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I've had it with Opera, the page sizes constantly change and end up so far zoomed out they are unreadable, there is no way to zoom back in, either by double tapping on screen or using the zoom wheel both do nothing.
IE works well for me. How can I make IE the default browser?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419066
worked on my Tilt
bugsykoosh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419066
worked on my Tilt
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Thanks, I'll try it. I searched in the Raphael forums, but not in Kaiser. We'll see if this works on my Fuze, but I'm skeptical that this will change the default browser in the TF3d Internet tab if this was developed for the Kaiser.
That is what I want to know, how to change the browser int eh TF3D tab, setting the default browser everywhere else seems to be stragiht forward in comparison (which is saying a lot). :>)
Here is a link to the original Posting that I downloaded this from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523661
From Opera
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
I will get screen shots and a review up ASAP!!! I just installed and am messing around with it. There is also a widgets app which comes pre-loaded with a twitter widget, geoquizz, bubbles (game), status widget (ping.fm?), and google translator. You can click to add more and are taken to Widgets.Opera.com. where there is a selection to choose from. Seems Cool.
The scrolling seems to be quicker and smoother. Very nice. From the original post it seems that Turbo is off by default so I am now going in to Opera:Config to turn it on and see if there is a difference in loading.
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June 12
I had been testing HSPL this week and havn't had a chance to play in Opera7 much anymore....... I just reinstalled on my newly flashed rom from udk..... So screenshots and such will be coming in the next few days. I'm very busy.
JUNE8
Overall experiance is good. Besides no zoombar. XDA loads faster.
I have experienced several freezes and crashes. It Is BETA though. So that is expected.
I have been able to get the zoombar working in some way. Not to zoom but I can use it to scroll down the page and through items. If intrested I can post the registry tweak for it.
There is a little animation noticed when rotating.
I am able to play video off of Youtube.com but not hulu.com
Screen rotation does not work at the moment. Using G-config as recommended below Works. Will see what registry edits were done using it.
I seems that in the original build Opera Config has more settings under adaptive zoom including one that says "zoom slider maximum" So this may be more tha a registry tweek. IDK
JUNE 7
It seems the zoombar is non-responsive. Could just be a registry tweak.... IDK though. Will try my best with waht little skill I have to look into it.
There is History when you start to type a URL
After a soft reset the Original Opera loads from the Browser Tab now.
Opera will not launch from Browser Tab after install and Bookmarks are not transfered. The original Opera Browser is still there and is not over writen though.
Just installed it and works great. Pages loads much faster and more smooth, turning the turbo mode didn't notice anything spectacular. Confirmed the ZOOM scroll bar does not work with the beta version. Hope its just a registry tweak or something.
Cheers,
Hi!
Hopefully HTC will release either a ROM upgrade or cab package that integrates opera 9.7 into TouchFlo. A cab package is maybe more likely at this beta stage.
Regards,
PK
Anybody manage to get the screen rotation working?
Screen roatation doesn't work as well...
Other than screen rotation, i am also having problem with suspending the device with opera 9.7 running.
I'm interested to see if someone can solve these issues too... other than that, it's faster and generally better.
cant read a page w/o to zoom in, but for the rest it is faster and sleeker
have tryed 9.7b1.
The page rendering is pretty fast,
but some pages are shown not correct.
to add rotation use G-Config
I, have tryed to enabling zooming with Advanced Config,
but the result was that the zoombar now scrolls thru the links.
Silly question guys... If I install the new opera, what will happen with the built in version? Will it be replaced or installed as a separate app?
jgal said:
Silly question guys... If I install the new opera, what will happen with the built in version? Will it be replaced or installed as a separate app?
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No the original build stays in tact.
Some new notes on first post. Help is needed to enable zoombar if anyone knows. I got the zoombar working to scroll the page in opera.
I have installed beta 9.7 but it became the default browser. I was not happy about it so I uninstalled it. now links from mail are opened in IE instead of the pre-installed Opera. Is it supposed to do that or is there a way to get Opera back as default?
Blizze said:
I have installed beta 9.7 but it became the default browser. I was not happy about it so I uninstalled it. now links from mail are opened in IE instead of the pre-installed Opera. Is it supposed to do that or is there a way to get Opera back as default?
