is because the Sprint TP2 (unlike the VZW TP2) is SIM unlocked from the factory. The VZW TP2 ships with full band support, but it is SIM locked from the factory.
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Guess I'd just make it simple: Sprint needs a band enabler - 850/1900 (security unlocker?) & then a radio that works on it... (patched WU)
So I have Sprint service on my TP2.. if I unlocked it would I be able to receive a call from either network or do I have to manually select one and swap back and forth?
I can understand having a default outgoing radio (choosing CDMA or GSM).. but it'd be more useful to have the ability to take make use of both lines..
slappy76 said:
So I have Sprint service on my TP2.. if I unlocked it would I be able to receive a call from either network or do I have to manually select one and swap back and forth?
I can understand having a default outgoing radio (choosing CDMA or GSM).. but it'd be more useful to have the ability to take make use of both lines..
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you would have to switch back and forth
and of course have a SIM card from a GSM provider like ATT or T-Mobile

MOTO G CDMA and GSM

Hi all,
I have bought a BOOST mobile MOTO G and it is defaulted as a CDMA. It is not activated yet by any carrier, since I did not call them.
So far I followed the guide provided here and unlocked the bootloader, rooted, recovery and flashed Cynogenmod 11. My question is if I can make it useful on GSM (using a SIM card), even it is now on CDMA (I checked the network in the option "about the phone"). Is it possible to make a phone work in both CDMA and GSM, I mean it does not have to work at same time, but when I insert the right sim card it will work with GSM, and pulled out the sim card, it will work on CDMA. Is it possible to make a phone unlock, root and flash like that? If it is possible, could someone kindly point me a thread or give me advice one or two.
Greatly appreciated!
phonatics said:
Hi all,
I have bought a BOOST mobile MOTO G and it is defaulted as a CDMA. It is not activated yet by any carrier, since I did not call them.
So far I followed the guide provided here and unlocked the bootloader, rooted, recovery and flashed Cynogenmod 11. My question is if I can make it useful on GSM (using a SIM card), even it is now on CDMA (I checked the network in the option "about the phone"). Is it possible to make a phone work in both CDMA and GSM, I mean it does not have to work at same time, but when I insert the right sim card it will work with GSM, and pulled out the sim card, it will work on CDMA. Is it possible to make a phone unlock, root and flash like that? If it is possible, could someone kindly point me a thread or give me advice one or two.
Greatly appreciated!
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NO it will not work. CDMA Moto G versions DO NOT HAVE GSM radio hardware. It will NEVER work with GSM. It is a hardware issue not software.
now put down the pipe and walk away.
cpuspeed said:
NO it will not work. CDMA Moto G versions DO NOT HAVE GSM radio hardware. It will NEVER work with GSM. It is a hardware issue not software.
now put down the pipe and walk away.
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Thank you for clarifying, so I can rest with my CDMA carrier now, no more struggling.

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