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App To Sync Music

I'm a big Foobar2000 user, and I have an Android phone (G1 - but it's basically a mass storage device). I'm having big trouble trying to find a good way to sync music with it.
Foobar2000 doesn't seem to have a component to do this, MediaMonkey sucks ass (clunky, few relevant options etc.). DoubleTwist and SongBird are also poor solutions (no artwork support, no Vorbis etc).
So, what is everyone using to sync their portables? I'd love some kind of artwork renaming and resizing too. Oh, and of course, Vorbis encoding.
Thanks guys!
Also before anyone asks - Vorbis artwork is supported in Android by using AlbumArt.jpg in the album folder! Yay!

Not quite what you specified but have you tried Subsonic? I use it to stream all my music over 3g and wifi it's much easier than having to choose what I want to bring on my phone.

I'm using Songbird + mountUSB on the phone and it's working great
P.S.: don't forget to set folder structure something like Artist / Album / files, otherwise your sdcard FS will look messed up!
edit: ooops, just realized you said Songbird is bad.... but why? it has everything you need, and if not, get a plugin for it?
P.P.S.: @ no vorbis support, isn't there a plugin for that? search gave me the following result:
http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Media_Cores/GStreamer_Setup/GStreamer_Plugins_Guide
so maybe you should try building GStreamer on windows (lots of work i guess, however)

Funkstar De Luxe said:
I'm a big Foobar2000 user, and I have an Android phone (G1 - but it's basically a mass storage device). I'm having big trouble trying to find a good way to sync music with it.
Foobar2000 doesn't seem to have a component to do this, MediaMonkey sucks ass (clunky, few relevant options etc.). DoubleTwist and SongBird are also poor solutions (no artwork support, no Vorbis etc).
So, what is everyone using to sync their portables? I'd love some kind of artwork renaming and resizing too. Oh, and of course, Vorbis encoding.
Thanks guys!
Also before anyone asks - Vorbis artwork is supported in Android by using AlbumArt.jpg in the album folder! Yay!
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I use MediaMonkey Gold which adds TONS more options and runs smoothly and efficiently for me. I have no problems with it.

Have you tried Winamp? That's what I use.

iVisionX01 said:
Have you tried Winamp? That's what I use.
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Not sure if this solution would work for you, but I just started using Moozone and have been messing with it for the past couple hours now...
It's an on-line storage site for your music (upload your music to their site) and you can stream it from anywhere where you have a net connection. Also, they have an Android app that allows you to upload/download and stream directly over your data/wi-fi connection.
Shockingly, the steaming through the app over the network is really smooth and sounds pretty good!
You can set up playlists and other features...

I'd like to know too I tried doubleTwist.

Kazan22 said:
I use MediaMonkey Gold which adds TONS more options and runs smoothly and efficiently for me. I have no problems with it.
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Agreed, Media Monkey Gold v 3.2, does everything I need! No, I haven't tried the other ideas that you had listed or what others have listed here because Media Monkey does it all for me, it syncs with my phone, and I easily configured it to sync with my Music folder on my SD. The music, the Album art, and much more. I haven't been able to see ratings on my phone, that's not a big deal for me, maybe for you, but I don't mind. If you give it a try again and need help with it, let me know and I'll help however I can.

I've tried a few of these...and MediaMonkey Gold is the best of them. It converts my high bitrate music down to something more appropriate for my phone on the fly. Also handles artwork well too.

a beautiful audio/video player FINALLY!

double twist media player is out in market now! very nice UI. id say best looking player we have so far

btunes > double twist
It's stupid that you need their syncing software to add media. They don't even support linux

U dont. I just unchekd "auto USB drive" in settings, and it found all my songs.

it seems ok but I prefer 3 (cubed), I think its prettier ^^

Killer feature though is that when skipping through a track you can grab the position indicator and drag up the screen to change sensitivity just like on the iPhone. That and that alone makes this the best player for me.
Bring on an EQ and I will rejoice!

