Another idea...
sorry if anyone is getting annoyed with me posting ideas all the time, and nothing else.
maybe there is already an app like this, i havent found one though...
i was taking pictures today, and couldnt help but notice, if you turn it (hd2/leo) upside down in landscape mode, the volume rocker (volume up, the top end) is in the perfect place for a hardware camera button, to actually take the photo. with the softkey camera button, its a little awkard... but the volume rocker would proved a nice feel to taking a photo, and improve things like timing, maybe.
Also, you can't listen to music while taking photos anyway, let alone make a call, so actually, in that moment in camera mode, those buttons are sitting around with nothing to do...
but, alas, i know nothing about things like this... mapping hardware buttons and such.
i should learn, but right now time is just something i dont have too much of.
let me know what you think, and if there is an app like this already, please, link it!
personally i think the "pick up" key would make a nice "shutter" using the volume rocker as zoom in and out. This topic has come up several times about mapping the shutter to a button.
optiknerv said:
personally i think the "pick up" key would make a nice "shutter" using the volume rocker as zoom in and out.
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Shutter!!!! thats the word i was looking for..
I think it would be great if these functions could be configured by the user.
i think for me, the pick up key and other buttons would make a better zoom.. but i think the volume rocker has potential as a zoom function given that it is in fact, a rocker.
but the zoom on the hd2 isnt very substantial, that could nee improvement too.. if at all possible.
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found this:
http://www.scilor.com/leocameraanykey.html
try it
on the pro2 with the KB config app i used to always remap the vol up key to take pictures but for some reason when i remap the key the same way i have for a long time, it just wont work any more!!! its to bad because i used to love having this as a option!!!
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Hi all,
Is there a tweak or something that allows for other ways to wake the phone from standby?
At the moment i have found that removing the stylus or opening the keyboard is the only way to wake the phone, to me this is kind of a odd behavior.
What if i want to make a one handed phone call, the above methods for bringing the device back to life is uncomfortable at best.
The mode i describe as standby is keys locked and screen powered down, in a perfect world i would like to press home and have the screen power up "dimmed" so that i can see where the unlock buttons are and go from there.
Is there a solution to this?
Im new to phones of this sort so if there is a generic solution i am not aware of it
Since nothing of relevance came up during my search im guessing that i am the only one who sees this as a problem?
Press the power button
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Thank you
that was really funny but it's okay..
I press my bluetooth hands-free button for that.
OK with bluetooth hands-free button but starts voice dialer too.
freco said:
OK with bluetooth hands-free button but starts voice dialer too.
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Unless you have a cooked ROM with Cyberon removed!
Mr.Sir said:
Press the power button
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nice simple answer. lol
Dropping the phone sometimes works too
TheBundo said:
Dropping the phone sometimes works too
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Could you please be more specific for the newbies here; i.e. from what height should you drop it, what surface is more effective (concrete, damp grass, wood chips?), should you let it just drop from your hand or actually throw it, etc
Thanks.
to be certain of dropping it properly you should do it from at least a 5th floor window, tho 8th is reccomended.
i believe the best place to try to wake the phone from standby would be the empire state building. always works like a charm when i throw my phones, laptops and tv`s to wake up (others)
I dropped my phone from the 8th floor, but now it "crashed"
Interesting to see that you found a thread that has been dead for 6 weeks just to make fun of the issue i had.
My bet is that you searched yourself to this thread since you had the same "problem" as i did
all joking aside he actually had a good question. we all know the power button wakes up the phone, however i would like to know if there is a way to have the center d-pad button wake the phone up instead of or in addition to the power button.
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all joking aside he actually had a good question. we all know the power button wakes up the phone, however i would like to know if there is a way to have the center d-pad button wake the phone up instead of or in addition to the power button.
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I would like this or just a simple tap on the screen should wake it. I think there should also be a "screen lock" when it sleeps like the Iphone
i found then when your on a call and the screen turns off, you can wake it back up by press down on the scroll wheel.
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all joking aside he actually had a good question. we all know the power button wakes up the phone, however i would like to know if there is a way to have the center d-pad button wake the phone up instead of or in addition to the power button.
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I was thinking of mapping it to PTT, but center d-pad button would be even better and intuitive. Is there a way to do this mapping?
not sure, im sure anything is possible here at XDA. if it is possible im sure someone here can figure out how to do it.
Mapping PTT to "wake up" Fuze
Does any one know whether it is possible to map PTT (short press) to wake up fuze from standby. It's not all that convenient to reach the power button with one-hand operation.
What if holding down the vol + button zoomed in. And holding - zoomed out. That way we would never have to worry about missing the soft key or messin up gestures. The way I hold my fone, the vol keys are super accessible too.
Just a thought.
