small battery inside the trackball area - G1 Android Development

I was opening my bricked G1 to solder the jtag and manually solder wires for the USB serial cable, then I notice there is an small battery inside the trackball area. I can assume sometime will be used for the SD Card interface somehow, but I want to be sure someone here is familiar with that… I did not search to much inside it, because first I want to unbrick mi phone, but later today I will see if I can figured out what where is connected..….
did somebody knows about it??

Pretty sure that is just the battery for the clock etc.

Do you think somehow this battery it’s used for memory retention (Volatile), in somehow if we remove battery will set up to default some information that possibly will help to unbrick the phone?? I’m just thinking if this battery is supplying voltage to a memory that retains information about SPL, Radio etc that can be easily reset.. I know the main MCU and Memory are flash but I’m just guessing.. thanks

Well,the Wii has a clock battery and when its removed,the Wii resets most settings....you could try it,but its most likely just for the clock.

otto888 said:
Well,the Wii has a clock battery and when its removed,the Wii resets most settings....you could try it,but its most likely just for the clock.
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Interesting thought.... the possibility exists that bootmode3 flag is stored in volatile memory?
Crazy idea:
We know that the battery is not on the mainboard. Try disconnecting it overnight (along with the main battery of course), and booting with camera held (force fastboot mode).
Note: I *really* doubt that this will work....

Nah its just for the clock. Like inside a pc keeps the bios info, date, and time.

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Nah its just for the clock. Like inside a pc keeps the bios info, date, and time.
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Right, though as you say, for a PC, BIOS INFO. And yes, the boot mode 3 flag would be equivalent to that bios info.

So what ended up happening with this? Did it work or not so much?

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Automatic bluetooth on when on external power

Wouldnt it be great if bluetooth turned on automattically when I put the phone in the car holder(with charge function), and when i pull it out bluetooth turns off.
I Know that Phone alarm can do the trick but i don't need all the extra things that come with phone alarm, it only messes things up.
Is there a simple cab file around who enables this function?
Or if there isnt, could someone make such a cab file? I know a lot of guys who would love to have this working.
I would like it!
i am using phonealarm which also supports this function. Find it at www.pocketmax.net
I know i used it also but it is overkill if i only want to use it for the bluetooth function.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3367344
I installed it, reset my phone but it does not work.
Is this one especially for the hd2?
Oh boy would I like this! It's such an simple and usefull thing, and yet there still is no cab for it.
I'm not a developer, but it seems easy: power on = BT on, power off = BT off. It should be a matter of finding the right trigger for power on, and then combine it with the bluetooth-toggle cab found elsewhere. (See attached)
Who can help!
ps: it's for a HD2, so post mentioned above (bluepower) doesn't work indeed. Probably because of the other BT protocol used.
ps2: the attached Touch X Bluetooth Toggle.cab DOES work on HD2, but manually. If this cab can be changed to toggle BT on power-status in stead of manual input we'd have what we want.
ps3: phonealarm does know how to do the trick, but it's not flawless, and surely overkill. BUT.... the right trigger (powerstatus-on, powerstatus-off) should be in it somewhere... who can find it, and convert the attached BT toggle with it to the wanted function?
would be a nice one to have indeed, hope someone can help!
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I Know that Phone alarm can do the trick
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It can? How
Really searching for this, would love it...
Hope there wil be one soon
Yeah, as per the thread I started on a similar subject, I want to do this stuff but like others, Phonealarm is a little bit OTT for what I need, and g-profile just simply doesn't seem to work for some reason.
I set up a bunch of profiles but when you change (either manual or auto) the stuff you set up for the profiles in question just doesn't seem to happen. Hoping I'm just doing something wrong!
teake said:
Oh boy would I like this! It's such an simple and usefull thing, and yet there still is no cab for it.
I'm not a developer, but it seems easy: power on = BT on, power off = BT off.
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Sorry, but the logic is flawed. Some times the user may have BT on when not charging, then start charging. It would be bad to disconnect bt when he or she did not want to charge any more.
I'd do it like this: power on, save bt status, turn on bt regardless of previous state. power off, turn bt to same state as saved. You could possibly ask the user if he or she wanted to disconnect.
That would be an improved functionality indeed. But not needed for me (yet). I only use Bluetooth for connecting to my carkit. The rest of the day it's turned off. So for me power_on=BT_on and power_off=BT_off would be enough.
Your added function makes it even nicer though....
Nobody who can help us?
Bump,
wow this topic goes down fast.
hope someone will pick this up, it's a really good idea
and so simple.... it seems.
I really would like to have it too. I even provided the raw material with the working other programs, now all we need is a Winmo magician who can extract the needed elements, and brew it into a working cab...
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It can? How
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On the profiles tab hit options an use the top function(automatically change) to ad the toggle on power state.
Ok, one last try.
Isn't there anyone who can help us.
I do use phonealarm right now but i think it drains my battery fast.
How about this guys?
http://www.kixass.net/bluepower/
Havent used it myself, and it is not clear if this is touchscreen compatible..