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It installed as default for me as well. i don't know the specific registry edit but if you search the forums you can find it. Search for something like "setting Opera as default browser"
Sorry. It is beta so expect it to be buggy
could u please try the links below and tell us if the video works ?
it works with the PC just fine but with the mobile it allways gives flash player error
http://85.9.12.243/a3/watch3.php?year=2009&month=5&day=25&show=bizbazar
or
www.videonews.ro
better try the first 1 -and pick any date on the window, it should start the video
ahile said:
could u please try the links below and tell us if the video works ?
it works with the PC just fine but with the mobile it allways gives flash player error
http://85.9.12.243/a3/watch3.php?year=2009&month=5&day=25&show=bizbazar
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www.videonews.ro
better try the first 1 -and pick any date on the window, it should start the video
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Neither of them show the video sorry.... According to Opera No flash plugin is included with this Beta. So mebe later on it will but at the moment no...
From their site:
* Opera Turbo in Opera Mobile is still a preview-feature;
o Downloads don't work while Opera Turbo is enabled.
o Some settings (such as toggle on/off images) do not apply when Opera Turbo is enabled.
* On older WM 5.0 Devices with 480x800 resolution, switching between portrait and landscape may cause display errors. This is due to lack of support for this resolution in early versions of Microsoft's driver.
* Some input method editors are known not to work well with Opera because they do not comply with Microsoft's SIP and/or IME standard. When such an editor is detected by Opera, Opera will use a known (default) input method instead. An exception is EzInput v1.5, where the phone keypad and compact QUERTY, ABC mode doesn't work, but the rest of the modes work fine. We recommend upgrading to EzInput v2.0 to avoid this.
* Only support for FlashLite 3.x. No Flash plugin included.
guys is "Turbo" enabled by default? is there a way to turn it off? cant seem to find anything in the menu or settings?!?! am i missing something???
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guys is "Turbo" enabled by default? is there a way to turn it off? cant seem to find anything in the menu or settings?!?! am i missing something???
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found it
Zoombar
nice that you figured out how to scroll now with the zoombar. Can you please share your knowledge?
And does anybody knows how to get this zoombar working again?
After installation the zoombar is not working anymore at the 9.5 and the 9.7beta version.
The 9.5 version is still on the phone as it comes with the rom.
Does anybody knows hot to change the Manila"Internet" tab from 9.5 to 9.7 beta
Thanks for you help,
atoem
Flash works just fine with Opera 9.7b1, but check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770
aDEO
So fast....
download it here
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
Question: is it possibe to get the multi-touch pinch zoom enabled on this version?
Zooomer doesn't work, because all it does is blowing up a bitmap without scaling it to the new zoom-resolution.
First impression is that compared to the stock Opera browser, this one has worse framerate, ie. it's not smooth at all. Also because the pinch to zoom doesn't work it's pretty much useless now; I can't come up with any reason why to use this as of now.
For starters, it is the first WinMob browser that allows me to view my online paper (volkskrant.nl).
But you are right, if you don't need it you don't have to want it. It will not add too much to you current browser experience. But g..d... this version is fast
I used zoomer to add pinch to zoom function, and had no problems at all, it works perfectly for me, scaling fonts and all the rest.
Mine isn't going in landscape mode thogh.
Does it replace Opera 9.7 or is it a separate application?
toca79 said:
I used zoomer to add pinch to zoom function, and had no problems at all, it works perfectly for me, scaling fonts and all the rest.
Mine isn't going in landscape mode thogh.
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but the pinch & zoom is like old opera or like when you add an application that doesn't have p&n of stock and youve got a miniscreen to move around?
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Does it replace Opera 9.7 or is it a separate application?
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It installs as a seperate app. The standard Opera 9.7 is in the Windows folder, this one installs in the Program Files folder under \Opera mobile 10\
You will find links to both Opera's in the start folder. Word of warning though: it will become the standard browser, so when you push the 'open browser' button on the TouchFlo Sense browser tab, it will now open Opera mobile 10 beta.
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It should be possible to add this version to both the Whitelist for rotation (HKCU \ Software \ HTC \ HTCSENSOR \ GSENSOR \ ) and that of the Pinch settings (HKLM \ Software \ HTC \ TouchGL \ Pinch \ ). I tried fiddling with that a bit, but haven't figured out yet how to do this.
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but the pinch & zoom is like old opera or like when you add an application that doesn't have p&n of stock and youve got a miniscreen to move around?
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Miniscreen at the bottom of the page.
It' s a bit laggy and slow but it works
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Miniscreen at the bottom of the page.
It' s a bit laggy and slow but it works
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thats not a zoom, because it makes a zoom with the resolution standard, not resize of the fonts, so if you make P&Z in opera 10 in a web at 100%, you will not be able to read anything, and text will not be in columns.
I think I spotted a registry setting for pinch and zoom for opera (in something like HKCU\Software\Opera\), but no idea if its just specific to the htc supplied version. Unfortunately im at work so cant test until later. Anyone up for digging through to see if v10 has disabled that option?
