Android on Polaris - some explains - Touch Cruise Android Development

Hi all,
I'm testing android on my polaris (sys and data on NAND) since few days and it works pretty well! (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980)
Question: Does only vogue/kaiser development roms are compatible with polaris?
thanx

Why you need to create a specific thread jsut for your question and why don't you use already Q&A thread about android on polaris ?!
Use search button before creating new thread next time. thanks.

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lucsar said:
Hi all,
I'm testing android on my polaris (sys and data on NAND) since few days and it works pretty well!
Question: Does only vogue/kaiser development roms are compatible with polaris?
thanx
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I'd say that vogue/kaiser roms are the most likely roms to run on Polaris because
the hardware is similar in terms of cpu type, ram/rom size, display type and
display type.

st_voss said:
I'd say that vogue/kaiser roms are the most likely roms to run on Polaris because
the hardware is similar in terms of cpu type, ram/rom size, display type and
display type.
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right! thanx

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simple questions, just two

hey all two simple ones, kind of.
1) I know a little research could be done, but, does wm6 roms support usb storage devices?
2)What is a good touch rom, if there is one, thats just a decent clean build thats stable enough? (g3 mda)
Thanks for the help, still new here this might be in a wrong spot so just let me know if it is, thanks in advance!
edit: what is the best internet browser too? thanks.
Inline....
nixxo987 said:
hey all two simple ones, kind of.
1) I know a little research could be done, but, does wm6 roms support usb storage devices?
no idea, never tried
2)What is a good touch rom, if there is one, thats just a decent clean build thats stable enough? (g3 mda)
Check out NBD 7.4. It's the only one released with on-going revision support. There's a couple others, but limited support.
Thanks for the help, still new here this might be in a wrong spot so just let me know if it is, thanks in advance!
edit: what is the best internet browser too? thanks.
Some say Opera, no real preference personally, since IE is already installed.
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nixxo987 said:
1) I know a little research could be done, but, does wm6 roms support usb storage devices?
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If you meant to connect a flash drive or external hard disk to the mini USB and access files in it through wizard then it can't be done. It needs USB Host chip which is not included in wizard. Only PPC I have heard of having this chip is O2 XDA Flame.
awesome thanks guys.

Guide to WM6 Roms

As far as I can tell there are 5 WM6 roms, making it pretty hard to decide which one to use.
Theres Phils alpha and beta versions which both appear to be cooked versions of the Vox rom? And both have a high CPU bug resulting in bad battery life.
THeres the perfect english version, don't know where that came from.
And the sticky post with a HTC beta rom, sticky because...?
And also the official dopod rom, which some people say is the best choice.
So I guess I'm not the only one confused about which one to use. Guess the dopod one is the best bet at the moment.
None of the actual ROMS are based on HTC VOX. NONE.
All are based on an INTERNAL UNIT BUILD...
I've tested them, and the best is " Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition" by andot. It has some bugfixes (eg: WMP, MMS..) and other TWEAKS, that you will NOT FIND in other ROMS (eg: Automatic Time, Unlock Clock, etc etc). So, right now, it's the best build.
No CPU overload problem, it was fixed. (and btw, it can be fixed manually by removing a key from registry, a2dpfix related key)
indiekiduk said:
And also the official dopod rom, which some people say is the best choice.
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There is no official DOPOD ROM. That name is misleading. I am guessing the cooker meant that his ROM is for the DOPOD variant of HTC Tornado.
I'm agree with DSF " Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition" 20070807 is for the moment ( 07/08/2007 23h31) the best ROM for WM6 on Tornado.
Not being self-whoring or anything here, but pretty much ALL of the major issues in my ROM have been sorted in a test build I build today, expect a release sometime next week.
AFAIK, all the WM6 builds are based on my ALPHA build, however I will be porting a HTC S710 XIP and IMGFS when time and resources permit, so we'll have something like an WM6 RTM build for our tornado's...
Phil
Yes, without Phil's alpha build, we have nothing about the WM6 for Tornado, Phil did a great work!
Thanks andot, also thanks for some of your great work I've included in my test BETA2 ROM
Phil
its nice to see two brilliant cookers helping together! nyahahaha!
brilliant + brilliant = awesome rom!!!!! am i right?
If we help each other, the world has got to be a better place by the end of it Maybe not create a ROM together, but definitely share what we have and know
Phil
jm012a9749 said:
If we help each other, the world has got to be a better place by the end of it Maybe not create a ROM together, but definitely share what we have and know
Phil
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that is the whole idea between open source software as well, such as linux. it doesn't mean that you must create a single rom but you must use each other's wisdom to perfect your own work.
imfloflo said:
I'm agree with DSF " Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition" 20070807 is for the moment ( 07/08/2007 23h31) the best ROM for WM6 on Tornado.
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You are right, Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition 20070807 is the best at the moment. I have tried all these ROMs on my Dopod and now decided to stay with this ROM. Thank you all for your hard works and effots.
Just one small question. Anybody try the WWE version released right before Tornado Perfect English Edition ? My Dopod seems to have better batery life on WWE Rom than Perfect English Edition ROM. I have done a comparation test in the same amount of time (8 hours). In WWE ROM, my phone losts just less than 10% of battery but on Perfect English Edition ROM (v20070807), my phone losts up to 20% (even I used Automatic CPU speeds Mode in Tornado Power Control, saw the CPU speed is lower to 132MHz, closed phone and didn't use phone within these 8 hours).
Can anyboday help to explain to me why and how to solve this matter ?
same here. but without power control. in about 12 hours i have lost about 30%
Phil, what font size are you usign for SMS? I hope it is the same as your Beta build because the 'Perfect Tornado ROM' uses a very small SMS font
I flashed back to the WWE version this afternoon. It's more stable and somehow has less power consumption (I can't put my fingers on the exact reason for this.)
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Phil, what font size are you usign for SMS? I hope it is the same as your Beta build because the 'Perfect Tornado ROM' uses a very small SMS font
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I will correct this issue in the V4
bogdi1988 said:
same here. but without power control. in about 12 hours i have lost about 30%
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Do you know which application cause that?
With the V3 i lost 8% between 00:00 and 09:14 it's very good (ps: I don't use tornado power control, just automitkeylock, xbar are running)
andot said:
Do you know which application cause that?
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I have no idea about what application causes this matter, just use what it has in your Perfect ROM. Can Automatic CPU speed mode in Tornando Power Control application cause this matter ?
Perhaps the automatic CPU power reduced the clock speed when not in use, hence giving you more power, that should be what happened
Using the WWE build my current power draw is 48 mAmp. (SDA) What do you guys get using other builds? (use celeTask to check)

