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I asked this in the regular forums and didn't get any helpful response, so I thought I would try here. I'm sure there is something you cookers can come up with.
I've searched for an answer on this and couldn't find any. My apologies if I didn't search for the correct thing.
I have an AT&T Fuze that is unlocked (using an EnergyROM) and I am using it on the BELL HSPA network. Everything works fine but the phone thinks it is roaming all the time. It's not, but the phone thinks it is.
This doesn't present much of a problem except with apps that don't allow or always prompt for permission to use data while roaming. I am using custom ROM's and right now the one thing I can't use and would like to is the Twitter tab in Sense 2.5. I can use it on WiFi but over cellular it gives a connection error.
Is there something I can change in my settings or the registry to make my phone realize the Bell HSPA network is the correct network and that it isn't roaming?
No Help from Bell...
Hi, I am in the exact same situation. I had to search around the settings on Bell WM phones to find the data APN = pda.bell.ca (try and get that info from anyone working for Bell)...
I have the same "roaming" issue but I only noticed it with the weather tab not using "My Location" in NRG's SenseUI rom.
I have been trying many different settings and am about to try replacing the manila registry with NFSFAN's Sense manila registry settings from my CDMA TP (BEST ROM I HAVE EVER USED BY THE WAY).
I just got this new phone because the HSPA network gives better reception than CDMA in some areas I am working right now.
Still roaming...
I have not had any success yet, but I am looking at how Bell phones differentiate between the multiple networks since they share with Telus.
I am considering trying to get a hold of a Samsung Omnia II from Bell, since it uses WM 6.5.
Bell and Telus use the same equipment, so I am looking to extract some info from the rilphone.dll or whatever it uses to determine if it is roaming or not.
In searching through the forums I have found a number of individuals with this unique problem.
Apparently Bell/Telus use a few different network home settings, and the one to use is not the first one on the list.
A quote from my findings so far - "Technically, 302610 and 302860 are Bell and Telus respectively, and they both use the 302880 network."
If anyone has the ability to extract this info on how the Bell Mobility phone does this, there are a growing number of us that would like a fix for this little issue when using phones from other networks on Bell or Telus.
Roaming on the Fuze, but with a Bell GT-I8000L to dissect
I have found an interesting CAB file on the Bell Omnia II that changes the data settings on my Fuze, but I have not got it to work yet. It is attached to this post.
Bell has chosen to make the data settings hidden from the user, and this file accomplished that much on my Fuze.
My hope is that maybe someone can look at this file and gain some insight on how Bell settings are different from the rest of the world.
I also have copies of the registry files, but am having a little difficulty uploading them for the moment.
I'm in the same boat with my AT&T Topaz that I've got running on Bell. Any help on this would be appreciated.
Does anything in Settings->Phone->Network need to be changed when provisioning the phone? Mine only shows 302880 and Rogers as available networks, with 302880 being the preferred.
302880 is Bell, and I think it could be Telus as well.
I am really hoping that someone smarter than me can look at this file and modify it to work in an HTC phone.
I have only looked at it with Notepad after unzipping the file with 7-Zip, and the xml file puts a bunch of settings into a Samsung folder in the registry.
My provisioning process...
Here's my provisioning process. Maybe someone can point out something I'm doing wrong:
a) Start->Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks
b) Click "New"
c) Under "General" enter "Bell Mobility" as name
d) Under "Modem" click "New"
i) Enter "Bell Mobility" as name
ii) Select "Cellular Modem (GPRS, 3G)" under Modem type
iii) Enter "pda.bell.ca" under "Access Point Name"
iv) Leave User/Pwd/Domain blank e) Under Proxy Settings:
i) Check "this network connects to the internet"
ii) Check "this network uses a proxy..."