Dead backlight?

So I'm wondering if the backlight might be dead on my TF101. I used my tablet over the weekend fine, but I turned it on this AM and can't see anything. Depending on the angle I just just make out the really white icons or sections of the screen. It looks like I don't have USB debugging enabled because I can't see it in adb devices. I can see it as an MTP device and browse the internal and SD storage.
I'm looking for suggestions to try to max out the brightness or test this device to see if it truly is the backlight or another issue.
ok, I've got adb working so I can communicate with the tablet, any suggestions on hardware diagnostics or how to increase the brightness level?
go here and follow the instructions, its going to allow you to control your android device from your computer thru adb. basically its going to show your tablet screen on the pc, that way you try to see if turning up the brightness works
tech_p said:
go here and follow the instructions, its going to allow you to control your android device from your computer thru adb. basically its going to show your tablet screen on the pc, that way you try to see if turning up the brightness works
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I don't see a link in your post
damn my bad here it is http://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/
Holy crap Asus support is worthless, I sent in my request and they suggested booting into recovery and wiping data... This was after waiting 2.5 days for a response. I just want to get in contact with hardware support and find out what it would cost me to send it in...
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Holy crap Asus support is worthless, I sent in my request and they suggested booting into recovery and wiping data... This was after waiting 2.5 days for a response. I just want to get in contact with hardware support and find out what it would cost me to send it in...
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Were you able to get a cost estimate or any other progress? Thanks.

[Q] Battery on 100% immediately

I'm on stock ICS, not rooted.
After using phone for a short time, and put it on charger my battery indicator get to 100% immediatly (when i plug it of after few seconds battery drop to percent before that). I noticed that when phone is little hot this will going to happen for sure. Then i need a time to cool it off and after that phone is showing normal charging. But sometimes it needs more time.
When that stuff happen my computer also don't recognize phone, just get 100% charge.
Just to add that phone is actualy charging when jump to 100%....
Also i had a similair problem on rrooted GB - Thiaz ROM
Try battery calibration app from Google Play, if it doesnt work then its hardware sensors or whatnot that doesnt work right probably.
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Try battery calibration app from Google Play, if it doesnt work then its hardware sensors or whatnot that doesnt work right probably.
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I tried to calibrate, problem stays...
ratluci said:
I tried to calibrate, problem stays...
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Try going in hidden menu port settings and hit CP reset then reboot. I had same problem and that helped me but The problem showed up from messing with chaning port settings so Im not sure if it will help
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Try going in hidden menu port settings and hit CP reset then reboot. I had same problem and that helped me but The problem showed up from messing with chaning port settings so Im not sure if it will help
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How to access that hidden menu?
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How to access that hidden menu?
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If you are using P920 and if your rom isnt rogers based Im not really sure sorry but try to dial this number 3485hashtag*920hashtag. I could find Hashtag on my keyboard and also after typing 345 will / maybe appear. If yes you need to delete it. not the whole nubmer only the /

