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Technical Think Tank for Bricked MyTouch3G / Magic

Mirror the similar thread in Dream forum, I started this thread as a constructive and positive place for those of us that have recently lost our MyTouch or Magic.
I am going to document the steps I took and hopefully reverse engineer this issue and also prevent other folks from doing the same mistake. This forum has been and good source of info. Thanks
What I did
Following [How-To] Root the T-Mobile myTouch 3G and I was able to flush to 2005 SPL and root successful as 32A rom.
Then I stop at "For Daredevils" and went with a different route.
I took the MT3G OTA (signed-opal-ota-150449.95700137.zip) and resigned it with test key and try to update it.
Update was done successfully and radio firmware updated at the same time and once reboot I got red screen of death.
What I got now
Red brick or Red screen of death
Power up while holding 'Back' button, volume down or any other button always result in Red Vodafone logo of death. I can't get to fastboot.
I can't get to recovery or fastboot which mean I can't do anything at all.
What I suspect
Flashing the radio (unclear what ver#) from MT3G OTA build (signed-opal-ota-150449.95700137.zip) might be that reason why it bricked.
Perhaps I probably should have followed the rest of the steps on "For Daredevils" and flash the ION radio and 32B RAv1.2.0G recovery, after that than trying to update with MT3G OTA without the radio.

I read somewhere in the forum (I forgot where), the reason why a bricked phone couldn't boot to SPL and not able to fastboot was because the radio firmware was loaded during SPL startup. Due to issue with loading radio firmware, SPL won't start properly.
Base on that, what we can try is to re-flash the radio firmware. How?
Maybe i can put the radio firmware as update.zip but how can i get the phone to load it when i can't fastboot

waacow said:
I read somewhere in the forum (I forgot where), the reason why a bricked phone couldn't boot to SPL and not able to fastboot was because the radio firmware was loaded during SPL startup. Due to issue with loading radio firmware, SPL won't start properly.
Base on that, what we can try is to re-flash the radio firmware. How?
Maybe i can put the radio firmware as update.zip but how can i get the phone to load it when i can't fastboot
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It's my opinion. If there is a way, that probably (track ball)+(power), the only key combination we(?) can see .
Let's find a way!

waacow said:
What I suspect
Flashing the radio (unclear what ver#) from MT3G OTA build (signed-opal-ota-150449.95700137.zip) might be that reason why it bricked.
Perhaps I probably should have followed the rest of the steps on "For Daredevils" and flash the ION radio and 32B RAv1.2.0G recovery, after that than trying to update with MT3G OTA without the radio.
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I think we have exactly same problem.
I'm sorry. I misunderstood. But I flashed ION radio. then...I got a pretty red brick!

I do not believe my phone is bricked but I believe it's pretty close...
My Rogers HTC Magic will not boot/load any recovery. I had a fully functional magic for several months using lots of different roms, however I developed a problem with one of the roms and after trying to install a new one, I can no longer boot any rom.
I can only boot into the fastboot screen, which says the following:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32A ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
Everytime I try to either boot ANY (RA/cyan version) recoveries from either fastboot or flashing it, it does not want to start up.
I can flash just fine, however I do not know if anything is working correctly because only fastboot is accessible, everything else just sits at a rogers logo.
What should I do next?

drewX2 said:
I do not believe my phone is bricked but I believe it's pretty close...
My Rogers HTC Magic will not boot/load any recovery. I had a fully functional magic for several months using lots of different roms, however I developed a problem with one of the roms and after trying to install a new one, I can no longer boot any rom.
I can only boot into the fastboot screen, which says the following:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32A ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
Everytime I try to either boot ANY (RA/cyan version) recoveries from either fastboot or flashing it, it does not want to start up.
I can flash just fine, however I do not know if anything is working correctly because only fastboot is accessible, everything else just sits at a rogers logo.
What should I do next?
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fastboot flash radio <the correct radio>

Where do I find these radio files? And thanks for the help! I had no clue I needed to flash the radio

drewX2 said:
Where do I find these radio files? And thanks for the help! I had no clue I needed to flash the radio
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you can get the radio img's from htc...
http://developer.htc.com/google-io-device.html

I have flashed the radio and still get only a rogers screen. I also have reflashed everything with original rogers magic files found on the forum (boot/system/userdata/recovery).
Still only have fastboot working
UPDATE: Got Recovery working. I flashed the radio/recovery from a givemeroot.zip I saw for those flashing the mt3g. I believe it can be used on this as well. Next step is to get a rom loaded