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What if holding down the vol + button zoomed in. And holding - zoomed out. That way we would never have to worry about missing the soft key or messin up gestures. The way I hold my fone, the vol keys are super accessible too.
Just a thought.
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i like this idea .. another thing i would love is to actually be able to disengage the volume buttons altogether .. annoying to be in the middle of something and bump them accidently .. i'd rather take the long way thru the menu to change my volume .. perfect spot for a zoom tho
Yeah that would be cool.
I mean who really uses the volume rocker in the browser anyway?
I don't remember the last time I did.
The next JF should include all these different options for zooming in the settings.
Also an option to get rid of the soft zoom keys could be nice since sometimes they get in the way when multitouch zooming.
I'm agree, i pretty much never want to adjust my ringer volume, in fact, it annoys me that I'm always accidentally doing it and missing calls. would be nice to have the rocker be zoom in maps and browser, and only in call volume and media player volume when you are in those apps.
Yeah, the volume control app is great and because of it I never use the rocker.
So lets make happen! (directed towards JF)
really love the volume control over the browser. even my wife likes the idea
I am a Touch Pro which does not have a PTT button.
Any suggestions on how to reach the camera quickly? What is your quickest way to get to the camera?
remap the center button on your phone to start up camera
mobileSCR Gscroll, map the capacitive area of the screen(where the buttons are), really useful(can choose any sequence of taps to do anything, open application)
or AEButton... what' the use of a volume rocker? just use one button to get to the volume page and use the touch screen to change the setting...(one problem would be changing vol on the fly like during a phone call... that case, change the setting, one-button press = default volume behavior, two-button press = whanever you want, three -button, long press, whatever you want
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remap the center button on your phone to start up camera
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Thanks! I will try to do this but I cannot find the built in remap ap on NRGs rom, still looking for it :-D
@paperWastage: Thanks for the tip! If I cannot find the built in software I will install AE buttons.
you cant remap the center button. i think he was being pedantic. maybe you can set a button to be voice command and say "start camera".
I just have the camera in the programs... Slide over to programs and press camera...
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you cant remap the center button. i think he was being pedantic. maybe you can set a button to be voice command and say "start camera".
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actually... i was serious. There is a fuze keyboard config software floating somewhere in the raphael forums. It might be able to let you remap the centerbutton.
but why would you want to remap your center button.
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but why would you want to remap your center button.
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I have to agree as this is a very important function.
Mayne a Long press center button maybe more appropriate.
I cant seem to find any remap built in software on the NRG rom. My Touch dual had one which allowed me to remap some basic buttons like volume button.
Looks like AEbuttons is the answer for me. Will try to test it first and update you guys.
If you go to Setting and on the Personal Tab there is a Buttons setting and you can change the receive call button (press and hold of course) to whatever you want, including the camera.
Also a good idea to go over to the Systems tab and change the Long Press End Key Setting to Lock Device or something else than Turn Airplane mode on/off, god that sound is annoying when Airplane mode is turned on
it depends on the rom or software if you have the unlocked all buttons. honestly theres no faster way to get there than start > camera or photos tab > camera. if you dont have an american phone with a ppt button, there wont really be a faster way.
i actually did not mean to map the single click. I thought it was obvious i meant the long press.
using softkey manager you can replace one of the softkeys on the homescreen, as ur using an NRG rom im guessing your two softkeys on the home tab are "action" and "contacts"? ive got rid of the contacts, because a. i could jus use the people tab, or b. jus press the call button to bring up the dialer... and have replaced it with camera
the softkey manager should be under utililites/tweaks... it is on mine and im using an NRG rom
hope this helps.
Basically, I read some user feedback from Knyghtryda's Camera Mod and came up with this very simple solution. I converted the Power Button to be the camera shutter, which also works for recording and 2.3.4 GB, and does not require a modified camera.apk. The Search Button was converted to function as power on/off. I made these changes by modifying the system/usr/keylayout files.
Honestly, I find this configuration awkward unless I am taking pictures. The search button is my least favorite button and normally only hit it by accident. If this is not an ideal configuration or you can't live without a search function, just give me suggestions.
I'm not a developer or anything, I just like to experiment with my android. If anyone, dev or not, has any suggestions or improvements feel free to comment.
v1.0
Power Button=Camera Shutter, Search Button=Power on/off, No Search Button Function
Issues 8/5/2011
I haven't confirmed this with Gingerbread, only with Froyo: If you remap power button to any other button, it will function as power button but if the screen is asleep and not plugged in for a period of more than about 10 seconds, you have to press original power button followed by the new power button to wake the screen.
I have also tested a few button remapping apps made for other devices, but do not seem to be compatible with Froyo. I will be testing Gingerbread next.