[Q] Turn device on by plugging the charger

I have several Android devices and I'd like to customize them.
Normal reaction of there devices when they're off and the charger is plugged is showing battery indicator.
How to replace this reaction by any other reaction? The simplest idea is automated booting operating system.
All i know is,there is no mod or app for this. Of curse when your phone is off.
GreekDragon said:
All i know is,there is no mod or app for this. Of curse when your phone is off.
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But a screen with battery indicator is shown.
This is on framework.res.apk. in few words is a dangerous part of a system.
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This is on framework.res.apk. in few words is a dangerous part of a system.
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I'd like to backup the entire flash memory of Android device, change anything I want to change and restore from backup if something goes wrong.
Too bad it's impossible
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I'd like to backup the entire flash memory of Android device, change anything I want to change and restore from backup if something goes wrong.
Too bad it's impossible
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I dont know the battery indicator when the phone charging but is off. I know how to change when your phone is on.. there is a modules for this. Also the uot kitchen
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I dont know the battery indicator when the phone charging but is off. I know how to change when your phone is on.. there is a modules for this. Also the uot kitchen
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At least LG P700 has got this indicator.
Even Nokia X3-02 has such indicator so the same question would ideally apply to Nokia as well.
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At least LG P700 has got this indicator.
Even Nokia X3-02 has such indicator so the same question would ideally apply to Nokia as well.
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Ι mean to change it of curse(when phone is off). Every phone had this indicator.
If some app "charging indicator" is loaded it must be possible to replace it by any other app.
I don't know about every device but I have at least two examples at home.
What about this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=auto.boot

