It appears HTC made the HD2 recognize a carkit, in stead of a normal power supply due to a different pin config. Sadly my active Brodit HD2 holder doesn't have this specific pin config, so the HD2 doesn't recognize it as a carkit. This makes it impossible to automatically switch on the Bluetooth, and some other apps.
Would it be possible to change some dll file or similar, to let the HD2 think every power supply is a carkit?
Are you sure it's a different pin config?
I've read somewhere that is has todo with removing the backcover (the metal part) and two magnets will activate a switches which are behind the little squares next to the red reset button and one on the other site.
p.s. i installed the navpanel and took a bunch of magnets but no magic ....
Yes, it has to be a different pinconfig, as the converter-cable I use (mini-USB to micro-USB) gives the wanted carkit effect too. Sadly I cannot use that cable between my carkit and phone.
I assume the backcover for the navipanel also short-wires those two contacts inside the back of the telephone to invoke the same reaction?
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On http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors it is clearly explained that the MDAII connector has following audio-related pins:
1 CAR_MIC_IN
3 CAR_AUDIO_R
4 CAR_AUDIO_L
With the original T-Mobile MDAII carkit ALL audio (phone & pda) is said to go via these pins
With the XDA2 carkit only phone audio (after accepting a call) goes via these pins.
Maybe this has also something to do with the switching of the in-car signal on
19 CAR_ON
:idea: CAR_ON is connected to +6V on the car charger which makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialing.
>> This is the behaviour of the XDAII carkit!!!
When this pin is connected to ground, the internal mike and speaker are turned off, and audio input is taken from the audio input pin on the connector.
>>Is this the behaviour of the MDAII carkit??
:?: So: Would it be worth trying to connect pin 19 to ground instead of +6v inside the carkit cradle??
Can't believe no-one with a XDA2 / Expansys carkit is looking forward to solving these issues too . . .
I checked this a couple months ago when I dismantled my expansys car kit. I'm sure I found pin 19 is already grounded on the carkit. With regard to this part of the pin 19 description:
"...CAR_ON is connected to +6V on the car charger which makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialing. "
"Speaker mode" in this case means the handsfree mode, where the integral xda II speaker is turned up to "distortingly loud" and the internal mike is used in call, similar to what happens if you push and hold the green/send button during a call. If pin 19 is raised to +6V, this will be the xda II's default behaviour with the phone function. This is so you could plug in a simple car charger that puts pin 19 at +6V and that provides only power to the unit (no mike, speaker etc) and allows you to make/receive calls through the builtin speaker and mike without having to hold the xda to your ear.
I feel that if pin 19 is grounded, all audio should be sent through the bottom connector and then into the car kit. Indeed, this is the case with some ROMS / software versions, but not in others. I therefore think it is a software/ROM issue.
I found with my uk o2 xda II, with both the launch ROM and 1.60.50 ROM I got the same behaviour - the unit did not send pda audio to the bottom connector whether pin 19 was grounded, raised to 6V or left floating. Yet other HTC Himalaya owners have reported things differently with different ROMS.
Firstly I thought this to be a s/w issue as well.
But then: The T-Mobile MDAII carkit seems to be working as desired no matter the rom version . . .
Could we get together a list of device/rom/carkit combinations with the actual behaviour in sorting this out?
ANYONE: pLEASE POST YOUR CONFIG HERE.
MINE:
Config: MDAII / 1.60.00WWE and 1.60.36 ext / XDAII Carkit (Expansys like)
Bahaviour: Only phone audio via carkit when in a call
Configs
I am having an identical problem
Build: 13252 - 1.60.00WWE EXT. 1.60.50
I have an XDA I've been messing about with in the car to try to make myself an in-car kit and that was all going fine (Although the phone is now stuck in in-car mode, think i've blown something up ). For the kit I made there, +6v on pin 19 output all audio to the connector.
I then bought an XDA II and in-car kit, wired it all in and then tried to play audio through an in-car cassette adapter lugged into the headphone socket that's built in to my in-car kit. The phone outputs to the speakers fine, but the audio, (Mp3 and the like) won't go to the conncetor at the bottom. (Note that the in-car kit's jack socket is driven off the 22 pin connector at the base of the XDA II)
I'm dissapointed that it could be a softwaer problem, although surely someone somewhere must know a way to force the software into in-car mode constantly and playing the audio out?
Any solutions then let me know cos I'm really irritated that I've just spent £150 on the in-car kit only to find that it don't work yet!
Roll on the XDA-Developers Special Ed. ROM for the XDA II, I bet that'll fix the problem!