Flashed HardSPL and permabrick mt3g
I have been running Hero ROM's with no issues until today when I flashed a Hard SPL because I wanted to try Cyanogen latest. The new SPL bricked the phone, no power -splash- hboot, just a black screen.
The previous ROM's I have been flashing didn't need a new SPL. Are you not supposed to flash the SPL on the mt3g?
Thanks in advance for the input.

robotician said:
I think we have exactly same problem.
I'm sorry. I misunderstood. But I flashed ION radio. then...I got a pretty red brick!
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Same thing happend to me too, followed the steps till the radio part, flashed the radio - red brick. luckily i manged to get mine exchanged.
edit: duh, sorry seemed to be a somewhat old post/topic

Any progress on this guys???

drewX2 said:
I do not believe my phone is bricked but I believe it's pretty close...
My Rogers HTC Magic will not boot/load any recovery. I had a fully functional magic for several months using lots of different roms, however I developed a problem with one of the roms and after trying to install a new one, I can no longer boot any rom.
I can only boot into the fastboot screen, which says the following:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32A ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
Everytime I try to either boot ANY (RA/cyan version) recoveries from either fastboot or flashing it, it does not want to start up.
I can flash just fine, however I do not know if anything is working correctly because only fastboot is accessible, everything else just sits at a rogers logo.
What should I do next?
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ummm... okay, I believe it could be easy goings here, if you go to one of the threads, which I believe you can find fairly easily, to switch radio/SPL through fastboot...
Rogers Magic should NOT use 2.22 radio, but either 3.22 or 6.35, unless of course you are using the dream, which is a different thing all together. Then, push the recovery you want (clockwork or amon RA), if after switch spl/radio, does not work. and voila, theres your fix
**NVM, didn't realize your question got answered

cyanogene won't boot on Vodafone 32b

Hi guys.
yesterday i tried to install cyanogene mod.
because i had an perfect spl, i used a Goldcard and flashed this -> ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010)
Everything worked fine. But then i tried to boot/flash the recovery mod but it didn't boot. I tried CM recovery and recovery-RA "G" then out of coriousity it tried the HTC version, and it worked. I thought i have to use the Google version for the 32B from Vodafone?
Anyway, then i wiped and flased HTC_ADP_1.6_DRC83_rooted_base.zip and then CM 4.2.5.
(i also only flased the HTC base rom without the CMod but it didnt boot either)
Then i rebooted and got stuck at the HTC MAgic screen forever. i waited like 10 minutes. i tried to make a nandriod backup -> restore but didnt worked either.
I dont know what to do =( now i'm back on original vodafone rom

Buddy, CyanogenMod is for 32A, Vodafone Magics are 32B, you won't be able to boot a 32A image on a 32B device. Sorry.

incredulous said:
Buddy, CyanogenMod is for 32A, Vodafone Magics are 32B, you won't be able to boot a 32A image on a 32B device. Sorry.
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CyanogenMod is originally built for 32B/Dream users. There are updates that allow it to run on 32A.
Natively your phone should be able to run Cyanogen ROM, but you've somehow flashed the 32A radio, SPL and recovery onto your phone.
You need to get back to the 32B radio and recovery.
This should point you in the right direction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548834

huh? so why is there a tutorial on the Cyanogen Mod wiki für 32B devices?
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you mean i flashed a 32A cyanogene rom?
when i flashed via goldcard everything was fine. i could boot into the os

What I'm saying is that by flashing the HTC 2.53 update you've essentially turned your phone into a 32A with less memory. It will boot, but it won't be ideal.
You'd be much better off not using a goldcard for anything and going back to the 32B radio and the G recovery image.

ah okay.
but other methods didnt work for me, because of the SPL version. (wasnt able to boot recovery image from adb with this SPL [fastboot remote: not allow)])
this Relentless Rooter for Magic program didnt work on my pc

Upgrading ROM to Hero

Hello.
I just got my Magic a few days ago, and i am considering trying to get the Hero ROM onto it heavily. However, as i just got it recently and it's not really a cheap phone, i really don't want to brick it.
So, how great is the chance it'll brick? Is there any way i can make the chance smaller (thinking different ROMs etc?), what is SPL and Radio?
This is the intel i managed to get from it:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32a SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
Patrick

not too easy to brick as long as you use the right spl see here

bonesy said:
not too easy to brick as long as you use the right spl see here
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Well, appearantly there's a bunch of people who actually manages to do so, what are they doing wrong?
Talking SPL, what is it? What is a perfect and a hard SPL? And how do i know what i currently have?