I uninstalled Opera 10 and now my default browser is ie. How can I change it back to Opera 9.7?
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You will find links to both Opera's in the start folder. Word of warning though: it will become the standard browser, so when you push the 'open browser' button on the TouchFlo Sense browser tab, it will now open Opera mobile 10 beta.
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Not to worry, you can go back into Opera 9.7's settings and reset it as the default browser. Worked fine for me.
Ah nice, hadn't figured that out yet.
I just came from an i8910 (symbian) that had Opera Mobile 10 - to be honest I actually find 9.7 better from the point of view of the UI. I'll stick with what I have...
does this opera 10 beta work with applications on facebook ( that use flash ) ?
isangelous said:
I think I spotted a registry setting for pinch and zoom for opera (in something like HKCU\Software\Opera\), but no idea if its just specific to the htc supplied version. Unfortunately im at work so cant test until later. Anyone up for digging through to see if v10 has disabled that option?
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Do you know how to add Pinch to zoom to the new beta?
Thank you
Don
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Does it replace Opera 9.7 or is it a separate application?
it doesent replace mate is a separate apps
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does this opera 10 beta work with applications on facebook ( that use flash ) ?
Nope it doesent support Flash or anything is the same as old v9.7 but for me SkyFire is far more better than this crap Browser
I have a problem that´s kind of weird with Opera 10 beta 2. When the program is active in background and i try to start the camera, it fails. It say "Cannot load camera" or something like that. But when i shut down opera completely, I can start using the camera again. Someone else with the same problem?
Hope you understand my pretty bad english. Dumb Swede here! haha
Your english is fine, much better than just being able to be understood!
Sorry, can't help with your problem though, would be interested to see whether others are having the same problem though...
Does anybody know how to enable the multitouch and backbutton functionality in the new Opera Mobile 10 Beta?
I installed it but lost that functionality and that degrades alot of the browsing experience...
cheers
I do with this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584940
DrBytes said:
Does anybody know how to enable the multitouch and backbutton functionality in the new Opera Mobile 10 Beta?
I installed it but lost that functionality and that degrades alot of the browsing experience...
cheers
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Use registry editor to add in HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchGL\Pinch\WhiteList Key Opera10
in HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchGL\Pinch\WhiteList\Opera10 add REG_SZ, Name: ProcName Value Opera10-armv4i.exe.
soft reset.
Yes, but it's not true multitouch!
I don't think that there is any known method for enabling true multitouch on opera10
The "pinch to zoom" functionality in Opera 9.7 is actually part of the application, rather than a setting that can be controlled externally. It simply does not exist in v10 (I imagine), and therefore can't be switched on. Using the system style zooming is the only option for this.
Besides, as it was pointed out to me previously, Opera 10 doesn't actually have a smooth zoom. It's just zoomed or not zoomed.
Opera 10 are unstable on mi hd2, it freeze often and i need to restart. Someone now why?
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Opera 10 are unstable on mi hd2, it freeze often and i need to restart. Someone now why?
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Probably because it's a Beta. I've not heard of this problem before though. It looks really nice. I can't wait till they do a proper release of it.
I fully expect Opera to release a new version in the near future with full pinch zoom supported and the advantages V10 offers. Until then I will just continue to use the supplied version, despite the experience being considerably less satisfying and user-friendly than Safari on even my old 2.5 year old iPhone 2G.
Zoomer
Try zoomer for pitch zoom in all applications..
In order to get pinch to zoom to function in Opera 10, use the app of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
Works fine for me! Probably it will also be possible to get Opera to rotate to landscape with this app.
Update: rotation works fine, pinch%zoom works though a bit buggy.
Update 2: using P to Z gives you an extra "window" in thelower middle of the screen that only disappears when you reach normal zooming levels again. A bit annoying!
That's no pinch to zoom, that's blowing up a screen image without rescaling. But anyway, beta 2 is out and nothing is improved in this respect.
How about what they did with Igo8?
Igo8 doesn't come with pinch to zoom but someone has managed to get true pinch to zoom to work in it using a 3rd party .exe app.
is it possible to do the same thing with opera 10?