The Same Question-which Is The Best Wm6 Rom

Dear All,
I am again asking the same unanswered question. Which is the best ROM. When we say best we do not mean a ROM overflowing with so many additional software. We mean the one which is the factory one or like it and the one from which all the bugs are removed. No additional softwares needed as they can always be installed.
Can someone also tell me what were the bugs in the Ingenetics or the base ROM that everyone say he cooked and removed them. Can we have a list. Please.
Regards,
Alber
The Best 2 WM6 roms for me
1:XDA Mobile 6 Release 3 (Full and Lite Versions) - BT DUN is back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
2: TNT 5.0 Series .:Official/Professional/TouchFLO)1620 Base
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328917
the 2 of them is the most stable and powerful ROMs you can depend on
Thanks a 10000000000
For mfrazzz and its right for your great work
You can as well ask which religion is the best...
Useless question.
Mirek
ebnez said:
1:XDA Mobile 6 Release 3 (Full and Lite Versions) - BT DUN is back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
2: TNT 5.0 Series .:Official/Professional/TouchFLO)1620 Base
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328917
the 2 of them is the most stable and powerful ROMs you can depend on
Thanks a 10000000000
For mfrazzz and its right for your great work
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Thanks a lot!, what is BT-DUN??
mirekluza said:
You can as well ask which religion is the best...
Useless question.
Mirek
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well even that can be answered. But dear I just wanted to know out of all the available ones which one is 'comparatively better' now you can say based on what? so if you could have read my question it said it would a clean and fast one with no overloads and not to mention nobody would like the crashes. So like you knew that you cry when sad and smile when happy, the same way the good is the one which is fast and doesn't have bugs, was it that useless a question.
Anyways I am sorry if you got irritated at that. My intention is to learn and share from this forum
Thanks
alber786 said:
Anyways I am sorry if you got irritated at that. My intention is to learn and share from this forum
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I am no irritated I just tell you that you will not get any precise answer. Everybody will praise what he knows and uses. Also people have different priorities.
It always occures here that people come and ask what is best... There is no answer. Different people have different favourites (TNT, XDA Mobile, WRCX, NBD etc.). There are also people who says that WM5 is better than WM6.
Just read and choose and if you do not like reflash.
You will not get any final answer. The world is not so simple.
Mirek
1:XDA Mobile 6 Release 3 (Full and Lite Versions) - BT DUN is back ( Mfrazzz )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
No two ways about it, it is by far the best rom availible. i have tried them all, this one is the least bugged with just the right combination of added goods that most people would use.
Some of the other roms are faster, but then again they are missing some vital modules that the Mfrazzz rom has.
try all or most of them and see which one meets your needs, they come in different sizes and flavors, so enjoy
yes you should try all of them by ur self , and test them by your self , some of them may satisfy you at last
Me personally tried NBD (bluetooth handset is not working, problem with hang phone), tried TNT (missed calls, no voice dialer) and now on XDA Mobile 3 and so far missing voice dialer as well.
I tried Nottoosmart.
its simple but then i saw that after I run it for some time it takes up all the program memory and freezes
the mfrazz's rom xm6r3 is good but then it hangs sometimes at the boot and the times goes back to 2006 after every reboot
for me tnt is the way to go no question about it. i use this for voice dialing
neva dinova said:
for me tnt is the way to go no question about it. i use this for voice dialing
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Thanks...i was looking for that!
It was the only thing missing in all wm6 roms.
i loved the Black diamond 2 and TNT version 5 is the best
I have tried alot of roms
I like the Touch No Evil Rom. It never crashes and is super fast. It has everything I need and use. I have not found any thing wrong so far. The only thing is it does not have the Cube but I dont use that anyway.