I think the best players are: 3, Nemo, and this. Anyone of them can be considered pretty.

I just discovered this music mod for the default music player.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690180
just installed it and I have to say its pretty.
My main player is 3 but I think i'll stick with this music mod.

DoubleTwist doesn't hold a candle to cacheinjection's stock music mod. Not even a flicker of a candle.

It would be great if it could sync with my Google Listen subscriptions fron Google Reader

helfone said:
it seems ok but I prefer 3 (cubed), I think its prettier ^^
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Agreed =] 3 is my personal favorite.

Does it support srt files for videos? Can´t test becuse i´m at work

RaQHoliday said:
Agreed =] 3 is my personal favorite.
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the only reason for why i dont like 3 (cubed) is that it doesnt have the option to show the list of song titles

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
the only reason for why i dont like 3 (cubed) is that it doesnt have the option to show the list of song titles
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yes it does. menu - view - boring, then pick the artist/album and the song list pops up

I use Meridian. The only player that lets you browse by directories, and the only player that supports some other languages for song titles. I dont like playlists

Can someone post the APK for doubleTwist? I'm currently in asian and a TON of apps don't appear in the market.
Thanks in advance

The only issue I have with doubletwist is that it doesn't let me point it at a specific directory, and for some reason it makes and keeps it's own media library xml.

So far no problems here, for me the app is working perfect and love how quick it loads up the videos an I have 100's of them
HTC Incredible

timothydonohue said:
yes it does. menu - view - boring, then pick the artist/album and the song list pops up
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what i mean is showing all the song titles like the stock music app

DoubleTwist player lists your audio that's on the microSD card that's in \alarms, \ringtones, \notifications folders.
Very annoying if you have a lot of ringers.
Stock music app doesn't list those folders.

Why is it so hard to find a decent music player?

It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.

mwxiao said:
It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.

alphadog00 said:
Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.

I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.

Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.

I feel your pain; I've had trouble finding a music player I really liked too. As of now, I'm just using the stock Samsung Music Player.
...which actually isn't that bad. It works well enough and the 5.1 feature is awesome.

check doubletwist. very good GUI and has itunes compatibility but I have not used that personally

DoubleTwist is a good music player and can export your playlists from itunes. They syncing is a bit slow tho.

I really had a hard time with doubletwist, and it took forever to start up on the pc.
I would recommend 'Songbird' on the desktop. It's built on top of a Mozilla Firefox framework, has great plug-ins and extensions, and via MTP can sync playlists with M3Us to the captivate, and then mixzing as the player on the captivate.

noidd said:
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
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Thanks a lot. The Android music player is much better than the Samsung one. Though I have a few bugs for just 10 min of try. Well, it's actually not a big of a deal. Playlist works fine, album art works fine. And that's all I am asking for.

closeshave2 said:
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
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+1 on this app, you can use the stock samsung player, and double twist recongizes the playlists as well. it was much easier and faster on my computer as well. syching around 6 gigs of music only took around 15 mintues as opposed to over 2 hours with double twist.

ANOTHER good and easy to use apps is called "itunes agent". All you have to do is plug in the phone as USB drive and use it to sync you songs. Check it out. I use it for my WinMo phone and it is probably one of the best tool for sync songs to my phne.

mwxiao said:
Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
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I had all my music in iTunes (many files were AAC - ripped that way before i knew better) and I learned the hardway that iTunes some funky things. I actually used MP3tag to fix the tags - lots of Android phones don't like the tags if some fields are empty - this has the effect of showing uknown artist and maybe empty album art. iTunes added some funky stuff to some of the tags, so once i got it all cleaned up and made sure the album artwork was embedded in the tags all was good.
As for playlists - you could try Samsung Kies - it does sync with the phone and allows you to make playlists. I have not tried it for syncing yet.

Music and Android?