Atoto S8 General Discussion

Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.
Current lineup:
S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
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Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.
A6 Help Thread​
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Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.
As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.
Items of note that I have found:
1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know
2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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Thank you very much for posting this so mine can be installed correctly! I am surprised Support didn't tell me this since I have been talking to them about something else, but maybe they have different people for different issues. UPS finally got around (with their huge backlog of full trucks just sitting for days) to delivering my S8 Pro today, so I'm excited!
Out of curiosity, why did you choose to use the same back-up camera instead of get the new 720p HD one that uses the S8's capabilities for virtual bird's-eye view? I went with that camera because I used real bird's-eye view on a family member's car last fall when I borrowed it and it was helpful. Plus, of course, the coolness factor.
I hope to get the S8 Pro installed soon, but definitely do post anything else good or bad you find about yours!
I have been playing with mine a LOT the past couple of nights on the couch with it hooked up to the wall power supply. Mainly messing with FCC Launcher.
The birds eye view cameras are really nice. My wife's new Explorer has it and she loves it. I prefer turning around to backup myself so I only use my camera when hooking up to a trailer. I have it hooked to a button so it doesn't even come on when going into reverse. It's also a recessed camera that is drilled through the license place and sits flush so I don't hit it when climbing in the bed. So the short answer is that at least for now, it's not a big thing for me on my truck. I would really like to hear your experience with it though.
One thing I noticed was that the harness connector latch isn't quite right on my S8 to the point the latch on the harness itself doesn't really click. I shaved a little of the harness latch and it helps some but the problem is on the units connector and would be hard to get at. This may be only on my unit and isn't a big deal but just wanting to mention anything and everything I am finding no matter how nitpicky and irrelevant to usage it may be
On the factory reset confirmation there is spelling problem (encoding) with "can't"
I also confirmed with Atoto Support that you can't set an SD card as internal storage.
The built-in file manager doesn't appear to have 'share' options so in order to send a screenshot in gmail I needed to install a 3rd party one.
I definitely don't want to discount all the positive aspects of the S8. Still very happy with the purchase/upgrade. Even after messing with it a lot the performance is still very good. Haven't noticed any lagging or concerns there.
Glad to hear yours arrived! Please don't hesitate to add any of your findings here also. Do you use the rca low level outs then? I assume yours is from the first batch also but maybe not.
kramttocs said:
I have been playing with mine a LOT the past couple of nights on the couch with it hooked up to the wall power supply. Mainly messing with FCC Launcher.
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I had to look up that launcher. It looks nice, though I still like the look of Agama better. If you have tried Agama, what made you choose FCC over it?
The birds eye view cameras are really nice. My wife's new Explorer has it and she loves it. I prefer turning around to backup myself so I only use my camera when hooking up to a trailer. I have it hooked to a button so it doesn't even come on when going into reverse. It's also a recessed camera that is drilled through the license place and sits flush so I don't hit it when climbing in the bed. So the short answer is that at least for now, it's not a big thing for me on my truck. I would really like to hear your experience with it though.
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Yeah, my SUV is a 2005, so doesn't have a back-up camera, just back-up sensors that ding and have warning lights in the rear, so I'm not used to using a back-up camera and look behind as well as use my mirrors, but when I had to borrow my family member's car when mine was in the shop (brake lines rusted out and almost made me T-bone another car, but I was able to swerve around him with probably a few inches to go), using the camera when backing out in a parking garage was very helpful, especially to see the railings of the walkway behind me diagonally. So, I figured I should get it, especially since the bird's-eye view is what helped the most in that situation.
One thing I noticed was that the harness connector latch isn't quite right on my S8 to the point the latch on the harness itself doesn't really click. I shaved a little of the harness latch and it helps some but the problem is on the units connector and would be hard to get at. This may be only on my unit and isn't a big deal but just wanting to mention anything and everything I am finding no matter how nitpicky and irrelevant to usage it may be
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I definitely appreciate you mentioning everything! I already put a sticky note on the S8 box to remind myself about the audio plug switcharoo. Do you think your harness has the potential to fall off? Or is it secure enough that you trust it will stay?
On the factory reset confirmation there is spelling problem (encoding) with "can't"
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I hate bad grammar, but at least it is in a place I won't see it often.
I also confirmed with Atoto Support that you can't set an SD card as internal storage.
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You mean you can't save files and apps on it? It is only for updates, to transfer photos to the Gallery, and if you use it for music files?
BTW, have you tried the Gallery feature? I take it that it is like a screensaver slideshow type of thing?
The built-in file manager doesn't appear to have 'share' options so in order to send a screenshot in gmail I needed to install a 3rd party one.
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That's weird for sure. I hope they fix that in the future.
I definitely don't want to discount all the positive aspects of the S8. Still very happy with the purchase/upgrade. Even after messing with it a lot the performance is still very good. Haven't noticed any lagging or concerns there.
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That's great that there isn't any lag etc., which is one of the reasons I decided to upgrade to the S8 instead of installing the A6 I'd had for months.
Glad to hear yours arrived! Please don't hesitate to add any of your findings here also. Do you use the rca low level outs then? I assume yours is from the first batch also but maybe not.