iii) Enter "web.wireless.bell.ca" under "Proxy Server"
f) Under "Network Manager" Select "Bell Mobility" from the drop down under "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using:"
For MMS, I repeat the process above, replacing "Bell Mobility" with "Bell Mobilty MMS". In the messaging app, I go into "SMS/MMS" and select "MMS Options" from the menu. On the "Servers" tab I enter the following:
a) Server Name: "Bell Mobility MMS"
b) Gateway: <leave blank>
c) Port Number: 80 <this is the default>
d) Server Address: "http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc"
e) Connect via: "Bell Mobility MMS"
f) Send Limit: "300K"
g) WAP Version: "WAP 2.0" <this is the default>
h) Select "Done" to go back to the "Servers" tab
i) Select the "Bell Mobility MMS" entry and click "Set as default".
j) Select OK to close the MMS Options and Reboot/Soft Reset
Link to Bell Samsung Omnia II Registry files
Provisioning looks fine.
This thread is dealing with the roaming issue on Bell Mobility.
I have uploaded the registry files from my Bell Mobility Omnia II for someone to see what can be modified on my Fuze or any other HTC phone for that matter to work on Bell without the roaming symbol.
I noticed a number of unusual items when searching for "302"
Bell Samsung registry files
There are quite a few differences under the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr] vs what I have on my hand provisioned phone. I'm tempted to just delete that branch of my registry and reimport this one just to see what would happen along with the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook] branch. I can always hard reset is there's a problem.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\RIL] also has some stuff that I don't have.
I have tried making a copy of the ril.dll file, but it seems to be blocked from copying from the Bell phone. There are also a few rilbubble.dll files and a rilgsm.dll file on the Bell phone.
I tried importing the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr] and [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook] branches but it made no difference. In fact I noticed that the phone thinks its roaming before the HSPA connection even comes online. I'm starting to think that this is something to do with the network and not the phone. Is it possible that Bell is monitoring IMEI numbers at the network level and that any IMEI they don't have in their DB they identify as roaming?
Did you notice that [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\State] has a lot of subdirectories containing "302"?
ie [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\State\RIL\NetID\CS]
"302880"="Bell"
I also wonder about the Samsung directory being full of phone stuff.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\State\SAMSUNG\Phone]
If any of these are being referenced by the ril.dll file or some other file, I cannot even figure out how to copy these files from the phone to dissect.
Did you try to copy the dll files to the SD card with Total Commander?
Btw, I don't see a [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\State\RIL\NetID\CS] branch in the registry files you posted.
Sorry, I will upload the registry files before a sim card was inserted later this evening. I thought about that after. I just cleared memory on the Bell phone, and a bunch of registries are not there now. I may have cleared memory with a sim card still in it before.
Yes I have tried Total Commander and a few others, and the files will not be copied. I am ready to try dumping the rom and checking to see what I can.
I do need to sell this Omnia 2 soon before it starts to lose its value too much.
I doubt the ril files will make any difference on a HTC anyway. They basically broker the calls between the OS and radio firmware. The HTC radios will be so different they wouldn't do anything anyway.
Well I have tried importing a number of these settings to the point that other things have dropped off, or changed, but that annoying little roaming symbol remains.
I have an I8000 kitchen, and I am going to dump the ROM from the Omnia2 before I sell it, so I have something to take apart and examine. I don't know how that would interface with an HTC kitchen, but I will keep on trying until I get this.
I believe that Bell would have a program AND some settings in the registry to cause problems for other phones. Just talking with ANY Bell rep about basic internet settings on the HTC shows off their bad attitude and pride, so I would not put anything past them.
Thank you for your help on this codf4ther. I know their is a growing number that would like to see this issue resolved.
I've been looking at some other threads on howardforums about unlocked phones. Whats interesting is that the NexusOne doesn't seem to show as roaming. Telus Android phones (Milestone) don't show as roaming, but Rogers and Fido Phones do.
Bell and Telus share the same towers and basic connection, so it seems reasonable that a Telus phone will work fine on Bell. I am tempted to get a Telus SIM and try that theory with this Bell Omnia2, but I have yet to unlock it. I'm looking for the best unlocking price (free would be great since I will be selling it anyway).
prcme said:
Bell and Telus share the same towers and basic connection, so it seems reasonable that a Telus phone will work fine on Bell. I am tempted to get a Telus SIM and try that theory with this Bell Omnia2, but I have yet to unlock it. I'm looking for the best unlocking price (free would be great since I will be selling it anyway).