I think this is the one area Apple beats Android, you connect your iPhone it syncs no hassle, On android its all a bit of a nightmare.
I've tried Double Twist but the damn thing is painfully slow to sync, can't edit duplicates and whatever else, it looks good but thats about it.
Winamp looked good on the surface, I made my playlist went to sync it took forever, then when I added more songs to a particular playlist and went to sync again rather than adding to the original playlist on the phone it created another playlist, so you actually have 2 playlist of the same playlist old and new.
So basically I need a way to sync and a player on the phone. I appreciate you can just dump all your tracks on the music folder but its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way, so they would need organised prior to going onto the phone.
Any advice?

Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!

em.20 said:
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Lol same here, mp3tag owns.

Winamp works fine for me; no duplicate playlists. Maybe give that another shot? I love winamp on the PC though, so my perception may be skewed a bit by fanboyism. You could try the Google Music Beta as well. I thought I wouldn't like it, but having my entire 200 GB music library streamable is pretty handy. Personally, I prefer to manually sort and tag my tracks on my PC.

Combo Winamp + mp3tag.
But i do'nt sync with winamp, putting mp3 on the folders is much faster...

i've been using google's music beta service to stream music to me laptop/phone. works great. only issue is the new music app has no controls in the notification center or lockscreen.

slugger09 said:
its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way
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I don't understand. Your music app will automatically find your mp3's and categorize them for you. Just put your MP3's anywhere on your SD card and you're done.

Make music folder, drag and drop
I hated how ipods have to sync, like if I go to my friends house want want some songs then delete my songs then put all of his songs grrr iTunes...
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drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.

em.20 said:
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Unfortunately and I can't speak about mp3tag, but dragging and dropping at least doesn't compress the audio file to save space at no reduction of quality. Itunes does this, and Itunes really isn't all that hard to use either.
Audio from Apple devices are better quality most times, but multimedia is one of Apple's strong parts.(Although also a lot of times you won't notice a difference) The original music app for Android is okay for just music, HTC's is okay, Miui is pretty nice, and the new music app from Google is pretty nice too. The audio support for Android is getting better.

I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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rumblee1 said:
I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either

Great post and some really useful tips there. I love resource lists like this. Have social bookmarked it in the hope that others can also benefit.

thanks for the tips

I also do drag and drop, but yes apple is smoother in this area.

slugger09 said:
It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
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What you are describing here is what I do on "PowerAmp". I have folders (has option for folders or library), then if I want I use the built in "Que" to select songs from different folders. You can also edit tags in PowerAmp.

Wow. And here I thought I was the only one who uses mp3tag.

mp3tag , is a great

+ 1 mp3 tag
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Gorship said:
drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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i use meridian only to play mp3 for a single directory

Android non-streaming music player

I'm looking for something that plays the files on my SD card but that gives me my folder tree structure like I use on my desktop with Jriver Media Center. Tag organisation is great, but for lots of my music, folders and subfolders help keep my collection organised.
Is there anything that can read the folder tree of my SD card like that in an Android music app, give me some file info (encoder, bitrate, etc) and give me some interesting UI options?
Thanks!

By far the best music player I've found is Poweramp. It costs a few bucks after the trial period ends, but IMO it's worth every penny.

ganns1980 said:
By far the best music player I've found is Poweramp. It costs a few bucks after the trial period ends, but IMO it's worth every penny.
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Thanks. But no folder view for albums.

Search for MyPlayer++ were in XDA
or HikiPlayer on the play store

I am after the same thing; I tried the Samsung Music APK on my Nexus 6P and it did not install....

filtragem said:
Search for MyPlayer++ were in XDA
or HikiPlayer on the play store
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Wow... MyPlayer++ is pretty close to perfect. But for some reason it's the only app I've seen that has trouble with some of my artwork?

here some suggestion,
phonograph
shuttle+
pulse music

Myplayer++ is awesome. I've been using it for about a week. There has been some jitter though, which I will post in that thread about.