Added Key Configurations
Search Button=Camera Shutter, Power=Default
Credits:
Knyghtryda- idea for the shutter and scripts
Jack$on- idea to relocate power to search button
Installation Instructions
To Change Button Configuration
Run key_remapper.zip or key_remapper_GB.zip for respective firmware version in CWM.
To Return to Default Key Configuration
Run keymap_reset.zip or keymap_reset_GB.zip for respective firmware version in CWM.
DO NOT RUN WRONG VERSION: The files look very similar but I have ran Froyo zip on GB on two occasions and all of the bottom row buttons stop working.
I think making the Search button the default camera button would work better in the long run. Don't like the camera.apk hack.. i end up with a power menu a lot popping up.
Also the power button is just too close to the lens for me.. annoys me.
Is this a configurable mapper?
Just opened the zip.
I see what you did there. I never have gotten around to doing any mods myself yet, cool, can be configured however by changing the lists.
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Just opened the zip.
I see what you did there. I never have gotten around to doing any mods myself yet, cool, can be configured however by changing the lists.
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Very simple like I said, some people would be clueless though. Also your idea would work better for me as well.
This is very nice. I hate the power button being on the side of my phone. I feel like I can't use my phone one-handed or have to shift the way I'm holding the phone just to be able to turn the screen on/off.
One quick note... In CWM after installation it says that the power button = search button which is incorrect.
Big thanks! I've been waiting for someone to come up with this!
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I think making the Search button the default camera button would work better in the long run. Don't like the camera.apk hack.. i end up with a power menu a lot popping up.
Also the power button is just too close to the lens for me.. annoys me.
Is this a configurable mapper?
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ya I agree. if u just made the search button a camera shortcut key and a camera shutter key im sure alot of people would use it for sure.
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This is very nice. I hate the power button being on the side of my phone. I feel like I can't use my phone one-handed or have to shift the way I'm holding the phone just to be able to turn the screen on/off.
One quick note... In CWM after installation it says that the power button = search button which is incorrect.
Big thanks! I've been waiting for someone to come up with this!
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Thanks, I see my mistake on the script.
dlang123 said:
I think making the Search button the default camera button would work better in the long run. Don't like the camera.apk hack.. i end up with a power menu a lot popping up.
Also the power button is just too close to the lens for me.. annoys me.
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Made the Search Button the camera button just for you. I have not tested this on the Froyo build but I do enjoy this configuration better than the other. I have also tested the camera button on the up volume button, but couldn't find a suitable volume up alternative.
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Made the Search Button the camera button just for you. I have not tested this on the Froyo build but I do enjoy this configuration better than the other. I have also tested the camera button on the up volume button, but couldn't find a suitable volume up alternative.
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which zip do I download to get the search as camera key?
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Can the search key act as a search key normally, except when in camera mode?
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Can the search key act as a search key normally, except when in camera mode?
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I can experiment with it, but not sure.
EDIT: I am not having any luck; I am not saying it is impossible, but it looks like you will have to wait for Knyghtryda to release a modified camera app with with the search button shutter, with the system keymap still set as Search. That may solve your problem! I wish I knew how to make longpress of search do camera and shortpress do search, if it is even possible. I will still look into it, I have just given up for the night.
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which zip do I download to get the search as camera key?
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The search_shutter.zip or search_shutter_GB.zip depending what version you are running.
The key mapper seemed to be working at first but I noticed that if my phone sat idle for awhile the search button (now the power button) wouldn't start the phone back up. I would have to use the power button (modded to be the new shutter button) and THEN press the search button to get the screen to come back on.
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The key mapper seemed to be working at first but I noticed that if my phone sat idle for awhile the search button (now the power button) wouldn't start the phone back up. I would have to use the power button (modded to be the new shutter button) and THEN press the search button to get the screen to come back on.
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Which build are you on? It may have left out the WAKE flag or something. Thanks for letting me know.
Mapping the volume up/down buttons to reflect 'next track' and 'previous track' while the screen is off would be my biggest request.
Can the home button mapped to wake up the phone instead of power? this is my top of the wish list, pretty plzzz
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Can the home button mapped to wake up the phone instead of power? this is my top of the wish list, pretty plzzz
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That shouldn't be a problem, but I think that I forgot to edit an extra file that effects the bottom row buttons and it seems to be on Froyo builds. I am updating this file to test reliability right now.
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Which build are you on? It may have left out the WAKE flag or something. Thanks for letting me know.
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I am on froyo
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Please
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That shouldn't be a problem, but I think that I forgot to edit an extra file that effects the bottom row buttons and it seems to be on Froyo builds. I am updating this file to test reliability right now.
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I'll be your quality test as guinnea pig if you need one. I know I can use other widget to accomplish this but prefer to avoid 3rd party lock widget because sometime I have to unlock twice. You will be my "God" if you can get it working, Thx.