Keep me posted on any updates,
Will
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Just done some more reading on the forum and cam accross this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8346&highlight=car+automobile+mode+xda+ii
not sure how easy it will be to change the dll files over, anyone with some experience in doing this fancy having a go first and letting me know how it gets on? Is it possible to do? What do I have to do once I mess up the ROM on the pda by overwriting a dll file? Can I just hard reset?
Just letting people know that the Parrot CK3000 car kit works great with my XDA2. It only uses "headset" mode, so functionality is limited, but it routes the calls through the car speakers and mutes the stereo, so that's all you can really ask.
On my Alfa, I couldn't use the standard ISO connectors, as the car has a separate amplifier in the boot, but chopping the ISO connectors off and connecting the wires separately to the "telephone in" connectors on the back of the radio worked just fine. I can even adjust the volume of the phone call via the steering wheel audio controls!
There's a reassuring "beep" when I turn on the ignition to let youknow tha the devices have bonded and every few days, something goes skewey on the PDA and I have to do a soft-reset to make the bluetooth bond work again, but otherwise, it works fine.
I've put an icon on my PDA for the warm-reset, so that I can do it easily in the car if I realise that it hasn't bonded automatically.
The only real glitch I've found is that if you get to your destination whilst still on the phone, I can't find any way to transfer the call back to the handset without terminating the call - any help on that would be gratefully appreciated.
Good to hear it works, I have a CK3300 with the BT GPS Functionality on route for review.
In asnwer to your question, to hand over the BT headset call to the phone just tap the 'Headphone' Icon on the status bar of the XDA.
Darren,
Funnily enough, I was just outside in the car experimenting when you replied.
Sure enough, if you tap the headphone icon on the PDA, the call is successfully transferred back to the PDA and you can carry on the call directly on the PDA.
If you then press the green button on the car kit, the call will also transfer back to the car kit again.
But - Here's my last issue - If you get into the car with a call already in progress on the PDA and then turn on the car ignition, the car kit beeps to confirm that it has bonded, but I can't find any way to actually transfer the open call to the car kit....
Finally - I've come to the XDA forum for a break from Pocketgps.co.uk! I usually spend my evenings on your site. Tonight, for the first time in weeks, I thought that I'd go and seek other company. Who should be the first to reply to my post here but you!
You're going to tell me now that you also drive an Alfa and that you too frequent the alfaowner.com site as well aren't you!!!
Cheers Darren.
Ah well you see we obviously share a passion for gadgets but not Alfa's, current car is an X-Type shortly to be replaced by a Discovery and yes I spend time at both of their owners ites as well (Note to self, need to get out more!).
I think I'm correct in saying that you can't hand over an active call to a BT Handsfree be it headset or car-kit, I suspect this is a limitation of the XDA's BT Stack (thanks Microsoft NOT!)
I shall leave you in peace now, you've probably had enough of my ramblings back at home base ;')
Is this the same kit: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PAR_CK3000
There is also an upgrade http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=FLS-KIT but it doesn't say what you get for your £45.
Any ideas?
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But - Here's my last issue - If you get into the car with a call already in progress on the PDA and then turn on the car ignition, the car kit beeps to confirm that it has bonded, but I can't find any way to actually transfer the open call to the car kit....
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Hit the green button on the carkit, that should do it.
If not, install the XDA2 Bluetooth tool, and retry...
Nope - Green button is documented as being the way to do this for most phones, but it doesn't work with my XDA2....
I did try to install Bluetooth tools ut then couldn't get the devide to pair with the Parrott at all, so I hastily removed them.....
I'll think that I'll live with as it is, now that everything else is stable and works OK....
hello, i just got a htc himalaya unde rthe name tmobile ma2 and basically it came with a app called destinator (i bought a gps antenna) which fits in the back circular hole by the camera circle, but the program cannot find a gps antenna? what can be done? why isnt it finding it, is there some sort of a turn on trick or possibly some source code which can be added to make it work? it scans the com ports 1-9 but cannot fond the antenna? i use wm6.1 i tried 6 and 5 none work? it used to work thou.... (with a dif antenna) which dosent work now ether.
the connector on the back of the himalaya is not for
gps antenna it's for extre gsm antenna
the himalya dont have gps hardware at all
and can only be used with external gps's which
are bluetooth or connects to it's buttom connector
I've seen the question (and the answers) several times here; But not for freeware versions.
The request is quite simple: Automatically turn on the Bluetooth when HD2 is placed in active carholder, so it recieves power. And BT off again, after removing from power.
Several paid programs can do it with profiles. But I don't need all the profiles, just one nifty little app to do the BT-toggle-at-power-toggle-trick. Bluepower should do the trick, but that doesn't work on HD2 sadly.