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Telus is explainable, but why wouldn't the Nexus show up as roaming?
Hello, I think my phone is simlocked. I bought my nexus s from carphonewarhouse here in the UK on vodafone contract.
My vodafone simcard works fine but if I put another carrier simcard in, it says no service but I have full/good reception. Also it does not ask for a simlock unlock code!
WHen I manually choose the network it says, unable to connect to the network.
I have changed roms etc.. to stock and even tried 2.3.2 radio and the 2 new 2.3.3 radios!
Please help? I thought all nexus s works with any network?
all Nexus comes sim unlocked
if you try another network, make sure it has the correct frequencies supported
Did you try radios meant for the other carrier's network?
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Did you try radios meant for the other carrier's network?
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I couldn't find them, do u know where I can get it from? I tried all network Sims in the UK, none work except vodafone.
You probably have manually selected Vodafone in the past and the phone tries to connect to Vodafone. You have to go into settings and select 'automatic network selection' or manually select another network.
Am I the only one stoked by the timestamp on the op <.< 1337
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georgemv said:
You probably have manually selected Vodafone in the past and the phone tries to connect to Vodafone. You have to go into settings and select 'automatic network selection' or manually select another network.
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I've tried that, it says "cannot connect to the network"
Check your APN settings (Settings, Wirelss & network, mobile networks, APN).
You might have success by manually adding the correct ones for the network you're attempting to connect to.
Are you inserting ACTIVATED SIM cards? Also does making voice calls work on it? If voice works and data doesn't, it's your APN settings that need adjustments.
-Nexus S
Hi,
I am unable to use 3G on htc desire. I have set the correct APN. The problem is that when I choose "WCDMA" as the network mode, it automatically switches back to "GSM only". The place where I live has no problem with 3G availability. I feel the problem lies more with my handset. Can someone please help ? Is there anything that I can do to get rid of this problem. My phone has lost its warranty since I unlocked it.
Have you tried any other operator sim card? It's a good troubleshooting to do when this kind of problems happen...
Had problems like that before and it was an incorrect APN setup.
Thanks for getting back. I tried with a different sim and a different operator. They were also not successful. APN setting is perfectly right for the current sim. The APN settings were given by the operator.
rkk1 said:
Thanks for getting back. I tried with a different sim and a different operator. They were also not successful. APN setting is perfectly right for the current sim. The APN settings were given by the operator.
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Are you using any kind of widget to switch APN on / off, 2G/3g ?... I noticed that for example, Widgetsoid can mess with 3g connection so much that sometimes you need to remove it and reboot the phone so you can get things working again.
Try using another SIM card too. It may give you a clue on what's going on: wrong settings / card with no data activated / etc ...
I am not using any widget to turn on/off the 3g. EDGE services work on my mobile while 3G is not working. If I use the sim card on to a different mobile, 3G works fine without any problem. Tried using another sim card with 3G data activated and that also did not work fine for me on HTC Desire.
Hello
I just recently got the optimus 3d. its brilliant!
With the help of this forum I've managed to root and get Clockwork then install thais rom.
amazing speed increase.
But i have just one issue.
My phone was locked to orange uk provider. when i bought the phone I had to call orange to have my phone 'activated'
only after i did that did the phone even receive a signal.
before that it just said emergency call only, or no signal.
now, i've unlocked the phone using a code. it now says no personalization when i check the lock menu.
but: when i insert another sim, vodaphone uk or 3 uk, it says emergency call only or no network.
whats going on?
please help...
thanks
after a search it seems other people also have this issue with no reply.
did anyone else have this problem and fix it?
pauliebb said:
Hello
My phone was locked to orange uk provider. when i bought the phone I had to call orange to have my phone 'activated'
only after i did that did the phone even receive a signal.
before that it just said emergency call only, or no signal.
now, i've unlocked the phone using a code. it now says no personalization when i check the lock menu.
but: when i insert another sim, vodaphone uk or 3 uk, it says emergency call only or no network.
whats going on?
please help...
thanks
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The activation bit is for the sim card, I have a phone locked to O2 and what happens is you register the sim with them and then they enable it to use their network which is why until then it will say no network.