Opera 10 has multiple zoom levels, in the settings you can choose from 100 to 300%, thats not the problem. The problem is a) that theres no zoom slider in the ui that allows to zoom instantly and b) opera 10 does not regocnize multitouch gestures. I don't know about windows mobile, but I'm pretty sure that that would work on wm: With windows you can send commands to any windows such as scrool down, zoom etc. If the programmer did his job well, the application then does something with that commands. If that is possible with wm, I'm sure that opera did implement it. So the only thing that is required is to writte an app that a) detect that opera is active and that a multitouch gesture has been done and b) send the equivalent zoom command to opera. This is the same way HTC has implemented the zoom slider on the diamond2 and pro2. If somebody would try it, it isn't that hard, I'll do it if i have more time
Not only opera 10 on WM doesnt have any real pinch to zoom option it also doesnt have that option on Opera mini on iphone either! and i have no idea why is that? but my question is! is it possible that someone use some 9.7 version files on 10? to make it work??
kamycrs said:
Not only opera 10 on WM doesnt have any real pinch to zoom option it also doesnt have that option on Opera mini on iphone either! and i have no idea why is that? but my question is! is it possible that someone use some 9.7 version files on 10? to make it work??
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Because you still don't understand how Opera Mini works.
Plugin
Opera 10 has Plugin Support on Windows Mobile Phones. So the only way to get that original zoom feeling back is writing a plugin that remodifies Opera.
I still don't understand why they removed that zooming feature from the new Browser version.
Ok, it has that special Textbox scaling which fits a text right into the screen width with a simple double click, but sometimes, this doesnt work properly and multitouch zooming would be a solution.
I hope for a relaunch in the next Opera version.
Hey guys, I love Opera 10, espacailly with flash support, but with not multi touch it really does hold it back.
For instance, you try to watch a youtube video, you have to tap to zoom in, which will take you way to close, then you have to try to center the video on the screen that is way to zoomed in.
After using Opera 10 with the visual tabs and everything, its really hard to go back to 9. Is there any way to add multitouch to opera 10 without Zoomer?
Opera Mobile 10 has only one level of zoom, so the multitouch is not very usefull ...
Tydi said:
Opera Mobile 10 has only one level of zoom, so the multitouch is not very usefull ...
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Any way to get around that?
Nope. Opera apparently decided we didn't need more and are holding their position.
What about Skyfire or other browsers?
HD2 multitouch and opera 10
After a first experience with the original rom ( I did not note wich opera version was installed ) I had the very impressive experience of the multitouch and " two fingers Zoom " ; now , after a Rom update , I get a lot of interesting improvement but the only negative point is that the Opera 10 installed do not let me perform such type of zoom ; I tried with zoomer , but it is not absolutely the same.
Could I install another version of OPERA ( pls indicate wich one ) and , if it is possible , could this be a problem/conflict with the opera 10 installed ? Can I un-install the opera 10 without loosing the rest of the positive improvements of the new Rom
Thanks for your very appreciated answers
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Hey guys, I love Opera 10, espacailly with flash support, but with not multi touch it really does hold it back.
For instance, you try to watch a youtube video, you have to tap to zoom in, which will take you way to close, then you have to try to center the video on the screen that is way to zoomed in.
After using Opera 10 with the visual tabs and everything, its really hard to go back to 9. Is there any way to add multitouch to opera 10 without Zoomer?
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You're not going to get pinch-to-zoom in Opera 10, as people above have already said. However, I know you were only giving an example, but with YouTube videos you can click the fullscreen icon (in the bottom right of the video player) and then you don't need zoom.
You can enable pinch to zoom on pretty much any app, including Opera 10 using the BsB Tweaks. I use it and it works pretty darn good
Roricken said:
You can enable pinch to zoom on pretty much any any, including Opera 10 using the BsB Tweaks. I use it and it works pretty darn good
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you are right! i forgot about that but it works great thanks dude
How is that even vaguely similar to pinch-to-zoom in Opera 9.7???
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How is that even vaguely similar to pinch-to-zoom in Opera 9.7???
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It may not be similar, but at least you can pinch your fingers together to zoom in and out and beats the zoomer tab IMO.
wich is the best solution ?
could you tell me if somebody experience the re-installation of OPERA 9.7 on these ROMs ??
do you see any conflict risks or other issues ?
could you post the link to the B&B application ?
thanks again !!!
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It may not be similar, but at least you can pinch your fingers together to zoom in and out and beats the zoomer tab IMO.
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Is it just me or is it pinch to zoom pretty crappy. First, when you zoom, the image is very blurry, especially the text. Second, once you zoom in, you can't move unless you're using that zoom nav pop-up. Do you have the same experience?
If that's the case, it's not worth enabling at all.
Also, how are you guys able to get flash on Opera 10? I go to YouTube and can't watch any videos.
You have to go to settings>advanced>turn plug-ins on
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You have to go to settings>advanced>turn plug-ins on
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I've done this yet I still cant view youtube vids. hows this then....?
original OPERA 9.7 cab
does anybody can upload the original opera version , able to pinch to zoom function ?
thanks