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Seeing as mine was supposed to have been delivered on the 5th (it was out for delivery, but they didn't finish their route that day or the next business day), I'm sure it is also from the first batch. I have no idea about the "rca low level outs", sorry! I never got the A6 installed, so my car still has the old OEM factory unit in it (which has been very frustrating).
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I had to look up that launcher. It looks nice, though I still like the look of Agama better. If you have tried Agama, what made you choose FCC over it?
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I have Agama installed also and like it. No real complaints other than I wasn't able to customize it as much as I liked. It has a great UI for safe usage while driving though.
I like that FCC has some really good auto-centric widgets and can be tailored to one's own taste. It reminds me a lot like if Nova Launcher had an auto version. It does have some major pitfalls right now but I am hoping they will be addressed. I believe they are because it's designed for a different type/brand/tech of headunit and isn't entirely generic. It's because of these issues that I haven't uninstalled Agama yet
Here is what I have right now. Simple but does what I need. The background is a live visualizer.
Lace'n'Pearls said:
I definitely appreciate you mentioning everything! I already put a sticky note on the S8 box to remind myself about the audio plug switcharoo. Do you think your harness has the potential to fall off? Or is it secure enough that you trust it will stay?
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I really think it's secure enough. I am not worried about it although I would prefer to have that satisfying click.
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You mean you can't save files and apps on it? It is only for updates, to transfer photos to the Gallery, and if you use it for music files?
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This actually isn't as big of a concern as I first thought. You can save files on it but not apps. Initially Spotify wasn't picking it up and I have some large playlists that I download. After a couple reboots though it's now seeing it as the default offline location so all good there. As long as it's available for apps to use (and it looks like it is now) then I am fine with it not being internal as I suspect people won't load up their HU internal storage with apps as much as they do on their phones.
I hadn't tried the Gallery but just did. From the app drawer it looks like a normal photo viewer/slideshow app. From the pulldown menu though I must not have mine configured correctly as when I click that icon it shows a stock photo with a clock/date widget on it. It never seems to change the photo though.
Glad to hear the accident was avoided! I can imagine that got the heart beating.
If you mess with your HU a lot, might be worth looking into the ATOTO AC-10V1. It's not really a super fun purchase but sure beats sitting in a hot car playing with the launcher and getting everything setup. One could also make their own if they wanted.
How soon do you think you'll install your S8? Wanting to hear your experience. :fingers-crossed:
The best thing you can do, and it's now possible on the S8 is to use KLWP to completely design your own interface. It wasn't possible on the A6 as it killed the live wallpaper background process on fast boot/resume. Obviously there is a learning curve, but it's a real treat once you get going.
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The best thing you can do, and it's now possible on the S8 is to use KLWP to completely design your own interface. It wasn't possible on the A6 as it killed the live wallpaper background process on fast boot/resume. Obviously there is a learning curve, but it's a real treat once you get going.
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Funny you mention that and I am glad you did. I found a reddit post talking about that so installed it last night. Haven't played around with it yet though as it did look like it was a bit of a commitment. Have a screenshot of yours? I haven't searched yet but is there a community on xda for it?
I think there's a Reddit. I had to sack it off and use kwgt instead on my A6, that's the widget only version. But the limit is your imagination with KLWP. You'd need to have your unit on the bench or use an emulator I guess as it'll take a while.
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I have Agama installed also and like it. No real complaints other than I wasn't able to customize it as much as I liked. It has a great UI for safe usage while driving though.
I like that FCC has some really good auto-centric widgets and can be tailored to one's own taste. It reminds me a lot like if Nova Launcher had an auto version. It does have some major pitfalls right now but I am hoping they will be addressed. I believe they are because it's designed for a different type/brand/tech of headunit and isn't entirely generic. It's because of these issues that I haven't uninstalled Agama yet
Here is what I have right now. Simple but does what I need. The background is a live visualizer.
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I like the live visualizer background! That's a cool feature. I'm going to have to check that app out.
I really think it's secure enough. I am not worried about it although I would prefer to have that satisfying click.
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Gotcha.
This actually isn't as big of a concern as I first thought. You can save files on it but not apps. Initially Spotify wasn't picking it up and I have some large playlists that I download. After a couple reboots though it's now seeing it as the default offline location so all good there. As long as it's available for apps to use (and it looks like it is now) then I am fine with it not being internal as I suspect people won't load up their HU internal storage with apps as much as they do on their phones.
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Glad it is working now for ya! Yeah, I don't think I'll be putting too many apps on it, but if I had files to play from the SD card, that would be helpful.
I hadn't tried the Gallery but just did. From the app drawer it looks like a normal photo viewer/slideshow app. From the pulldown menu though I must not have mine configured correctly as when I click that icon it shows a stock photo with a clock/date widget on it. It never seems to change the photo though.
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Hmm, you'd think it would work the same from both locations! I don't know if I'd ever use it as a slideshow or screensaver, but I figure I'll put some of my photos (I'm a photographer) on it just in case.
Glad to hear the accident was avoided! I can imagine that got the heart beating.