hold back while powering on your device at the top it will say HBOOT bla bla bla it will also say 32b/32a this is the key element, flashing a 32a onto 32b and vice versa could brick your device. Dont use the TW sense rom as that seems to brick devices
only download hboot from sapphire forums

bonesy said:
hold back while powering on your device at the top it will say HBOOT bla bla bla it will also say 32b/32a this is the key element, flashing a 32a onto 32b and vice versa could brick your device. Dont use the TW sense rom as that seems to brick devices
only download hboot from sapphire forums
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As i wrote in the original post, it's a 32a device. Do you have any links to a relevant guide for me? One which is really in-depth would be really great, as i am new to the android universe. Thank you

The MyHero ROM seems attractive to me, would anything hold me back from using that?
And by the way - if i change my mind after getting the Hero ROM on my device, is there any way to get the original ROM back onto it?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
Amon ra's recovery, This can save you! you will need to follow his tutorial and you will need one of his HBOOT's which he also has a tutorial.
once the hboot is done boot into recovery (home+power) perform a backup with nandroid and there is your failsafe,Once you have backed up choose your 32A rom taking note of what the Developer reccomends most of them link you to what you need.
Please read through their thread to make sure you know what to do.Anything your unsure of use the search button! Good luck

bonesy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
Amon ra's recovery, This can save you! you will need to follow his tutorial and you will need one of his HBOOT's which he also has a tutorial.
once the hboot is done boot into recovery (home+power) perform a backup with nandroid and there is your failsafe,Once you have backed up choose your 32A rom taking note of what the Developer reccomends most of them link you to what you need.
Please read through their thread to make sure you know what to do.Anything your unsure of use the search button! Good luck
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Thank you. I just got a last question, in what part of getting it from original to hero is the risk of bricking it?

Mainly the spl i think or the chance of flashing the wrong radio (i did wrong radio on 2 phones!) providing you read all the info correct from amon ra and other devs you should be ok.
If yours really is 32A i think youd be better to look for a sense ui rom BASED on the TW official rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552274 is one) but im not sure and take no responsibility.
By the way this should have been in general and not development forum

pixelkid said:
Thank you. I just got a last question, in what part of getting it from original to hero is the risk of bricking it?
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You only really need to be careful flashing the HBOOT/SPL
Go through all of the steps in section 2 of this guide:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02
Download Flashrec
[urlhttp://zenthought.org/system/files/asset/2/flashrec-1.1.3-20091107-2.apk[/url]
Enable USB debugging on your phone
Settings, Applications, Development, USB Debugging
Install Flashrec
adb install flashrec-1.1.3-20091107-2.apk
Download Amon_Ra Recovery
http://www.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.1H.img
Save it to your SD card as recovery.img
Run Recovery Flasher on your phone
Backup recovery
Type in the path to your new recovery:
/sdcard/recovery.img
Flash new recovery
Now you can flash custom ROMs.
At this point, you can also flash a new SPL onto your phone.
For 32A, I suggest the 1.33.2010 SPL
Make sure to read all directions very carefully. If you are not 100% confident in your abilities, you might want to get some further assistance.
If Flashrec won't run, you need to downgrade your phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
Downgrading will definitely void your warranty with no easy way to restore your original splash screen, it's pretty obvious to your wireless carrier that you've modified your phone.

bonesy said:
Mainly the spl i think or the chance of flashing the wrong radio (i did wrong radio on 2 phones!) providing you read all the info correct from amon ra and other devs you should be ok.
If yours really is 32A i think youd be better to look for a sense ui rom BASED on the TW official rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552274 is one) but im not sure and take no responsibility.
By the way this should have been in general and not development forum
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Flashing a 32B radio onto a 32A Magic will cause some trouble, but shouldn't brick the phone. The problem is that after flashing the 32B radio, you might have forgotten to flash a 32B recovery environment. If that's the case, then fastboot flash the 32B recovery.
It worked for me a few times when I was switching between 32B and 32A radios to try out different ROMs.
I did, however, brick a 32A Magic when I was flashing a new SPL. Not sure how it happened, glad I had warranty.