It is also the reason why if you put any other sim in the phone, and that sim has not yet been used to make calls, you get the same error.
As for the personalisation message on the unlock menu, I am unsure what you mean by the lock menu. I assume you mean the screen you see before you unlock your phone to use it each time, and did a search on google which produced no results but I would guess that if you are using a custom rom the message means you either have not personalised your screen or that the option is there to personalise it but has not been used.
Dave
mistermentality said:
The activation bit is for the sim card, I have a phone locked to O2 and what happens is you register the sim with them and then they enable it to use their network which is why until then it will say no network.
It is also the reason why if you put any other sim in the phone, and that sim has not yet been used to make calls, you get the same error.
As for the personalisation message on the unlock menu, I am unsure what you mean by the lock menu. I assume you mean the screen you see before you unlock your phone to use it each time, and did a search on google which produced no results but I would guess that if you are using a custom rom the message means you either have not personalised your screen or that the option is there to personalise it but has not been used.
Dave
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unlock menu - where you enter the network unlock code.
i'm trying to use my 3 uk sim, its been on contract for over 2 years.
I know that a lot of unlocked phones wont work with 3, if you google 3 unlock you will find a lot of people have problems and some unlock companies even specify they wont unlock to 3 network but if it does the same with non 3 cards or only works with one operator perhaps the unlock was only partial?
I did a search for pedsonalisation and all I found were various unlock sites saying that a sucessful unlock needs you to have a personalisation menu.
My previous android phone had a device lock and a sim lock, could it be your unlock has only partially worked? Is it only one provider whose network you can access?
Dave
mistermentality said:
I know that a lot of unlocked phones wont work with 3, if you google 3 unlock you will find a lot of people have problems and some unlock companies even specify they wont unlock to 3 network but if it does the same with non 3 cards or only works with one operator perhaps the unlock was only partial?
I did a search for pedsonalisation and all I found were various unlock sites saying that a sucessful unlock needs you to have a personalisation menu.
My previous android phone had a device lock and a sim lock, could it be your unlock has only partially worked? Is it only one provider whose network you can access?
Dave
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you're being really helpful so i give thanks.
i have tried o2 and vodafone sims in the phone also but to no avail... always says emergency only or no network, with both showing no signal.
would flashing the original orange rom back then retrying the lock code help? as of right now when i go to the unlock menu and click network lock it prompts a message stating my phone has no personalization.
sorry missed out a little bit of info.
the only network that works is orange, it gets full signal and works perfect, but i'd really like to use my contract sim instead of pay as you go extra on orange.
I've done some more searching and found that on a lot of phones that personalisation message means the phone unlock has failed and that after a successful unlock it should say something like "network lock has been personalised".
You do only get a certain number of tries so don't enter the code over and over, if you are sure you entered it correctly it means the code you got just didn't work (I had that when unlocking my previous LG and had to buy a code from somewhere else as the first one didn't work at all).
I am not recommending this site, it's just one that explained how to unlock so am posting a link in case it helps, but the site says you need to enter two codes on an Optimus 3D. One is for network lock and one for service provider lock, I know that some people on the xda forums have unlocked their phones so I hope they will jump in and help solve your problem as really all I can do is google for the bits I am unsure of but it would seem your code did not work, or that you need two codes and only had one.
Dave
mistermentality said:
I've done some more searching and found that on a lot of phones that personalisation message means the phone unlock has failed and that after a successful unlock it should say something like "network lock has been personalised".
You do only get a certain number of tries so don't enter the code over and over, if you are sure you entered it correctly it means the code you got just didn't work (I had that when unlocking my previous LG and had to buy a code from somewhere else as the first one didn't work at all).