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It certainly did, especially when a few hundred feet later all the dashboard lights turned on and the car was dinging at me, so I pulled into the parking lot that was there and smoke started coming out! Thankfully, I was just diagonally across the street from the mechanic I go to, so I didn't need a tow. It was a very rainy day and I'd had to drive through a flooded street about a half-hour before it, and had just pulled out of the gas station after filling up to ready for the next day's hour drive to a concert when it happened. Glad I could borrow a car and still get to the concert, but my car was in the shop for two weeks because he was slammed and no longer had another guy working for him, and GM was on strike so I think the parts took longer to get, too.
If you mess with your HU a lot, might be worth looking into the ATOTO AC-10V1. It's not really a super fun purchase but sure beats sitting in a hot car playing with the launcher and getting everything setup. One could also make their own if they wanted.
How soon do you think you'll install your S8? Wanting to hear your experience. :fingers-crossed:
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I have air conditioning in my car, plus it isn't hot here yet (64° right now), which actually is annoying because I sprayed UV protectant on some metallic car trim a few days ago and it is still tacky, unlike last July/August/September when it was good to be installed in two days. I did the front doors and around the sunroof with it last year, but didn't get to finish before the weather was too cold, so now I will do the back doors (on a warm, sunny day) and then we'll see what else.
Today, I got an app't for the S8 install on Thursday, so I'm excited!! I'm sure I could do the wiring myself, but I'm too scared of breaking my car trying to open it up and put it back together, so I'll let the pro do it (he's got so many trophies you'd think the front of the shop was a trophy store).
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Super_paulie said:
The best thing you can do, and it's now possible on the S8 is to use KLWP to completely design your own interface. It wasn't possible on the A6 as it killed the live wallpaper background process on fast boot/resume. Obviously there is a learning curve, but it's a real treat once you get going.
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Thanks, I'll have to try all three launchers!
Hello, fellow ATOTO users. I am testing the S8 Ultra and, as others have mentioned, it is noticeably peppier than the A6. I'm wondering if others have noticed a couple of annoying things I've come across. I like being able to mark radio stations as favorites - even to the point of giving their buttons custom names. On the A6, I'd hit the radio buttons and I'd be taken to my favorites. On the S8, just the generic radio screen. Also on the A6, I'd turn the car on and the unit would open to the home screen and play music or radio, whichever I was running when I shut it off. On the S8, if I was listening to the radio, it goes to the radio screen (but just the generic one, remember..) or, if listening to the music player, it goes to that screen. I spent a lot of time getting my home screen set up and would really prefer to see that when I turn the unit on. I know, picky. Have others had this experience?
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Hello, fellow ATOTO users. I am testing the S8 Ultra and, as others have mentioned, it is noticeably peppier than the A6. I'm wondering if others have noticed a couple of annoying things I've come across. I like being able to mark radio stations as favorites - even to the point of giving their buttons custom names. On the A6, I'd hit the radio buttons and I'd be taken to my favorites. On the S8, just the generic radio screen. Also on the A6, I'd turn the car on and the unit would open to the home screen and play music or radio, whichever I was running when I shut it off. On the S8, if I was listening to the radio, it goes to the radio screen (but just the generic one, remember..) or, if listening to the music player, it goes to that screen. I spent a lot of time getting my home screen set up and would really prefer to see that when I turn the unit on. I know, picky. Have others had this experience?
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yep, experienced the exact same thing and reported to Atoto. The radio opening not on the favourites is particularly annoying, makes the favourites kinda pointless. I have taken to just assigning all stations on the "opening" radio screen to stations that are basically my favourites. Certainly seems an oversight on Atotos behalf as it worked ok on the A6.
The radio widget, although better than on the A6 as it doesnt just scan now, it jumps to stations. Again but not favourites, just all channels saved. Also it doesnt show the labels, just the frequency which seems like something easy to do so why miss it off?
Its a way better unit than the A6 though, even though it still has a few problems. I mean the problems seem like childs play to fix so not sure why this wasnt tested out prior.
Agree on the radio. The favorites behavior is pretty unpolished. I would also like to see the 'Delete all' button for the favorites as nested inside settings although not sure what to replace it with necessarily. How often are people going to really want to delete all of their presents?
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Agree on the radio. The favorites behavior is pretty unpolished. I would also like to see the 'Delete all' button for the favorites as nested inside settings although not sure what to replace it with necessarily. How often are people going to really want to delete all of their presents?
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You should never have a delete all button like that not nested or behind a menu, it's frankly a dangerous design.
It's weird, it's like the testing by the developers was flawed, the favourites thing is pretty obvious from the second time you use it and then you'd fix it, surely.
I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher. I still receive calls through it connected to bluetooth to my cell, but I can't find the app to make calls out.
With the radio, I have the same back up cam that everyone gets installed and it worked great the first day that I installed it. I put the car in reverse and 3 seconds later I have video. My car sat for 2 days and then when I drove it again, the reverse cam video shows up, but it says no signal and the screen is black. So I know at least the trigger wire works, and it has to be a short in the video cable itself. But every now and then, I get video on the screen.
I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.
Google Maps works great, I downloaded over 600MB of offline maps. I don't have a hotspot except when I use my phone, so it is completely shut off from wifi. I can get into some pretty deep woods with it. But sometimes the app gets stuck and you get a white screen and the GPS can't find you. So you have to force stop Google Maps and reload it and hope that the GPS finds you. I'll post up more of my experiences with it as time goes on. But I have to say, this is my 4th Android car stereo and it's really great so far.