I was very into the PSP back in the days where it came out, using homebrew and so on. Yet i am never confident when facing something i haven't been messing around with before.
Do you have any idea where i can get some extraordinary help so i can be sure i am doing it right?

pixelkid said:
I was very into the PSP back in the days where it came out, using homebrew and so on. Yet i am never confident when facing something i haven't been messing around with before.
Do you have any idea where i can get some extraordinary help so i can be sure i am doing it right?
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I can help, and I'm sure there are more helpful people around here.
You have what's called a 'Perfected' SPL. Certain version of the Magic SPL (HBOOT) don't allow direct flashing of the recovery.img needed to run new ROMs.
Normally, you can boot into FASTBOOT (Back+Power) and then type:
Code:
fastboot boot recovery.img
But with a 'Perfected' SPL, you get the message:
Code:
remote:not allow
It used to be easy to root these phones, but HTC is getting smarter with their protection.
Some reading to get you started:
Difference between 32A and 32B (reference only)
[ulr]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526742[/url]
Magic SPL HBOOT Collection
I recommend the 1.33.2010 for the 32A Magic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529019
Amon_RA Recovery
You will need the 1.5.1H recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
Flashrec (Recovery Flasher Walkthrough)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594106
Essentially you need to:
- Flash the Amon_RA Recovery using the Recovery Flasher
- Boot into Recovery Mode (Home+Power) and flash the new SPL.
- Download your favorite ROM (MyHero is recommended for new users)
- Flash the new ROM using Amon_RA Recovery (Home+Power)
If Flashrec doesn't allow you to backup your existing recovery and flash a new one, then you need to use the steps outlined here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
It's pretty easy for me to break it down into 4 steps, but each step is made up of a lot of things that I have learned as I went.
Read all that you can, there is more than enough information on these forums.

myTouch 1.2 32A/32B SPL/Radio/Kernel confusion

I've got a myTouch 3G/1.2/3.5mm headphone jack phone. Y'know, the 32A/B hybrid with extended RAM deal. I had SPL 1.33.0013d and radio 2.22.28.25 (I don't remember the process I used to upgrade to those), using SenseLX and decided to go back to COS-DS because the camcorder didn't work. Well, I superwiped, flashed it, Gapps, and the COS kernel. When I booted into the ROM, for some reason, I couldn't install anything via Market ("could not install to current location"), Superuser was working but nothing could actually attain root access, and WiFi wouldn't connect. So I superwiped again, and attempted to flash GRP-CM7.1, but kept getting a Status 7 code in recovery. Stumped, I decided to flash a Sappimg and start over. Now this is where it screws up.
The phone boots into a Cupcake ROM, which has non-responsive touchscreen controls. The current fastboot info is this:
Sapphire unknown 32B Eng S-off H
hboot 1.33.2010 (Sapp31000)
Clpd-13
Radio 3.22.20.17
Now, here's the problem. I can flash CWM recovery, reboot into it, but I can't flash GRP7.1, STILL. So I'm stuck with the Cupcake ROM. And once I flash the new radio and SPL, recovery won't load anymore, and neither will the ROM itself. What the hell is wrong with it?

UndeadSquirrel said:
I've got a myTouch 3G/1.2/3.5mm headphone jack phone. Y'know, the 32A/B hybrid with extended RAM deal. I had SPL 1.33.0013d and radio 2.22.28.25 (I don't remember the process I used to upgrade to those), using SenseLX and decided to go back to COS-DS because the camcorder didn't work. Well, I superwiped, flashed it, Gapps, and the COS kernel. When I booted into the ROM, for some reason, I couldn't install anything via Market ("could not install to current location"), Superuser was working but nothing could actually attain root access, and WiFi wouldn't connect. So I superwiped again, and attempted to flash GRP-CM7.1, but kept getting a Status 7 code in recovery. Stumped, I decided to flash a Sappimg and start over. Now this is where it screws up.
The phone boots into a Cupcake ROM, which has non-responsive touchscreen controls. The current fastboot info is this:
Sapphire unknown 32B Eng S-off H
hboot 1.33.2010 (Sapp31000)
Clpd-13
Radio 3.22.20.17
Now, here's the problem. I can flash CWM recovery, reboot into it, but I can't flash GRP7.1, STILL. So I'm stuck with the Cupcake ROM. And once I flash the new radio and SPL, recovery won't load anymore, and neither will the ROM itself. What the hell is wrong with it?
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Make sure you flash a proper recovery. (I consider myself a noob. This post could contain a lot of incorrect info) you are currently using the 3.22 radio and are using ebi1 kernels and recoveries. Make sure you have the proper so and radio for your phone and a recovery that works with it.
In fastboot
Flash ebi0 recovery
Flash spl
Flash radio
Reboot
Now flash your rom
(Again I consider myself a noob and this info could easily be incorrect. Continue at your own risk)