Diamond video drivers : what's the result ?

Hello all, I read many many many threads about the current cooked ROMs for the Kaiser, but I can't find the answer to my question :
are the Diamond video/3D drivers working with good results on the Kaiser ?
Is the difference very important compared to the 6.1 official HTC ROM ?
Is the video reading really improved with the Diamond drivers ?
According to what I read, everyone says the last Dutty ROM is very fast, but nobody talks about video reading : is it still lagging ?
Same about the other ROMS (HyperDragons and others), they say the diamond drivers are included but "untested"...
Thanks guys !
Short answer (cos I'm bored of typing today ). No, no-one has got the Diamond video drivers working. I'm pretty sure the Diamond has a different chipset to the MSM7200/7201 that the Kaiser uses.
EDIT:
Oh yeah, and it's also a VGA device.
Also, this would probably be better in the General Forum.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Short answer (cos I'm bored of typing today ). No, no-one has got the Diamond video drivers working. I'm pretty sure the Diamond has a different chipset to the MSM7200/7201 that the Kaiser uses.
EDIT:
Oh yeah, and it's also a VGA device.
Also, this would probably be better in the General Forum.
Ta
Dave
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My question is asked to know what cooked ROM I may use ... That's why it's in the ROM forum ...
So if I understand well, that means that some ROMS (HyperDragon for exemple) do include the diamond drivers, but they are useless ?
dizzy33 said:
My question is asked to know what cooked ROM I may use ... That's why it's in the ROM forum ...
So if I understand well, that means that some ROMS (HyperDragon for exemple) do include the diamond drivers, but they are useless ?
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It will have some Diamond Drivers in the ROM, not sure if the graphics ones will be there or not. Have to get a chef to help you with that one.
Dave
read this for more info:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1
pfcsabre said:
read this for more info:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1
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There's no answer to my main question at this web link :
Do the Diamond video drivers included in some cooked ROMS (like the HyperDragon ROM) increase the video performances of the Kaiser ?
Theres a simple answer to this thread...
NO!
If the diamond drivers worked, then our mission in search of the perfect cooked rom would be complete (as it stands, we are still mere padowans being loured to the dark side of the force)
dizzy33 said:
There's no answer to my main question at this web link :
Do the Diamond video drivers included in some cooked ROMS (like the HyperDragon ROM) increase the video performances of the Kaiser ?
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if you've read it carefully, the answer is NO-- but the graphics performance increased on the new cooked ROMs are mainly because of some new drivers that improved drawing operations. You can see improvements if you would compare Dutty's April 29 to June 7 benchmarks. To quote:
The NLD ROM has an impressive graphics speed improvement on paper, which seems to be mainly due to improved BitBlt performance (BitBlt is used for copying graphics data between places in memory, very important for drawing operations - but many other processing intensive calls are used as well)
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Thanks Dizzy for asking this question. I have been looking throught the forums looking for the same answer. (beats working)!!!
I thought that there hadnt been the true break through we have all been hoping for, but little rays of light instead.
My question is: if we havnt 'imported' the new drivers from dimond or elsewhere, how far are we away, if ever from doing so?
I say 'we' in the royal sence, seeing as i know nothing about cooking, just using.
For all those people that know the answer to this and might see it below themselves to answer a noob, just remember you once knew nothing about this as well.
cheers all
I dont't know whether it is real or just a joke, but NoThrills (rom cooker) said at the NoThrills V4 Beta Thread, that he has the driver - but it is not stable yet.
...so we will see.
I'm very pesimistic, but here are a lot of guys who are great (e.g. Niki Project Team who enabled Wifi etc)
There is definitly an improvement, i used different Laurentius Roms and i noticed that the playlist in pocket player for example loads and moves mouch smoother than in other roms. I don't think we will ever get working 3d drivers but it seems to me that the diamond drivers will increase the performance of the daily working, like menus.
Thanks a lot to all of you for your answers !
My main problem with all the last cooked ROM is that I can't find them in the french language and keyboard, otherwise I guess I would install one of them for sure.
I did a SPB benchmark of my device running the official HTC 6.1 ROM (but I didn't do a hard reset for that).
My graphic score is 3850, where all the cooked ROM are around 4250 ... The last Dutty is around 4900 !!!
So I guess my device would be a little faster from a "graphic" point of view.
Melkor said:
I dont't know whether it is real or just a joke, but NoThrills (rom cooker) said at the NoThrills V4 Beta Thread, that he has the driver - but it is not stable yet.
...so we will see.
I'm very pesimistic, but here are a lot of guys who are great (e.g. Niki Project Team who enabled Wifi etc)
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Yes, let's cross our fingers !