I am not recommending this site, it's just one that explained how to unlock so am posting a link in case it helps, but the site says you need to enter two codes on an Optimus 3D. One is for network lock and one for service provider lock, I know that some people on the xda forums have unlocked their phones so I hope they will jump in and help solve your problem as really all I can do is google for the bits I am unsure of but it would seem your code did not work, or that you need two codes and only had one.
Dave
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just wondering if i could post a video link here to show how it happens, if not, mods can you delete this link:
http://videobam.com/YqMQH
might need to tilt head/computer screen
that was with orange sim, without orange sim it shows no signal and no network... its running thais rom.
heres a video of it using another sim.
when i start the phone with other sim, it prompts whether i'd like to use mobile data or not, but no connection!
pauliebb said:
just wondering if i could post a video link here to show how it happens, if not, mods can you delete this link:
http://videobam.com/YqMQH
might need to tilt head/computer screen
that was with orange sim, without orange sim it shows no signal and no network... its running thais rom.
heres a video of it using another sim.
when i start the phone with other sim, it prompts whether i'd like to use mobile data or not, but no connection!
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http://videobam.com/ScZMP
Well having watched your videos I can clear up something, I think.
I had searched for terms based around "no personalisation available" which means your code did not work but searching for the actual message in the video "your phone is not personalised" produced completely different results.
That specific message means the option you are clicking on is not locked (not personalised by your provider) at least according to various pages I have found including a few on other well known Android forums so if that's correct your unlock did actually work and that is why the message appears.
The page at http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/LG_enter_NCK_code also mentions this code and its cause.
If the other sims you try offer you data or mobile but do not connect, yet you can make calls, then you need to set up your apn for that provider. The apn tells your phone how to connect to your provider.
This is really easy to do but you will need a free app called Apn global from the android market at https://market.android.com/details?id=osatek.apn.global obviously you need it on your device which can be done in various ways, possibly easiest if you can connect via wifi and go to the market.
Install and run it, pick the name of your provider (the provider whose sim you wish to use) and it will create the mms and internet settings for you. Then mobile data should work.
Alternatively if you have an android phone which you already use that sim on, install to that phone and choose the apps backup option which will backup your exact settings to sd card so you can import them to another android phone.
If you have other providers apns on there you will probably need to tell the phone to use your new settings. Simply go to your phones settings menu, find the wireless settings option and click it then scroll down the screen to "mobile networks" and click that. Then click "Access point names" and choose the desired provider. I have three on my phone and you can always revert to any other settings if you change provider later.
The apn app is very useful, I have used it on a few phones, it has a large list of providers worldwide so you should find your choice of provider there and hopefully that will solve your problem.
Dave
Thanks for the reply dave, but I have yet more bad news sadly.
I can't actually make calls, as shown in the second video it shows no network/emergency calls only.
It's hard to believe no-one else has this issue.
I have owned lots of android in the past(started with g1, then hero, then jumped to zte blade then galaxy 1, now this) none of them posed any difficulty removing network lock.
Its such a strange problem that a search of this forum shows at least one other person had this issue but no-one could help.
Sorry if this sounds stupid but have you gone into the settings menu on your phone (Settings/Wireless and Networks/Mobile Networks/) and chosen the "select your network provider" option?
There you can force your phone to use a specific network provider.
Dave
mistermentality said:
Sorry if this sounds stupid but have you gone into the settings menu on your phone (Settings/Wireless and Networks/Mobile Networks/) and chosen the "select your network provider" option?
There you can force your phone to use a specific network provider.
Dave
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I have with error "Unable to connect to this network at this time. Please try again later."
I don't think I can help, though I did some more googling and on the cyanogen mod forums someone posted a similar problem....
I've been using the nightly builds of CM7 since they came out and have had no network problems. I then installed version 7.0 [stable] when it came out, and just yesterday I installed version 7.0.3 [stable].
I have had no signal since, and whenever I try and select my network from the Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Network Operators, it comes up saying "Unable to connect to this network at this time. Please try again later.".