I allready placed a shortcut at the todayscreen, but it can be done automatically, so it should be done automatically. (you get the idea? It CAN be done, so it HAS to be done... )
Anyhow: does anyone know of a freeware app that does the trick, turning on BT at power-connected, and off again at power-disconnected?
Thanks in advance!
looking for this too!
fantastic idea, i see no reason for bluetooth to be disabled when connected to a power supply.if anyone can do it xda can!
google this
kixass bluepower
It worked for me , while I still had the Touch Diamond and Touch HD
Haven't tried it on HD2, but, hopefully it will work
I allready found kixass bluepower, but another thread here on XDA says it doesn't work on HD2 due to different Bluetooth methods:
http://xda-developers.mobi/viewPost.php?id=599980&PHPSESSID=b4f4cf54198fe7e540312d95fbb088aa
@SMS92: it's the other way around: connect to power = BT on, disconnect = BT off. (Hence power comes from the active carholder, but the audio-signal is connected via BT)
I'm not sure if i understand you correctly but don't you mean ?
Settings > All settings > System > Car kit mode > "Auto connect when in car kit mode" ??
greetz,
Plaspop
No, for that the bluetooth allready has to be on (Or am I mistaken? EDIT: YES!!!! I'm mistaken!!)
I'd like the BT to be off all day, except when I'm in the car. For that's the only place where I use BT. After getting out of the car the BT should be switched off again.
In order to do this automatically the phone needs to know whether I'm in the car. The easiest trigger for that is the power-connection, as I place the phone in an active phone holder (Brodit). This action could then trigger BT to switch on automatically, and removing the phone from the holder (and therefore from the power) should switch BT off again.
(The BT is used to connect to the built-in carkit in the Mazda 6), Power to the phone is supplied via the active carholder, which ONLY gives power, no audio-connection.
EDIT!!! OOOOW WAIT!!!!! YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!
WOW!!!! So simple.....
(Settings > All settings > System > Car kit mode > "Auto connect when in car kit mode")
So no special app needed, no profiles, no reg-changes, just a mere setting.
I LOVE HTC! Soooo much clever things in this HD2!
Just tested: BT off, connect to carpower: BT switched on automatically. Remove from power: BT switches off again. So this works!!!
(I didn't have time to test actually connecting to the car in this modus, but normally it works, so I assume this last bit works too.
You're my hero! (ok, that's a bit exegerated, but you get the idea) THANKS!
EDIT: see post below for last status.... sh*t.....
Ehr...... Sh*t.... My Brodit holder doesn't connect the right pins to trigger the carmode, and therefore the BT doesn't automatically switch on.
My desktop loader uses a converter cable, and that one DOES trigger the carmode
So.... sorry, no solution yet....
Found this in another thread. Could this help you ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3367344
Thanks, but no, that doesnt work on the HD2.
Has something to do with changed Bluetooth system in the HTC models after the touch?
A similar request thread has been started here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667901&goto=newpost
Im following it too, and hope it will lead to development of a cab for this much wanted function.
I don't know how the carmode works, but issn't it possible to edit the registry to activate the carmode when the phone is on any kind of charger, instead of when some pin is connected? Then you would combine two functions witch are already on the phone.
Brodit activation of car kit mode
Has anyone succeeded in getting the Brodit car holder to automatically activate NaviPanel?? I see in other posts that if pin 4 of the micro USB is grounded it auto switches NaviPanel - has anyone else tried this yet?
Hi. I wanted a cheap solution for mounting my (soon to be replaced) HTC Touch Diamond in my car with the fewest cables possible (I need to mention here that I don't want to use a car mounter and a car charger...the whole idea is to just slip the phone in when you enter the car. I also found the beautiful solutions from brodit or carcomm or adapt but these are a lot more expensive).
So I found this desktop charger (photo downstairs) at 20$ on ebay that I intend to glue somewhere in my car. All good ...
BUT, I was wondering if it would be possible to use a third-party software (if such exists) or to modify some registry entries so that when I connect my phone to the charger, it would automatically modify the phone answering options and a phone call could be answered by pressing any hard key (like the up-down volume keys on the side) or at least switch to that existing option when the phone auto-answers after a set period of time (0-120 sec.). These should be disabled after the phone is disconnected!
Also, in order to use the above-mentioned features, after the phone is answered it should automatically switch to speaker mode.
So...what do you guys think...is this science-fiction ???
bump...
Handsfree
you can plug it into a car charger and then pair the phone with one of those new solar powered bluetooth handsfree kits that you attach to your sun visor. EBAY!
djfuego said:
you can plug it into a car charger and then pair the phone with one of those new solar powered bluetooth handsfree kits that you attach to your sun visor. EBAY!
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ya...I guess that this is the only option.
tks!