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I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.
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I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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HI again. I was reading the manual again last night and I thought about the EQ and listener settings. Does the wires being reversed affect those settings, like if I set it to sound best for the front seat, will it sound best for the back seat instead? Or is it basically just the same as the labels on the back of the unit being switched, but the unit doesn't know?
Also, for the Gallery to work via the pull-down, check out the manual on how to load the photos onto the system and then reboot it. Interesting for it to work like that!
A note I want to make is that this unit has four USB ports coming from the back, and unfortunately I didn't realize that until it was too late to order a second dual-USB extension square mount (I had gotten one dual and one single for the A6) before my install. I will have to use the single one for my side of the car (the QC 3.0 one) and the dual for the passenger side. I wish I could have had a dual for my side, too, but I probably won't need it anyway. (I'm not planning on opening up the dash again just for an extra USB port whether I get a dual for my side or a second single for a different spot in the car. And I'm definitely not going to have messy wires hanging out, hence the square mounts.)
Does anyone here use the Bluetooth tethering app that the manual recommends? You put it on both the phone and the head unit, unlike the other app I use when tethering my iPad (when the power or cable Internet goes out) which goes only on the phone.
Also, do you think it is possible for Atoto to change the unit to allow Tasker to never be killed during sleep (for fast boot), or is that an Android limitation? I would think that it wouldn't take too much battery power, but really I don't know. I just think it would be handy so we can set up tasks to automatically open apps or change settings etc. upon fast boot.
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Also, do you think it is possible for Atoto to change the unit to allow Tasker to never be killed during sleep (for fast boot), or is that an Android limitation? I would think that it wouldn't take too much battery power, but really I don't know. I just think it would be handy so we can set up tasks to automatically open apps or change settings etc. upon fast boot.
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i think my S8 Ultra doesnt kill tasker? i know it doesnt kill Live Wallpapers like my A6 used to. I can test today and report back.
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Strizay said:
I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher.
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I use Nova Launcher, its very customisable, you should give that a go.
Something else I noticed. on the back of the S8 standard is a split Y USB extension cable. They're labeled, but I can't remember what they say right now. But I have the one port going straight to my dash cam, and I have another USB Y splitter on the other. From that splitter I have 2 type C charging cables so that I can charge 2 cells at the same time. The charging works great, but the file explorer app does not recognize them as USB devices. When I connected mine for the first time, it asked if I wanted to connect it for dev use and I hit no. then I switch it to data transfer and an error comes up on my phone and the stereo does not recognize them as external storage.
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I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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Thanks for the help, but none of the autostart apps worked. I dragged down the top bar and hit restart and it still load the radio. I guess I'll have to load it manually every time I get in, kind of a bother, but it's not really a big deal.
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I use Nova Launcher, its very customisable, you should give that a go.
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I just tested Nova out and it looks and works like Google Now Launcher, and it does the same thing, it doesn't recognize the phone as an app. I can't create a shortcut icon for the phone because I can't find it any where. And whenever I turn the stereo off then on, The search app loads automatically. No matter what, if I drag down the top bar and hit reboot or if I just turn the unit off, the search box still loads and I have to close it to get to the home screen. I uninstalled Nova and I'm back to the stock launcher again. The only real problem I have with the stock launcher is that you can't resize the icons, other than that it's fine.
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i think my S8 Ultra doesnt kill tasker? i know it doesnt kill Live Wallpapers like my A6 used to. I can test today and report back.
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Well that's cool! I'm looking forward to mine getting installed tomorrow (if everything goes well). I installed the red trim on my back doors this afternoon, too, since it was warm and sunny finally, so it is a good week for my car!
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Something else I noticed. on the back of the S8 standard is a split Y USB extension cable. They're labeled, but I can't remember what they say right now. But I have the one port going straight to my dash cam, and I have another USB Y splitter on the other. From that splitter I have 2 type C charging cables so that I can charge 2 cells at the same time. The charging works great, but the file explorer app does not recognize them as USB devices. When I connected mine for the first time, it asked if I wanted to connect it for dev use and I hit no. then I switch it to data transfer and an error comes up on my phone and the stereo does not recognize them as external storage.
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Not all the USBs are meant for use for external storage devices. That's one of the labels on the cords. Quick Charge is another label (except I don't know if your S8 Standard has QC 3.0), and I believe the other label is for Android Auto/Apple Car Play. I'm sure they all charge, but only the one is QC 3.0, which is the one I'll be using to charge my Samsung phone. The S8 Pro has two sets of Y-split USB cables, so four USB ports (not including the one on the front of the stereo next to the screen), and I believe two are for external storage. I only plan on having guests use them for charging, and I don't understand the point of the ugly, clunky Android Auto app, but I probably should write down which port is which (although I am losing one due to not realizing in time that I need the flush mounts for four ports instead of three).
Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly, but isn't there a separate plug-in for dash cams? Or does yours just not use that type of plug?

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