The recovery is the correct one, for sure. As far as the radio and SPL, I don't know. I don't remember how I originally updated them, but these current ones I've been attempting to use don't seem to be working. I can't seem to find the official T-Mobile OTA update, either. I kinda figured if I can get that flashed, it would have the new radio and SPL flashed with it, then I can use Super1Click and root the phone again, then flash my custom recovery and ROM. But that OTA is nowhere to be found.
Ok, I finally got a ROM that flashed and booted (COS-DS again). Hopefully it doesn't have those weird issues again. Oh, wait. Jeez.... the phone thinks the headphones are plugged in. At least it seems the WiFi and sideloading/Market installs are working for now.
Attempting to flash GRP CM7.1 gives me a "assert failed: getprop("rro.bootloader") == "1.33.0013" .... "Status 7." Which is why I need that SPL.
Hmmmm... ok, I think I got somewhere here... I just found a SAPPIMG on my USB drive called "Sapphire_T-Mobile_US_2.10.531.4," which seems to be ROM my phone was shipped with. I flashed it in fastboot, booted up, connected to WiFi, and it automatically downloaded the T-Mobile 1.2 update to Android 2.2.1. I've installed it, looking good so far.
For now I've gotta run but later I will attempt to root it and install a custom recovery, nandroid backup, and attempt to flash a Gingerbread ROM and new kernel.
EDIT: I've uploaded it HERE.

UndeadSquirrel said:
Sapphire unknown 32B Eng S-off H
hboot 1.33.2010 (Sapp31000)
Clpd-13
Radio 3.22.20.17
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While I see you solved it some way or other:
Usually 3.22 on a stock sapphire image is 32a.. but it will work obviously on a 32b phone. (actually may be officially this way on some carriers with both 32a/32b models to make the one rom support both versions but I'm not sure of this.. Verifone users however seem to frequently end up in the 3.22 radio on a 32b device)
Regardless of 32a/32b however while you have a 3.22 radio the kernel (both recovery and the rom) must be ebi1 .. its likely you got the right recovery; but the rom didn't have the ebi1 image.
The particular state mentioned however is a 32b unit with s=off 1.33.2010 SPL thus if you wanted from here to go to a 2708+ kernel the easiest way is the original 2708+ dream/sapphire instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
Just remember you must use fastboot to install the 2.22 radio when a 3.22 radio is currently installed or you may well brick your phone.

Yeah, I was hoping you could clear up the confusion with the 32A/B but what stumped me was, I had the radio and SPL before. And I followed your thread to update them again, but I couldn't get into/flash recovery or ROM afterwards no matter what I did. So now, I'm running the 2.2.1 T-Mobile ROM, 32A .0013 SPL and 28.25 radio, got it rooted. So now I just need to flash a recovery, but I'm kind of hesitant to do so until I know for sure how to progress from this point. Any tips?
EDIT: Got it. I used ROM Manager to flash CWM recovery (the ION/myTouch one worked), and flash the GRP CM 7.1 port. Annoyingly enough, the camera STILL causes a reboot after taking a photo. Fffffuuuuuuuuuuu.......!!! Eh, whatever.
EDIT: Flashed ezTerry's ezBiff 2708 kernel, which even though it worked for me fine before, caused an infinite boot loop (it made it briefly to the desktop each time and rebooted, for some reason). The ebi0 kernel, which went through a couple reboots, seemed to fix the camera again, but no extra RAM.
EDIT: Wait. WiFi is broken. Settings simply state, "Error". USB connection won't even allow me to mount the SD card. My phone is a retard! Ebi0 is a no-go.
Yet another edit: ClockworkMod-flashed ezTerry's ezGBv1.5 kernel. Everything's working fine now. Though still no extra RAM. Hmmm... Terry? Did I get something mixed up here? It worked fine before...
Arrrgh, I am SO confused!
Hope this thread can provide some helpful info to anyone else who may screw up the way I did!

[Q] Magic 32a Recovery/Flash Issue

Hoping someone can help. I have a magic 32a. I was running cyanogen 6.0, or 6.1 I believe, and I thought it was time to change. In the mix of trying to install new ROM, I did an SD wipe and removed my backups....
I downloaded SDK tools and I have done everything I possibly can, so I'm looking for help.
SAPPHIRE PVT ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.76.2007 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-3.22.20.17
I had the old radio and SPL, but then I couldn't reboot into recovery. I FINALLY got the radio flashed, and it took my ability to enter recovery away( Amon Ra, don't remember what version).
Now I'm trying the new radio, but every time I try and flash the radio my phone freezes in the middle of the flash. The SPL flashed just fine, but now I can't even boot into recovery and even trying to boot it sticks on the mytouch screen.
My question is, do I have the wrong spl/radio combo, which one I might need, or any ideas on how to get my phone running again.
Thanks.

Alright I got the new radio to flash. Everytime I flash a recovery, it flashes no problem, but gets stuck when I try and boot into recovery....I don't get it.