It is nothing to do with my network provider, as my brother's phone works fine and he is on the same network as me.
I am on Three Mobile.
Please help!
RESOLVED: I just wiped all userdata and reflashed CM 7.0.3, I'm a very impatient person
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If you fail to get a solution this option may help but probably best as a last resort. One thing I did notice when watching your second video is that you have the wireless on, this will stop your phone connecting to any providers mobile data so at least as far as mobile data goes you won't be able to use it when connected to wifi and would have to switch wifi off in order to test the mobile data connection.
Also I know that on my O3D my wireless sometimes seems to cause my phone signal to switch off with the little x. I doubt that is the cause of your problem but may be worth trying to connect with no wifi.
Dave
mistermentality said:
I don't think I can help, though I did some more googling and on the cyanogen mod forums someone posted a similar problem....
If you fail to get a solution this option may help but probably best as a last resort. One thing I did notice when watching your second video is that you have the wireless on, this will stop your phone connecting to any providers mobile data so at least as far as mobile data goes you won't be able to use it when connected to wifi and would have to switch wifi off in order to test the mobile data connection.
Also I know that on my O3D my wireless sometimes seems to cause my phone signal to switch off with the little x. I doubt that is the cause of your problem but may be worth trying to connect with no wifi.
Dave
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I'm going to try reinstall the original orange rom that came with it and downgrade baseband, if that fails to work after a full reinstall using lgflashtool I'll have to try get another phone.
thanks for all your help dave, i really appreciate it!
A popular unlock site says the only steps needed to unlock to any network are...
1. Input a non accepted simcard
2. Phone will display enter “Sim network unlock PIN” or “Enter Network Unlock Code”
3. Input the 8 or 16 digit unlock code that was emailed to you
4. Phone is unlocked!
If you did this, which you obviously have, your phone is unlocked and the problem must be something else but if you're going to flash a copy of the orange rom you might want to check first with one of the more knowledgeable users here that the rom won't replace some of the locks you already removed.
I checked around and from what I have found it should be as easy as put the new providers apn on your phone, select their settings from mobile networks menu for provider and also mobile data and that should work.
One orange customer who unlocked a different model android phone found that all they had to do was flash the radio only (not the rom), not sure how you do that but there are probably guides on xda.
Dave
I flashed the original orange rom and after flashing the froyo basrband it suddenly worked. Flashed gb again and it still worked, seems i just hsd to reflash basebsnd/radio like you said.
Thank you so much
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Hi pauliebb,
I have the same problem that you had. I bought a used unlock O3D vodafone ES to gift to my brother, he lives in south america and he told me that the mobile does not recognize his SIM. What did you exactly do you did to reflash the baseband firmware???
I supposed thet the mobile is unlock because it shows the same message when enter to the unlock options "phone is not personalised"
Regards
the same problem
i have the same problem, i have phone from plus gsm poland, phone is not personalizet but read only sim card from plus, diffrent card not read and show info no sim card, help me how resolve this problem?
i am using AT&T's Samsung galaxy s2 skyrocket (unlocked), i am unable to select a network operator manually. As i keep going around different countries, i keep on purchasing local sim cards for calling home, so i need to select the network manually, otherwise it will select the network which has best signal strength and i may land up paying heavy charges for roaming.
when i go to wireless and network/ mobile networks/ network operators only thing which comes written is "DEFAULT SETUP" and that is greyed out. (when i tap on nothing happens).
also when i change back to my old AT&T sim, i am able to access that greyed out area, but when i put another sim "DEFAULT SETUP" is again inaccessible.
can someone please guide me through it..??
Are you using the stock ROM?
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I have bought the phone just a weak ago... i have changed nothing except for SIM card....
actually i dont know any thing about ROMs and i m new to android also... i just guess that above written satisfies your question.
well thats your answer. You can not do that on stock att firmware
what modifications i have to do .... to achieve the desired results...??
and please tell HOW to do also....!!
You need to flush custom ROM that supports changing network operator settings.
Look at this post if you would like to use custom ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464