So I started looking at modding the Camera.apk.. decompiled into byte code.. doesn't look that bad, if I get some time I'll run some diffs on it and the original get what he changed.. and then I'll try to modify it for using the search button. That way search only does Camera if your in Camera.
Back button on the far left? Second from the right?
Power button on the top? On the side?
Softkeys or real buttons? On-screen (a la Honeycomb) or off-screen?
Do we need a search button at all?
A lot of sweat, blood, and saliva has been spilled over it. [citation needed]
Now it's *your* turn to join the fray!
If you were to design *the* perfect Android phone, what buttons would you give it? And where? And what would it be like?
Or maybe you don't even care about how the buttons are placed, as long as the manufacturers could just agree and they all make devices with similarly-placed buttons?
Me? I'd personally place the buttons sorted by their frequency of use, starting from the leftmost to the rightmost (from the most natural to the most awkward for my thumb to press). Back button - Home - Menu - Search, from left to right.
But I see how this would be an issue to left-handed people, so I'd settle for Back and Home button in the center, and Menu and Search flanking them. That's fair enough I think.
I would love to experiment with placing the back button on the top of the left side of the phone (indexable for right-handed people, and thumbable for left-handed), but I can see how this is not for everyone I'm not even sure I'd like it.
However, if manufacturers could just agree on the placement of the buttons, that would be good enough for me.
Whether it's hardware buttons or touchscreen buttons ain't an issue to me.
I'd place the power button top center (index-fingerable).
I find volume buttons useful only during calls, so I'd like to have them function as volume buttons only during calls. During idle/homescreen/any other scenario, they would become two (customizable!) shortcut buttons (a la Blackberry). <-- if only one thing from my dream phone is manifested, I hope it's this one. Two wasted (and often pressed by accident) buttons, turned into something more useful.
If I wanna be detailed about it, I guess the volume buttons should be on the center of the right side of the phone, so one of them can be customized as shutter/camera button (although I wont use it as such, preferring to tap the screen instead).
How's yours?
I think power button on top right side, lock button under, or like you mentioned having them function as volume buttons during call. Do completely away with search button, add in maybe a camera button where my search is, but make it where you have to hold it for a second so you do not enable it accidently. Have a designated capture button for the camera, that also functions as a silent/vibrate setting out of the camera.
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Different people, different preference. Perhaps a default Home key, + 2 customizable keys where the user can choose their preferred key to be assigned.
I'd have the Search Key and Back Key always on the screen.
Menu key shouldn't even be on the phone. That should force app developer to design and create user interface with menu function incorporated in their app for consistency purpose.
I would love to have buttons on the back of the device
Now that I'm getting used to honeycomb (and apps developed for it), i can assure you that the search and menu buttons are not really necessary. i'd want a device with a back button on the left, the home button in the middle and a end call / power button on the right. that's it. oh i actually forgot a volume rocker at the usual spot at the side of the device.
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I think power button on top right side, lock button under, or like you mentioned having them function as volume buttons during call. Do completely away with search button, add in maybe a camera button where my search is, but make it where you have to hold it for a second so you do not enable it accidently. Have a designated capture button for the camera, that also functions as a silent/vibrate setting out of the camera.
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Hmm.. No search button.. Interesting.
I find it useful to search things from the homescreen without having to open a particular app first (be it Market, Springpad, Contacts, Evernote, etc.), but I can surely live without it
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Different people, different preference. Perhaps a default Home key, + 2 customizable keys where the user can choose their preferred key to be assigned.
I'd have the Search Key and Back Key always on the screen.
Menu key shouldn't even be on the phone. That should force app developer to design and create user interface with menu function incorporated in their app for consistency purpose.
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Customizable keys FTW!!
JuanDeaux said:
I would love to have buttons on the back of the device
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Wouldn't that be awkward, Mr. Doe?
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Now that I'm getting used to honeycomb (and apps developed for it), i can assure you that the search and menu buttons are not really necessary. i'd want a device with a back button on the left, the home button in the middle and a end call / power button on the right. that's it. oh i actually forgot a volume rocker at the usual spot at the side of the device.
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Oh, you even made the pic!
Your opinion is interesting. I can easily see why the search button isn't really necessary, but the menu button? Substituted by long-press, I presume? (I never tried Honeycomb for any longer than 2 minutes )
I'm beginning to get glimpses of what ICS is gonna be like Keep it coming, guys! Let's crowdsource this!
Thanks to the moderator who moved my thread. I was hesitant on where to put my thread, but finally decided on the "General" forum, even though my OP contains questions, because I thought it was more of a "discussion" thread instead of a particular question trying to uncover a particular answer (which is what Q&A usually is)