Help me with choosing good ROM

Hi there,
Simply, I need help and advice regarding Polaris ROM's
I was looking for answer in ROM Development section many times(FAQ too), but all topics are so confusing(disorganised, confusing and uninformative) that I'm losing my sanity.
I was trying few roms(like panosha think), but unfortunately dissapointed me(bugs, unresolved issues etc.)
So what i need is quite simple in fact:
-fast, stable 6.1 or 6.5 version
-bug free or at least little bugs
-fully working radio(bluetooth, wifi, 3G and GPS)
-need default microsoft keyboard
Don't need gizmos, although nice GUI is a good point to go.
Thank you in advance.
tl;dr
Help me finding best ROM
go to htc support page scroll down to the bottom of the page, enter your phone's serial number and you will download the newest official ROM, with update utility included.
a good rom for polaris..
It's been more than 1 year that I use the rom called 3LIT3 (FULL VERSION) on both my 2 polaris... they work very well, 3LIT3 is really a fantastic / fast/ bug-free rom. I have the "3LIT3 V FULL WWE" VERSION.. and I can guarantee for this one only. I know there are the VI, the VII and the VIII versions of the same rom, but for sure number V is absolutely perfect. Everything including bluetooth, gps, external speaker, battery, wi-fi ecc ecc is working very well, without bugs...and including footprints!!
AH I FORGOT this rom is based on WM6.1 plus manila2d of course...
You got just to update the google maps cab..and your poleris will FLY!!!.
@faredino
thx for the tip this rom ist the best rom i´ve tested
i had m-amines, which is also nice but not as fast as lit3
i had pcars 6.5 rom, which is good but very slow (i think 6.5 is´nt the right thing for polaris)
and since a few days the lite3 VIII, which blew my mind...very very good work a pitty that he stopped working on it
so if you need a good stable rom take lit3 !
How about 6.5 recommendations?
So what's a good bet for WM6.5?
Was using pcarvalho's latest (24DEC09) but it has been freezing up & generally running very laggy. My Orbit 2 is going to my wife so I need something friendly as it gets whilst also reliable & quick. WM6.1 comes over too strong on the 3LIT3 ROMs...
i just tested pcars and kostas, but haven´t found a better rom then lit3, it got not the nice appearance of wm6.5, but i prefer speed and smoothnes
faredino said:
It's been more than 1 year that I use the rom called 3LIT3 (FULL VERSION) on both my 2 polaris... they work very well
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Tried, tested and i can confirm that.
Stable, bug free with nice gui.
Thank you.
3lit mmm, too slow for me.. too much stuff, probably many of them will never be used.
obviously you pay your many stuff with -speed!
a 400mhz processor can perform more than that, it have to, with 3lit I felt like going back to omap 201mhz ppc generation...
I have two Polaris and on both I have returned after many tries to an official 6.1 ROM, with radio updated, and tomtom7.
I think it's all what you need, a fast and crashless rom,
for me it's just all I need
Recently I have upgraded to 3LIT3 VIII FULL ITA....
...definitely my fav's ROM!!!!!!!!!
Will thank chavonbravo for the rest of... the days of my both polaris!!
If you're also using that rom, please consider a donation to the great mind of chavonbravo!
Also..anyone has changed the rom's keyboard? i think that is the only "not really perfect" issue of 3LIT3_VIII.. but it is overall GOOD anyway
Bye everybody,
alexandertheat said:
go to htc support page scroll down to the bottom of the page, enter your phone's serial number and you will download the newest official ROM, with update utility included.
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Hello,
I am looking for this option to download a new rom but i can not find.
Can I help me with a link, please.
Thank you very mutch
I am afraid downloads on HTC home page are no longer available. License for WM has expired some time ago.
Search on Touch Cruise ROM development page though.

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